Guild Wars 2

neon.4863:

“Alt+F4 is no escape
If someone that you’re fighting disconnects during combat (via Alt+F4, killing the client process, etc.) their character will be instantly killed, death penalties will be applied, and XP & loot will be handed out as usual.”

Does this mean that you’ll be insta-killed if you disconnect when in combat mode, or strictly when you’re currently in the middle of fighting another player? Because it’d suck to be stuck in combat mode (e.g. after being hit by trash mobs) and disconnect (accidentally or just because you’re done for the day) only to find yourself dead and with damaged/broken armor when you log in again.

If it’s strictly when you’ve been hit recently by a player during combat then that’s great, though!

Yeah, because often enough you’re stuck in combat when there are no enemies around you. Standing there for 2 minutes before some random player that attacked you earlier dies.

I think the best thing to do was to put those penalties if you disconnect while downed, and a less harsh penalty if you’re still alive but disconnect (and maybe a 3-5 second wait).

But atleast it’s better than nothing.

I guess we’ll see more suicides by jumping off a cliff when this update comes…

Queues over an hour? Shouldn’t be right. Queues really don’t take that long (1-10 minutes). If you’re in a queue for longer than 15 minutes re-queue, because you’re probably bugged.

Columba.9730:

45 minutes for me tonight and we were heavily outnumbered. i don’t get it.

Looks like the bug I was talking about

I thought it was quite entertaining, so by all means, do continue

Account.9832:

Centrix.4065:

Words like “invaders” are actual words, not names. So using these words in your guildname is not “stealing” or “impersonating” as you are suggesting. It’s like saying every guildname with the word “The” in it is copying other guildnames.

This has nothing to do with “copying other guild names”, nor did anyone suggest that it did. An no one (except you) said anything about “stealing”, either. If you want to contradict an argument, you might want to check that someone other than you actually presented that argument.

The issue here is using a different server’s name (prefixed by “Invaders”), in a context where that duplicates a standard WvW tag.

When a guild from Castle of Rock chooses the name “Papery Tower Invaders” knowing that that’s how the game labels players from the Papery Tower server in WvW, it’s pretty obvious that they’re doing it to try to appear (on first glance) as being from that server.

Just as someone naming themselves “Arena Net G M” would almost certainly be trying to appear as an Arena Net game master.

“Arena” and “Net” are also “just words”, but (for the reason above) they are not allowed in GW2. In a game that seems to rely so much on automated name filtering, it’s a bit surprising to see that guilds can name themselves after other servers, and even duplicate the standard tags displayed in WvW.

Calm down. I didn’t say anyone did anything and I didn’t say anyone was stealing. The || or “impersonating” as you are suggesting. || was about the impersonating, not the stealing. I misunderstood the OP and I was just only stating what would be obvious if it were in a different context.

What you said about the ArenaNet in names is pretty obvious and straightforward. I mean… you really don’t have to explain that.

About using servernames in guildnames, it would be kinda hard to filter that. Because, if a guild on Desolation is called Desolation Invaders, nobody cares. But if that guild were to move to another server, then what? The guildname was made on Desolation, and I would assume that you don’t have a problem with this. They would have to take so many variables into consideration just to program a guildname filter, which isn’t worth the time in my opinion.

Plus, I don’t see why it would be confusing to anyone if someone on serverX has a serverY guildname. You always see the ServerX Invader first, since it’s their name. If you saw a ServerX Invader, then click on them to see the ServerY Invaders guildname and actually believed they were from ServerY you really aren’t that bright (not talking to you specifically, before you go all apepoop on me).

So from my point of view, guilds can be called whatever they want to be called, as long as it doesn’t violate general regulations.

Good fights today

Oh I didn’t see that guys post lol, but still… I think vizunah is overreacting. What they are experiencing everyday is really not as bad as was experienced on far shiverpeaks. And even if it is, so what?

Words like “invaders” are actual words, not names. So using these words in your guildname is not “stealing” or “impersonating” as you are suggesting. It’s like saying every guildname with the word “The” in it is copying other guildnames.

I agree guildnames like these aren’t the most original, but I don’t see anything wrong with it.

