Guild Wars 2

gabal.4520:

Centrix.4065:

Rookni.2469:

Seeing the numbers the russian zerg have sometimes you wont ever have a problem with being outmanned

Lmao. I’ll just take it as a compliment, you saying we have a large zerg

How would you call that group that comprised of NuG, SPRT and dozen others who conquered Garrison on Gandara BL yesterday with 2 omega golems? We can call it blob if you prefer it that way…

Those were 2 different raids that came together. We go our seperate ways and you only saw us together sometimes, like at Garrison. Sometimes the smaller groups come together too, it’s normal. We only zerg sometimes and you zerg most of the time. So don’t complain please, you don’t see me complain about it.

Rookni.2469:

Seeing the numbers the russian zerg have sometimes you wont ever have a problem with being outmanned

Lmao. I’ll just take it as a compliment, you saying we have a large zerg

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Part of me felt bad for using such numbers sometimes but meh it happens. I did try to lower them by having camp squads, tower scouts, small groups defending/doing other stuff.

No worries, the russian mentality is not to give up and never run away from a fight, unless it would cost the loss of a keep or something :P No matter how outmanned, victory or death! (victory prefered)

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Uhh it was between Briar —> Bay You caught about 1/3rd of my group fighting AR and slaughtered them then we had a rather extended fight with the rest.

Probably after 8pm as I kept checking supply levels in the group (for obvious reasons :P) and I never got over 35 when I checked (excluding Hills). I realise that you have to be right on top but we had everyone on TS so 99.9% of who was about was on top. Cliffside we probably had a bit more. When I first joined the map we had a hole in our Garrison so not really anywhere else people would have been.

But for Briar + Bay I would definitely say we had closer to 30 than 35. Although there was another commander in Bay 90% of the time but by the time my group arrived you had already cleared house and got on the wall. Then again I suppose anyone else on the TS may have sneaked in the group before the fights. But I liked fighting you guys, you hit like a train and even with our numbers, we have to be careful or you’d wipe us :P

Yeah there were moments where you had less and other times when you seemed to have more. I remember some fights between Briar and Bay. We got wiped a few times though. Our pugs are not on TS/VT with us (Russian guild, so even if they were, chances are slim they would understand it anyways) so we have to rely on them to just follow the commander. A lot of those big zerg fights ended up in just 15 people that were on vent together, against all of you :P

We had to play very precise too, or we’d be swallowed by you XD

Vistal.2906:

So you all think char bound wvw progression is crap? So people can come in rank up any char and still have the same ability’s at lvl 1 as your lvl 80? that’s wrong! I surely dont want to see a lvl 1 on siege fully buffed doing the same crap and damage as a lvl 80 fully buffed. Char bound ability’s is the way to go for wvw.

What?

We’re not talking about characterlevels. That obviously is already in the game and doesn’t need any changing. This is the ranking system we’re talking about. I don’t see how this will or should affect your characterlevels and which abilities you can use….

Example: In sPvP we’re all lvl 80, but let’s pretend that you would have to level up there too. While playing spvp you also have a scoreboard (if you press B key) which shows how many points you have gathered and what place you are on your team (got the most points? then you’re #1). I don’t see how THAT and characterlevels have anything to do with eachother.

I don’t know what exactly this ranking will be about, can’t find a lot (or any) info about it on the gw2 site. But when I hear ranking, I think about some sort of leaderboard showing how “skilled” a player is. There are enough characterbound things in the game, levels, map completion and I can go on. Where is the feature that shows the account progression? You could say these are the “achievements”, but only you can see that, and nobody cares which achievements you have.

The irony…

First complain about the queues, then when there are little queues people complain too… Please for the love of anything, just stop making excuses everyone, it won’t improve the opponents opinion about us, it only makes you/us look like a bunch of babies. (just like how all of you think your opponents are a bunch of whiners and QQers, they think the same about you)

Stop blaming others and do some self-reflection, it’s the only way to improve yourself.

KinkyWarrior.1879:

My Pug zerg once more found the Russians tonight Had 30-35 again but I will admit, when we took your T3 hills, we had more :P But that was the only time we had that number while I was commanding. Afterwards everyone dispersed once more to repair, defend and scout bringing our numbers back down to the 30 mark again.

Best fight I would say was by Briar which seemed to be my 35 Vs 25-30 of you? Either way it was a fun back and forth that lasted a good 10 minutes and ended with both sides with heavy casualties

We had 15/20 Nugos/Allies + some pugs.

