Guild Wars 2

Blacktide have gained about 11k on us today, from what I can tell. I think this is going to be close.

If it stays this way with an 11k a day gain they will win.

LameFox.6349:

I don’t find it’s too bad in pvp. Perhaps not too great at escaping (I mean you could probably build it for that, but I wouldn’t want to) but takes a fair bit of hitting to go down and hits back pretty hard itself. I mean I’ve had thieves try to do their backstabbing stealth stuff on me, only to get smacked down by swinging the basic attack at air. Or better yet one guy stole and started using whirling axe or whatever it is… near-instant hammer KO.

Ethics.4519:

60% of the time it worked everytime.

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60% of the time, it works everytime

It’s a quote from Anchorman.

I enjoy playing my warrior in WvW, I find I’ve got quite a good DPS build with my rifle warrior but have enough toughness to mitigate some incoming damage. It’s all about playstyle and watching your surroundings.

Snort.3698:

We spent the day in Desolation borderlands and I suspect the forces we faced were not amongst the organised groups from Deso or AR.

Snort
Warband Leader – The Unnamed.

I can confirm, as a Deso member, that I believe IRON and their alliance were in AR borderlands yesterday while RUIN were in EB, so you’re right in saying you did not face either of our two biggest guilds in force.

When I was in Deso borderlands last night we didn’t even have a commander in, which was highly unusual. Last night was weird, even for our activity standards, just didn’t seem to be anyone on till really late.

22 and I’ve never been more interested in a game ever

Eddict.9867:

To be fair we held the point lead most of yesterday

You held the point lead while the majority of our server was at work or sleeping.

I noticed a quick trend as soon as people started turning up you lost points at a rapid pace after about 7.30/8pm. We didn’t catch up for a little bit because you just had so many, but still.

Akuma.7098:

Whatever, those who cheat should be banned. Still we getting our butt kicked pretty hard right now. Dunno whats going on, it is like every second you need to defend 3 objectives at once. GJ BlackTide and Augury you really showing your worth right now.

I hope we get some coordination or at least PVE players stay in PVE areas…

I think some it is because it’s a weekday, the RUIN members that play all day at weekend might not be on yet.

Raap.9065:

Deso players dropping the ball again. Not winning in score so we got no queues and no zergs. Nasty cycle, and I hope to see it broken one day.

It’s insane, as soon as it starts not being all rosy for us everyone leaves -.-

Blacktide are definitely staying up later, I guess either they genuinely do have more people or IRON and RUIN haven’t turned up yet.

I run a guild on Desolation. We’re a small guild of about 30 people, named Brothers of Aesir [BoA]. Our aim is to build a community together, forge strong friendships and play this game for years together. There’s always a core of us on TS in the evenings chatting and playing together (you can normally find anywhere from 5-12 of us on TS and we’re poking some of the others into coming on regularly)

We’re 18+ with a one week trial. We do accept under 18s too, but they have a two week trial just to make sure we know they’re mature enough to not cause drama or dishonour the Brothers of Aesir name in game.

We WvW nearly every night, we run dungeons nearly every night, we level alts together (well me and the other co-founder are, we’ve got a couple of level 80s that tag along and make sure we don’t die to much :P)

We’re UK based although our membership has slowly spread to include places such as Sweden, Norway, Poland and Estonia. I’m sure there’s at least one or two more nations that I can’t remember right now!

What we’re looking for in members is essentially someone who will chat on TS, have a laugh with us, run some dungeons, have a bit of a lark about, then get serious and partake in wvw when we go in. We form as many 5 man parties as possible, (usually we have 1 full party and then a half full party) and essentially raid camps, kill dolyaks, disrupt supply and occasionally take an undefended tower or two.

If you’re interested, just send me a PM here, or whisp me in game (using this account name )

Brunners,
Founder of Brothers of Aesir [BoA]
brothersofaesir.eu

Well I think those people are in a minority.

I often see people use the term “random” but it’s just used as a way to generalise the people who aren’t recognisable. If that makes sense?

Like…if I’m talking to my friends I will say something like “There’s a bunch of IRON/RUIN/LOR/GG here” or I will say something like “there’s a bunch of randoms here”

It’s natural that those bigger guilds are going to make a name for themselves, doesn’t mean randoms are any less valued or anything.

