Guild Wars 2

Amadan.9451:

Smitty.9432:

I am on one of the servers that farms this event (or attempts to) and in the guild that is usually responsible for starting it. I realize that for a lot of people it seems unfair that we ask them not to kill the giant, which in turn delays the opening of the Arah dungeon, but you need to take a minute to look at it from our perspective as well.

We’re a huge PvE guild that focuses on group activities. We were a large part of the other significant farm locations (Union, etc). Time and time again we’ve seen every viable farm location nerfed into the ground, leaving only CoF and CoE as steady sources of gold farming. And really, who wants to run one of those dungeons for the thousandth time?

So what do we do? We look for events such as this one that have high amounts of mobs to kill which drop good loot (bags, t6, rares, etc). When we find one we get our entire guild together, run the event through its pre-event chain, and start farming.

Unfortunately this event shows up on the gw2stuff world boss list for the High Wizard. So what happens is our guild puts a good hour into the pre events to start the farming, then as soon as it appears on the site tons of randoms show up to get their daily loot chest. They start auto attacking the giant and we kindly ask them to stop and farm with us for awhile or simply hop to another server if they’re looking to do Arah. But no, they instead tell us to kitten off and continue killing the giant.

So it goes both ways. We realize that this event more than likely isn’t meant to be farmed and that people want to complete it. But at the same time we’re the ones putting all the work into setting it up for us and others who want to farm. The giant will die in time from the NPCs attacking it, stray AOEs, and so on. Just give us our hour or two of farming before that happens

even if your guild start the event you don’t have any rights to stop people that want to complete it, and even worse let them die and shout names at them if they do,
you know what? if i were one of the people you let die in order to keep farming i would call up my entire alliance just to shut you down.
i’m not against farm, you can kill mobs around not exploiting events in order to do so, because this have only one consequence, the loot on this event will be stopped for everyone and only because of you that don’t have any measure of common sense.
if you weren’t all that greedy we could do so many events chains with so much loot in all the maps, but we can’t because you never have enough and you are to lazy to change run from one event to another, you just want the endless one.
this ruin the game fro every single player and this game has no more loot because of this.
you brought it on yourself!!

they should ban all of you and put the game loot as it was for the people that actually enjoy the events and don’t fail them on purpose!!

Did…. did you even read that?

NSP 25k points above FC and 10k above HoD.. its completely boring. Sticking to PvE for this week.

jmatb.6307:

Celebratty.1632:

jmatb.6307:

Did you read anything I just said lol

My bad, I typed that before you posted.
But a passive % chance for something like the ele burning is exactly what spirit ranger has that you complain about “passive play”, except its traited and uses skillslots (that albeit have a second skill that is very good, but it requires proper positioning and has a very long cooldown and windup)

If I made a list of passive play mechanics across all professions it would probably fill up an entire page.

This brings up the question of whether or not we really need 60 traits to choose from if they are all balanced around giving passive boosts. If we had a lower trait pool and more dynamic options then I think PvP would be easier to balance and promote better players.

Unfortunately, the majority of this game is based around traits. Its far too late to change them, as every single build is based around or has traits that make it viable.

jmatb.6307:

Did you read anything I just said lol

My bad, I typed that before you posted.
But a passive % chance for something like the ele burning is exactly what spirit ranger has that you complain about “passive play”, except its traited and uses skillslots (that albeit have a second skill that is very good, but it requires proper positioning and has a very long cooldown and windup)

Lol this is still going on?
How about you stay on topic of how passive play is bad, instead of complaining about spirit rangers.
Eles and guardians are also offenders of this too.

I think I get what you’re saying now.
Although I suppose this is a problem, I think certain people are blowing this way out of proportion. Banned for not doing an event? Its just as bad as botting? Hardly so. And I assure you its not out of laziness, because when you can get ~1 charged core every 2 or so hours by running in a circle of grinding mobs, it is much more efficient to farm large hordes of risen and simply buy them. Its not an issue of lazy players, its an issue of very poor loot tables and the domination of CoE/CoF.

Zedd.8239:

Celebratty.1632:

What difference is there to the people wanting to do the story? If they weren’t here farming, they were going to be somewhere else, not doing this event.

They’re talking about people that want to get into Arah to complete their personal story.

Yeah, I know that. But its not like farmers are hindering their progress anymore than they would simply not being there..

machine.2859:

wow it’s amazing the replys really..

How hard is it to see that when you have 50+ people doing a meta event it should not take more than 10 mins to do and move on. Thats haow it was intended to be played. But no, most of those players are just making the event drag out as much as possible so they don’t have to go all over the world to get the stuff they want.