When was this fight at briar? I actually don’t remember it… Most fights we had were at Cliffside, Garrison, Bay and 1 or 2 at Bluelake. I was streaming, but maybe it happened when I was afk for 30 minutes…?

And I’m pretty sure more than once you had a lot more than 35 (especially after like 7 or 8pm ish), you were zerging indeed. But interesting fights nonetheless

Ohoho this is such an elbow from the sky.

I haven’t read about what’s up in T8, but THIS should catch their attention

Winning

Monsoon.2589:

…

Just because there is no monthly fee doesn’t mean that whatever they do to the game is alright. That’s what the forums are here for, for feedback. Maybe they’ve already talked about this during their meetings, but maybe they haven’t and this is new insight to them. You never know, and that’s why I post my opinion.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, which means that people will never completely agree on something, same goes with this. To me it seems like quite the opposite of what they’ve been advertising for years before the game came out.

I just want to remind people of Colin’s quote from the GW2 manifesto “I swung a sword, I swung a sword again, heeey I swung it again, that’s great”. The same sarcasm/principle applies to this. “I ranked up on this char, I ranked up again on that char, heeey I ranked up again, that’s great”.

Ofcourse we don’t know all the details, but from the little info we have, to me, it just looks like an alternative leveling system to keep people grinding and bored for life. It takes the special out of it. Like I said, I don’t see how people would eventually care about what rank they are if they have 8 different ranks. Maybe I’m wrong, but even so, I think they should think about it, if they haven’t already.

We’ll see how it turns out.

Why would WvW progress be characterbound? It’s 1 account, 1 player, it should show the player’s progress and skill/ranking, not the character. I honestly couldn’t care less about which character is what rank, I’m more interested in WHO is what rank.

2 different games obviously, but hopefully a good analogy: It would be like in League of Legends where your level and/or rank is determined by which champion you play….

Remember, this is ranking, not character levels. These are 2 completely different ways of showing someone’s progression and IMO it should be treated this way. Because now it just looks like another leveling system to me. A way to increase the level cap without actually increasing it. It just makes the ranking system less interesting and less valuable. Why would anyone care what rank they are when they will have 8 different ranks if they play on different characters?

Goloith.6349:

Nuzt.7894:

When did players get so lazy that they expect everything to be account wide, or retroactive.

Lazy huh? I’m sorry most of us that want account bound have real lives outside of the game and have a job, relationships, kids, or etc. So yes lazy indeed. It’s lazy people like you that can’t post a concrete argument for character bound.

Nuzt also forgot that ArenaNet’s marketing strategy was “no more grinding” and “no wasting player’s time” on whatever, etc etc etc. The only thing I noticed where they kept their word is the leveling curve. (and the questing system, but we’re not talking about that).

Still the best MMO out there imo, but that’s because I find MMORPG’s in general utter ****.

HELL YEA!

But in all seriousness, I like to listen to drum & bass when I play WvW

KinkyWarrior.1879:

About 30ish if im honest. We had about 40 in TS but 10 were scouting elsewhere and at one point in Bay we had 40ish.

Yeah we were about 25-30 too with some pugs.

You had a few good surprise attacks on us too btw. Really good fights

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Deff.7903:

Immolator.5640:

Deff.7903:

SoggyFrog.4170:

Deff.7903:

muahahahaha, the canadian players legend is back, lol

Legend?! I HAVE PROOF:

lol there are 2

GG to gandara, you score a lot during the nigth, despite the “megabus” of canadian. Ni ce effort

Haha because you guys are so hard to beat during primetime

I was not sarcastic, you start at the last position, you will probably finish first, congratz, that’s all folks

Grand coming from you guys considering last weeks win of yours

@Wam, hey what can I say? Im fabulous

On a completely seperate note; been having a blast against Nugos and the other Russians on Gandara BL’s today, awesome skirmishes. Pain in the butt update though :x

I was streaming today and after like 17 min the update happened -.-

http://www.twitch.tv/censtudios/b/378053294

But indeed some interesting fights today. How many were you if I may ask?

I still don’t buy it until I actually see it.

Those screenshots seem fake to me. Exact same players, positions and skill effects

I smell Photoshop

I see what you mean. The XT group seem to be 30-35 ish, almost bordering my definition of a zerg. I understand where you’re coming from, having to fight such groups everytime with your much smaller group can be frustrating, but on the other hand quite challenging.