In my opinion anyway

I can’t get on for another hour and a half minimum, can someone update me on the score and current projected points?

Are you settled on Gandara? Is it definite that you have to stay there?

I run a guild on Desolation. We’re a small guild of about 30 people, named Brothers of Aesir [BoA]. Our aim is to build a community together, forge strong friendships and play this game for years together. There’s always a core of us on TS in the evenings chatting and playing together (you can normally find anywhere from 5-12 of us on TS and we’re poking some of the others into coming on regularly)

We’re 18+ with a one week trial. We do accept under 18s too, but they have a two week trial just to make sure we know they’re mature enough to not cause drama or dishonour the Brothers of Aesir name in game.

We WvW nearly every night, we run dungeons nearly every night, we level alts together (well me and the other co-founder are, we’ve got a couple of level 80s that tag along and make sure we don’t die to much :P)

We’re UK based although our membership has slowly spread to include places such as Sweden, Norway, Poland and Estonia. I’m sure there’s at least one or two more nations that I can’t remember right now!

What we’re looking for in members is essentially someone who will chat on TS, have a laugh with us, run some dungeons, have a bit of a lark about, then get serious and partake in wvw when we go in. We form as many 5 man parties as possible, (usually we have 1 full party and then a half full party) and essentially raid camps, kill dolyaks, disrupt supply and occasionally take an undefended tower or two.

If you’re interested, just send me a PM here. I understand you might not be willing to switch server, but I thought I’d extend the offer anyway!

Brunners,
Founder of Brothers of Aesir [BoA]
brothersofaesir.eu

Ah right, yeah, I guess a guild that big you’re always going to have a few bad apples.

I haven’t had the opportunity to talk personally with any of them yet, so I’m just basing on second hand accounts at the minute

@Parthis.2091 Are they really acting like that? That’s what I was really afraid of, RUIN coming in here and just start acting like pretentious jerks. I’m worried that it sounds like it’s already happening :/

Uder.9187:

IRON is a hardcore WvW guild and there are some other hardcore wvw guilds too and yes, i think they are elitists when it comes to WvW. So what´s your point? Don´t like playing with harcore WvW players? Transfer off, we want to win against the best of the best and that´s why we are happy to have RUIN on our server.

And about the DSC… i´m sorry, but they did nothing, it was a first step into nothing.

It was a good idea in theory, but it really didn’t pan out at all.

I know TRON is just a raging kitten and you should take his words with a huge grain of salt, but if there is anything behind his claim that RUIN are telling people to transfer off Deso so they can bring more RUIN guys over then that’s a kitten move and whoever’s spouting that stuff should kitten

As far as alienating other guilds goes, I’m in a small guild that WvW’s regularly and I don’t feel alienated. We do our bit to disrupt supplies and take camps and join in on the attack/defence when called for by the IRON guys.

Just the other day I was defending a camp solo, six/seven blacktide guys came in and eventually I succumbed to their numbers (I did take 2 out though, hooray. They immediately got ressed when I died though ) I called out in team chat for some backup and what do you know, with in a minute in charges Bloodsteel with like 5 other people, I get ressed and we chase the blacktide players down and wipe them out.

That’s not alienating. A small guild player calls for help and rather than just ignore me because I’m not part of their alliance, they rush in to help.

As far as I’m concerned that’s the opposite of alienating.

Akuma.7098:

Well, it would be good for deso if RUIN came a bit later, we would get our core and kitten together even more. Now we get lot of ppl who joins server just because it is winning. But it is not RUIN fault. I was on deso on beta and deso is the only server I ever was on in GW2. And I was slowly recognizing some good players and commanders. Now it seeems we have many ppl I have never seen before. Well, I blame A-net and their W3 system.

I don’t think we necessarily got a lot of people joining the server. I’m sure there’s a few but not the massive increase you think.

I think what you’re seeing is the effect of the fairweather wvwers we have on Desolation. Now we’re winning again they flock back to take the glory and make our server look a lot bigger than it is. Just you watch, when we go up in tiers and start losing again (I don’t think we’ll win in the higher tiers right away even with RUIN) these people will stop playing again and you’ll only see the familiar faces you were noticing before.

