Well i’ve seen very little of the piken guilds I’m more familiar with (I’m aware a lot have gone elsewhere). Think I’ve seen [GG] once on Piken bl, we were running about 10 and shortly after starting [WvW] left the map leaving us on our own vs a 20+ (?) GG raid. GG are a great guild and it would have been a really, really tough fight with equal numbers, so it was just a mismatch really. We were a bit sloppy and slow to react to commander anyway on that day so … yeah, weren’t great fights from our PoV. (Having said that you were impressive in the manner you beat us, your pre-fight movement around cragtop was particularly impressive).
Seen VII once on gandara at water gate of garrison. We somehow managed to beat them, the comments on /m chat and TS were basically ‘how the hell did we win that fight’. They didn’t play well but every guild goes through the odd one and we know they’re better than that. We left that map shortly after because the entire bl was just a lag fest with a 10 sec delay on every skill (if you were lucky) due to garrison lords room fight.
Haven’t seen any others really (hope not anyway, maybe they were buried in the blobs).
The new guilds that have joined your server are frankly lame. We’ve had guilds who outnumbered us 2v1 run away and wait till they had back up from a second guild who outnumbered us 2v1 before engaging. If they dont straight out blob up, then one will wait to one side and tear into your flank or back line 2 secs after you engage.
You seem to have lost a lot of smaller guilds, like the 5 / 10 man camp camping groups so you really need quite high numbers to compete against you, if you dont have the numbers then your left with a pretty crap experience.
Its been a lousy week for gandara and the lack of players logging in could be a large part of the problem. If theres only one group of 10 on the map its understandable that all your guys are going to come kill us, not like they have anything better to do. I could be being harsh, the circumstances of this week aren’t the best for judging you.
With the loss of some of our bigger guilds the smaller camp flippers you mention are now the new front line troops having stepped up to the plate to replace the deficit leaving the friendlies and pugs mostly with the camps, we have some new guilds that are just settling in so they may be a bit rough round the edges.
On the lack of individual guild tags you see well you really need to roam among the bl’s to see who we have as were fairly spread out, your guys on EB have had an interesting time in EB fighting us Afterlife (AFTL) with our max of of about 15 and friendlies against SM on both reset and Monday night but tbh with our lack of any strong numbered guilds were relying more on pug support when taking well defended objectives as apposed to fighting in the field where you may find more of a chance of even numbers.
Another Epic SM fight tonight on EB against AR, one of our towers was being treb’d from SM so AFTL decided we would take it down but with the added pug support we decided to take the whole thing.
Took us a few attempts to get through the outer wall then a longer stint outside inner as the randoms where not carrying sufficient supply and a little difficult to organise not to mention you where heavily defending with numbers and siege everywhere, we had little option but to beat the gate down the old fashioned way but your resistance was commendable even though we got it in the end lol.
Later AFTL put some pressure on Gandara with our rag tag of friendlies but eventually even you guys had had enough of our antics and called in the big boys (XXX), was fun though running around with our Havoc squad many open field clashes some won some lost but def enjoyable all round .
Yep AFTL enjoyed the fights tonight alongside GG and a few others on EB, that keep siege was indeed epic AR where coming from every direction was a very tough standoff in the courtyard
Just keep an eye where the real one goes, hard with the culling issues ik. CC/block helps alot aswell and if ur damage is high enough you should be able to take em down before they get you.
Fought an amazing confusion stacking mesmer from Piken the other day, too bad i didnt have Fraps on then, I had no chance against it cos I didnt know that their fields give confusion when you enter/exit it :p Also if you got the minor trait Reckless Dodge in Strenght tree, dont do any unneccessary dodges with all those Confusion stacks. killed myself once or twice cos of that.
Wasn’t a female humane Mesmer with staff scepter torch combination by any chance? as that might have been me on my alt.
I like this warrior build as i have very little to change armor wise from my current build +1
Their aint one guild that’s left piken i would name call every one of them a great asset in their own right. paid server transfers brought a rush of interest to piken and along with this buggy culling and queue system congested the life out of EU primetime.
Piken has always enjoyed a strong primetime shared with friendlies and pugs the current congestion has placed the guilds in competition with each other and the pugs and randoms forcing one or the other out of bl’s more often the pugs. The status quo hasn’t benefiting the majority of the community recently.