But not a lot of guildraids on piken seem to be of that size… And I’m fairly sure none of them would combine forces (lets say 20+20) to defeat an enemy group of 20 or even 30.

Nemesys.7251:

uselss discuss about that to win the match u need zerg and with u i mean who want win.

and btw we are always 15/18 max 20(but this happen only few time for now)

I don’t call this a zerg, do you?

What is your definition of a zerg? Where do you draw the line between non-zerging and zerging? How many opponents? Because I’ve seen people call a group of 25 a zerg, when they obviously haven’t faced the real zergs of for an example Vizunah, where you’ll easily encounter 60+ opponents. Now those are zergs and tbh I haven’t seen any piken guilds do this.

Yeah, there is the occasional moment where 2 guildraids meet, but since both raids have different endgoals they quickly split up again. And even when they meet, I doubt numbers get much higher than 40, for 1 or 2 minutes… I’ve more frequently seen both Gandara and Augury (mostly Augury) with higher numbers than the Piken raids.

Karolis.4261:

Becouse www w/o living things roaming around would be dull. Thats not pvp map, thats world pvp map with objectives that involves pve. IF repair cost bother you, i got nothing more to say.

Then don’t let any mobs aggro anyone unless they attack those mobs.

There is no reason for mobs to randomly start attacking players… e.g. Why would a bear attack 30 ppl that are not interested in killing it? I don’t mind the mobs being there to make the world more “alive”, but the aggro seems unnecessary to me.

It doesn’t bother me so much though.

Interesting fights against WvW guild on Gandara bl

Boomstin.3460:

SilverWF.4789:

Gandara and Augury – nothing special – just free stacks ^^

There’s not much challenge we could provide with outmanned buff on piken borderlands and Nug camping inside keeps for 30mins waiting if someone knocks on the door to zerg out. Anyways, enjoy your ‘free stacks’.

Oh and thanks to Dt,Xt for some fun fights, always a pleasure to meet you on the battlefield

Eh… Idk what you based this story on, but Nug doesn’t camp, sorry. We most likely switched maps and came back when we heard the keep was under attack. Waiting in a keep for 30 minutes for it to be attacked is 1) a waste of time, and 2) not our style

Missy.7356:

When people see a majority of Guild names in a group, then thats the name thats called out in chat, you dont pay attention to the others tags, so VII’s 15 will become however many culling allows us to think we see. You may not like it, but other Guilds are rushing in to “help” when you dont need it, I was one of those tucked up in a tower already outnumbered by VII when DT came rushing in to “help”, we know you didnt need it, but seems they didnt. That ss kinda proves what I mean, nug will be called out as the guild but when you stop and actually look at ss there are alot more guilds there, but “nug 30+ [insert area here]” is what is going to be relayed. (i tried counting how many were in that ss, and got fed up but its over 27, also realised if i have issues counting when no movement, no way anyone going to give a precise count when they are)

I dont think anyone is attacking the way you all play, but it does seem that some of the tactics learnt in T2 seems to have crept down into T3, bigger is better, which is a shame because the word fun in playing loses it context when your small group of 15 is run down by a group that seems to have no end over and over. Also if orange swords are to be correct, then most of the time we are facing +25 and Im not including any individual guild in that.

We played with more numbers in T2 (40+pugs) in order to keep up with our opponents. We had to combine 2 or sometimes 3 guilds (Nug+RuNL+INS) to get similar numbers as them. Now that it’s not needed anymore, we run more alone with some GF, since their guild is on a break till the wvw patch. And yeah, pugs gather if we are the only ones with a commander, but when it gets too big (or because the pugs don’t follow as well in fights, sorry) we turn it off too.

We don’t run with that many though… Even with pugs following us we don’t get above 30-35. There are always a few GF and/or RuNL following us, but they are on voice comms with us and part of our raid.

Nugos/RuNLraid is about to start in Gandara bl

archeon.5349:

Just like everybody said before, it was a very good day today! I had a lot of fun to fight both Gandara and Piken. Many good guilds on both server (and very clever when they play). A real 3 way battle and each server takes some risk to move on. I think we all like it.

And many good guilds on Piken (DZ how many are you?? You guys are impressive when you move It was impossible to stop you this morning…). This match up seems to be very good and I want to see more.

See you!

Dalzone [DZ] runs with about 15-20 + some members from other russian guilds on teamspeak (Nug, RuNL, GF, INS) making a total of about 30.