There are 2 reasons I am not going for a legendary:

- Too much grindfest to get them. I don’t like grinding, and killing the same monster 3x in a row is already annoying to me. The amount of effort I would put into getting one is not worth the result in my opinion.

- I basically only play WvW, and since you stand out with a legendary, I don’t think legendary + wvw = best thing to do.

So in the end, I would have to do a lot of things I don’t like to do to get one, just to stand out in my group in WvW making myself an easier target… Digging my own grave.

Coolmoos.8546:

This is kind of sad…. I’m sorry but a terrible and shameful way or recruiting.

Sounded more like bragging to me tbh.

Ofcourse there is a probability of a genuine help offer

Auesis.7301:

I am against the existence of Portal in WvW simply because it makes the Mesmer a more desired profession over any other. I thought we could play how we wanted? It’s simply pathetic to hear the mandatory “sweep for Mesmers” EVERY SINGLE CAPTURE.

Why? I think you want to feel safe after a cap, but it doesn’t have to be that way. It makes the game more interesting.

If every class didn’t have it’s special thing, it would be boring

brunohstein.9038:

The problem with portals is that the game can’t handle the 2321421 players appearing in one place at the same time. I actually think that capping the portal to the maximum of 10 players would be a good change. Portals would remain useful, teleporting golems or players to critical positions.

Oh yeah. 5 golems waiting for a portal, then here come 8 other clueless players ruining the portal for the golem, leaving 2 golems behind. That alone should be a good reason not to put a cap on it. Because face it, how often do you see people randomly entering a portal after it was placed. They have no idea where it leads to, they just want to go through it.

Also you’re seeing this wrong. As stated many times before in this thread, the fact that portals can’t handle “2321421” players isn’t caused by the portals, but by culling (invisible players).

brunohstein.9038:

I actually think the game won’t ever be able to handle gracefully those 50 players rendering at the same spot at the same time.

Even if you can’t see them, you can still counter a portal attack, but that’s not the issue here. The issue is that you’re claiming that portals are the issue (XD). Let’s say (hypothetical) culling somehow get’s a good fix, enemies show up instantly, even those 50 after a portal. Would you still say portals need a fix?

You can get get until the 2nd part of the stairs. All you have to do is get past the first part where you get massive damage. You’re safe after the walls, but if you keep running in you’ll get ported back out.

vulneraria.4865:

some posts are very fun here.
VZ that say to blacktide :hey you are nightcappers!
they stay in nr1 position for long time due nightcapper.
BT guilds that say that fights are boring.
Hey you joined the strongest server for an easy win! now u complain that is too easy?
want an hard fight? go lonley to vabbi and bring them nr1.

But Blacktide wasn’t on #1 forever… Why should the guilds or people that went to/were in blacktide BEFORE it was #1 leave? It doesn’t make any sense.

I don’t find it boring at all. Yeah the server is winning, but it’s not like we don’t have to do anything for it. I think the people that say blacktide is boring are either just bragging or overreacting. If it’s boring, go to Arborstone borderlands, it usually doesn’t have any green in it, go cap some things and make your time useful

I think Vizunah needs to stop complaining as well. The hypocrisy oozes (pun intended)

To blacktide: If it was boring and we had nothing to do, the score wouldn’t be like this in the morning:
To Vizunah: Hypocrisy explained:

kefro.9312:

Vizunah doing great : /

Wow, when was this? 3:32am last night?

Dayum xD

I don’t think portals are the main issue here, but culling. The problem with portals is that when a group comes through it, you don’t see them. From your point of view you get killed all of a sudden, but in reality the enemy has been there for 3-5 seconds already. Enough time to respond.

I say fix culling first, before breaking stuff you think you’re fixing, because I’ve been on both sides of a portal attack and from both sides I don’t see any problems with it. After a wipe I don’t think “stupid portals, weh weh weh”, but “oh dayum, should’ve seen that coming”.

You CAN counter portal attacks, it’s just that the whole group you’re with basically has to respond fast :P (or see the enemy group standing on a portal entry, then atleast you have time to announce an incoming on vent/ts)

And to end this with the 2 most lovable words:

PORTAL INCOMING!!!!!!!

