Guild Wars 2

Random People.4629:

Since we’re doing screenshots, Vizunah Mesmer inside SM walls, check.

I’ve been stuck inside a wall many times (always by accident), and I’m not a mesmer. Does this mean I cheat too? Just because it’s a mesmer, doesn’t mean it’s all on purpose and he’s trying to cheat (could be, but it’s not 100% certain). Don’t assume anything until there is rational reason and evidence to believe so.

T1 is ruthless and we all know that. Make sure your towers/keeps/castle are clean after every cap. Everything is possible and allowed until ANET changes the system or unless it’s against the ToS

Hyde.6189:

Rob.1039:

I really can’t understand why people get angry at other players doing JP. I personally don’t like mindless zerging and nose-hitting the walls, but enjoy those little skirmishes that pop out every now and then, and in JPs you can get plenty of them. And while I try to get as much fun as I can, just by playing game the way I like to, I constantly get flamed on map chat for doing so.

I don’t mind people doing the jumping puzzles, but if you come on map chat asking people to drop what they’re doing to come help you while we’re all busy doing things that actually help our score like defending our keeps, then you can expect people to be annoyed.

+1

You can do the puzzle if you want, just don’t drag me or my teammates into it.

Do you actually have to USE the siege to reset the timer? Or is just entering the siege enough?

If you know your server has a long name, don’t stand near the edge of whatever you’re hiding behind. It’s just common sense really

Aren’t there like… categories? Because for an example I would nominate Vizunah Square for consistency, but definitely not for being “the best” or anything.

Edit: Don’t you dare take this post as a vote for Vizunah, cause it’s not :P It’s a question with an example XD

I thought the siege timer started after the owner logged out or something like that.

pigtaro.2749:

A massive improvement that can be done is to display the countdown on the sieges, or show it when the players click on the sieges. Will make it much easier for players to see which sieges need refresh, rather than having to go to everyone of them.

Or 2 “hp” bars. 1 HP bar and 1 bar right above it that shows the timer (so halfway means 15 minutes left)

Yeah a forced waypoint back to your base is not the way to go, especially if that timer is just 10-20 seconds wtf. Then what’s the point of the ressing system? Ressing a dead body usually takes about that long. The corpse would just auto-waypoint back in the middle of a res. Hell no.

The AFK timer is fine as is, don’t change that.

Fishbait.6723:

You maybe got unlucky & were spotted before hiding.
I camera pan all the time whilst running, looking for roamers.
You can hide easily at times, depending on terrain.
I`ve often /sleep behind a wall right next to a mass zerg without being spotted.

P.S. I`m a full sized, big, fat Charr

The enemy can still see it in chat that you went to sleep. If it’s a zerg they probably saw it, but decided to ignore you. Killing 1 player is not a zerg priority.

When I run around I also look around and I often see roamers, but I don’t go after them all, why would I? Have better things to do :P

But yeah you CAN hide, but using an emote to do so will only let the enemy know you’re near. It’s basically a “HEY GUYS I’M NEAR COME FIND ME PLZ?”

When I die I want to look around for a little bit to see how my team is doing. I say let the corpse be able to see normally for 20-30 seconds and then force the map.

And make the “a noble soul is healing you” a bit more obvious, because a lot of players still waypoint out when others are ressing them…

ktith.6197:

Or you could go help out the EU servers that desperately need NA coverage….

Just saying…

That would be easier, but if their guild already decided not to transfer this is their only option.

Gnat.5124:

On another note, the lag this weekend has been awful – hitting skills and nothing happening – responsible for mass deaths due to me dropping a portal in a corridor and not in the lords room becasue I didn’t know where the hell I was..never had such bad lag

Massive lag indeed. I just made sure I stayed with the commander, spammed the skills I wanted to use and hoped for the best…

The people that played ele from the start know that before, the mistform was on #3 downed skill with like 17 seconds of cd before u can use it (when going down first time). Since you’re an ele you pretty much never got to use the mistform skill because you’re always dead before you can use it. They changed it to #2 skill with no cd on first down.

I used mistform a LOT to go through gates and pretty much everything that should stop me in between, but I agree it’s a bit silly. Things like Guardian Shelter should stop mistformed eles.