That was the end of a 5-hour russian raid. So much loot…

Gotta give props though to both AR and Gan for persistence. They kept coming back after losing so many fights. That takes guts. And great job defending your towers and keeps. That was excellent use of defensive siege.

Did anyone else notice that on the charts the Blue Borderlands Queue is indicated as “BB Queue”?

Makes me hungry…

Piken Square News – The Good Times are Over

100% bull…. if anything, we have more fun now.

And the fights are still intense!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SceHMyyAXXs (last night)

Diashame.6328:

If any Euro guilds are looking to move server, Fort Aspenwood w3 players would cut off their left nuts for you to come. FA is a pure w3 server, it’s crickets in LA chat. Try find a pve dungeon pug group, your dreaming.

We have strong presence in NA and oceanic times. Looking to strengthen our numbers for sea and euro time zones.

O and not to mention coordinated blackouts and offers of gold assistance upon arrival.

Uh…. Go away please… This thread isn’t about your server. We don’t need these kind of advertisements.

4 guilds left and the server is just doing fine. We will lose this matchup and go to T3-T4 next, where most guilds want to be anyways.

I don’t see why people think PS is in ruins now, it must be because of threads like this one where people misinform the outside world about our situation. I have to be honest here, reading the ingame chats throughout the days, most people seem to be quite happy still, especially about the departing of RG… They are a bit upset that BOON and TUP are gone, but not enough to cry about it (some even call them traitors, goes a bit too far) and sIN is viewed pretty neutral because they were generally nice people and didn’t originate from Piken Square so aren’t blamed for their leave.

Like I said, most people are waiting for the next matchup and aren’t really bothered by all this, which apparently deserved a whole thread where anonymous people tell us lies that our server is doomed.

I personally think the outmanned buff is kinda lame…

Its like “hey, increased rewards, but you won’t be able to get them, cause you’re outmanned!!! isn’t that great?” no…. no it’s not.

Please explain to me how extra karma/exp/mf is great when I’m up against 20 enemies on my own =/ It would make more sense if the outmanned buff made you a little bit stronger, relatively to the amount of enemies you’re up against. (and no, I don’t mean if it’s 10vs20 that the 10 ppl are 2x as strong, NO)

salluks.6017:

Vizunah as a server is..they will do anything to win. Anybody who ever faced them will vouch for it.

True story, and it really is anything… except when it comes to fighting… they seem to run away a lot. ;D

CrassBippy.4619:

Gunnar.5927:

CrassBippy.4619:

ill post here what i did there

not to bash, but these videos would be much more interesting if you did small GvG fights to show skill. like 5v5, still kinda cool but its just a mess of twirling damage, not much to really watch

5 man fights are spvp this is guild fight, it might seem like this is just a train but this is coordinated and skillfull play. Skill and coordination determines outcome otherwise it would just be random who wipes whom.

so then 10v10? its just a train of skill spam. i know they are all likely very skilled, but this video showcases nothing. Just people running into a blob and spamming things.

It really isnt, even at bigger numbers. When you fraps these fights it seems more chaotic than it actually is. You’re also missing the voice-coms in those videos, so for the viewer it seems like random blob vs blob fights while the individual players know exactly what is going on.

I’ve noticed in the past that when I watched my recordings I would see things I completely missed while playing, and that helped me pay more attention to details in-game that eventually help me and my team. Watching back your own recordings really makes you a better player in my opinion. You notice the mistakes you made and you can learn from that.

We will GvG against VcY sometime this week and I really can’t wait

^ Yeah that’s basically it

Green has it too, but on a different map.

From what I know it’s like this:
- Green has bank on the right border
- Red has bank on the left border
- Blue has bank on middle border (not confirmed, havent been blue for a while)

Kerithlan.1659:

Centrix.4065:

Kerithlan.1659:

GordonOrange.1852:

MikeFerguson.8921:

Yeah, that’s my mistake, sorry. Somehow I missed these guys when bankers were changed from being always available at safe points to being part of the upgrade path at keeps, which is why they are only in a couple of the maps.

Since the bankers are only supposed to be available at keeps after an upgrade, we’ll be removing them from the safe areas in a future build.

Umm… How is getting rid of the bank making it so a player never has to leave WvW per your quote from 27 days ago:

“As far as being able to play just in WvW and never have to leave if they don’t want to, that most definitely is our goal, and I think we’ve done a fairly good job at that so far.”

