Guild Wars 2

Vespirisa.1497:

I thought it was Tarnished Tuesdays Where are all teh TC players. I see a lot of FA running around

Tarnished Tuesday has been cancelled until further notice. From this point forward, Tuesday shall be named “Smash on TC Tuesday”. Good Day.

Absolutely terrible changes to arrowcarts Anet. You should be working on minimalizing arrowcarts and maximizing PvP encounters. Arrowcarts encourage turtling and that is bad.

Asudementio.8526:

Always nice seeing FA players keeping it classy by jumping on bodies for a few minutes after 3v1.

The real problem I see with this situation is why did it take you “a few minutes” to respawn? If you don’t like what happens after you die, don’t sit there and take it.

Tallis.5607:

Score update!

It is ofcourse way too soon to draw any conslusions whatesoever, but it’s intresting to see how much rating the #1 servers in the first 4 tiers lose during reset: JQ -25, TC -61, KN -62 and SoS -117.

I never noticed that before. It’s from 3 hours ago, so only after 4 hours of play, which says nothing for the future, but it’s still odd.

You got the wrong score pic there.

Equinox.4195:

ShaunZ.1098:

Equinox.4195:

We definitely don’t have 100 people. It’s just a l2play issue.

Yeah … you spam 1 with more skill than everyone else

If that’s what FA thinks wins a zerg vs. zerg fight, I can see why we steamroll them every time with equal numbers.

Looooooooooooooooooooooooool.

Anyways, can’t wait to get into the fights tomorrow. Looking forward to some fun respectable fights with DB and also having some fun rolling through the sea of TC.

Looking forward to this week’s reset and a new opponent. If your looking for a stable server with a great community definitely try out FA. We get to spend the next several weeks killing role players, what more could you want?

The best Australasians in the universe!

If your looking for a skilled bunch with a fun atmosphere then definitely check out DPS. Two-thumbs up from this guy.

timidobserver.7925:

Why GVG when they can just randomly find you on the map and then wipe you.

Because its a good way to get the forum warriors to dissapear once they realize they might actually have to back their trash talk up. I would think TC would embrace this idea since they are don’t want any trolling in their match up threads. Or maybe that only applies to other servers and not their own……?

Coinin.2590:

Aytrix.4059:

Coinin.2590:

Hadunius, just because a guild won’t GvG you doesn’t mean that they are pathetic, or unworthy or something

He said no such thing.

While I do thank you, like many other’s who quote things, for only taking the one phrase that best suits you. Please note i never said he said that, I was simply telling him that just because a guild won’t accept a GvG offer doesn’t mean that. But thank you, I appreciate you taking my quote out of context to use it for your own purpose.

I edited my post to include your entire post. My previous post still stands. What did he say that made you assume he would think any of those things?

Coinin.2590:

Hadunius, just because a guild won’t GvG you doesn’t mean that they are pathetic, or unworthy or something, could just mean they don’t want to take the time to schedule a GvG. We’ve scheduled like 3-4 last few months, and none of them happened cause at the last minute other things cause up for the other guild…so of course we don’t really care to spend a lot of time organizing a GvG and trying to find perfect times…not when we can just enter in WvW and have fun without trying to see who can win the trophy

He said no such thing.

Euka.9014:

Hadunius. I wouldn’t know to be honest. It’ll always be A’s perspective on the scenario versus B’s and vice versa. I was just pointing it out as a reader who comes on here to follow up on the days I don’t get on. Every couple of pages I’d see a taunt for GvG. Not just this thread but in the last few weeks as well and that’s why I said it’s getting stale. Once again, I’d like to point out that this is my own opinion and I can only hope no one bashes TC for my own 2 cents. =)

GLHF

(edit for bad english :P)

So out of curiosity, in your own opinion, who is taunting who? The TCer who is trash talking an FA guild or the FAer who asks the TCer to back up his talk with an even fight?

Haldunius.7864:

Aytrix.4059:

Ruprect.7260:

please try to take the tower again

I honestly at this point could care less if we win or lose we are finally getting some fights!!!!

