Guild Wars 2

If CORE did just transfer from IoJ to FA than they have more history with SBI than Mag and might enjoy thinking they forced us into gold league.

But now Mag is leading that matchup and has a higher PPT than SBI so they’ll retake 6 shortly on the predicted rankings during our worst coverage period. Its a nail biter!

Double post. Forum gave me error message ;_;

oooo.. Millenium has .9 pts between Mag and SBI. and 4.0 between SBI and FA. Will be interesting to see who gets 6th in the end.

Visirale.6097:

SBI please do better… Please? No one in silver league wants to go up against you. I know you all don’t want to steamroll every week for 7 weeks either. These leagues have been and will continue to be terrible ideas.

It doesn’t matter whether we or Mag end up in silver. Either server is going to streamroll the majority of the competition week in and week out.

Do we have another forum that I’m not allowed to see on SBI? 2 people express preference of silver: OMG! THEY"RE SO AFRAID OF GOLD@!!! QQ MOARI

We need a SBI Fanclub forum for these guys me thinks.

Shads.9468:

Any chances SoS could tank for the rest of the week please? I’d really like SBI to stay in gold

aka: help us get back out of gold.

next guild should be called Taco Takeout Squad

BP got the matchup I really wanted for SBI this week((((

Nikkinella.8254:

You guys in SBI on EB really need to be more thorough in your Mesmer sweeps. the same Mesmer kept hiding in the same spot every time you took valley, and kept porting us back in haha. Not that I care, more wxp for me every time we take it back.

Our EB crew usually doesn’t care about keeping stuff like that and won’t bother sweeping unless they really want to stick it to someone. Much like you get more WXP taking it back several times we get more WXP and ore reflipping it instead of actually holding it.

amhill.9640:

Besides, someone ALT-F4ing is called RAGELOGGING. It’s funny. It’s along the same vein as a player killing themselves by running off a cliff in a panic.

Most players that run off the cliff are trying to save money on repair costs in my experience.

garland.5193:

Sorry to necro my own thread, but RL reared its ugly head and I’ve been away from GW2. I come back to all this league business. Boy that changes things!

Best fights for 1000 gems? Something like 4th or so in Silver league?

Silver league is going to have a stacked IoJ who have gotten a lot of transfers and probably KN and YB although I understand they’ve lost some guilds. So you might have fun fights on HoD, DH, or NSP against some servers but expect to get rolled over and nightcapped by the top guys.

Maladon.5760:

Gravy.7589:

We were always a bit troll friendly on SBI, stop acting like its something different now. Care bears

Trolling is one thing, I’ve very pro-troll

This week however, we sound like BP 2.0 and it’s making us look every bit as egotistical and arrogant as they are. We’re fighting against two servers who are outnumbered and have no chance of winning the match. SBI, of all servers, should understand what that’s like. Yet here we are..

Its an interesting week as I think a lot of the DR transfers were out for blood against IoJ after that matchup two weeks ago in which IoJ won by 250k pts. And only a few weeks before that, they had several matchups much closer so there is history.

Now we need rematches with SoS and CD next week. Then maybe Mag and CD for all the SBI oldtimers.

Markan.3460:

Draygo.9473:

I think SBI will probably pass yaks bend in the rankings before October, but what do I know?

Given the structure of the league thy would be fools to do it! If they stay down they will get some even matches and a prize. If they get up to 12 then it’s 7 weeks of being rolled over, no server prize and likely often a struggle to get out of the spawn for long enough to achieve any personal reward goals.

Usually don’t comment on other matchups but since you’re talking about us…

We don’t want to be in the silver league. We faced you guys just before a large guild transferred over which resulted in us rolling over BP. We’re right now in a boring matchup with IoJ and NSP and the only 2 servers above them are KN and DH. Both of which we have had good matchups with (both lost and won) before the massive transfers.
We’ll have far more even matchups with SoS, Mag, CD, and maybe eBay along with whoever ends up in gold league between YB and BP. So that’s at least 5 competitive servers compared to possibly 2. Probably win a league with boring matchups 6 weeks out of 7 or lose in some exciting matchups where we get nightcapped most weeks and maybe spawn camped 2-3 weeks.