Also, Bloodsteel, you and a couple others rescued me from a 1v6 situation in the southern camp yesterday, I was dead on the floor :P Thanks for that (and anyone else who was there)

TRON.1085:

I feel sorry for AR and BT servers at the moment, free server transfers have broken WvW balance, right now deso ( my server ) are winning almost 100% of the map because RUIN instead of staying on there US servers are now clogging up EB and borderland maps.

Eu players on an Eu server cant even play WvW even in there own timezone and now can’t even play at night time.

If it wasn’t for free server tranfers deso would not be owning almost 100% of the map and RUIN guild would not even of come here clogging up our server WvW que times.

Please go back to you own server, your just stopping players on deso from getting to play WvW while your just getting no challenge or balanced fight in WvW anyway which is why you jumped servers to get an easy win in WvW….

Arena Net please do something about free server transfers it is breaking WvW.

RUIN aren’t the ones who started making us an effective night presence, that would be IRON and their dedication last week to pulling all nighters.

While RUIN have definitely helped it’s pretty much been a server wide agreement that we needed to be a bigger night force.

RUIN didn’t jump servers to get an easy win. If you actually listened to what they say, RUIN came here because they know tier’s 1 and 2 have huge nightcapping presence, they knew we had a good prime time presence and with them covering the night and us covering the day, they might still have keeps from the night before there when they come on.

RUIN came here to make us a dominant 24/7 presence against the other 24/7 servers, yeah it’s getting them an easy win this week, but it won’t do from tier 2 up..

It’s not ruin forcing the epic queues (well, some of it is), most of it is due to all the fairweather wvwers that Desolation has.

There’s one 500 person guild that I see in there in force when we’re winning and are never in there when we’re losing. They alone will change the queue times drastically.

According to the match maker, we jump you into tier 2 and you drop into tier three.

If it stays this way next week is Arborstone vs Desolation vs Riverside and Kodash vs Seafarers Rest vs Blacktide

I thought Xaoc were supposed to be their best guild or something? Why would they resort to that

I actually think a guildy ran with you again like yesterday in WvW, also had positive feedback, so double positive feedback for you!

Sib.1236:

Gunshow.3485:

Brunners.7251:

I’m conflicted. Part of me wants to be in the top two tiers so that at least we come against big forces even in the night, hopefully meaning more meaningful battles all through the day, the other part of me wants all these people who flock to wvw when we win to go away again.

“All these people”? If you’re referring to the migration of RUIN to your server, I think you need to do a little more research. RUIN come from, and was all but solely responsible for , a tier 1 server. We took a 2 week hit setback by moving to Desolation in the hopes that we can fill one another’s off hours.

So not trying to be a prick here, but you are mistaken if you think your success in tier 4 has attracted hangers-on.

I think what they mean by ‘all these people’ is the one that only come in for the glory when the points are in our favor but when the chips are down they are no where to be seen …. well that my interpretation of it any way

Yeah this is what I meant, I wasn’t having a go at you RUIN guys

There’s one guild in particular that were particularly noticeably absent during our losing weeks and now they seem to be back in force and walk around like they own the place in WvW. Really grates.

Yoke.4671:

Not sure Im happy about our new nightime/US influx on deso tbh. Sure noone likes getting spanked and we had some very hard few weeks with massive nightcapping aka french server or hacking cheating ones like SFR or kodash. But now we are just becoming a night capping server aswell if we have to rely on US guilds to get most our points at night time, becoming what we loathed and moaned about for a solid month.

That and now the fake aka sunny day pvpers are all out in droves, we have Qs again in the evenings and very active wvw, now dont get me wrong no Qs but noone in wvw wasnt a good thing, but at least it was usually good pvpers if you did find a fight or grp now its back to mindless zergs with pvers hunting silver and XP more then anything.
That and we all want balanced good fights this week, as the majority of us play from 6pm-12am every evening and if deso nightcap and blacktide do their russian ‘morning cap’ then by time its prime wvw time for most of us then its just gona be lame and the main scores and fights are never gona be around that time

I agree, I saw a certain commander last night being all “No worries guys, we got this!” while holding Titanpaw and I was like, “lol, where were you the last two weeks while we were getting spanked?”