Please just put banks on all BLs. I shouldn’t have to log out and then get back in queue to use the bank. Removing them is in direct opposition to your alleged goal.

Because banks aren’t being removed and you can still access your bank via crafting stations in your home borderland?

Dude….

If you’re in ANOTHER borderlands and you need to go to a bank you CAN’T if you don’t have your keep properly upgraded. Which means you would have to go to another map to get to a bank and then possibly queue to get back.

Dude nothing, they’re not being removed. You can still access a bank if you control a keep with an upgrade (as is clearly stated to be the intent, and is something you clearly understand).

If you don’t control a keep with an upgrade, then work on controlling a keep with an upgrade. If that isn’t an option, then it’s likely you don’t have the numbers to be competitive on that map at that point of time, and you should consider switching anyway.

If it’s really a huge deal to you, and if you really only ever WvW, then keep your character at Ebonhawke and log out while in WvW rather than using the LA portal.

This is not a big deal, dude.

This makes no sense. Why would you motivate people to leave a map where there aren’t enough players in the first place. If anything, they need to find a way to motivate people to stay (which they tried with the breakout event, but it doesn’t help that much).

Where I enter WvW does not matter (and it shouldn’t), if it’s Lions Arch (which it isn’t), heart of the mist or some other random map. The point of the fact is, people have to leave the border/eb to get to a bank and then return. Why don’t you seem to understand this? You’re giving an alternative “solution” which still involves leaving and rejoining WvW.

I’m not saying they have to add banks to the spawn, I understand that they don’t want to make it too easy, fine, then maybe try something different. Something that doesn’t motivate people to leave or get annoyed.

I don’t use the bank that often, so I can wait a while before I have to access mine, but there’s enough other people out there that think that how it currently is set up is too inconvenient, are glad that atleast 1 borderlands has bank and that removing them makes them go “wtf”

Kerithlan.1659:

GordonOrange.1852:

MikeFerguson.8921:

Yeah, that’s my mistake, sorry. Somehow I missed these guys when bankers were changed from being always available at safe points to being part of the upgrade path at keeps, which is why they are only in a couple of the maps.

Since the bankers are only supposed to be available at keeps after an upgrade, we’ll be removing them from the safe areas in a future build.

Umm… How is getting rid of the bank making it so a player never has to leave WvW per your quote from 27 days ago:

“As far as being able to play just in WvW and never have to leave if they don’t want to, that most definitely is our goal, and I think we’ve done a fairly good job at that so far.”

Please just put banks on all BLs. I shouldn’t have to log out and then get back in queue to use the bank. Removing them is in direct opposition to your alleged goal.

Because banks aren’t being removed and you can still access your bank via crafting stations in your home borderland?

Dude….

If you’re in ANOTHER borderlands and you need to go to a bank you CAN’T if you don’t have your keep properly upgraded. Which means you would have to go to another map to get to a bank and then possibly queue to get back.

GordonOrange.1852:

Umm… How is getting rid of the bank making it so a player never has to leave WvW per your quote from 27 days ago:

“As far as being able to play just in WvW and never have to leave if they don’t want to, that most definitely is our goal, and I think we’ve done a fairly good job at that so far.”

Please just put banks on all BLs. I shouldn’t have to log out and then get back in queue to use the bank. Removing them is in direct opposition to your alleged goal.

I agree. If you claim your goal is to let people be able to stay in the map they are now, it doesn’t make sense to make banks only available if you have your all your keeps upgraded. Too many variables. Because when, for whatever reason, you don’t have your keep upgraded you can’t use the bank, you HAVE to leave the border.

Either they still don’t know about it (come on, don’t even know your own game?), or they think that for some reason it’s fine as it is, or they are too “busy” -cough- to fix it.

Only a WvW player skips through all the patchnotes just to find the ones related to WvW or their class.

Only a WvW player kills rabbits, chickens, etc and think that is enough PvE for the day

nalenb.1425:

Only a WvWer sees the trebs in Straits of Devastation and thinks “terrible placement”

Only a WvW player doesn’t know where Straits of Devastation is and has to search the map to find it.

Rinzler.8072:

Shaojack.3871:

Only a WvW player has 2000 hours played but still broke, no map completion or legendary and still sees FOTM as Flavor of the Month.

Man, i guess i wvw too much cause this is true lol

I actually had to google “gw2 FOTM” to realize it’s fractals of the mist… D’oh!