Sad as it is getting wiped by your gigantic zerg is more fun that I have had all week. Everyone has just been running all week

We’d love to set up a fight with even numbers tomorrow (thursday), what time is DIS available?

Don’t worry Rup, TC and FA will still be in this tier if you guys are busy all day tomorrow. I’d love to see this epic clash of titans and I doubt I’m alone.

It won’t be an epic clash… They will run over us with even numbers. Maybe if we got 30 pugs to help us and have 10 spies sit in their spawn, we might be able to beat their 15… NAY!! 10 supreme fighters. I’m sure all of TC would proclaim them supreme wizard kings of Tarnished Coast while showering them with roses and Code Red Mountain Dew for beating us meanie pants BT. All they have to do is tell us where to be and glory will be theirs………………

Ruprect.7260:

Aytrix.4059:

Ruprect.7260:

please try to take the tower again

I honestly at this point could care less if we win or lose we are finally getting some fights!!!!

Sad as it is getting wiped by your gigantic zerg is more fun that I have had all week. Everyone has just been running all week

We’d love to set up a fight with even numbers tomorrow (thursday), what time is DIS available?

We are already taken for another GvG tomorrow night.

Surely you can make time for a push over guild like BT… Maybe after your other GvG? I mean it shouldn’t take more than a couple minutes to wipe us up since we won’t be able to zerg you guys…

Ruprect.7260:

please try to take the tower again

I honestly at this point could care less if we win or lose we are finally getting some fights!!!!

Sad as it is getting wiped by your gigantic zerg is more fun that I have had all week. Everyone has just been running all week

We’d love to set up a fight with even numbers tomorrow (thursday), what time is DIS available?

Atrophied.8725:

Hey FA… you, um, have a lot of superior ACs in there, huh? I think I counted 17 total? Ow.

Kn Hills belongs to HL… that is their doing. They are FA’s exclusive siege masters.

I am honestly surprised you made it through… lol.

Good luck guilds of Kn… you guys these last few weeks have reminded me of FA in that you could do more with less. You guys kept this match somewhat fun so I thank you for that.

Lanimal.6541:

Maniac.5163:

This is fascinating. My favourite bit is where it seems to the enemy like AVTR has more than 10 at any given time on the field.

“As you notice both us and FA have two time-zones where we are dominant in and Kaineng has one timezone that they are super dominant in. Both of FA’s dominant timezones are SHORT in duration, sometimes medium (Oceanic), whereas we have one medium and one long duration. This means realistically if we take advantage of our European timezone and minimize our losses during Oceanic and SEA using smart macro-tactics we can win this tier.”

Isn’t this what I was talking about? More coverage = more players available over the 24 hour stretch.. am I missing something here?

Your fallacy lies in the fact that you are assuming coverage is calculated in a 1v1 between FA and TC thats not the case, Kaineng is/was very much in the picture as well and our European can be completely a non-factor if WM is allowed to focus TC down during their SEA and late into our European thus negating our second semi-dominant timezone completely. What I am saying is that FA had all the coverage they needed to win T2 as well if they followed an overall meta strategy like we did.

Commanders like Jadon, Odinzu, Nightlight, Rhyme and many others worked with me in implementing this strategy which allowed us to win T2 that one week with inferior coverage.

I think what he is saying is that when you add a ton of players in one time zone, it boosts other time zone coverage as well since many people play during multiple time zone primetimes. Thus, TC adds a ton of Oceanic/SEA leads to boosts during NA (west coast) and EU, giving them a bigger advantage.

Also, no one is mad on FA that we aren’t winning, not sure where you got that idea. We like the fights in T2 and want to stay here in T2. Many actually prefer not coming in first because it keeps us from having ques.

Lanimal.6541:

Andy.9137:

Tallis.5607:

Andy.9137

Losing respect for TC because of the pretentious attitude of it’s forum warriors. Although the backhand comments from FA make us look bad as well.

The (albeit subtle) difference is that these FA-people are trashing TC already for months and TC never really replied in the past.

But there comes a point when too much is too much.

