Guild Wars 2

Arcade.8901:

Ou, la trulala, do you really think those 30 gold farmed from those suicide, desperate, attempts to res the lord by cool down, was terrible ? It’s hilarious how you getting farmed for 4 hours straight and trying to sound pro. Keep it up lootbag.

Where do you get that assumption? unless your running around with over 50% magic find not to mention the value of downed players is based off their survivability if they where indeed throwing themselves at you for 4hrs straight you would find after each wipe the individual value of each player would decrease to 0 rather quickly.

To [Irae] at dawns tower on Deso bl last night Hi from the Asura guardian you pulled off the AC and cheers for setting off my Supply trap i was getting worried it would despawn till you showed up

To [Irae] at dawns tower on Deso bl last night Hi from the Asura guardian scout you pulled off the AC and cheers for setting off my Supply trap i was getting worried it would despawn till you showed up

LJMaster.6214:

We’ve been rocking? Have you even been playing WvW? And I don’t mean the two hours of raiding, we all own then, we have held two keeps on whichever map we have been on during our raids. Riverside have beaten us, yes they seem to have a bit more coverage, but that’s only because we got wiped so many times in the morning and afternoon that people just log off to the cursed shore.

No need to get too worked up m8 there are lessons to learn from matchups and this is the mother of all lessons i hope we all are starting to recognise them and take them on-board.

Example your facing multiple orgainsed groups that can work together and tbh the bigger a single group get’s with only a single commander the harder it is to direct and control people effectively to contribute each other in that group.

By the way what a flippin run around river had us doing on our home map, had one 35+ group running around then another 25+ and possibly a third firstly we had only one group defending and we lost Garry AFTL joined the map and attempted to split them up bouncing them between Garry and Bay eventual one had to fall. thankfully when Garry fell back into our hands Gandara had exploited Riversides over extension into the North and had been flipping towers and camps green in the south to their rear whilst river was focused defending Garry and Bay, this gave us time to flip bay back when they where on the back foot.

Jayne.9251:

I never moan about lag in game. I will make bug reports, but I never ever complain about lag in WvW threads.

But man. That lag tonight. Horrific. 15 second delay to even go through a door.

I’m not sure what’s changed from last week to this, but even vs SFR and Viz last week it wasn’t even close to this bad.

We where getting it too at reset in the Gandara,Deso, River matchup it felt like an Anet thing as WvW did end up getting pulled down for a new build who knows.

Oh by the way nice fight last night vs the guardian commander from riverside in the ruins north of heroes lodge on Gandara bl

Two support guardians fighting is funny as hell even when you had 2 others helping i couldn’t kill you and you and your guys couldn’t kill me until another 2 joined the fight.

Love from the Asura guardian with the big horns

Bloodwort MacFangho.4638:

oblivious.8074:

Amelia Knox.9362:

GO GO GANDARA show them the small roaming so people transfer to you

A lot of Gandarans still like to roam in small groups even if we meet bigger groups

Example of small group pirate tactics fun from last night : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6kRqLZFeQE

Edit: I admit its frustrating to always be outnumbered but we keep trying.

Kudos to you, fella! I was there with the AFTL/CS group – have to LOL that you broke the wall down while we were smacking on the door .. not sure why we didn’t go straight to the cata spot (maybe not enough cata st that point – not sure).

If I remember correctly, we wiped the Riverside mob thereon. You guys should have taken the opportunity to try to break into inner and steal up from under our nose! :-)

Great to watch .. ROFL’d muchly! Your type of group really make this game the great game it is!!

Yeah originally we where going to hit the door then i heard Cata fire had a look and found you guys so we decided since you guys already setup working the wall we would leave you at peace and follow you in when you had broke the inner.

Nice training of the River blob into us i guess we deserved it for attempting to ninja your work lol

petterikr.4263:

After a good fight it really is not so hard to type /bow /salute

I do this all the time even if the player is outnumbered i give credit to those that outplay me and to those that stand and fight and don’t run away.

Jeez i even did it last night when us and FG where fighting a blob of Gandara between garrison and bay on their map and they lost.