That called a Lazy player: one who doesn’t want to play as intended but find the easiest way possible to get loot even if it means halting the gameplay of others.

You need alot of people to complete this and for 10 people to want to get past it and go on with their story can’t..

There is one alternative, guest on another server and hope for the best but if your in a guild you don’t get the buffs or influence so there are drawbacks.

But again there should be not point in guesting if theres enough players theres and doing the event, just do it and go find another event to beat.

There are TONS of events all over there world no need to drag a single one on and on cause your too lazy to move to another one!

What difference is there to the people wanting to do the story? If they weren’t here farming, they were going to be somewhere else, not doing this event.

I honestly don’t see why everyone is screaming of why farmers are terrible for doing this. It is impossible for the farmers to stop the event from continuing, so if you want to finish it, hey! You have people helping clear the mobs for you while you do the giant. Them farming the mobs while you all do the giant is better than them being somewhere else. Cursing other players in unacceptable of course, but I IHGHLY doubt all of the farmers are screaming profanities while all of the people who want to kill the giant are being saints.

I call this one ‘Anet why’

Remove player culling, use particle culling. I can see 100 players on my screen with no problem to my fps, but if we have 5 eles I just get a series of screenshots.

Only time I ever see people in PvE besides sitting at MF and bank in LA is at reset, when everyone zergs together and kills all the temples and karka queen then promptly leaves again.

We’re a class in a movement-dependent game that relies on dodging that has no movement.
Spirits don’t move unless traited, pets don’t dodge and ‘return to me’ is bloody AWFUL because they’ll just stop in front of you and you actually have to stop dpsing to run backwards to get them farther away. Pets can’t even dodge, and one of our highest DPS weapons literally makes it impossible to dodge or move while attacking.
The fact that we can still do well is just a testament of how strong rangers could be if properly designed.

Farming =/= exploit.

If you want the dungeon open, just do it. Or you could be courteous and guest and leave them, but it doesn’t matter either way. They can’t stop you and there is no reason to try and stop them.

Durzlla.6295:

Celebratty.1632:

Panda bear, actual jaguar, hound of Balthazar, and phoenixes would be cool to have.
Mainly panda.

We have an actual Jaguar… you’re either thinking of a Leopard or a Panther…

EDIT: Herpa kitten , you’d think being a bio major i’d realize the black Jaguars are a mutation xD. I’d like to see a skin that’d allow us an actual Jaguar (make it so it’s the same pet you just change whether he’s black or goldish)

I know your secret now, hehe.

Panda bear, actual jaguar, hound of Balthazar, and phoenixes would be cool to have.
Mainly panda.

Thieves are a weird bunch.
They call nerf on anything and everything, yet when someone suggests a reasonable nerf (like getting a revealed debuff when BS is blocked) they immediately cry that people hate thieves and we all need to l2p.

Yep. Sigh… apparently making clutch plays every step you go is the only way to win without being mindlessly easy. I’ve abandoned that thread and not going back to that idiot.

I just can’t.. I can’t do this.

l2p. That’s all I can say to someone this delusional.

Yes, the sun spirit provides the burns. Watch out if he has the Stone Spirit, it can immobilize you. It has an animation though so you should be able to dodge it.

He seriously says that using quicksand when they get near us and back off, blind before they’re about to hit us with something that’s going to do a lot of damage, and using wolf fear to keep people from attacking the spirits is ‘so boring and mindlessly easy compared to using CC, skill rotations and positioning’.

Okay guys, its just someone who got roflstomped because they stood in the aoes as a d/p thief and got mad.

jmatb.6307:

You get a free cooldown when they die and you can use them while they live. You effectively get a great passive bonus, and two equally great active bonus for just casting a single utility x3.

It’s not hard to figure out when to use it. You use Quicksand and the chill when they get close and move away from them if you’re ranged. You blind them if you know they’re about to use something that hurts. If they’re attacking your nature renewal spirit you use your wolf to fear them, switch to another fear pet and do it again.

It is so mindless and easy compared to positioning, rotation understanding, use of CC, etc.

What in the motherkitten kind of rocket science are you doing for positioning and cc when that isn’t considered it?

jmatb.6307:

Celebratty.1632:

jmatb.6307:

Notice how you respond to a thief by actually doing something. You have to think and react. Quickly.

If you don’t that guy is going to tear your guts out and probably laugh at you.

I don’t care if people who don’t think believe Thieves are OP they are just easy targets and will never be a challenge in tPvP. That’s what hotjoins are for.

But back to the working for the same results, moving in and out of stealth to kill spirits while the AFK ranger spams burn fields and dances in circles, with no stun breaks, and then targeting the guy takes a lot longer than it should. A S/D thief can punk him, sure. They can steal every protection proc away from the guy and dodge their attacks that would stack burns if they didn’t.