I saluted one of the NSP commanders on EB last night. But it was after he had died pushing into our zerg with no one backing him up.

styx.7294:

Edit: Though is Stormbluff Isle ends up in the silver league, it’s probably going to be very boring for them is what I think.

Yes, it will. We’re hoping RNG favors us in the upcoming weeks and we end up in Gold league even if that means we’re the ones getting destroyed several weeks in a row.
We have people and we do see queues now during primetime though not as long as some people will have you think. But we’ll see what happens when we face a server like SoR or BG and the fairweathers go back to PvEing.

Since you didn’t list playtime, I will warn we are thin on overnight/morning coverage. We have some dedicated NA players that do all nighters but will likely lose any match against a server with true Oceanic coverage.

Kuzletti.9175:

This is my first time reading one of our matchup threads (I’m from SBI), and lemme tell you: you guys complaining about our zergs splitting up to chase small groups/loners should be glad for it, because that kind of behavior only harms us (and make us look like cowards (which is accurate for a lot of players here)).

Running off to chase people does nothing but alert the enemy even more of our zerg movement, weaken the group as a whole and make you look like complete wusses.

I’ve seen groups of about 30 people headed to an objective lose half of the group on the way because of sentries/ganking opportunities. Short attention span FTW!

PS: I need IoJ’s hills vista to get my 100% world completion, give it up already. >:|

But.. squirrels

But this week is a great time to lvl my necro.

Johje Holan.4607:

What they need to do is spam WvW info in PvE.

Swords on Hills!
Gari watergate just went down!

Buffy.9246:

Mickz.8356:

Man, BP really don’t like losing to SBI do they?
Blaming it on transfers? Grow up. All servers get transfers, look at the amount of transfers BP have gotten over the past months.
BP, you could have came back, or at least gave us a challenge with the numbers you are able to field, but you choose not to then complain on the forums.
And yes, Buffy, its so kittening obvious we are going to target BP this match up because you are the biggest threat to us, use some common sense instead of making yourself look like a kitten on the forums.

Other than that, good job this week SBI, DDLG are proud to be here.

I do not care if we lose. But the way sbi are acting is immature and childish. Last time it was sbi vs bp. Bp won fair and square cause you guys focused on sm too much. Now that you have gotten alot of guilds to transfer, your winning and think your high and mighty till you face maguuma and dragonbrand and lose badly. Then your transfers will leave ya. It is about guilds cause you guys were always terrible before this week. I am using common sense make sure you are cause what I said is true and people know it.

Weren’t you on NSP two months ago?

Its better than the last time we started out with the 20k lead after the weekend. They had a thread saying the only reason we were winning was because we were cheating.
When they win its because of skillz. When others do its cheating or numbers.

And I guess patch day didn’t work out as well for BP has they had hoped.

MartyPartys.9187:

Wrong, siege ruins wvw. Omega golems just speed up the process of making a borderland clean to fight in without anyone running behind their walls.

Last week, only once did we have an actual fight with the group that did an omega rush. And that was only because they decided to hold Bay and built 6+ Superior ACs.
Normally they just ported off the map and went somewhere else for an hour or two hoping everyone that went to defend the other keeps leaves by the time they come back to paper another one.
Not a single clean open field fight.

DevonCarver.5370:

Your reward will be based on the server you log into the first time once the season starts. You can transfer as much as you like, but you will still get the reward from that first server.

This works in theory except that fact that I will know before the first day of the season who will be ranks 1-3 and 13-15 so transfers will just occur the week before instead of once it starts if individual server performance will be the soul means to win a league since 2v1 against a stronger server rarely works in reality.

Forget leagues. Create teams. Scrap servers 25-27 in Europe since the bottom 4-5 servers there are too small anyway.
24 servers. Split into 3 teams.

Team 1: 1,6,7,12,13,18,19,24
Team 2: 2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23
Team 3: 3,4,9,10,15,16,21,22

Team wins week based on overall wins for each matchup over a certain number of weeks. That way it matters how well the rank 24 server does to rank 1. Maybe servers with hour long queues will transfer players to lower ones to help their team instead of transferring to stack up on ranks 1-3 and 13-15 just before the start. Anet still gets their transfer money (does anyone not pay with gold?) and it actually matters how well you do no matter your rank.
After the first “tournament” change teams based on the new rankings.
Obviously there would still be issues such as, how matchups are decided. Go back to boring “same matchup for several months” or allow randomness where team that wins is whoever gets the lucky RNG.