Great night on Gandara bl Deso forces consisted of FG running an open raid, CS and AFTL joining forces to make up a 25 man group plus all the random friendlies running around helping where they can, plenty of action thanks River and Gandara

Terrorsquad.2349:

Ya, kinda lame a t1 server saying much lower tiers they blob and/or have superior numbers.. Just doesn’t make sense.. Be happy you were able to farm the AM and Gandara this week.
This is WvW after all, server vs server vs server so man up and have fun!

You do realise there is no tier 1,2,3 etc any more just ranks? we are 3rd rank because of Anets’s messed up system where you gain more rating from losing matches than you do winning.

For example we where 3rd losing against Sfr and Viz and after winning this matchup we will move down 3 ranks to 6th. and after coming 3rd in this match Gandara is predicted to actualy move up 2 ranks from 14th to 12th and Abbadon coming 2nd is staying at rank 11, the logic is baffling who is the actual winner/loser?

You have no idea how under manned Desolation is compared to even a few months back fighting Piken and Miller’s Sound, this week has not been a complete walk in the park for us, both your servers have made us aware of weakness within our community in both prime time and offpeak hours that we didn’t expect we would have i logged in Deso bl at 6:30 GMT+1 prime time and our home map was Green Garrison and all so in effect despite winning the matchup we will not be pulling out the fireworks we have still under performed and are going down till we rectify the issues or get hammered by a few servers to boost us back up lol

Abbadon i see some good numbers and coordination from you guys wither you all play on prime time and have no out of hours coverage isn’t that important you bring the fights and can exploit our weakness in late morning to afternoon coverage.

Immolator.5640:

I must say, Deso has the most zerker players of any server I have encountered in GW2 o.O

I guess it works both ways there where occasions where my guild of 10 vs similar Gandara and Abbadon groups last night players would melt against my support guardian in PTV i was rather surprised usually i have to take a non offensive approach.

Not going to judge them though im pretty sure if they got the jump on me it would be a different story, thieves on the other hand have grown very persistent in trying to down me even though it drags out so long someone else arrives and decides to put us out of our misery so thieves point to note Desolation Asura guardian with big horns as much as he would enjoy playing leap frog with you it’s a waste of both our time

Actually Gandara your not doing too bad of a tick at this time for the supposed underdog.

Tbh wasn’t too bad on desolation bl tonight mostly guild groups up until abbadon force charged Garry was a bit pump for enemy gank squads though apologies from AFTL if we ran over anyone we should really avoid stray’s but every group above 3 is a danger to random’s trying to find the way back to their groups from spawn and we simply cannot resist turning such ganking groups into road kill.

How Abbadon is not higher in the ranks is beyond me you have more people in WvW than us lol especially if the coordinated Garrison attack you pulled off was anything to go by that was one hell of a mega blob Im guessing a fair bit of border hopping took place to accomplish that? the signs where there when we all of a sudden went out manned and the call went out to brace for impact

McWolfy.5924:

Piken is the new Deso?

please no i wouldn’t wish our fate with matchups on absolutely no one lol

Have fun everyone see you VIZ and SFR soon as usual

There’s always someone worse off just look at Piken matched up with Vizunah and the new improved SFR 2.0.

Further more before losing heart give the matchup a chance desolation in no way will have you waking up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat, Miller’s Sound gave us some good fights for a low ranked server.

Reset is our strongest coverage and yet Abbadon a rank 11 vs a rank 3 has the lead so that confirms everything i have always known in that ranks do not reflect the fighting spirit of a server and it’s ability to kick a higher ranks groups in the nuts.

Hold your nerve give all that you have run from no one, as long as you have gave your best no one can hold that against you wither we prefer points or not is irrelevant we lost our recent matches but in defeat we take comfort in any whooping’s we gave our opponents on the battle field throughout the week, i recommend you do the same.

Good luck everyone and fight like possessed men

Yeah gratz to SFR the best server won even if it’s a kick in the nuts to admit it

PsYcHoSeAn.4835:

Don’t worry, we got quite a lot players for prime time. Most of the time we got a queue on 3 of the 4 maps.

Quantity isn’t Desolations problem…Quality is…

Im not sure it’s been like that for the last 2 weeks m8 EB’s been underpopulated we have had a rough average of two maps with a queue this last fortnight, Deso bl being one of em in prime time.