Thing is, our server needed this if people genuinely want to be in the top servers. Unfortunately the higher you get the more important having a night force becomes. While our nightcapping might look crazy in this tier, in the top two it wouldn’t be out of place at all.

It is looking like this week is going to be a “late night vs early morning” cap fest.

I’m conflicted. Part of me wants to be in the top two tiers so that at least we come against big forces even in the night, hopefully meaning more meaningful battles all through the day, the other part of me wants all these people who flock to wvw when we win to go away again.

All I can hope is each server has enough people on at Deso prime time to at least be enjoyable, even if the points aren’t going to matter so much from that time period, all I want is to have fun.

RUIN, guys, come on. Blacktide have TWO whole camps.

TWO! :P

Deso at the minute have a potential points of +600.

We have over 2.5k points already

Deso got Blacktide and Augury Rock.

We’re owning the entire thing atm

Disaster, this upsets me They’re everywhere

That’s not a guild I’ve seen before. :S I’ll keep an eye out and report him if/when I see him!

The “no repair bill” bit is the big incentive for most people I know who do it (there’s two that I know of). They can’t be bothered spending a silver or two every now and again in wvw and we’re on a server with no queue, so they just log to character screen, back in immediately and pop, no repair bill.

If you’re against a server you’re really annoyed about I think the “denying them loot” is a bit more of an incentive, but it’s mostly the repair bill issue.

Spineless.6917:

Listen. It all comes down to there being ZERO balancing for WVW. You cant use the same skills in pve, spvp and expect them to work in WvW. We all know this. Its pvp game design 101. So instead of asking them to reduced dmg ect and I agree its INSANE right now I would ask them to “do something” because so far they have done “nothing” and thats only going to make Sony and Aventurine richer this holiday.

They’re not going to balance for WvW. They’ve already said that in multiple places AFAIK.

WvW is so big and open world it’ll never be balanced. Sometimes you’ll get hit for that much, sometimes you won’t. Just how it goes.

orlen.7810:

Brunners.7251:

shortcake.8659:

every warrior will assure you that kill shot is fine and you just need to avoid the obvious setup appearance that you should easily be able to pick out of 40 players.

If you’re stood still in a zerg of 40 players long enough to be hit by Kill Shot, you deserve to be hit by Kill Shot.

can’t see the enemy a lot of the time, at the moment my only way of even seeing someone before i get stomped is to tab…. a lot.

i play ele, with a fire earth build, not really very good gear as i’ve only been 80 for about 2 hours of game time.

i was just wondering if that was normal, it’s the first time i’ve taken damage of that size before and it just seems at odds with damage i’m capable of dishing out in one hit and my health pool as an ele as well.

given ele has generally lower health it just seemed like a rather large amount of damage for any class to dish out in one go, and with arena net saying trinity isn’t in the game i kinda feel like they have forgotten to check their numbers on a few things.

and if i could have healed it i would have..pretty much wiped me out.

Yep. It’s perfectly normal. Thieves and warriors are the best at dealing damage of that size all in one go. Thing is they have to be specced entirely glass cannon, meaning they’ll go down in seconds if you can find them/get near them.

I wear Knights gear and have 20 trait points into toughness so I’m not even full glass cannon and I can crit for nearly that much with a crit shot. My volley (rifle skill 3) if it works perfectly and crits the majority of the time can reach 7k alone.

I do go down very easily, especially since I get focused down a lot.

If you’re constantly moving though it’ll be very difficult for me to hit you with KS. It has a 2 second cast time, by the time I’ve got the skill off you should be out of range or have moved somewhere I can’t hit you.

If I see a guy standing in one spot attacking (or not attacking, as I’ve seen sometimes) I’m firing KS at him, because he deserves it.

Stay moving and you won’t get hit with it.

Thieves on the other hand, well, if they want to they can kitten you right up no matter what you do.

Demitsuru.9361:

Ajaxx.3157:

its a baby cat

they are nice in pies!

“Bunch of Kodash and Seafarer’s Rest get even more kitten”
i mean slang… i dont understand this sentence.
means become softer? or kawaii kitties pies!? Desolating kawaii kitties pies.