Yes we have lost some guilds we wish we hadn’t however look on the bright side there is a bit more breathing room for smaller guilds to grow and fill the void. People focus on the negatives too much rather than see an opportunity waiting for the taking, after a few weeks those remaining guilds will have taken up front line positions and earned their own fierce reputation and praise on the matchup threads just like TUP/RG /sIN/BOON etc.
Role players fought their way to Tier 2 im sure that’s a GW2 first
On another note there’s still plenty of us willing to fight unfortunately we endured a rather long server meeting prior to reset leaving most mentally exhausted and asleep on our keyboards so apologies for the poor turn out lol
This does not effect zerging it would require 25 people to be hitting the wall or door anyone with a brain knows you need allot less to break the door and can have about 50+ just standing around waiting for the breech.
We have witnessed a whole 2 guild raid hold back off the guards send 4 people in to kill them and pull back then send 3 back on door in golems to take garrison all without yellow swords.
So in effect people will always adapt to this the more larger numbers make use of white swords the more large forces will respond to white sword and the little ninja groups are still going to get steam rolled
I would strongly advise against trying to manipulate the system to stay in a certain tier or with a certain matchup, this only serves to introduce a kitten load of unnecessary politics into a server community resulting in it fragmenting. We humans are designed to always seek to improve ourselves purposely dumbing our selves down is an unnatural thing that more often than not will result in internal community conflict.
It starts off a good idea however a few days in people and guilds start finding that if their competent they still may win even though they aint trying not to mention not everyone on your server will agree and whatever the majority decide there will always be those like randoms who are not aware and rouge guilds that see no fun in holding back and disregard the order to the point that i spoke of above where the community get’s fragmented and hostility breaks out.
Tbh m8 guards are naf nobody should be able to solo them the whole point of upgrading a camp with guards and escorts for dolyaks is to make it difficult and to encourage players to organise not solo or 2 man objectives. I can solo sentries and dolyak escorts, a bit more survivability would be a good thing.
We are so sorry to not give you a fights like RG on a mainly pugs server…
I very much hope your not referring to my home server being a mostly pug server?
You can kitten off about each other but there is no need for that remark Piken has fought it’s way up from T8 and spent the majority of it’s time hovering between T4-T3 due to a lack of early morning coverage but by no means is it a pug server we give as best a fight to any server who is matched with us with a dash of RP fun thrown into the mix for good measure.
The thief and it’s mechanics for example opens the class up to being exploited by 3rd party software and makes them impossible to detect and report by players.
Why? well because many hacks incorporate functions that exist in thief mechanics for example speed increase & teleporting which to an untrained eye could be seen as stealthing which in any other class would be easy to spot and report but a thief using the hacks well even if you did realise something wasn’t right you wouldn’t have sufficient time to keep the target to issue a report.
I have no problem fighting mesmers and thiefs, but again I don´t run GC. I know there are two stats called Vi and tough.
Unless you play the class you should just crawl back in your hole til you know what you talking about.. He is invis, he is not a ghost. skillshot and aoe can kitten a thief anytime. Thief is anti-bad players.
Viatality and Toughness work for surviving a thief’s opener unfortunately you cannot kill what you cannot see or at least know where it is. AOE only works in bottlenecks and closed spaces where a route of travel is predictable any thief who stands in a red circle deserves to die.
AoE and killshot against a stealther? Are you serious? Spamming aoe is completly useless against any semi-decent stealther, as is killshot (its too easy to dodge).
What you need against a stealther is strong offence and lots of interrupts.
That would require to compromise on OP’s Vitality and Toughness claim lol
Your only guaranteed a fighting chance of dropping thiefs in bottlenecks and closed spaces with AOE in the open field they have an almost 90% survival chance.
In previous games iv seen stealth fade you out so it’s still possible for a split second to guess the direction they have gone not in GW2 it’s insta vanish and they can trait to cure conditions on stealth not to mention in some games DOTS placed and damage would knock you back out my experience so far is only seeing thief’s reappear when their downed or when stealth has run out.
In all sense stealth itself is unbalanced for them and not their damage capabilities Anet have over done it’s mechanics and use, iv played many games where stealth classes have always had a strong QQ following but never outside of a L2P like this i personally don’t experience deaths too much i can combat their attacks but unfortunately killing them is the opposite the minute their opener fails they vanish and break combat over and over with little to no way of restraining them.
Iv experienced this very issue also iv had guild members log whilst in WvW and confused the kitten out of me when their blue icons have remained on the map.
I started to Queue up at 18:00 GMT and it was almost 19:45 by the time the bl popped, others from my guild where queued in and around the same time as me and still in the Queue up to 20:00-21:00.