Magnetron take a good look at the PVE maps during the clockwork invasions and see how many guilds and players have taken to farming events for gold in fact each invasion spawns at least not 2 but often extends to 3-4 overflow servers or even more, not to mention those farming Orr and frostgorge.

There are many reasons our numbers have declined blaming a guild as the primary reason is just silly guilds don’t force players to join players have minds of their own.

In fact im guessing most of the pugs where on Deso map as that was where a good few strong SFR’s guilds where ECL, RIOT, KoA etc and we had plenty of pugs backing up smaller guilds like us.

And if i end with going back to my defense of GoD claiming they where outnumbered on the map and how it somehow got twisted around to meaning having the buff made fights harder… Well no individual fights may not be harder however being heavily out numbered in general on the map means you often become a magnet of attention. If GoD where the only group on that map vs multiple Viz and SFR groups id expect everyone to come down on them like a tonne of bricks.

I know for a fact if desolation had multiple guild groups stacked on a map harassing one of SFR’s guild groups out manned over and over they too would abandon ship and it does happen as there is only so much bouncing from pillar to post against 2 servers groups without support any guild will take before considering moving out.

My example was Desolation bl at reset despite your claim you where under strength at reset you still out numbered desolation on every map but our own. We stacked FG and EXG along with our randoms on that map as a last resort due to the turnout on the other maps, you hit us hard at reset but we harassed the life out of any groups you had and they abandoned ship they got sick of running into desolation groups at every turn no room to maneuver probably thought to themselves we will come back when the map is a bit quieter and some deso have gone to sleep.

It was not a case of the buff made fights harder for your guys but we where more numerous than you as a result.

So what have we learnt so far from Mr colesy’s posts in this thread? that we must be politically correct when mentioning the out manned buff, it’s not the buffs fault fights are harder.

Not everyone makes the connection between the buff and the fact it means you where quite out numbered.

So to that end please refer in future to the term out numbered as quite frankly id hate colesy’s interpretations result in him popping an artery over such a menial thing lol

colesy.8490:

Obviously outnumbered “buff” means that you have much less players than some other server. And to claim that the number of players has no effect on any battles, is just lying. In fact a winning server has a minor advantage via Power of the Mists:

O M G

Would you read my posts about the outmanned buff? Read every single one of them very carefully. If you’re too lazy, just read my third post on this page.

Desolation, can you drag your illiterates out of the thread? I can only handle so much dumbarsery.

Actually, I’ll quote myself for you:

The point I am making, is that being outnumbered makes fights harder. The outmanned buff does not. You can still gank people if you have the buff on.

Did you and the two other braindeads arguing with me even go to school?

Your still going on!!!?

Ok then smart kitten we know how the buff itself works no one directly stated the buff made fights harder, it’s what the buff represents that makes things harder the fact that a server is outmatched in population on a map if being outmanned wasn’t a real issue there would be no need for a buff would there?

You are assuming we live in a perfect world where every encounter is 20v20 you are trying to tell me if i had a guild group of 20 and because you have many more similar groups on the map and two roaming quite close if were spotted only one would engage and the other would move on?

Outside of GvG there are no controls to consider such things as fair fights neither side has the time nor interest in accurately counting their opponents before engaging and outside of GvG it’s not practical and further more nobody cares.

When it comes to SFR vs Desolation any discrepancy whilst out manned buff is active is actually quite large roughly 3/1 my guild has been at Gamescom during the start of this matchup so i have had many an opportunity to roam maps and see for myself.

Your fixated on educating us on the mechanics of the out manned buff when the real issue is population coverage and general population itself telling us SFR and any server groups engage only equal numbers is purely fictional.

Remember No 1 spot isn’t earned through skill and fair even fights it’s gained by stacking WvW population and coverage against all other competitors Blacktide anyone?

Actually i think your being quite harsh in your attitude in that you cannot distinguish by now the out manned buff is referred by what it symbolises and not what it does lol

colesy.8490:

Good to see you ignored my post, how about you admit you were wrong?

I could go on all day arguing your point of opinion but lets face it it’s just that a point of opinion and one coming from a guild that often takes ECL along for the trip, now you will argue it’s just a coincidence but a rather frequent one at that.