Zynthetic.2954:

Step 1: Make it so you can join the overflow whenever you want (and possibly choose which overflow as well)
Step 2: Make a WvW Eternal Battlegrouds and Borderlands overflow maps composed of random players from all servers, so people in the queue can do something WvW related, and not sit around doing nothing.
Step 3: Allow you to queue for the WvW overflow directly.
Step 4: Remove jumping puzzles from the maps that are used for the actual server matchups, while keeping the ones in the overflow.
Step 5: Move the EB entrance portals to the jumping puzzles into the spawn areas, and add ones in for the borderlands puzzle in the spawn.
Step 6: Watch as people that want to WvW can actually do WvW and avoid queues, and those that want to jumping puzzles can do so without hindering their server.

Optionally, do what OP said and remove badges from the JP chests. Personally, I’d rather them stay unless they buff the drop rate on badges.

I have only 1 desire: To join WvW from character select. I have no interest in loading a map I won’t even stay in for longer than 30 seconds. I don’t know how they would do a queue while in character select, but only then I would want to go to some other non-wvw related map lol

I hope to see more BTers next 2 weeks, but idk with the holidays and all…

Wanze.8410:

regular melee attacks also didnt hit the gate during that siege

If that’s true then it’s not a golem issue.

I have leveled my guardian 99% in wvw, starting from lvl 2 right after the tutorial to lvl 80. (the other 1% was lions arch basically… not even all waypoints yet :P)

So yes you can quite easily level up in WvW, even from 65-80

I have the feeling SFR started to slack their mornings and early afternoons on monday. Vizunah crawled up slowly and may even win this week. Idk what happened to SFR during the week, but if they stop playing that quickly after thinking to have a guaranteed win, idk man…

This has been a better week than the 2 before, which were really boring. I’m glad about that. But I still hope to see more from BT.

Wandred.4583:

2Same.4687
this another RUIN. not from Desolation. All who stay and play – on BT now

RUIN isnt on BT bro… If they are they never did anything WvW related.

A few members that hopped that week BT went #1 and I see maybe 1 RUIN member every 3-4 days now (wouldnt even surprise me if it was the same guy). So I really doubt the guild is on BT. I heard they left to play another game, but idk and idc to find out.

+Magic Find
+Exp
+Karma

I don’t see how the outmanned buff actually helps you…

Grok.6714:

EXTREME culling on BT map. At least for us on SFR. Any other servers experiencing the same?

Whole raids pass by each other :S

Same thing for me on BT. We even got disconnected not so long ago and BT borderlands not being available. Did you have the same thing?

Nergrom.7592:

Thimill.9162:

3) “I haven’t seen a group of them with less than 10 members” If you don’t see our roaming groups… That’s perfect ! It means they are sneaky and capping without being catch !

Or we couldn’t see them because they weren’t being rendered :P

Fun tidbit, earlier today, near the zerg, my group (4 people) turned around and suddenly saw about 7 vizunah where we were just running. They were running away as if they hadn’t spotted us…

We ran through eachother without knowing we were there XD Gotta love culling.

Lol. Culling has its charm

Chiolas.1326:

BT players saying that they didn’t said that SFR is in T1 because of the bandwagoners when they actually said it:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k147/LTvball121/House-RunAway.gif

Just because some say it doesn’t mean the majority of the server agrees with them., that’s what I was trying to say, but apparently you missed the point. Unless you were replying to something else other than the last few posts before yours.

The gif is funny indeed, but I think it reflects not only BT, but pretty much every server. Because people in every server contradict eachother. And that’s normal, everyone has his/her own opinions. Again, because Player X from Server X has an opinion, it doesnt mean all of Server X share that opinion.

Chiolas.1326:

Centrix.4065:

Some random server gets some guilds and starts to rise and other random people will jump on the bandwagon for karma/map completion/whatever until the server hits #1.

SFR is not “some random server”. Please stop insulting all the people from SFR that worked and still work hard, we reached this tier because of them not because of randoms searching for easy wins. Besides, many of the guilds that joined are now integrated in the WvW community, not all people who join other servers are evil toddlers who want to join on the win train, some (and as SFR is a WvW server, many) are just looking for a challenge, that BT and VS are making (not the one we hoped but still…)

But saying that type of bs is allowed so please continue

I said “some random server” as in: it could’ve been any server. I never said SFR existed of only random “todlers looking for exp”. Stop acting like I insulted anyone, because I didn’t. Are you saying that it isn’t true guilds from Far Shiverpeaks joined Seafarer’s Rest? And that you know for a fact that other random players didn’t join?