But that’s the battle of cheesers and I hate playing that way. Evade spamming vs. AFK evade spamming passive spirit carry. Is that what this game is supposed to be about?

I don’t think you know what that word means…
And this game is entirely about evasion, whether you like this or not. If you don’t like it, this really is the wrong game for you to be playing.
You’re painting this like its so hard to fight a spirit ranger while they just sit there and get free glory. You have to kill him while gasp dodging out of his aoes, stealing his boons or dancing around killing his spirits? I seriously can’t tell what you’re complaining about here, the fact that you have to fight him a certain way because he’ll stomp you if you ignore his spirits, protection and aoes?

It. Requires. No. Skill

Pretty sure you’re trolling at this point.
“Wah I can’t kill him when I stand in his aoes and ignore his spirits! It clearly requires no skill!”

It requires a large amount of maintenance. You lose all your utilities but heal for the spirits, and you have to spec into them specifically. You have to micro your spirit skills, because they have very high cooldowns and you don’t want to waste an immobilize/burst/chill/etc. Also keeping them out of aoes and using them to absorb BS isn’t easy.

jmatb.6307:

Notice how you respond to a thief by actually doing something. You have to think and react. Quickly.

If you don’t that guy is going to tear your guts out and probably laugh at you.

I don’t care if people who don’t think believe Thieves are OP they are just easy targets and will never be a challenge in tPvP. That’s what hotjoins are for.

But back to the working for the same results, moving in and out of stealth to kill spirits while the AFK ranger spams burn fields and dances in circles, with no stun breaks, and then targeting the guy takes a lot longer than it should. A S/D thief can punk him, sure. They can steal every protection proc away from the guy and dodge their attacks that would stack burns if they didn’t.

But that’s the battle of cheesers and I hate playing that way. Evade spamming vs. AFK evade spamming passive spirit carry. Is that what this game is supposed to be about?

I don’t think you know what that word means…
And this game is entirely about evasion, whether you like this or not. If you don’t like it, this really is the wrong game for you to be playing.
You’re painting this like its so hard to fight a spirit ranger while they just sit there and get free glory. You have to kill him while gasp dodging out of his aoes, stealing his boons or dancing around killing his spirits? I seriously can’t tell what you’re complaining about here, the fact that you have to fight him a certain way because he’ll stomp you if you ignore his spirits, protection and aoes?

Rayean.8726:

My favorite part was his comment about Eles and thieves having to put in work to be better than an AFK ranger.

But then why do I get kicked when I Akitten the corner of a dungeon?

jmatb.6307:

Okay all you people that think you know thief and QQ that stealth is OP listen up.

Physics exist in this game. If someone black powders and stealths they did not just teleport across the map. They did not just get a distortion effect like Mesmers do. They simply took a step toward where they did heartseeker.

If you know that, then you know that attacking that area will do damage to them. Also, stealth sets up backstab and other types of attacks, so are you really going to stand still and give a thief exactly what they want, an immobile target ready to get crushed?

You’re better off running around in circles and typing out /say “TROLOL”. If you people really knew what you were doing you would already know how to kite and troll a thief using stealth.

Now if they take the 50% movement speed in stealth trait it won’t matter what you do because they get a speed boost from being in stealth, but they have to give up damage to do that so a lot of thieves pass on it. They can take signet of shadows, but again they’re passing up Assassin’s signet to get the crazy damage.

You counter stealth by thinking like they do. Where do they want to go? You AoE Shadow Refuge, Whirling Blade on Guardian, 100B on Warrior, Arcing Shot, using GS 5 on mesmers knocks them out of it and puts them in reveal, launching, knockbacks…

Its not that hard. If you played thief for more than a couple matches you’d know that.

So this went from a ‘SOMETHING I CANT KILL IS OP’ thread to a ‘Thieves are balanced and easily countered!’ thread?

“I think this mechanic should be added into the game because it makes sense for this to happen and there is no legitimate reason not too.”

These people:
Wow hate on thief more, kick us while we’re down don’t you? All you guys are bad and should learn to play instead of blaming us.

Are these people:
Oh my god I can’t believe ANet made spirit ranger so overpowered this is so dumb passive effects are for people who can’t play the game get rid of this stupid mechanic!

Saying people are bad or that ‘you can counter it’ is fun to say and all, but its hard to take people seriously when they alternate between saying we’re bad and X is so op.

Mixing around T1-T3 armor counts I guess?
T3 coat with T2 legs/boots
T2 boots with T1 legs/coat/helm

Yes I agree, we should remove all passives from the game.
Like passive initiative regen, and all traits~!