What im saying is the debate is dead in the water neither of our opinions is up for negotiation so why bother when everyone’s entitled to their own. Not worth debating better time for everyone if we where discussing something actually constructive something that’s lacking in this thread.

Wemil.7052:

sadly we are full so your not welcome xD

That’s not what everyone else is saying i heard it was open house at SFR why you think all your randoms from Gandara etc are coming? good luck with the queues in the future lol

Im quite enjoying my out manned buff iv saved quite a bit of gold in the process and less down time between fights your too bloated for my liking

Wemil.7052:

I can give you one know and the next hour.

rise guild that recently left sfr to piken square because of lack of players:)

I remember rampage one day saying something about farming desolation while having outmanned buff or something:)

oh and RESET many guilds don’t play. too much lag if for example za drot would play reset I think everything would be going +350 for sfr because GoD and deso/vizunah blob lost everything yesterday EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVERYTTHING on the borderland zd played:)

Blobs you say despite me confirming out manned in all maps sunday and on reset the only substantial manpower we had was on Deso map so im guessing you still have superior numbers play reset than you would like to admit.

colesy.8490:

Weak edit there.

The outmanned buff itself does nothing to the difficulty of fights, it just means that on the whole borderland you’re outnumbered, the buff itself is irrelevant.

So stop trying to shift the goal posts and admit you’re wrong, you already look pathetic the way it is with the posts you’ve been making in the SFR/Deso/Viz matchup threads recently.

Hold up ill happily defend GoD on this one so your saying if one opponent out numbers the other on a map in general population it doesn’t make the fights harder i totally disagree because one guild group out numbered with no support will be forced to run the gauntlet of every SFR and Viz group on the map.

That’s like saying defending home maps out numbered and double focused isn’t any harder than defending with substantial numbers. You must believe they refer to the individual fights being harder they are referring to the difficulty of hitting multiple groups.

Tell me a SFR guild running completely alone out manned in Deso map during prime time facing the Deso blobs with no support wouldn’t get frustrated, and il tell you otherwise reset for example the amount of times your server abandoned the map out numbered for greener pastures leaving us by 9pm with just Viz to contend with

iiMulch.2138:

Jue.6493:

Covis.6037:

If GoD is so good why dont u accept ANY gvg’s? And dont give me that “its not a real game mode” fudge. Atm u only seem to be too much full of yourselves and havent proved anything.

Because they would rather spend their time disrupting other guilds GvG’s instead.

No we only do it to guilds we do not respect. There a certain guilds in Deso but they know who they are.

Respect works both ways instead of coming across arrogant why don’t you help build trust between you and other guilds by being team players, everyone of your blacklisted guilds contributes allot to the team effort of desolation as a server.

You have so far excluded yourself from the community that has pulled this server together since the exodus of many a large guild from desolation, why you don’t bury the hatchet and make an effort to ease relations with these guilds i don’t know. Were all in this together and none of us can do it on our own.

Thumbs up to all the crew on Deso bl, funny watching and taking part in Hills getting golem rushed at 1:30am when Viz take their eye off the ball and it resets just short of waypoint completion lol

Oh well it was fun whilst it lasted all to be gone soon when Viz does it’s nightly run of the maps and SFR’s Russians and morning forces wake up.

Yeah def good guild always prepared to help others not to mention one of it’s co-founders came originally from our guild so i know some of the mentality of no fear no surrender will have had an influence and it’s why DVG is always close to my heart.

WOW guys don’t go de-railing the thread

colesy.8490:

What he’s saying is right though, all we need are night guilds, not more guilds clogging up the queues in prime time.

Your def right but since when did the majority of humankind begin to care about anyone but themselves?

Us Humans have a very bad habit of doing what is right for us and to kitten with others. So when your server is doing well others on not so fortunate servers will indeed jump onboard regardless if you tell them or it’s obvious it’s full. Vizunah is a good case of this im sure long ago vizunah had many guild raids that eventually got squeezed out by the bandwagon players wanting to be No 1 and french, they have given up on such a server structure they get the fact they can’t hold back the tide success brings.