So from about 18:00-20:00 out of a total of 15 guild members in Queue we had 2-3 able to raid up until that point.
Prioritizing development on PVE content before sorting out the guesting issue that was holding back paid transfers has done more harm than good WvW is a big portion of the end game to Guild Wars 2.
Simply throwing in something like this that should already have been around since launch after the damage is done is highly reckless.
On a server that has a low WvW population it very may well be killing it however on higher population servers anything that draws people away from WvW for a while is a godsend to ease the unbearable Queues experienced.
@Alfven regarding the the dictatorship comment, m8 when it comes to Piken there’s two communities the RP and the WvW and they both have their own forums. The WvW community forums is well advertised and we held weekly TS meetings for all to attend regardless of what camp you belong to, the WvW community does not lock out RP we very much intended for you guys to have representation among us to unite us under one community in WvW.
Last Friday Piken guilds and players came out in such force to take part and express their concerns that we broke the TS channel, if none of your guys represented your community in this meeting when all options where discussed you can hardly claim the result a dictatorship or a selfish act.
When many decided enough was enough it was done in the presence of a great number of piken everyone had their chance to speak and debate the matter im sorry if this did not include representation from RP’s but that is not our fault as the door was always open if even one of you wished to vote by proxy on behalf of your community.
Im glad everyone learnt something and enjoyed themselves probably the last time you will see piken fight as a strong server many of the community are now leaving for lower tiers to get out of the predicament success has bestowed upon us.
The reason this thread is still going after our matchup is an indication that for some this remains to them one of the best times they have had in GW2.
lol a guild recruited from Gandara today, your folks are still inviting so you may wanna spread this message through the community at large first :P
None of our folks are recruiting anyone we apparently are attracting people regardless and that guild will see for themselves they where better off on Gandara because this server has already begun to take a huge nose dive and will only get worse over the next few weeks.
Not to mention if the community at large is not on this forum which is why this thread even exists those guilds are merely the deaf leading the blind
I personally do not mind other servers advertising on this thread the thread was created to highlight our plight and all these people have merely offered an alternative to re-balance the population out and ease the pressure.
Anyone considering Piken or may have joined recently will see this thread and understand 1 that we are full at prime time EU and Queues are seriously long and 2 they also can see alternatives that have similar communities with fewer queue’s and a safer bet to stay on past paid transfers.
Ignore him im sure most of piken would support the fact your offering an alternative to those who are considering coming or are new arrivals to Piken that have only unfortunately done more harm than good.
There are many servers reaching out for people your is one of many examples Piken is unfortunately not one of those servers we can no longer facilitate the expectations many would find appealing and further more do you want to be stuck in that position after paid transfers because lets be honest the next few weeks up until then are not going to be fun for anyone and we will be stuck in that situation until everyone quits the game.
I agree im one of those considering leaving as Queue’s equal hrs not minutes on all bl’s it’s not even funny in the slightest. Not to mention the old fighting spirit of Piken is gone and it’s just random pugs who run the defense of our bl, i see another server following BT’s free fall before paid transfers come in as nobody will want to be stuck on a sinking ship.
Queues are so bad we cannot get our strong prime time guilds in intact and many are leaving as a result to lower populated servers and NA servers, community spirit is a shambles as the remainder choose to vent their frustration on their fellow Piken than the enemy all in all we went from a united community to a divided community in 2 weeks all because of the influx of un invited EU prime time guilds that have destroyed the sensitive balance that Piken had achieved (Piken Square R.I.P)
Tbh id be more worried about going down tiers than moving up, the lower tiers have taken the brunt of transfers lately as it has become now all the rage to join lower tiers than Tier 1-2 so expect them to come bum rushing tiers in a few weeks time.
Can’t blame them though we all make so much hype about our tiers having awesome guilds and brilliant fights and this is the place to have more fun than the highly frustrating and sleepless nights they experienced in Tier 1-2, basically in a nutshell we have been unofficially advertising ourselves and now we are reaping what we sow.
When paid transfers come it will no longer be which server has the most skill but who can retain the most population and coverage as there will no longer be the means to replace lost players and guilds, when things go sour, then many will be crying for Anet to merge servers etc.
Yeah all in vain we thought it might have snuck out the back of SM and into the ogre camp but Gandara showed up just before reset and got in the way of the search have no idea where it is now hopefully someone on night shift will spot it and we will be hot on it’s trail again, some poor old lady in divinty reach will have to spend another cold winters night without her poor fluffy
Had fun tonight although short lived due to an appearance of an excruciating queue that appeared as the night progressed took almost 30 mins to get back into EB.