The forum changes any swear word into the word kitten

Raap.9065:

Brunners.7251:

Raap.9065:

Brunners.7251:

Oh YOU’RE thorny scrub :P I see you complaining in team chat a lot, haha :P

And yeah, the hackers have made everyone paranoid. Now anyone who mesmers in is suddenly a hacker.

My problem is I basically write my thoughts in chat without thinking if I should write it or not. I have the same on voice coms. The good part is that I’m very direct aswell, and people either like me or hate me for it.

Often I simply write what most others think, but don’t mention.

Yeah, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you write something I don’t agree with :P You can come across as a bit of a negative nancy at times though ;D

Heh, it can be seen that way. Anyway let’s stop the friendly talk before more of our posts get deleted for it! Send you a PM!

I’d like to say thanks for the fights this week, hacking, hacking accusations, and complaining about nightcapping aside. Desolation managed to salvage a comeback out of this week and I’ll be interested to see where we end up next match.

I’d also like to say welcome to maximumpanda and RUIN. I hope this weeks performance showed you Desolation does not back down even after a very rough period. We managed to fight our way back and, to be honest, if this was a 2 week matchup, we’d be fighting for first place with SFR, after comming from a 3rd place.

I hope you and the other guilds can work as a team better, and start a dialog between alliances. Communication is key, and a friendly environment even more so.

If the matchup calculator is correct next week we shall be against Blacktide and Augury Rock. We’ll change colour, Blacktide will be green, AR blue and us red.

snograt.1745:

Brunners.7251

Yes.
Yes it is. You can never to be too careful. is he mapping? Or is he scouting? My group of 4-10 always goes after solitary characters on the assumptions they’re scouts.

Bah, I’d never considered scouting. I withdraw my snarky comments, in that case

Hmm, wonder if I can get that orb abuser to teach me teleportation…

I’M KIDDING!

There are always things to look out for. Classes especially. If there’s a solo thief for example then we won’t risk leaving him alone because they’re the most effective scout class that I’ve seen. If there’s a solo warrior or something then there is more of a chance they’re an unfortunate fellow caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Still, better safe than sorry

Raap.9065:

Brunners.7251:

Oh YOU’RE thorny scrub :P I see you complaining in team chat a lot, haha :P

And yeah, the hackers have made everyone paranoid. Now anyone who mesmers in is suddenly a hacker.

My problem is I basically write my thoughts in chat without thinking if I should write it or not. I have the same on voice coms. The good part is that I’m very direct aswell, and people either like me or hate me for it.

Often I simply write what most others think, but don’t mention.

Yeah, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you write something I don’t agree with :P You can come across as a bit of a negative nancy at times though ;D

Dear Thedes.

I would just like to make you aware of my guild: Brothers of Aesir [BoA].

We are a smallish guild of about 25/26 members, 10/12 of which will use VOIP (although normally it’s 7/8 at any one time).

We are active in all forms of the game, but are primarily working atm as a PvE and WvW guild. We run with one or two small teams in WvW (depending on how many of us there are) and generally take supply camps, hassle enemy supply lines and just be a bit of a nuisance.

In PvE we run a dungeon a night pretty much, we do CoF regularly because a guildy wants the armour set and we just did HOTW story last night so we could start running that in expl mode too. We will get around to all the dungeons at some point soon.

In general PvE we’re always around to help, whether you want help with a story mission or clearing a zone, I’m sure one or two of our guys will be around to help.

We’re an 18+ guild that pretty much requires the use of TS3 to be able to communicate with us, a number of us play till the early hours of the morning (depends on the day though, a number of the guildies have children and full time jobs, so obviously can’t play super hardcore. They’re almost all on nightly though).

We’re very much quality over quantity, so while we don’t have tons of members, the ones we do have are all quality guys. We’re part of a small WvW alliance and are looking to set up a full alliance TS3 with different channels for different guilds, meaning we can organise our server a bit more efficiently.

We play on Desolation, and hope to hear from you in the near future!

We ran with you guys for a while in WvW last night. You were a good bunch of guys!

snograt.1745:

Welcome, maximumpanda – hopefully this means I might finally get those last few PoIs I need for 100% after a very frustrating week of failure

On a related note, aimed at WvWvWers in general – when you see a single, solitary character trotting across the map doing skill challenges and vistas, is it really necessary to obliterate them? Are obvious mappers really a threat to your server’s dominance? Does it really need a group of 10 of you all whaling on a solitary character that offers no resistance?