For me, that point came when these FAers kept saying that they were better than TC… after TC won against FA 7 times in a row.

When FA looses 7 matches against TC and some FAers keep saying over and over and over AND OVER that FA is better than TC, you can not expect that TC just stays quiet and doesn’t react to these insults.

Sure, you can say ‘be the better person and let them insult you over and over’ and that is what TC did. For weeks and weeks and weeks.

But at a certain moment, too much is too much, even for nice and gentle RPers like TC.

Your view of wvw is extremely narrow minded. Winning and losing in wvw does not come down to the general skill level of that server. Saying “FA lost to TC 7 times therefore TC is better” is wrong. Truth is we will never truly know who is better because there is no chance at ever having a completely balanced week long match where the presence of players in all maps are exactly the same.

That is the truth.

I wish arenanet would have released the actual active numbers of players in WvWvW previously. Then I could point at how FA had stronger coverage for weeks and was still unable to beat us. Then I can use the statistics and say clearly we are better than you because we beat you guys with inferior coverage.

But the fact is that’s never going to happen or even if it does it not anytime soon. Until then we just have to look at the numbers and the results, sure you can Q.Q about us having superior coverage or numbers but at the end of the day by the rule-set of WvWvW we are beating you and that is the end result. That end-result makes us better at the game that is WvWvW.

There are many aspects of WvWvW, four map coordination, meta, ppt, open-field fighting, defense etc and you guys can claim as much as you want to be better at one aspect of WvWvW which is open-field fighting through having more people that like to have their kitten enlarged by recording footage and selectively editing it. However being better (debatable) at one aspect of WvWvW does not make you better than us as a server at WvWvW. The sooner you guys realize that the better it will be for both servers (open-field fighting is not the be all and end all of WvWvW).

We don’t have stats on actual WvW participation, but we do have stats on total server population and TC has always been top 3 in total population (at least since TC and FA met in T3). That means TC has always had a larger pot to draw from when it comes to getting people in WvW. That is where the numbers argument comes from. Argue it or not, we know that is a fact.

Nobody has ever said open-field fighting is the be all and end all of WvW. That is the part most of us enjoy, so that is the part we will focus on most. Sorry if you can’t grasp that notion.

Gellor.6497:

Bump for a very cool server. FA has some of the best guilds I’ve seen in WvW and we DB are looking forward to fight our friends.

Thanks DB, hope your new guilds work out good for you guys. We will be seeing you guys soon I’m sure.

Still could definitely use some more bodies to bolster our numbers against thou who shall not be named. SEA, EU, and U.S. West coast players/guilds are what we could use most, but if you enjoy the fights of WvW and don’t let the meta game ruin your day, we’d love to have you join us.

Shelleroy Jenkins.1048:

Just donated $50 for the 100 WvW invaders I killed this reset weekend.

This email confirms that you have donated $50.00 USD to The One Fund Boston, Inc. using PayPal.

Awesome work.

It fills the void until something better comes along.

Rawr.5930:

Aytrix.4059:

Lanimal.6541:

Aytrix.4059:

MrSilver.5269:

Ulfnar.8317:

And yes, we were ping ponging between maps last night trying to bolster our defenses and hold what we had. You know, doing that whole PPT thing that some of you guys are telling us to learn.

And practice makes perfect.

One day you’ll get there if you continue to work hard and don’t get discouraged because you aren’t seeing a return on your investment.

Or maybe we could just recruit our way to victory and then try and talk trash on the forums. Nah, that would be too easy.

You mean like the time we won T2 and took green without the new guilds coming over? (Note: We won T2 without superior coverage)

Yes, back when the tier was semi-balanced, congrats. Now that it isn’t anymore and winning is based on numbers, its funny how TCers pick now to come to the forums to chest thump. Just find it kinda sad.

I see mostly responses to backhanded sniping rather than outright chest thumping frankly.

Maybe if you’d stop with the now VERY old QQ about the usual crap EVERYONE is guilty off, then maybe we can have a civil thread without it always devolving into this pile of poop.

Excalibur.9748:

Let’s not drop down to FA’s level. We’re dominating them so much now, they’re just bitter that we’re much better in terms of coverage and skill level.