Who ever the DD Ele is from Gandara that fought my mesmer for up to 10 mins in a duel outside one of the keeps in EB in the ruins below that was the best fight iv had in a while i was unable to make much of a scratch on you but i held out a fair while longer than i expected, if your reading this i return your salute well played
Your only assume he isn’t originally from your server, let me remind you it is his golem blue print he is entitled to do with it what he chooses if he wants to use some Supply to build it and try out a golem only to ditch it outside realising 1 it aint fast and second it’s no good without a door to pound on then that’s his loss not yours.
It would be a whole different matter if he was building multiple golem with the keeps supply and ditching them then he really would be suspicious or worse still stealing your golems to ditch outside. My conclusion is an isolated incident here where some dude wanted to probably try out a golem for the first time don’t jump too quick to conclusions.
What a night that was epic fights all rnd on AR bl you guys just kept coming at that hole in the garrison wall at one point only less than 12 of us where covering that gap due to pressure being applied on the west side and by god it was hard fought for and in the end you deserved to get it back
Also id like to mention the fellow AR mesmer who repeatably handed me my kitten south of hills gg i was rightfully outplayed lol
Ok people calm down let’s try and finish this week off without anymore drama and just have some fun. Im starting to feel like im back in T1 with BT and VIZ at each others throats lol.
What ever has happened has happened any further upset take it onto the battlefield or laugh it off, that goes for everyone this kittening about does not inspire people it makes only a small proportion of people feel good for the majority im sure agree it makes them fed up.
Friendly rivalry is good but serious trolling and cheap shot’s across the bow leading to individuals arguing the back legs of a Dolyak come on were all better than this.
Another Alliance in the jumping puzzle is nonsense the puzzle is pve content in a pvp environment most of what goes on in there has no reflection on WvW, full of pugs randoms and people farming for their legendary friends from different factions may join up who can stop them it is not part of the bigger WvW battle it’s an element all of it’s own and it does not effect the score does it?
I don’t know if the same guild reported is the one responsible for this iether but iv had guild member reports of players on AR one was a glass cannon GS Warrior who when retreating would blip short distances away like some sort of short range teleport and a guardian who has the ability to go invisible all by himself and at one point do it before trying to jump up a wall.
I witnessed the GC warrior myself on reset at the NW tower on PS BL there was a group making siege and when we went to investigate the whole group mass stealthe’d they reappeared with the GC warrior spinning into me i downed in 0.4 of a second then was rallied started hammering the warrior and he started blipping away from me.
Anyone else seen characters like this? i hope you AR guys manage to catch these fools dragging the decent players down.
Ok can we this week put the PS /AR alliance of last week to bed the piking community voiced it’s opinions last night before reset and i got the impression most agree and are now against such actions being repeated or supported by the community in the future. The original formation of this so called alliance was implemented by a few commanders over xmas period where WvW attendance was possibly not ideal.
There are issues as well that would arise from locking free transfers. Server’s are not equally balanced lock it and some server communities would die as they would not be able to gain any transfers to boost their numbers in WvW so rather than what you have now where WvW guilds move around they would be stuck and forced to quit unless like the OP mentions where lower tier servers are free to balance out their population.
Piken does not roll over and hide even with our 15-20 man groups we will stand and be rolled over by the enemy 50 man groups if it comes to it, the week has not fully began so it is early days to say how easy we are to roll over as some claim on the German forum. Were the 300 spartans against superior numbers in this match up and i expect every Piken will fight like one as usual
AnyhOo, we all are suffering from this new culling issue. I wanted to know, if we actually could team up, all 3 servers on EB* ex. and have group picture with 500 (hopefully) players for a final g-bang, big finale? …..you know like a demonstration against the bad culling system=
(just a thought; didnt see anyone doing if before, so why not?)
*or any other BL
I’l tell you what m8 get 3 people together from each server and take a pic you could say 500 where there because in reality we know the new culling system is so bad that’s all we would likely see in such circumstances and no one would question you
You do realise though that it is a common bug for people to get trapped inside a wall when it re-spawns and people are inside the gap?
Id hardly say its an exploit or cheating it happens quite often especially when a group is trying to get through a wall breach and even defenders get trapped whilst somebody is repairing that section of wall but rarely are you able to actually do anything but jump about inside.
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