I’d say you stop taking things out of context and insult other people by blaming them for stuff they didn’t say.

atai.1467:

Rednik.3809:

So i see SFR dominate only at nightcap field (or then BT was not play seriously at all). If this is their “primetime”, then sure, they beat us in primetime, lol.
P.S. Everyone who wans see real situation from BT POV – set your PC clock at UTC+4 (russian time), then refresh MOS graph. It’s really fun to see all those great SFR forum warriors starting to lead only after majority of BT players leave to sleep.

Like this weekend ? In any case we will see Friday the result (that kitten graph is from a different server SFR is a bit changed now).
Hope for you to do not be Kitten by forum warrior’s.

See you on Battlefield you can find me with OSC TAG

Just like Blacktide has changed? So what’s your point?

I think what the SFR egotrippers here are missing (not all players, just the egotrippers, calm down) is that we’ve seen this happen with other servers. It is most likely that what happened to Blacktide will in similar ways happen to SFR as well. Some random server gets some guilds and starts to rise and other random people will jump on the bandwagon for karma/map completion/whatever until the server hits #1.

At that point, people will start to leave the server. This is pretty much inevitable. Some players will get bored of “easy wins” or winning all the time and leave. We’re not saying that half of the players will leave bringing SFR back to T4 or whatever. No, I know SFR was already pretty strong before PRX joined and I’m sure most of the guilds that joined from FSP will stay, but people WILL leave. Just like they left Desolation and Blacktide “because they were OP and winning all the time”.

So let’s keep it real and stop pretending SFR (or any other server for that matter) is the ultimate power of WvW. It will only make you look like a kitten when what we’re saying actually happens. If it doesn’t, ok, but you still don’t have to go all American on us doing “WE’RE NUMBER 1!!!!” everytime someone posts their argument. What you post here will reflect onto everyone on your server. And this goes for the Blacktide and Vizunah posters as well.

vipeout.2485:

I’d love to see the result after a match with SFR as prepared as they are now with us being as willing to fight as we were at our first week in T1. Now we’re probably gonna get melted, maybe keep up second spot.

That would’ve been so great. I hoped more people would be active again this week since there is a new opponent, but I guess I was wrong….

Warlord.9074:

TY anet a lot of people have been asking for this. Ignore the QQers they are the ones who abused it. It required no skill to use btw and expert communication or whatever I hope that is a joke.

Or you’re one of the QQers that started QQing in the first place. I mean, if you’re really going to make a post like that we can go both ways.

I don’t see how putting a cap on portals will miraculously fix them or prevent people from “abusing” them… People will just use more mesmers. I can already think of tactics that are easier to execute with this cap and are probably even more annoying for the defending team.

aaron.7850:

It doesnt change anything.. the game sends the following data:
playerx: head: blue: shoulders: blue, coat: blue, pants: blue, shoes: blue.

now it will look like this
playerx: head: red, shoulders: blue, coat: green, pants: black, shoes: pink.

Did you really think arenanet would make culling worse if it the data would be bigger? This is not the case. RELAX PEOPLE, enjoy your colors!

And since when does your armor only have 1 color option?

I would imagine the info normally being just 1 color per piece (eg green) and now it being 2-3 per piece. That’s what I’m talking about.

I also think the culling wouldn’t be an issue if the color info wouldn’t be sent at all (unless you chose the option). If it’s a player from green-server, your game should just render it green, not be like “ok, green server… wait lemme download dye data… yeah… green…green….green… render now… ok next player”.

But then again, I don’t know that much about game development, so I don’t know if my analogy is correct

nechi.1753:

I thought the patch affects only downed state ?

I wish it would… But as far as I know: In-combat + alt-f4 = dead

Please, no ….

I don’t think it will work as intended, but we’ll see. ^^

Raven Paradox.1860:

It’s hire. Free bags and badges. :P Na but really… even if the legendary defenders are bugged… people should know those areas are off-limits. Not cool guys.

Why not? You’re invulnerable so it’s not like they can hurt you. They are the ones that can die.