MrSilver.5269:

And practice makes perfect.

One day you’ll get there if you continue to work hard and don’t get discouraged because you aren’t seeing a return on your investment.

MrSilver.5269:

Vash.9183:

Well, according to the millenium website, Dragonbrand is going to jump straight to 2nd place in tier 2 and it’s Fort Aspenwood that’s going to lose so much rating that it’ll drop straight to tier 3. and this is all for the next match-up. lol. Dragonbrand has an amazing SEA coverage and they just gained an NA guild from Jade Quarry.

That’s fantastic…

Finally a third server that can pull their weight!

Because these totally aren’t back handed sniping or chest thumping….

This really shows the true colors of my fellow FAers. Thanks to all those who set this up.

I’m a poor college student, so my pledge will be $.02 for each kill this weekend. Hopefully can get that up to 30-40 dollars. Look out TC and Kain.

fenim.2395:

All I see are bad guilds who jump to a server to win. Not FA or TC’s fault.

TC paid for those guilds to jump to their server.

Lanimal.6541:

Andy.9137:

The difference is that the IoJ guilds came to us. We didn’t approach them. I’m not too familiar with how KN got theirs…but the reason for this drama (at least my understanding) is that it became quite apparent (from quite a few posts now) that TC will gladly cripple other servers to make their server even bigger for that precious win.

Just because you were not in on the VOIP meetings with FA representatives talking to IoJ representatives back then; please don’t assume FA doesn’t have people actually actively recruiting as well.

Just stop. You are completely missing the point. lol

All WxP means is that you play a lot and you run around in a big group most the time. It’s unfortunate, could have been an awesome system if it was done differently.

Jayne.9251:

Aytrix.4059:

Jayne.9251:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Jayne.9251:

I don’t think GvG can happen with FA/TC simply because of the level of mutual antagonism and vitriol. For GvG to happen there has to at least be a small level of mutual respect/trust and repeated efforts to try to establish this has failed.

Wut?

Maguuma and almost any server will do gvg and fight clubs no matter what level of forum trolling goes on. That’s not really a reasonable excuse. People generally will be fair except for those sneaky [awe] guys and their trebs in gvg

If there’s no respect, there’s no trust. If there’s no trust, there’s less inclination to do anything that requires cooperation like GvG. Because there’s no trust, there’s no guarantee that a 5v5 would be honoured without some big gank squad swooping in and voiding the agreement. And given TC/FA history that just keeps perpetuating itself, it’s completely reasonable. But I don’t speak for the big guilds. This is just my observation.

That’s why you have someone record it. Hard to argue with video evidence. BT is more than willing to have a fair, friendly GvG with any guild willing. So far our requests are met with silence or excuses and that makes us sad pandas.

Then help change this toxic climate we have here. Stomp your trolls, we will stomp ours.

Our history doesn’t have to be permanent. But it’s limiting so much more that could happen, I think. At least for some.

Kain will thank us for it. I feel badly that they have to put up with this same garbage, week after week.

Coral, you should have pulled a ham for me.

I’d rather just see The main TC faces here on the forums admit their server is just as trolly as any other server and that dictating how others should act on the internet is never going to work.

Jayne.9251:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Jayne.9251:

I don’t think GvG can happen with FA/TC simply because of the level of mutual antagonism and vitriol. For GvG to happen there has to at least be a small level of mutual respect/trust and repeated efforts to try to establish this has failed.

Wut?

Maguuma and almost any server will do gvg and fight clubs no matter what level of forum trolling goes on. That’s not really a reasonable excuse. People generally will be fair except for those sneaky [awe] guys and their trebs in gvg

If there’s no respect, there’s no trust. If there’s no trust, there’s less inclination to do anything that requires cooperation like GvG. Because there’s no trust, there’s no guarantee that a 5v5 would be honoured without some big gank squad swooping in and voiding the agreement. And given TC/FA history that just keeps perpetuating itself, it’s completely reasonable. But I don’t speak for the big guilds. This is just my observation.