You can resist as much as you want but the frustration will burn you out it can’t be done without collapsing the server again as you very well know if things reach critical mass with the queues. Good example no one want’s to come to Deso why? because we’re always outgunned up here in these matchups that we frequently get stuck in and we lose every time, but we have the coverage to beat Piken and millers and kodash and it’s then that people take interest.

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

What kitten es me off and you expecially is people transfer on a server without even cheking it status. You say we pay for game we play what we want ok cool but if you wait 1-2 hours to get on map and get only 50% of your guys what is the point? It is the same for all servers not only ours, and this is the failure of Anet.

There’s also the factor of becoming a victim of your own success happened to you once before that was def Anet’s fault opening free transfers to the no 1 server in EU at the time.

But i still stand by the fact when your pulling all the right punches everyone wants to be on your side regardless of the impact on the indigenous guilds and players on the server. Thankfully Desolation doesn’t have that problem

AFTL had some nice small scale fights around desol last night vs similar sized groups. First time we encountering elona guild [WvW] we managed an initial win the second time later on your numbers had doubled ours and we wiped lol

Blame the living story event the amount of gold you can farm from that event is crazy there is no incentive whilst this is on for our PVX reinforcements to WvW, everytime i log into Divinity Reach and that Queen’s Pavilion instance im straight into overflow.

Seriously this is the equivalent of Anet screwing up again like it did with SFR but with the opposite result in actually losing most of our players to PVE. Stronger WvW focused Servers may very well keep themselves together and fit it into off peak times but us deso are suckers for the lure of gold, id kill Queen Jenna myself if only to put an end to this event lol

HaHa was fun to solo charge into the rear flank of the Russian SFR guild ZBS or whatever their name is i survived a full 4 seconds on my asura guardian lol

Solraven.8627:

Basically, we are Deso – WE define how we play.
And if opposing servers dont like dieing to us I suggest they drop down the ranking a bit and fight somebody else.

Well said

Every single match one server criticizes another over it’s choice of playstyle dictating that everyone should play by their rules. Viz stop night capping and hiding in your keeps, Deso stop blobbing , Piken plays for the fights and not points so everything else is unacceptable and wrong. SFR wants opponents to face them in equal numbers in open field so they can GvG etc.

It’s all an ideal world for one server that won’t exist at least Piken during the old tier system kept themselves out of the top brackets so they could play the way they wanted.

To be honest despite what gets said on here by a few individuals about Vizunah the majority of us have accepted that they do what they want to do and nobody can change that in the slightest as they say “if it’s not broke and it works why fix it”?

We moan at our opponents when despite our best efforts we fail it’s a fact of life that many of us cannot express humility in failure and it is always the other party’s fault for doing something better at any one moment be it attacking or defending with more numbers or having coverage where others do not this is hardly the fault of the other party and it goes for everyone.

colesy.8490:

KingCraig.7651:

Run my pretties! make haste!!

Classic run from SFR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfBU1BWlYRM

Look at you chasing an upscale. YOU’RE SUCH A GOOD PLAYER

I told you some people only see what they want to see and i know it works both ways.

I can clearly see GOD moving to intercept and cut off a SFR group with a random then a few stragglers caught up in the middle if you can’t see that you should go to specsavers and even so if you can’t hear the TS comms you’re also deaf and dumb omg where are servers getting these players these days? lol

Come on phase two of the so called SFR trolling is a washout so far, you need to up your game or send them back to your Forum Warrior Academy for reconditioning ASAP to save any further embarrassment

You do realise theres enough tears from both sides to sink Orr again within this thread?.

So i guess for every SFR Forum Warrior victory in phase 1 your side scored a good few own goals let’s see how the second phase plays out.

BRING IT!! lol

Ridafyt Whitestrike.8397:

Have a nice matchup (and I know AFTL dont run the numbers to take on guilds on their own, you only run like 10 ppl so It’s understandable you team up for guilds 3x your size)

I wouldn’t exactly say teaming up we prefer to run our own raid than follow other tags but i guess where there’s trouble inadvertently we won’t be far from it nor afraid to wipe against 3x our number we don’t aim to beat these guilds but merely to divert attention away from other areas for our bigger forces which is exactly what happened in the Hills incident SFR were attempting to take Garry we took our raid to Hills and you sprung the trap by sending CON back to Hills giving our defenders breathing space.