If they don’t want so many servers to win maybe go with 6 teams.
Team 1: 1,12,13,24
Team 2: 2,11,14,23
Team 3: 3,10,15,22
Team 4: 4,9,15,21
Team 5: 5,8,17,20
Team 6: 6,7,18,19

Make it so you only face servers 1-6, 7-12, 13-18,19-24 over the period. This still creates awful matchups since how unbalanced certain lvls are such as 6&5 vs 1-4 but anything is better than the two leagues of 12 servers individually attempting to win a tournament.

So much salt.
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PvD is fun now?

Yes. 1 green dot in a tower with closed gate running up the stairs obviously means he was furiously repairing a gate while the entire YB zerg was already inside. Makes perfect sense.

Unless there’s other screens showing better proof, we’ll have to agree to disagree. Those 2 spots are easily clickable in full screen mode on my 23" monitor and there’s nothing showing exactly where the AC was placed.

And no, I wasn’t part of that group. At work bored.

Riondron.1069:

@Maladon.
feel free to justify it however you want. ac’s are not supposed to be able to target past a wall, unless you play in windowed mode, and adjust the size of the window (which is not part of the games intentional design). oh and thanks for speaking up. now we know who did it……

There’s a giant space right above the gate below the wall that gives you clear view of the ground. You don’t need line of sight with the AC. just a clickable spot within range of the ac.

Riondron.1069:

HEY SBI!! Resorting to cheating now to take our bay in NSP bl? Zoom glitch much? Lousy, rotten, cheating, bunch of…….

>_>
You know there’s a large open space right above the gate?

Art.9820:

Now you should learn something and actually include your failures but I guess you gotta eat, ego ego ego ego nomnomnom

Why do that when he can post all those awesome 2v1 wins against uplevels?

Its a combination of several things really.

Those with lvl 80s are rarely on a map for longer than it takes to kill a champ or complete a daily achievement. Since the release of the API, there’s no more hanging out waiting for Jormag or Maw for up to an hour. Outside of LA, this was where I saw the most map chatting going on. LA is the only place I still see chatting on a regular basis (on SBI).

Any guild or server events on a particular map usually use TS or some other VoIP server to chat and anyone replying to them is likely using the team, say, or guild chat so as not to spam the map chat with replies that don’t make sense.

My main guild has been doing Wednesday night champ runs where a map gets selected, and we spend 2 hrs killing all the champs/doing events. There is a lot of chatting but none of it is in map chat.

Fixed: stupid overzealous filter.

Obviously, a representative from KN needs to ref/take video so we have an impartial judge

Renxian.6982:

bhagwad.4281:

Renxian.6982:

I wish the JP didn’t give out BoH. Make all the PVE players earn the Gift of Battle through….ya know..battle.

Here’s the problem with getting badges through battle. Zerging takes no skill and is mind numbingly boring. If you want to be skilful, you need to solo roam and kill people.

It takes me 5-10 minutes of roaming to find someone to kill. Then when I kill them I get a badge only around once every 3-4 kills. So my badge acquisition rate is around 2-4 badges per hour. I would need at least 100 hours to get all my badges and getting nothing else in the process.

That’s pretty pathetic. And once again – I’ve tried zerging in organized groups via teamspeak. It’s just lame. “Stack on me. 3…2…1…go”. Now taking this tower. Now that. Just throw around AoEs and hope you hit something.

Yuk.

I’ve gathered roughly 2000 badges in the last two months doing primarily solo roaming, scouting, and camp flipping.

He’s probably never flipped a camp since its not 1v1.

frostshade.3617:

You could leave a stacked server

It happens on middle tier servers too. CD isn’t a stacked server last I checked.

Of course, since the last patch, I get lag if there’s even 1 other person in my area so I’m avoiding EB altogether.

They didn’t hack. its a bug/glitch with the keep gates on EB that started immediately following the 6/25 patch. Multiple servers have experienced it. The issue is with those taking advantage of the glitch.