That’s why you have someone record it. Hard to argue with video evidence. BT is more than willing to have a fair, friendly GvG with any guild willing. So far our requests are met with silence or excuses and that makes us sad pandas.

Shrouded.6450:

…and the guy who started this is gone. (smh)

You are correct. The TC who came here running his mouth is definitely gone the second he got called out. You got good eyes.

sceptus.9415:

Aytrix.4059:

sceptus.9415:

I’ll fight any one of you 1v1. Still, I’m not sure what its going to prove. In the end, you are still FA and we are still TC. I think some of you guys are playing the wrong game here.

That’s fine and dandy, but no one is here talking kitten about you. The guy we are replying to took the time out of his day to come to the forums to try and talk kitten. We called him out on it and as I assumed he is just another TC troll. I guess we are suppose to just look the other way because of how “nice” of a server TC thinks TC is.

At least as nice, or perhaps nicer than the folks from your server. Hey, that’s just an opinion from a TC player, and with all the spit and vinegar here, how could anyone believe it? We are bunch of devils.

We are plenty nice to the people who are deserving of it.

sceptus.9415:

I’ll fight any one of you 1v1. Still, I’m not sure what its going to prove. In the end, you are still FA and we are still TC. I think some of you guys are playing the wrong game here.

That’s fine and dandy, but no one is here talking kitten about you. The guy we are replying to took the time out of his day to come to the forums to try and talk kitten. We called him out on it and as I assumed he is just another TC troll. I guess we are suppose to just look the other way because of how “nice” of a server TC thinks TC is.

Obby Shards.9365:

Aytrix.4059:

Obby Shards.9365:

Yeah running with even numbers must be why BT got wiped when they dropped on us with +20 more then us. huh

What guild are you representing? BT would love to do a GvG with you guys. Judging from your post you must think you are pretty good so I expect you will be here scheduling a GvG against us for sometime this week. Look forward to your reply.

Unless you are just trolling and/or describing a dream you had one night where you wiped BT with less players. If this is the case I expect no response at all or just a bunch of silly excuses on why you won’t do a GvG against BT.

Last time i watched a GvG against [HOPE] and [CERN] cern won and the VK wiped them so nope

And you chose to go the route of silly excuses. Please do not bring up BT in your posts unless you are gonna back up your trash talk. Wipe you later.

Obby Shards.9365:

Yeah running with even numbers must be why BT got wiped when they dropped on us with +20 more then us. huh

What guild are you representing? BT would love to do a GvG with you guys. Judging from your post you must think you are pretty good so I expect you will be here scheduling a GvG against us for sometime this week. Look forward to your reply.

Unless you are just trolling and/or describing a dream you had one night where you wiped BT with less players. If this is the case I expect no response at all or just a bunch of silly excuses on why you won’t do a GvG against BT.

IRSyKo.5843:

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Score update. My oh my how the tides turned this week. Good fights all the way around.

I hope you guys win!

Lol

Jhawk.1360:

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

Jhawk.1360:

FA to me is a very determined server, we never give up and always try our hardest! I do agree that it seems we are a lot more organized over this week. Our milita, guilds of large and small size have all worked together to achieve this. No we are not all old beared men XD Alot of us are younger than 30 :P

…so inebriated golem jockey wizards with only some beards? Does not compute. You can’t be wizards without beards. Even the ladies.

Why are we wizards? :P

We stole the robe and wizard hat off the corpse of a fallen TC roleplayer and we are drunk, so its only natural to put it on and pretend you are roleplaying for kittens and giggles.

KonstantinDK.1704:

Hello, from EU SFR (#1 currently) server, I don’t represent a guild, just asking for myself.
My game time is
Week days:10 EDT (14 GMT) to 15 EDT (19 GMT)-2-3 hours total
Weekends: 1 EDT (5 GMT) to 14 EDT (18 GMT) -5+ hours total
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
Is this the time you are looking for?