I don’t wish to get in an argument either somebody thought to drag me into one they were having making reference to my guild however my rant is finished and so am i on the topic.

Random People.4629:

You should have asked some of the FG/AFTL/pug blob from Desolation Borderlands to help you out, or tell them to not do the same thing you are complaining about.

I knew this was coming il have you know desolation map had no such constant blob we had 3 individual guilds working apart unless in the instance we had to defend an objective, open field and offensive operations where purely guild runs.

Tbh that statement is “pot calling the kettle black” CON and ECL tags where joined at the hip on our bl at reset. AFTL where 10 players with a detached commander leading the pugs the guild was scouting upgrading and keeping supply lines open joining in where fights materialized within our proximity.

Home borders get hit hard at reset and im pretty sure there is no surprise if the defenders don’t want to play fair, We placed 3 guilds between bay Hills and Garry but SFR went straight for Garry with their entire map force what did you expect we leave 15-20 guys to defend and compromise the objective hell no and how many times did SFR send a bigger force to defend Hills when 10 AFTL + a few pugs assaulted it? either your guilty of the same thing or your scouts can’t count.

Let’s be frank there is no argument Defense is completely different from Assault and holds more priority.

GO!! GO!! Desolation great reset from the former underdogs. Yes it’s only reset and we have nights,day, prime time for a whole week to go yet but heck i don’t care it was a great start from past experience i wasn’t expecting this but i guess the time we have had fighting Piken,Millers,Kodash have done us good.

Desolation home map 3 guilds AFTL,FG,TLA running separately coordinating and coming together in response to pushes on objectives. Plenty of open field fights some won some lost but great fun nethertheless .

Props to SFR guilds [CON] and [ECL] pushing on garrison nonstop and SFR for throwing small distraction forces on other objectives etc i don’t think we have bounced about like ping pong balls as much as tonight lol.

Viz you’re still not there with the open field fights i encountered more 3 man sniping teams than any real open fielders, Greetings from the asura GS guardian with the dragon helm who had a few determined bash ins with sniper squads trying to regroup with my guild bouncing from objective to objective throughout the night lol.

I won’t likely be back on here before reset so id like to say a few things:

I have to admit there has been no honour gained in leading this weeks match up apparently were in completely different leagues when it comes to overall server strenght. Despite this i take my hat off to MS the small server in comparison with little coverage but with a ferocious fighting spirit i hope we never have to face you guys again any time soon this was not fun for any of us in the long run, and to Kodash who unfortunately are not as strong as they once were i hope you regain your strength and keep your chins up it feels like only yesterday we shared the same fate, most of us have felt your pain but stick with your community and rise from the ashes and become stronger from the ordeal i do hope we meet again when you’re in better shape.

So to summarise this week has been Kitten for mostly everyone but i hope people found some enjoyment in some form and i wish you all the best.

Build please

Yeah Desolation take a good look at yourselves in the mirror you’re forgetting where we have been these last 6 months at least, have some respect for others in a similar situation.

Sitting in these lower matchups playing the smug were better than you face… Yeah we won a few matchups vs inferior coveraged opponents it’s a bit early to pull out the banners for a victory parade never mind trying to rub it in. In no way do we have the skill and tactical advantage and your kidding yourself if you believe it to be so.

Take your victory with respect be fair and stop turning this server into a monolith of a QQ monster and into the very things we despised about some of our former opponents.

stiello.1875:

uSuck.5016:

I feel like I have to thank Deso & Miller for the 2 golds I earned by killing you guy in Stonemist over and over :P
Kodash had a lot of fun =P

Good for you if your server would be first it would be a nice post but this is uhm yeah….
We farmed you guys on your own borderlands like crazy…. Kodash were only running away from us.

Does it matter they are not 1st place, was it not our mentality of look at the loot bags that kept morale up when we were last place matchup after matchup?. What is important is every server in a matchup can find some enjoyment in it regardless of where they place. It’s friendly rivalry lets keep it that way.

I know MS is running the underdog in this matchup but you guys fight with great determination and what you lack in numbers and coverage you make up for in skill. We had almost our entire map except for your last bastion of defence bluevale it took us hours and was a kitten for us to throw you out of it, you push hard and our forces wiped many times lol.