Sorry, frustration showing a bit there.

Yes.

Yes it is. You can never to be too careful. is he mapping? Or is he scouting? My group of 4-10 always goes after solitary characters on the assumptions they’re scouts.

@maximumpanda: Welcome, I guesss. I’m not going to lie, I’ve heard of your guild doing some pretty kitteny stuff over on that other server.

I suppose having a nightshift won’t be a bad thing though, and if you’re genuinely honest about it being a few bad apples I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and welcome you to our family over here on Desolation.

shortcake.8659:

every warrior will assure you that kill shot is fine and you just need to avoid the obvious setup appearance that you should easily be able to pick out of 40 players.

If you’re stood still in a zerg of 40 players long enough to be hit by Kill Shot, you deserve to be hit by Kill Shot.

We got RUIN. This is a horrible horrible development.

Sinning.7483:

-1

Terrible post….forget trying to justify it and trying to speak on the issue as if you work for ArenaNet.

Having invisible enemies is terrible for running less than a large group…I never sure whether I’m about to engage 2 or 5 people and that really matters (life and death).

I’m glad you are getting better frame rate but the methodolgy employed here is TERRIBLE…I’d fire the person who let it get implemented on the live system.

I run with a small team of 3-8 people.

We have never ever experienced bad culling until last night when we decided to join the zerg for a bit. Everyone became invisible, we went back to our small party stuff, hey presto, we could see everyone again.

If those 2-5 people are running in front of a zerg (which, in my experience, is the only time people disappear), chances are you’d die either way.

Turf.3164:

Here you go Desolation, your very own teleportation hacker

http://postimage.org/image/tlfxh21r1/
http://postimage.org/image/8cut2ef6z/
http://postimage.org/image/6wnvy01nv/

Oh wow, ok. If I see him in game I’ll be sure to report

For the numbers we often have available to us, I’m proud of how we’ve done. You guys outnumbered us by a ton over the weekend, which is when your biggest point differences were.

tarnin.1690:

Brunners.7251:

tarnin.1690:

Stiv.1820:

Swiftly.2385:

Stiv, Some great ideas here. But I am betting it won’t happen. Wv3 feels like an ANet afterthought. Really to bad too, because for myself and scores of others it is THE GW2 endgame.

It’s endgame for me as well. I’ve read around that Anet was surprised at how popular it is. It that’s true, maybe it will get some focus in the future.

Sadly I think that will come too late and many of us will be off to other games.

Well it’s not like you’re paying monthly so if you leave, it doesn’t really matter…you can always just..you know…come back when they’ve fixed it to your standard?

The issue there is that they will look at the much smaller numbers and will just decide to NOT do anything as it won’t be worth it. It’s a vicious circle. This game makes money on in game sales (need people playing for that) and expansions (need people playing for that too).

You’re being such a negative nancy. In fact, every time I see you’ve posted something it’s always kittening negative.

Cheer up. The games been out a month. Is it annoying this isn’t fixed yet? Sure. Is it going to get fixed? Yep, it is. Patience is a virtue and while I understand WvW is really annoying to play right now (only if you follow the zerg, in my experience) it’s not going to be that way for ages and you should just go play something else if you’re really that frustrated with it.

Judging by the things I’ve seen you say you must REALLY hate GW2. So, why are you still here?

Yeah, it’s not cool it’s broken. Yeah it’ll get fixed. Just shh and let them do their job. What, do you just think they’re all sat twiddling their thumbs about this?

Plus, I think you’re wrong. I think if they do something and they fix it even if there isn’t many people playing at that time (I doubt it’ll ever get THAT bad), word of mouth will spread and do you know what will happen? “Hey, I’ve totally still got that game, let’s just log on and see if it’s fixed. Oh it totally is, awesome let’s play!”

pcpsong.3850:

Why don’t you just roll back to when…you know…it was working?

Because they don’t have the ability to rollback?