Tygra.4570:

Centrix.4065:

I don’t think Nugos was there when that happened (atleast not as an event). I don’t remember being there so I can confidently say I wasn’t. Knowing them a little bit, I doubt my guild would just leave after something like that, even if the event was over. Seems more like something PUGs/random people without a commander would do: kitten lost a tower… not enough ppl in this border, can’t do much, so I’m out"

Yup there were only a few Nugos, probably waiting to tp on another borderland.
I hope to see you full force next time, it’s always a pleasure (and often a pain).
Cheers

Which guild are you from? I’ll keep an eye out ;D

Tygra.4570:

@Centrix : when im telling you this is the first day we attacked BT before AS, i do not need for your permission to say that. I am on Vizu. I play there and I sometimes lead. I know what we do.
The fact you guys left all together right after the loss of your tower may be the “end of your WvW time for today”. I can understand that. Tho i’m not sure why [nug] and friends ([Xaoc],…)finished their playtime all together at the same time after the loss of a tower at 4pm GMT+1. Or why our people saw you on other maps. Hence my small words. Nothing personnal.

Cheers

I don’t think Nugos was there when that happened (atleast not as an event). I don’t remember being there so I can confidently say I wasn’t. Knowing them a little bit, I doubt my guild would just leave after something like that, even if the event was over. Seems more like something PUGs/random people without a commander would do: “ kitten lost a tower… not enough ppl in this border, can’t do much, so I’m out”

Zero.8590:

Because we took and upgraded BT->Eternal/VS->AS. Ofc we can’t hold 4 maps at morning. Usually we ignored AS border and let them to upgrade keeps.

Well there you go. I don’t know what the other guilds on Blacktide do with AS borderlands (apparently nothing). I pretty much ignore it as well.

Tygra.4570:

mOlder.4803:

Does it really take two french servers to beat Blacktide?

Yes we would need both servers because BT is really strong.
But i still don’t get why you’d complain about that since BT is an ally of several EU servers that has been created to beat T1 (that is to say Vizunah).

About the non-fighting beetween AS and VS, i was leading this afternoon on AS borderland and you guys just quitted when we did a little strategic move by attack south while AS was attacking bay.
That may be the first time in 9 days that we attacked BT before AS. Hold your ground guys.
That being said, we never were in chat or planned anything with AS, and fought them as much as possible. At least they don’t quit when they have to defend 2 places at the same time.

Regards from Vizu.

Uhm… Your claim is based on what exactly? Because:

Centrix.4065:

Just finished on vizunah border:

Arbor attacking their bay from the south:
http://censtudios.com/gw2/gw2-1.png

Vizunah from the north:
http://censtudios.com/gw2/gw2-2.png

We managed to hold both zergs off for quite a while with not that many forces. There were many interesting fights. First Arbor, then Vizunah right after that, then Arbor again (they used the hole in the wall created by vizunah)

Arbor eventually took it at about 3:15pm

Been a very fun start of the week so far and the scores are pretty tied, so anything can happen. Good luck to all

Judging an entire server based on 1 event, that might have been just the guilds being finished with their wvw events btw, is just asinine. Just because it happened once, doesn’t mean the whole server does it all the time.

KiNgPiN.2075:

Mate BT let AS to cap at AS bl for a whole week witout any decent offense from BT thats why u been fighting only VS. And btw its fault of AS that they lost like 15k on VS and end up 3rd. And about PvD, AS was doing realy great last week at night so u cant blame other for PvD when u doing it too. have a nice day

We don’t “let” anyone do anything. If AS manages to cap everything on their own border because there aren’t enough Blacktide players on that map, that’s good for them. Sucks for us… and you, because: let’s be honest here. Why isn’t Vizunah the one that has everything capped on AS border? Probably for the same reason BT hasn’t.

romsea.8539:

Hmm i see, don’t be mad, repair cost isn’t that high.