Female 5
I guess a lot of people want their sylvari to look childish, but I think it looks creepy.

I like to run Sylvan hound when doing dungeons when I’m going zerk ranger, but really it depends on if you Pve or WvW. Sylvan hound is a buddy who’ll heal you and can tank a few shots but won’t be very effective in WvW because of the channel time and the fact that people can just kite it easily. Take Root is good for the 3s invuln when you’re fighting a large group of mobs and will help you take them down faster, but once again, will be virtually useless in WvW because of AoEs, ricochets or being focused down.

sigh…
People will complain and then it’ll get nerfed and rangers will suck more until they eventually find another gimmicky niche build that works against poor players.
Whats next? “Ranger range too long can hit me from far and I run straight line but no less damage” and LB trait gets nerfed?

The T3 medium coat clips with every kittening weapon ever made in the history of ever.

>that feel when Sylvari Ranger woman
>that feel when wearing human armor but don’t look good or attractive like humans
>that feel when sit on chairs like a kitten
>that feel when only friend is a jaguar
>that feel when jaguar is just a jungle stalker
>that feel when only friend is emo lesbian who runs away all the time and cries about her gf

1. Which legendary are you going for?
Juggernaut
2. Do you have any gifts? If so, which one?
Fortune, battle and ~200 of every T6 mat
3. Which gift are you working on? And how far have you come on it?
…exploration..
I have half the stuff I need and am hovering at 40% world completion, its a bit embarrassing.
4. Addition information you want us to know, maybe a picture.
I’ve blown hundreds of rares in the MF and I got a precursor!!…
Venom.

So yea I hate my life a bit

I’m just confused of why the more we win, the lower tier we fight.
“You beat HoD 3 weeks in a row? Meet your new competitors… HoD!”
“You beat IoJ (19), well try DR (20!)”
“DR too easy? Try FC! (23)”

‘Heightened Senses’
Reveals all enemies in an * radius on your minimap and reveals units in stealth to you and only you.

Improved traits that work, because that one stack of bleed on crit with a 60s cooldown doesn’t cut it.

The Spiral King.2483:

and the fact that it occasionally shoots out copies of kudzu instead of arrows for some reason.

This shouldn’t be a bug, it should be a feature

I’ve gotten one exotic since release from drops, and that was an exotic staff worth ~1g. I don’t get things lower than my level, I just get trash vendor items.

They need to fix the Asura kite because it clips into the ground and generally looks unappealing. If it would trail behind you a little bit higher instead of directly on your back that might work.

I hope you can stack kites so you can have 3+ kites on you at once

inazuma.7021:

Evon does not look trustworthy. There’s a lesson to be learned about voting for a candidate with fangs and horns.

Don’t be racist.

I swear to god if they make Hunger Royale temporary I’m going to go and cry and fall into a deep depression because that was absolutely amazing to play.

I love this game, but I wish we got more MMO content. Festivals, scavenger hunts and temporary rewards are fine in moderation, but I’d love something for hardcore MMO-ers that people could work for.
Legendaries can be bought if you’re rich enough or pay enough money in real life, temporary content isn’t so hard as to where people only get the rewards after working for it, dungeons are predictable and the only hard dungeons aren’t worth the effort (still fun regardless) and the only open world content done with a group is farming world bosses and temple zerging.
Raids, account-bound weapons that cannot be bought but must be earned, PvE mobs that aren’t blind and an improved guild system would much be preferred to me than pretty shinies that everyone is going to have at the end of the event and events not based around combat.

Allowing people that are having trouble to get an achievement via kindness and cooperation?
Not an exploit.
Thief being able to spec to have twice as many sun strikes?
Exploit.

Stop complaining that a good community works together and help out people who aren’t as good at something that they are.

I don’t think they open.. I just got the achievement in the Lab and no reward.

150 fortune scraps for a backpiece

Assuming you get 2~ scraps per fortune every single time, that’s 20-30 bucks at the luckiest.
Apparently you can get them from mobs and kite buckets but I’ve emptied the kite buckets in 2 zones and spent 30m farming mobs and gotten nothing..

Sooo…

Anyone know when the patch will be live?

Definitely not overkill, you only have 2 stacks of candy corn.

kNite.6504:

Not every armor and weapon the game is meant for every class and every player. I am sure in the future there will be armor more suited to rogues and your liking.

Thing is, this is supposed to be a player-wide reward. However, if you don’t use gold weps, silvery/blue or black/red, the rewards are pretty much useless.

The fact that they both look like heavy sets is also irritating, but hey I’m probably sticking to the gold weps.