Because there’s a whole patch worths of stuff that’s changed since this problem turned up, they’d have to roll back to a pre-patch version which might break even more stuff?

tarnin.1690:

Stiv.1820:

Swiftly.2385:

Stiv, Some great ideas here. But I am betting it won’t happen. Wv3 feels like an ANet afterthought. Really to bad too, because for myself and scores of others it is THE GW2 endgame.

It’s endgame for me as well. I’ve read around that Anet was surprised at how popular it is. It that’s true, maybe it will get some focus in the future.

Sadly I think that will come too late and many of us will be off to other games.

Well it’s not like you’re paying monthly so if you leave, it doesn’t really matter…you can always just..you know…come back when they’ve fixed it to your standard?

Quintosh.9613:

@Brunners.7251 You have actually, and as far as I know, from these 3 servers yours is the one with some video footage, a member/leader/something from IRON actually posted it to this same topic. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Kodash-Seafarers-rest-Desolation-pvp/page/3#post387700

Ah yes. I always forget about him. You’re right then, we do indeed have at least one. I’m just hoping he wasn’t that annoying

Haelindiel.2481:

Short summary of WvW for this match up:

1) There were some orb hacking in the beginning from various sides. People get kitten Seafarer’s Rest holds the lead since they are usually very organised during primetime, and weekend is a 2.5 days primetime.

2) Anet then release the new patch. Everyone get perma invisibility. Bunch of Kodash and Seafarer’s Rest get even more kitten Some guild stopped WvW till they fix it, which I understand since getting zerged by people you cant see when you’re a 5-10 group taking supply and towers can get frustrating.

3) Desolation decide to stop feeling sorry for themselves and get organising. They start doing organised WvW but still can’t hold a candle to Kodash or Seafarer’s during Prime time. Refusing to give up, they decided to set alarm clocks and start night capping after 3am.

4) Night capping pays off, desolation gain massive points and start catching up to Kodash. Invisibility issues still persist, and more Kodash and Seafarer’s guild stop WvWing.

5) Desolation gain a morale boost seeing themselves hold their own against Seafarer’s and Kodash. Even though they start losing their night capping gains in the afternoon, points are about equal even during prime time and they gain self belief, unaware that for the most part, they aren’t fighting the regular Kodash and Seafarer’s troops.

6) Desolation overtake Kodash. Kodash pugs and randoms morale continue to drop after seeing themselves moved to third. Seafarer’s Rest gets more agitated seeing Desolation becoming more aggressive, having mostly focussed on Kodash to pay them back for their Elona/Kodash gangbang two weeks ago.

7) Current state of the game.

Numbers 1 and 3 aren’t quite true.

First off, the orb hackings AFAIK were solely one guy first for SFR and then for Kodash. I don’t think Deso has hacked an orb yet, have we? I’m sure we’ve had other hackers doing stuff, but I don’t remember hearing about us hacking an orb.

And three just seems a bit unfair. We always held our own, even if we were last in the potential points. Especially when you consider we almost certainly had the outmanned buff the entire time, I think we did pretty good.

And again, as for the night capping thing. It’s always annoying and I readily admit it’s a cheesy tactic, but it’s currently legal and viable so there we go.

Quintosh.9613:

Brunners.7251:

The first few days you did beat us in prime time (hence the massive disparity in points in the first couple of screenies) for the last few days however, from what I’ve seen points have been changing hands pretty rapidly during prime time.

I kinda want to say my opinion about this sentence. At the moment it’s pretty useless to try to argue about who scored what and when, I dont know what the situation on Desolation or Kodash is now, but we in SFR dont really have all that many WvW players active now because of the invisibility bug, these past few days we havent had almost any queue, yesterday, primetime, queue to eternal battlegrounds was about… 10 minutes? Usually it’s like 1-3 hours.

And yeah, our server is medium pop but we sometimes get insane queue-times. Like someone mentioned earlier, your server (Desolation) has had zerg mentality for some time now so I’m not sure if they even notice the invisibility, just that there are less opponents now and they can capture easy points, but in our server with more organized groups and guilds there’s been a lot of talk about taking a break till they fix this bug or whatever you want to call it.