Exitius.1605:

Bannok.3152:

Due to the amount of accusations flying about between SBI and BP, I will decree a solution. Clearly, we need to petition to have ANET remove entry into all towers and structures for the remainder of the week, AND temporary removal of all doors/gates in Stonemist. Then we can happily play (kick the kitten) out of each other for the remainder of the week.

Anyone who needs to exploit to get more points in a meaningless score is, well, pathetic. REGARDLESS of server. Seriously though, lock all towers pls anet 0;>

I honestly believe the people truly taking advantage of it are a very small minority (and not exclusive to one server) but since BP has been losing the recent match up, a few of their forum posters are using it as an excuse. Fortunately even that group of people is a minority and as we’ve seen there are BP players on here with common sense and good sportsmanship not looking for some excuse.

I thought BP was loosing because they were throwing this match.

Straegen.2938:

Radioactive.1248:

It’s not even cheating. People aren’t going through the gate on purpose, they get through on accident and are killed trying to go back to the proper side of the gate as the photos show. There were people from BP and SBI doing this and it was clearly unintentional. You are amusingly mindless, why would someone ever be banned for being teleported to the other side of the gate for doing nothing other than standard PvD activity.

Is this something recent maybe with the latest patch? Having played EBay for months I never saw this. Just this week I have personally witnessed it about 5 times (with 12 or so players). The players when glitched seem to act a bit surprised so it looks honest enough but strange I haven’t seen NSP glitch through and haven’t heard anyone from BP glitching through. Do higher tier servers suffer from this problem at almost every zerg keep attack?

Yes, it seemed to start last week immediately following the patch. Someone from SBI started a thread in the Game Bugs the first time it happened to any of us. Have yet to glitch myself but I’ve usually only been on when we’re defending and not taking it.
And I posted a screenshot on the last page of several BP that had glitched through the door.

I can post screenshots too. This doesn’t include the ranger who got inside, ran up the stairs and instead of jumping out, went to the back wall to knock me off my AC.

Since most of your guys ran back over the wall, I didn’t cry foul.

And the glitch I witnessed was in the spot where there are those 2 doors one after the other. The first was down and people kept coming through the doorway without the door portal. I witnessed at least 20 go through the door while we were defending it. Many died and most of those that didn’t went back over the wall but there were 4-5 who didn’t die right away and tried to take out our siege.

anzenketh.3759:

That would be a feat considering I think the cap is close to 100 right now for a map.

The hax crying will be epic.

Justice forgot to include the group of 50 AR flipping camps on BP.

Jyeoi.6027:

From what I’ve learnt most people tend to overestimate numbers. Here’s a trick I do. When my eyez tell me it’s 20 just minus 10 and you have a more accurate estimation.

Also if there’s no more boob touching I’m not coming back here again /yawn.

I love when people post a screenshot of a some supposedly huge zerg where I count 10-15 + a bunch of pets and illusions.
Tonight we’ll make sure to stop by with 20 omegas and 200 people.

dunnberry.2964:

No I did not forget you were tier 1…also to my knowledge it seems many many more left IOJ when they dropped though yes you losing WM was a huge hit and those others I don’t know, but you still have massive amounts of players many times a day…actually long long long time ago NSP was a super powerhouse(see pre week long matches)..though I wasn’t referring that I was referring to servers that have a very PVE focused population who really vanish a lot more than SBI has during these events…also yes glicko was and still is crap, but you weren’t his as bad as HOD or ET by any margin…yes PVX would be a better term thank you

You mean like you guys ticking over 450 right now?

dunnberry.2964:

This “we are a PVE server” kitten is getting kinda old, if SBI was that much a PvE server than they woulda dropped a lot farther down, see GOM, NSP, IOJ for examples

A lot further down? The server dropped 3 tiers in 5 weeks after everyone transferred out. It had been tier 1 for 14 weeks before that. IoJ was tier 1 once early on. GOM has never been above rank12. NSP never above rank 13.
How fast did you expect us to drop with the old system? It took SoS and CD teaming up against us to finally drop us below EBay before the system change.

Gravy.7589:

If they are going to Dragonbrand, its a terrible choice, imo. That server is a mess. Mass of numbers and a community in turmoil. Do your research ALS, before you take you’re people there. Many who transferred there have left over the past two weeks.