Props also to the roaming MS Ranger who beat me on my necro and a friendly guardian into a pulp and respected the fight with a bow.

Valkjre.5401:

No Idea what Bubbles is blabbering about – but I have not seen a single Abaddon or Deso guild stand alone against My Guild This Is SPARTA [SPRT] – We took your t3 Hills seevral times single handedly while there was Abaddon trying to flank us at same time. I saw over 60 players from desolaton hiding on inner hills while our Omega train killed your Wall. This didnt happen once but on number of occasion. The videos are uploaded. So come back when you can really back your words. Piken has been always the EU prime time raiders. FG left Piken and bandwagoned on Deso. Did that affect piken in any way? yes, it did. No more qeue and more quality work and less Bandwagoning and free loot bags for you. So when desolation is able to produce a Guild that can face off with This Is SPARTA [SPRT] come and complain to us. If you cannot do 1 guild that can outrun us. I will allow you 2 guilds that cover whole 80 slot togethere – come and FACE US. We will tear your T3 tower along with your Guilds defending it over and over again.

Dr Doda: This IS SPARTA [SPRT]
Second in command

AFTL faced you with 10 of our players that counts despite how many of you there actually are which tbh is huge and rather than run we did what we had to stack and charge and die under your superior numerical advantage that makes us more spartans than you would it not?

And don’t bad mouth guilds for leaving it has happened all the time on piken and every other server for that matter and it will continue indefinitely.

Good organisation from MS on our bl tonight it almost felt like most your WvW population was on the map, but no seriously i liked your organisation skills with that amount of people the zergs held and stuck together very well.

PsYcHoSeAn.4835:

No, I don’t think so. But i’m really sorry that I prefer fighting real players over doors.

Well it’s not our fault 1 opponent has poor night coverage, anyone bored of PVD are welcome to pick a fight with Abbadon they have a reasonable nightforce and no one says boo to them over it and in fact they often catch us with our pants down in the transition between prime and night shift lol.

Im aware of your concerns around Mad king ruins in zerg fights so at the moment due to the 2 gold a ruin TP cost iv gone undead as their extremely cheap.

Personally iv ran full rabid most of my Necro’s existence only changing build and recently been captivated by trying out a hybrid build, the fact you use Carrion is what draws me to your build. With full condition in a fast paced environment it is damage over time and time is often not in my favor. Not to mention there are valid arguments between using Carrion and Rabid, I still believe conditions are the necro’s strongest asset but having a little direct damage is better than none for those single target instances in finishing players etc. Plus the added health adds to plaque form and DS and for me that is very appealing.

Normally my rabid based build would confine me to WvW as i do not have a fixed group for dungeons but yours facilitates little transition between PVE and PVP and makes me viable in both.

All in all i believe Hybrids are the Necro’s future full condition and power based builds are too predictable but with hybrids you’re never quite sure what to expect facing them.

You can see how outstretched Desolation was tonight when Piken can push Abbadon map unopposed by us and control bay hills and Garrison on their own map whilst we struggle to hold you and Abaddon from our home map you where ticking well above us around 10pm GMT+1 and when you guys pulled back to EB etc Abbadon came in full guns blazing melting doors.

Despite what many think Desolation is thin on the ground when spread out and we have adapted to keeping forces out of maps were heavily outgunned in to reinforce ones we possibly can it’s great that we can mass numbers on a single map and can retain players to work through the night but hey to call us a Vizunah clone is ridiculous people throw that name round so much these days but unless a server has the potential to occupy all four maps simultaneously most of a 24hr period like they do and you have problems evicting them up until prime time then they are nowhere close to vizunah.

Give you an example our night force would melt in the face of vizunah’s i clocked one such drive where 80+ viz stormed EB Overlook at 4:30am GMT+1 we had 20 defending they drove us out of the map completely and every map in quick succession.

Every Server in this matchup has different strengths and weakness that affect us at different times of the day but in general we all put up a decent fight, there is no underdog in this matchup it’s a tooth and nail matchup none of us are getting hammered into the ground and in fact Abbadon is stealing everyones real estate as i type lol