I do give kudos to Desolation though, for getting your groups up and running and providing some “challenge” against our outmanned borderlands and eternal battlegrounds. I really do hope that we will meet again after WvW is fixed to be more enjoyable and our server actually starts playing again. I can only guess but I’m pretty sure every other server is having similar issues with the core-players taking a break. I think thats enough yadayada for now. Well almost, I do have to say that after the weekend you only started to gain more points mostly during the night when you hogged everything on every map, I even saw you go up to +500 points at times, but that situation quite fast turned around during the daytime when our players started logging in.

I do agree that we took advantage of the night times recently. But clearly war is ruthless and Anet has decided it’s a viable way to win. So if you can’t beat them, join them, I suppose!

As far as it goes with the invisible player thing: It seems like Desolation has worked entirely the opposite to you. It feels like all we have left are the core guilds :P

Our zerg mentality is decreasing, finally, because people are transferring off to other servers. We still have them and they’re still usually an uncoordinated mess, but we’re a lot more effective away from those zergs then we ever have been in the past.

pedrst.3127:

My original post was that Desolation got its massive inc of points lately due nightcapping.
I did not say you guys didn’t do well on prime-time, which you are doing better, then on the beggining of the week for sure. But the alarm-clockers (or the guys who play at night… i don’t know) on Desolation are really receiving a massive amount of points really. If you consider my post as a “flaming post” or “troll bait” which i admit partially.. its essentially to the score system that its incredible stupid not reflecting mainly the actual PvP. So basically the 20-30 people online at 5am gets 10x more points then your whole 500 people at prime-time… not because they’re better, just because there’s pretty much no opposition.

Being honest with you, i hardly see SF force at night.. and i know because i’m from, i’m at GMT-5 (soon to change to -3 though) so i know very well how feels playing night time at SR (a desert basically). If we had alot of points in the morning it mostly was due holding (or simple not being attacked) during the night.

Now i’ve nothing against Desolation. You guys seem a good fight and know what you’re doing.. definitelly better then Kodash for sure – except the Elements people at Kodash who i know are decent/good guys. But Kodash certainlly deserved to get their kitten kicked by us this match – hence most of SR’s focus into them – because last time we faced them they were all the freaking time doubling on us with Elona’s. And i’m afraid same thing will happen again if we get Riverside and Elona’s (2 german servers).

I think you’ve got to give our night-force credit. These aren’t guys who’ve transferred in from another time zone to play PvD. These are European time zoned people who are staying up late in order to try and maximise an advantage. Even if you think the tactic is a little cheesy, surely their dedication to their server has to deserve some respect.

And yes, it probably will feel like they’re doubling on you. We had a similar experience when we had Arborstone and Augury Rock, two french servers. It was horrible all week because it felt like they were helping each other. They denied it right to the end, but I’m not convinced.

Allen.1620:

well idk at night cap maybe we do u do, have lots of respect towards deso, but the fact is we hit kodash cas of that guy n orb thingy, else u guys wud have come last this time, we intentionally sit at kodash spawn point or border, and its true, personally i want to hit deso cas they fight better, abt night cap we maybe both do, head on fights u guys will be mostly owned, lack of people maybe.

nothing against kodash its a guy runing fun 4 others, we look frd to better time in wvw against u, actually nothing against deso also, maybe u guys fighting with less people, u guys r skilled, repair cost get u when les poeple,
But next time we hope our server will listen to us and hit u guys not kodash, then we will see how it comes, till then we will never know,

We definitely don’t have numbers anymore :P I think we’ve made ourselves proud with how we’ve done this week, even if it’s true that you are purposely only targeting Kodash.

We quite regularly have the outmanned buff nowadays, sadly. Still, we fight on. I’m proud of this weeks achievements and it’s the best battle I’ve had in wvw in a while.

I tend to find Kodash a little easier to handle than SFR too. I’ve had some trouble in 1v1’s with SFR (read: I give them badges nearly every time) where as I can handle myself against a Kodash solo.

rhodoc.2381:

Getting 30 must be a bug. There is no math for getting 30. You can get either 60 or 20.
And running another path reset other paths. So you should get again 60.

Running another path doesn’t reset the others.

If you’ve got 60 on a path that day you won’t get 60 again until server reset. Doing Path 1 then Path 2 then Path 1 again won’t get you 60 for that second go at path 1.