You should know

tita.6358:

hey Nug/GF aren’t you bored every evening to do the same kitten thing on VS Bl?
stacking 50+ people on the same spot and downing reinforced doors with 1 auto attack only in 15 minutes per door?
taking garrison and the two towers in 1.5 hours like this when France is eating is how you get your fun during your primetime?
why are you even playing this game?

and i hear VS is a zergy server…
Ruin was even better than this…

You made a screenshot where Nug and GF are together…. Nug and GF usually do their own thing. GF together, Nug together, sometimes we meet.

tita.6358:

was not my point. neither a whine
tips for you: there are siege weapons in that game. they destroy doors very quickly. far better than spamming fireball on them for 20 minutes.
there are also breakable walls that can be destroyed by catapults and trebuchets however fireballs won’t damage them .

you should try it. lot of time gain especially when there is not much defense in front of you.

Are you kidding me? Siege? We build siege all the time. Don’t make stuff up please…

I think you’re complaining about non-existent issues here.

Vroum.2906:

Centrix.4065:

Just finished on vizunah border:

Arbor attacking their bay from the south:
http://censtudios.com/gw2/gw2-1.png

Vizunah from the north:
http://censtudios.com/gw2/gw2-2.png

We managed to hold both zergs off for quite a while with not that many forces. There were many interesting fights. First Arbor, then Vizunah right after that, then Arbor again (they used the hole in the wall created by vizunah)

Arbor eventually took it at about 3:15pm

Quite a change from the morning’s situation when Arborstone was everywhere but on this map and Bt forces seemed focused here with you and Xaoc.
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/e13f428e-d5af-40d5-b96e-04b5bb3027d5.jpg

Tough morning then for us, even been outnumbered around 10:00, but in the end we managed to hold the north.
With a great (and a bit desperate) defence of Garrison after your golems’ breakthrough.

Hah, Yeah I was in the map during the golem-garisson attack in the morning, but I only participated in 1 attempt. Some of my guild was there, but not many. I believe it was mainly Xaoc. Nugos was focussing on other parts of the map. We weren’t with that many in the morning.

Just finished on vizunah border:

Arbor attacking their bay from the south:
http://censtudios.com/gw2/gw2-1.png

Vizunah from the north:
http://censtudios.com/gw2/gw2-2.png

We managed to hold both zergs off for quite a while with not that many forces. There were many interesting fights. First Arbor, then Vizunah right after that, then Arbor again (they used the hole in the wall created by vizunah)

Arbor eventually took it at about 3:15pm

Been a very fun start of the week so far and the scores are pretty tied, so anything can happen. Good luck to all

MartyPartys.9187:

Waffler.1257:

MartyPartys.9187:

- Water, there should be water around the keep (like bay) only that you won’t be able to cross it.

Hmm, water that you can’t cross. Sounds like molten LAVA!

What i meant was, you would be able to swim in the water, you only won’t be able to cross it.

But why wouldn’t you be able to swim in it? You can swim in any other water, but not that one…?

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It is pretty strange that the developers made the mesmer utility so strong compared to other classes. Doesn’t really make sense in my opinion. As to why their isn’t a cap on the mesmer portals is beyond my comprehension as well. Its getting to the point where everyone mesmer portals almost 100% of the time now in the upper tiers whether it is needed or not.

It’s just part of the class.

No other class can go stealth as much and long as thieves, because that’s what they do.

I don’t play a mesmer, but I think it’s perfectly fine. It’s a teamskill, and gw2 promotes teamwork

I didn’t use it to taunt people.

I know people on other servers, and when I see their guildname I wanna check if it was them or not (or who else it was)

Or to just talk to people on the other side. Sometimes I had great convos

Turtles can be countered, so I personally think they shouldn’t be nerfed.

It’s part of the WvW tactic. Your guild/team/server being unable to come up with something to counter it and effectively perform it is not a valid reason for a nerf, especially when other guilds/teams/servers can.

Crushinator.4672:

I started this topic cause I am colorblind. I have a hard time picking my dyes cause I have no clue what looks good or not. Include a screenshot if you want.

Just do what looks good for you

Slashpaf.9250:

MagnusLL.8473:

Tzun.6073:

Is it better to settle for third? Because that’s what going to happen if we don’t get out sh…t together.

Strategically speaking, given the situation right now, it makes exactly zero sense for both Vizunah and Desolation to kill each other. If we were on Vulcan instead of Earth, you’d see both servers engaged in a total 2 vs 1 against BT to try and reduce them to sub-100 points per tick every time it’s realistically possible. The only moment when it starts making sense attacking each other is once you have mathematical certainty that even a perfect 2 vs 1 is not going to change the final result of the matchup.