I don’t have a ton of gold to waste, cause I just bought commander, so plz tell me(I’m sure some other people will be interested, too):
How many people you have in TS/on the map in those hours?
How many commanders? Do you need more (I’m not that good, but enough to gather randoms)
How hard are the fights? Should I expect 20+ zerg fights, 10 ppl fights, or are you so little in numbers that you have to run from other zergs and sneak around while they are elsewhere? Or do others run from you for same reason?
——————-
SFR is currently #1, even though we are MED populated and our enemies are VERY HIGH. On weekend morning when I start most map is green (thank you night team), we have around 15 ppl in TS. We always have music bots on, so it’s not boring, but fun. Around noon some guilds start having raids and we have 40+ ppl TS. When we are attacked by big zerg on one map we call rapid response teams (guilds who have raids, hell even pugs come) from other maps to come help defend. At prime time 100-250 ppl in TS (some do pve). I mean server TS, some guilds use their own for primetime. We also have our website, and guild officers usually coordinate the raid times. Smaller or less organized guilds just use community TS to create private rooms.
This is the key to our success. We are taken down only by the numbers, not by skill =)
http://www.pevepe.net/gw2events our server TS is listed there on first page

Can I expect a similar level of cooperation, team spirit and fun on your server? =)
I don’t expect the same numbers at your night – I want to scale down from hard core-to casual player.

From my limited experience in that time frame I know that most days we hold our own (usually around +200 ppt). Obviously its one of our least populated timezones (just like most other servers. We have pretty even coverage with the other T2 servers.)

I’m pretty sure we have a couple guild groups running during that time but don’t think we have any straight European guilds atm. Most of our coverage during that time is made up of people from other timezones who happen to be on at that time.

Hopefully someone else with alittle more knowledge of that timezone will come on to answer your questions a little better.

MonkeyButtFace.4862:

FA, I would like to thank you for all the loot bags you have so generously plopped into our hands while starting Siegerazor again and again for three hours! Also, to the Warrior/Necromancer team that I fought by Lake and by south camp of TCBL, ALSO thanks for the loot and two points of WXP.

Come on TC, you’re so worried about troll posts from other servers that you can’t even control your own trolls…

So things have settled and its clear that FA is still LFM to join us for WvW fun. If you are interested in the greatness that is T2 fights without the T1 drama, then Fort Aspenwood is by far your best choice. We are the underdog, but our enemies still tremble when they face us on the battlefield.

Right now our recruitment priority is:
1. SEA/ EU
2. Oceanic
3. NA west coast
4. NA east coast

PM any one of the many people who post info in this thread about FA and they will be happy to answer your questions.

Still searching for players/guilds to help cover the SEA/EU timezone. Out other timezones are pretty solid heading into WvW patch day.

Still looking for a SEA guild or two to help fill our coverage gap. If you love good fights and tons of loot bags, FA is the best server to join.

bump for the homies in HERO.

Bump for the homies in DPS.

Thursday night, we’re in third place by 7k, and we hold a 300+ ppt throughout NA primetime. Our enemies like to say we give up, but I don’t think we ever got the memo.

FA is a great community and we are welcoming anyone who wants gather tasty loot bags with us.

Teamkiller.4315:

Aytrix.4059:

Pretty classless posts from the TCers here. Seems they are so quick to label others as trolls but then turn a blind eye to their own trolling. Eh, is what the internet is I guess.

Look at the post right above yours. A TC’er is calling out the TC troll who was thumping his chest about the history of matches between TC and FA.

My post is directed at TCers who point the finger at FA as the sole reason the thread isn’t as “nice” as they like. 1 TCer calling out their own trolls is a start, but I’d think a server that is all about “playing nice” would speak out more about their own classless posters.

Pretty classless posts from the TCers here. Seems they are so quick to label others as trolls but then turn a blind eye to their own trolling. Eh, is what the internet is I guess.

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

man I am glad to see my old friends from IOJ kicking kitten even on new server. And my old guild going strong ! Keep the good job guys !

We are all glad they joined us. A lot of very cool people came over from IOJ.

This thread is funny.

A great guild to join if you play during their time slot.

I believe these guys are still looking for more to join em… give them a shot.

Come shore up our coverage, we will like you for it.