Quite annoying… I was stuck in combat and I wanted to quit…

I’m also confused… does it also apply when a monster attacks you as you are logging off? Or does it only apply when you’re in combat with a player?

I know it was a temporary test solution thingie, but I prefered that… Even though I wouldn’t be able to see most of my allies, atleast I can see them on the minimap. And I rather not be able to see my allies than not being able to see my enemies… I mean… I don’t think I need to explain why.

Faunus.3647:

You lie dude : / maps were without BT
Comon that’s just a taunt , you know BT was so strong fews weeks ago , now you are all so tired Samethings are coming for sfr.

We wont give up , that’s our spirit. Even in trouble we stay up and fight harder.

Learn about it.

I don’t see anyone saying they’re tired and that’s why so many on the server are not playing anymore. Not that I know why, but I don’t claim to know things I actually don’t know. If it’s true they say they’re tired I’d like to see some reference.

And what exactly am I to learn here? To keep playing even when the score isn’t so good? I already explained to you I AM playing, and so are others. You’re talking to me as if I’m one of those people who aren’t playing. It’s like telling a mute person to stop talking.

“We wont give up , that’s our spirit. Even in trouble we stay up and fight harder.”

I wrote a reply to this… but decided to remove it. The irony and ego is unbelievable. Let’s just leave it at that.

Faunus.3647:

Centrix.4065:

Sird.4536:

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

They took SM as first. Looks interesting. Lets hope for 3 vs 3 proper battle now. Welcome to seafarer.

VcY have never failed to take SM after reset.

EB was chaos for 2 hours. VS Zerg was huge I couldn’t quite believe it. Did not see a lot of BT players though. SFR was working on taking BT keep with 5 golems when server went down. Looking forward to this matchup.

Don’t get intimidated by VS’ larger numbers. You can still wipe them with a little bit of coordination

Stop talk and act man , we are playing alone vs sfr for now

1. I was playing before the new build, so you have no right to tell me to “stop talk and act man”.
2. Can’t act if the launcher isn’t updating properly, can I?
3. Whether I am personally playing or not doesn’t matter. If the rest of the server isn’t, you can say “stop talk and act man” all you want, but it won’t change anything. Like I said in a previous post:

Centrix.4065:

Where are all the Blacktide guilds… I only see random pugs on EB and that’s it.

So just don’t

Sird.4536:

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

They took SM as first. Looks interesting. Lets hope for 3 vs 3 proper battle now. Welcome to seafarer.

VcY have never failed to take SM after reset.

EB was chaos for 2 hours. VS Zerg was huge I couldn’t quite believe it. Did not see a lot of BT players though. SFR was working on taking BT keep with 5 golems when server went down. Looking forward to this matchup.

Don’t get intimidated by VS’ larger numbers. You can still wipe them with a little bit of coordination

If youi choose for “none”, won’t that increase the culling problem? since you also have to retrieve their dyes?

I mean. it’s fun to have an option to turn it on/off, but….

Where are all the Blacktide guilds… I only see random pugs on EB and that’s it.

Ding ding ding

It has begun

I don’t know how they do it though. When I right click an enemies name I can only click report…

It happened to me as well. I was in a group with 2 others when randomly a dead vizunah square invader joined our party. unfortunately he couldn’t understand that we don’t speak french so after 15 minutes of “wtf” we kicked him

Rednik.3809:

suppenkasper.5371:

Vizunah Square, the only Server that was T1 from the start and now gets to Nr.1 again. This wont be repeatable, not by Blacktide not by any other Server that just got to the top because of WTJ.

I really do not understand what that message trying to say. No one else is able to take the top spot again, or what?

Just the usual bragging. Random guy thinks he’s the best. We have those people too. Just ignore them.

^ my point as well

If the enemy is spread out too much and half of them aren’t really attacking your group (especially if their first reaction is to back off) it’s not really a 10vs30-40. You usally wipe them by a chunk at a time. Not all at once.

Raege.1069:

@Same. I get the image you didn’t quite get what the scenario others were talking about was. Afaik no one said 10 vs 30 was a definite win if the 10 attacked head on and the 30 a) paid attention b) had +50% non pugs. Acctually, no one said 10 vs 30 was ever a definite win. But arguing that it NEVER happens is just ridiculous. Also yeah, sure, maybe some of the 10 vs 30 scenarios are acctually 27 vs 11 or w.e but that’s not such a huge difference is it.