Ironvos.9014:

Only a wvw player would forgo completing the monthly cause of the 7 fractals that need to be done

True story. Never done it, not interested. Miss a monthly? Oh well, who cares…

anonymouse.9053:

I think my map completion, on my level 80 guardian, is around 30%. lol

Mine is 13% :P Jumped into wvw at lvl 2 right after the tutorial. I only explored half of Lions Arch and the remaining few % were because I had to run all the way to Orr to get karmagear.

Theres still a whole week to go, but as of now, Ruins of Surmia is 1st place in tier1 for next week… lol… From lowest to highest tier in just a few hours :P

Hejjin.1697:

Centrix.4065:

snip…

2. ArenaNet posted once explaining that you only queue for 1 map at a time. So if you queue for Border A now and 5 minutes later for Border B, you leave the queue for Border A.

It was Jade Sea borderlands and I only tried to get into that one.

Fair enough, I will have to test it as I thought I had experienced differently, but as I am old hippy, lets just say my memory isn’t what it used to be ;-).

Found it here:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/mike-ferguson-on-the-current-state-of-the-world-vs-world/

ankdarkwolf.1487:

@Centrix: Seriusly, you’re starting to kitten people off. Here and on the Piken forum as well. We all know about the bugs that affect the queue system, but it’s obvious the queue situation is getting worse and worse, especially (what a coincidence!) on the night we’re doing pretty good, when queues, bugged or not, are insanely long.
The fact is you’re totally missing the point. Read the the title of the topic please.

You’re cool cause you can wait 20-30 minutes to get in wvw, ok, good for you. But have you seen all the guildies that are stucked in spvp lobby waiting in queue? Not ZERGLINGS but GUILDIES. It’s obvious in a guild one man can make the difference. Do you seriously think that the guilds will go on like this? Slowly people will get bored of this, guilds will stop to go wvw if they can’t go and have fun together. And without guilds running what zerglings will do? They’ll start to whine like always happens, making people kitten of even more.

It’s a chain event. A bad one.
So please, stop with this false Good-Samaritan mode. Piken has a big problem, and a lot of egoistic people are underestimating it too much, thinking only “Ow i had a short queue, the others are just being stupid QQ.”

You’re really misunderstanding what I’m saying if that’s what you think. You should read what I’m saying before making asinine conclusions and statements. You don’t need to tell me how people underestimate the queueing problem ,not just on Piken, because I know, and I just posted that (you’re trying to convince me of something I already agree on…). But complaining THIS much about it won’t solve the problem. Other servers have had this issue as well and they worked it out with their guilds. But some of you guys don’t seem to try to do that, instead, you are just complaining about guilds that recently joined the server. Instead of asking “why” ask the more important question: “How are we going to work this out”. You have to do what you can while you wait and hope for ANet to make a better system, but “doing nothing” isn’t “doing what you can”.

I am posting about the way to reduce queueing time (and will continue to do so) because there are still people out there that don’t know about it and I am genuinely trying to make it a little easier for them. But hey, if you’re not the kind of person that would help a random player that’s fine by me, but stop calling others out on it when they are trying to help, especially if you don’t know them at all. It only makes you look like an inconsiderate jack***.

I hope you see clearer now where I’m coming from. If not, whatever, but I’m not going to stop helping people just because others don’t like it.

Feel the love

Hejjin.1697:

Hmmm

1. The queues appear buggy. They are not FIFO (First in First Out). It appears to be random as to who enters the border and has no bearing as to when they entered the queue.
2. If you queue up for all 4 maps then the average time that you spend in the queue is substantially less than if you only queue up for 1 specific border. Obviously this impacts the guilds that are raiding a particular border.

In your example above, you neglect to state what map(s) you were queueing for. Can you clarify as to whether it was for a specific map, or for multiple maps?

1. Yep, that’s why you should requeue after 15 minutes. It was a while ago when I read this, but iirc the bug keeps you at the “end” of the queue (I know, FIRO, but you get the point) and by requeueing you basically reset your queue

2. ArenaNet posted once explaining that you only queue for 1 map at a time. So if you queue for Border A now and 5 minutes later for Border B, you leave the queue for Border A.

It was Jade Sea borderlands and I only tried to get into that one.