Of course I fully realize that this is indeed Earth, and that people reach decisions mostly by emotional means rather than rational; that however doesn’t mean I have to commit the same mistake :P

Hopefully you’re not a stratege in your guild.

Vizu wants Deso and his US mercenaries with too big mouthes to be kicked out of this Tier, and the more humiliated they are, the best we feel.

If RUIN has shown us the minimum respect we (the only T1 serv since the beginning) deserved, maybe we would have considered this match differently. But this is not the case, so you’ll learn to be less arrogant next time you’ll fight with the bests.

And even if we didn’t dislike Deso for that, we’ve always made the same choice to stay in T1. Harass the weakest, don’t let him any chance to gain any points as often as possible. Because a 4k points gap can be filled very fast, and we don’t want to take any risk of being 3rd.

Brunners.7251:

I just want to point out that you’re right. IRON don’t go in EB, from what I can tell it was sorted very early that IRON will take the BL and RUIN EB.

IRON put in a kitten hard shift every night to try and keep some semblance of dignity for our server.

They can always be found with at least one commander on, trying to rally the PUGs.

The unfortunate thing, and the thing that differentiates us from the other servers is our PUGs are horribly disorganised while both the other two servers have PUGs that listen and help out.

Ours just sort of do their own thing.

This is another effect of being arrogant and saying : “without us, this server would be nothing.”
On vizunah we don’t have any zerg guild. We don’t have a guild with more than 10 people on EB. We only have an alliance of 15 little guildes (and a lot more of tiny guilds without any links between them), and every leader of this alliance is humble, threat pug with a lot of respect, and that’s why we have quality pugs, because they know that if we win, it’s because of them mostly. Because they listen, because they take initiatives, because they scout, because they fight for each other until they fall asleep on their keyboard, they are the best.
This is why Vizunah deserves to be on T1, because we are the most involved players you’ll see on this game.

Don’t get me wrong. I kinda agree with both sides, but you have to understand that it’s kind of ironic to say “so you’ll learn to be less arrogant next time you’ll fight with the bests”. Saying that, especially like that, makes you look very, very arrogant, like the stereotype everyone has about the french…

llexa.2396:

[10.11.2012] Current match-up: Desolation vs Vizunah Square vs Blacktide

Today went excellent, we even doesn’t expect so good score. Now there are difficult battles on all maps. In the morning Ruin was defeated by us, despite online around 50 peoples. Vizunah Square loosing even in prime time, we think they are slightly better than Elona Reach. But may be later they can surprise us and we didn’t saw their real power. Desolation doesn’t surprise us, the same old Ruin. So we expect that problems will begin in weekdays. Ruin have night prime time, even if other guild decide to have a rest, then Ruin fight in their prime time and they will have tens of thousands points. If we relax and will have insufficiently people, we quickly move to second place. We are glad that it seems that we will have a good gap in start of weekdays.

That funny to read official forum, where Ruin wrote that they are glad to see new international server on tier 1, and with our help can drop Vizunah Square out of tier 1, and Desolation place on summary not the main goal. Vizunah happy we stay ahead of the Ruins and revenge them for French losses on last week. All are happy. We happy too, we have first place. Idyll =)

Situation on 10:30 pm (UTC +4)

Did they really say you are avenging the french loss? Lol

It’s always about them….

Just had the longest turtle ever on the Vizunah borderlands at Askalion Hills. Epic battles. GG Blacktide!

Anhellbro.7213:

BT slaughter all
http://forums.goha.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=93822&d=1352528289

We all know BT is strong in the morning and that’s where VS and Deso have a little hickup.

Good fights though. It feels so weird fighting guilds I used to play with… epic

I heard a lot of the russians from FSP went to BT. I used to play on FSP and am now on Deso. I hope to encounter these russians. They were really good and were actually the main force of FSP if you ask me.

Good luck BT. Lets have a good match.