Let’s say There’s 30 pugs attacking a keep gate. 10 organized people see them. Approx half of the 30 pugs are dead or downed by the time all of them have realized they’re under attack. At that point lets’ say there’s 17 pugs left. Now of those 17 pugs 7 are undergeared/underlvld and die in the next few seconds. There’s 10 left. Surprised pug of 10 vs 8-10 organized players who are heavily buffed (maybe some at 50% HP), who do you think wins? I’ve been in a plenty of fights like this, sometimes you win and sometimes you die. But it is NOT impossible.

Your math is flawed because you forget human thoughts ‘lag’, reaction speeds vary, the amount of CC in both teams vary and there’s always those zombie PUs who don’t pay too much attention to what’s happening around them.

I also think you forgot the amount of pugs that run away on first sight of the enemy :P We all have to agree here that this is quite an important factor when fighting against Vizunah pugs (even guilds, but no names are dropped)

I think mathematically Same might be correct, if the 2 groups were turtling. But those fighting conditions don’t occur as often anymore. Luring enemies into choking points or other tactics really help.

Come to think of it, we do often win while being heavily outnumbered. I just never care to count the amount of enemies.

But in the end it’s still a numbers game. It was never intended for you to win 1vs50 :P

Slamz.5376:

“Somewhat disagree.”

I think NPCs are an overlooked, under-appreciated aspect of wargaming. NPCs can be present 24/7 and can provide direction to a war that players may not be able to adequately do.

I love the Hyleks and the Ogres and the Dredge (I’d love the Quaggans if I didn’t hate water combat). That’s PvE done right and if anything I wish they were a little more sophisticated.

Where they go wrong are things like the centaurs or the giant grub — things that have nothing to do with WvW.

PvE can be an important part of WvW, but Arenanet needs to keep their eye on the ball. All NPCs should fulfill some role in WvW. Camps of NPCs that don’t contribute to the war should be removed or reworked.

I think he means the amount of random mobs in the world can be reduced, and to that I agree. I also agree with your statement, that the mobcamps need to be reworked

The breakout event reminds me of following some NPC around the map in PVE or dungeons.

Remember Magg everyone?

I doubt it’ll work as intended, but atleast it’s something… Gotta try it first before throwing Anet under the bus

Vukanigia.5496:

Far Shiverpeaks was a great place to play but at some point there was just a few guilds that had 7 days per week WvW coverage with 20+ people in raids.

Green fire left, Nugos left, Za Drots took a break while they were searching for new home and that was it…

Maloki, you are a true legend of Far Shiverpeaks for me and your loyalty is so epic but you have to understand that for most of us there is no such thing as server loyalty but only guild loyalty.

Dalzone [DZ] also moved with GF and Nug.

I kinda agree. In the beginning I was very fond of Far Shiverpeaks and actually thought I wouldn’t leave. But after a while the server broke. I wasn’t in Nugos yet when they moved. I went to Blacktide to join Nugos about 2 weeks after GF/Nug/DZ/etc moved.

There was nothing left for me on FSP. I play WvW 99% of the time (1% in queue or tradingpost etc) and the server couldn’t offer me enough to enjoy the game like I wanted to.

Sird.4536:

Just saw somewhere iin here that BT are taking a break or bored. How is it that a server in T1 sine launch continue to fight and a server in T1 for 3 weeks get bored?

Just wondering xD

Wondering the same thing. There is no reason to be bored… Yeah, if everyone leaves then it gets pretty boring, because you can’t do much. That in turn gives other people the reason not to play anymore. And so the circle continues.

But how can it be boring when we’re “losing”? There’s enough to do. Get your kitten in wvw.

vipeout.2485:

Or if the group of 10 only spammed aoe. Which is not what happens if you actually want to pull that off.

Or if the group was defending a tower and used siege lol

10vs30 wins happen very very rarely. You can tell me how good you are, but you’re not going to make me believe you 10vs30 frequently and win the fights most of the time. They really have to suck if your organized group of 10 kills them all.

Now, saying you won 20vs30-40 makes more sense. Especially if the 20 are organized and the 30-40 are not.