Wamgor.9347:

Centrix can you please stop giving people outside piken the wrong idea of ques in primetime on our server… 20 mins only… lol Each guild raid on average has 5+ players stuck in the que… and thats alot of guild raids… and last night TUP didnt even raid cuz ques was so bad, and Boon wasnt out in force (they had 5) that is a 2 big core guilds… thats another 50 players on top of the ques last night… you realise how long it would take for them to get into a zone?

You were probally in piken bl, or just lucky… because last night piken bl was full / had que but got totally destroyed losing t3 upgrades to both enemies… so I can understand randoms maybe logging after getting their kitten beat. But on outer borderlands when they are full of guild raids, no one is going to log early, only random crashes.

The ques are getting worse and its the new norm for Piken, because more and more idiots are moving to a full WvW server because we have a medium server population GG anet… your changes are killing off the WvW community on the roleplay server… the one that doesnt Zerg… which you supposedly wanted more players/servers to play like instead of just run around like a blob.

I’m just behing honest and saying what my experiences are. I know that when the bl’s are full it’s hard to get a whole guild in and that it’ll take a while. If it takes 1 person 10-30 min to get in, then yeah a whole guild…?

But that’s not what I’m talking about, I’m talking about the fact that people here say they are in a queue for 3 hours, which is just insane and unnecessary. How is it that one person has to wait 3 hours when the other gets in within 20 minutes? When the person that gets in after 20 min probably started queueing AFTER the 3 hours guy. That’s not my fault, and not the fault of the players trying to get in.

I’m just telling people that they can reduce their queuetime from 3 hours to 10-30 mins, because it IS possible. People disconnect from the game more often than you think (for whatever reason). Yesterday I started queueing at 7:25pm CET, requeued after 15 min and got in at 7:46.

And btw, it was on Jade Sea bl and the other days on Riverside. It’s only during the day when there are no queues that I go to Piken bl and sometimes EB.

3 hours queue, come on.

Ensity.2164:

Ok after this i saw in whole forum get me out of my clothes!Why a few ppl are so egoists and seem like noob?Before post here asked other ppl about queue…

How is me telling people how to cut their queue time egoistic? Can you give me your reasoning?

Yep I have GW2 on an SSD too and I highly doubt that has anything to do with it :P

But apparently for some people it’s fixed…

Force player names to always be visible, if:
- Player is within appropriate range
- Player is not in stealth
(and ofcourse if not behind objects)

Culling won’t be fixed, but I’m sure it’ll fix the problems it causes.

Seems like less than a days work to me

Kyus.3812:

Centrix.4065:

Queues are never 3 hours long… If you’ve been in the queue for over 15 minutes you should requeue. Chances are you’ll get in 2-5 minutes later.

in the evenings around 6:30-7 you can expect a 45 minute que post 7 its about 1 hour. this is not a que bug this is how long the borderland ques are at present. around 8 o clock yesterday a guildie tried to que but was waiting for 1.5 hours with no pop.

The nature of Piken squares wvw focus means you don’t have people dropping out of wvw part way through the evening in any kind of large numbers. you get HoB tup Boon and one other in a borderland and the members will be consistantly in their all evening.

Yesterday between 6 and 10pm CET I have reconnected a few times and queued only for 10-20 minutes every time.

Instead of:

Culling (invisible enemies) → Long load time → Visible enemies

it’s now:

Culling (invisible enemies → Long load time → Placeholders → Visible enemies

Same culling happening. Placeholders aren’t really placeholders, just another step in between.

Queues are never 3 hours long… If you’ve been in the queue for over 15 minutes you should requeue. Chances are you’ll get in 2-5 minutes later.

Itll be like the first few weeks after launch. Servers will eventually stabilize again and since there are no free transfers, servers will not suddenly grow super strong again and mess up the tiers.

zastari.1730:

The vultures sure did see an opportunity in this thread.

No need to be so rude…

graverr.6473:

Wow. I applied to All Bls and EB for over an hour now and im still not in :/.Gl getting a guild raid in WvW.

Requeue if you’re in the queue for over 15 minutes…. It’s a bug

Axle.5182:

graverr.6473:

Wow. I applied to All Bls and EB for over an hour now and im still not in :/.Gl getting a guild raid in WvW.

Aye RG have left us for NA or at least in the process of doing so as a result

Unfortunate but true

You can say whatever you want, but I really enjoyed my time on BT and I feel bad seeing it in this state. Had a great time, met a lot of people (some of which unfortunately split off to other servers). But the last few weeks were horrible, I can understand why the more hardcore guilds left. It kinda snowballed…