PS. I dont care who wins, as long as VS goes down (sorry)

I play mainly WvW on my main, and I haven’t really done much outside of WvW with it. Ofcourse the ocasional dungeon and such, but it has been at lvl 80 for a long time now. While I was still leveling I was in wvw about 90-95% of the time, so yeah it’s possible.

WvW probably isn’t the fastest way to level, but imo it’s the most fun way.

I agree with removing the EU/US distinction.

If you’re going to allow US players to come to EU servers and vice versa and also post an announcement on your forums saying that those transfers are part of WvW (thus part of the game) then you should remove the area distinction. It would otherwise contradict what you posted:

Matt Witter.6982:

Players should not be punished or unable to experience and view the same content as everyone else because they play at a different time. They too are paying customers.
This is not saying that we are against any adjustment to scoring, or against developing another mechanic to improve the capping system. This is simply saying that we will not be changing WvW based on some players’ idea of off time hours.

Also, if you remove this. People won’t flame on each other for having players from a different region on their server.

The only reason why I would imagine you had the EU/US thing is for the french/german/spanish servers. But do you really want to confuse your customers just to please 3 countries? Let those servers keep their EU tag, but other than that I don’t see how it should stay. It also makes wvw more interesting. That way you most likely won’t have to see the same opponent 8 weeks in a row.

Lol, no wonder they’re losing winkwink ;D

yeah yeah yeah, calm down

IRL it wouldnt make sense to be able to spy when you’re dead, but it would be messed up if they made the whole screen black or something when you die lol. So I don’t think there’s much to do about it. Still, I believe that if you stay dead for too long you get kicked for inactivity.

I don’t understand how that makes sense (I get the party thing, but other than that…?)

But oh well… Gotta work what you got =/

Arani.9057:

Centrix.4065:

This queue-thing is still bugged or something, because sometimes I get in WvW within 3 minutes while others have been in the queue for 30 minutes.

Right now: I’ve been in the queue for over 2 hours, while others get in within 10 or 20 minutes. Some other people I know have the same problem sometimes, but one just got in (also after 2 hours).

I queue earlier than guildies, but they get in sooner.

I can’t find any good explanation by ArenaNet.

Seriously, how does this work? Is it bugged or are some unknown priorities.

there is a bug. We have a rule of thumb, during normal times if you queue longer than 10-15 minutes re-queue. Whenever someone else gets in shorter q time than you same thing.

The way it was explained to me the bug continues to just put you at the end of the queue over and over when you get it. Re-queue is work around for it.

I’ve requeued after 30 minutes since I’m in the queue thogh

This queue-thing is still bugged or something, because sometimes I get in WvW within 3 minutes while others have been in the queue for 30 minutes.

Right now: I’ve been in the queue for over 2 hours, while others get in within 10 or 20 minutes. Some other people I know have the same problem sometimes, but one just got in (also after 2 hours).

I queue earlier than guildies, but they get in sooner.

I can’t find any good explanation by ArenaNet.

Seriously, how does this work? Is it bugged or are some unknown priorities.

Eles aren’t as weak as people say. If you know how to use your skills you can survive pretty long. And I only have 13K hp

The thing that annoy me the most about eles is that a lot of skill take so long to charge (and they are based on a single location), a lot of your skills will miss, unless your enemy just stands still. Perfect example: Dragon’s Tooth; It takes so long for the skill to drop your enemy is long gone when it lands.

Sorry, but I’m honestly not going to root for Vizunah lol

I think you mean the zerg. If the zerg is just going in circles it means they’re probably karmafarming and doing nothing useful to wvw.

If you want to transfer servers go to character selection screen and click world selection. The cooldown for transfers is 24h atm, but starting tomorrow it will be 7 days. So once you’ve transfered you have to stay on that server for 7 days before you can go back.

It’s not their fault the people on those [FR]/[DE]/[SE] servers don’t want to communicate in english. They chose to be in a server like that. Everything has it’s pro’s and cons.

You can always get french canadians if it really bothers you.

Good to see Elona back. It’s once more fun to fight against you.

Scribbles.7493 : “I believe it’s common knowledge that the Russians on Blacktide and Far Shiverpeaks don’t really get along.”

But we (Far Shiverpeaks) love our russians, so we will help them out against BT whenever necessary.