Pretty much. Though since tiers don’t really exist, I’ll just say server ranks 4-7 seems to be one of the worst places for mismatched fights on a weekly basis and probably the cause of some of that turmoil in DB. Far better off looking lower and balancing some server needing more NA coverage (as I think thats when you guys are mostly on).

anzenketh.3759:

Close match for SBI and BP. I wonder who will win.

Today’s new dungeon.

Dio.2394:

Maladon.5760:

Dio.2394:

Maladon.5760:

Dio.2394:

Maladon.5760:

Aeros.2046:

Maladon.5760:

BP definitely has the trolling down. I’m not saying they could compete with Maguuma but they’re getting there.

ps – LOL at night capping brag…but hey, you got some people to respond, kudos!

We just capped your bay at 3 PM Server time. Not sure what the point is here.

Playing a video game at 3pm on a summer weekend doesn’t really have a point…but by all means, enjoy the bay.

Perhaps you could provide us with a time window when you consider legitimate if you are beaten given that 10pm on Friday and 3pm on Sat are apparently SBI down times, perhaps 7:18-7:27 on Wed would work or does that conflict with Zumba class?

Can’t say what I was doing at 10pm on Friday (probably just finishing dinner to be honest) but I do know that around 11pm we were wiping the floor with you guys (repeatedly) in EB and ticking 300…

So the folks on SBI that are claiming everyone had gone to bed and you were outmanned are full of it then?

We do, in fact, go to bed here on SBI. It usually happens when we’re tired of picking up loot bags. After NA primetime it’s not uncommon to have the outmanned buff here on SBI. Since I play during NA primetime I don’t have to deal with that circumstance very often.

However, I doubt anyone has said we were outmanned in EB during NA primetime. I don’t doubt for a second that we were outmanned on any other map at any time of the day, that’s just the way it goes around here.

By the way, do you have to have a giant stick up your kitten to play on BP or is that just a suggestion?

Two things:
1) People were complaining earlier in this thread that 10pm-midnight on Friday night was too late for you guys. Doesn’t really matter if it was in EB or not. If we are in your home BL and you cry that we took some objective (hills, bay, w/e) because it was too late and you were outmanned, but you have a decent number in said BL and a ginormous amount of people in EB, then the problem is not that it is too late and BP night caps, the problem is you can’t get people to move from EB to defend your BL.

2) There is no size requirement on the stick, but you do have to know how to move it properly.

Also, I apologize for the length of the last sentence in point 1), I am apparently channeling John Stuart Mill.

Were people complaining about 10pm? Because the screenshots I was seeing had 4am on them. And if that’s 10pm server time, I’d like to know what the weather is like in Greenland. Do they even have summers?

airstu.2579:

I will give props to AR this week. I admit it, you proved me wrong. I sincerely apologize for ever claiming you play for second place.

Gz on 3rd.

Well at least they can learn a lot from Lost. If you can’t win 1st, move to another server.

Gravy.7589:

Oh and I almost forgot to post this, [Lost] guild got rolled so many times on our BL’s last night before the big hills push, by puggles. Aren’t they suppose to be like……good? lol :P. I have screenies of them running away from us, to no avail, got stomped. Will post em later, for giggles, when I am home from work. For all the crap they talk, I can’t say I have been impressed seeing them in action.

I’m sure they’ll say you outnumbered them 50-1.

tsubus.8761:

I just thought that it would be great if they included this in the API, so that we could easily check number of players, number of players in wvw, queues in wvw, etc.

While it would be great to get historical data for the previous week regularly, API pushed current data seems like a bad idea. They’re removing outmanned from being visible to enemies and data like that in the API would be an even easier way to see someone is outmanned and by exactly how much.

I actually spent all last night in EB because our BL commanders this week seem to be new guys who don’t know what they’re doing. On Monday, they focused on an outmanned AR group at their spawn point instead of going after BP in the SW tower trebbing bay or letting AR go after the tower since they had already started the siegerazer event. We lost bay about 20m later that night and most of the rest of the map shortly after.
I had fun with a moderate sized “zerg” in EB that managed to take out a large BP group with equal numbers and then successfully fend off another large AR group hoping to catch us off guard in the open field north of Anzalias Pass. And BP had a commander back at a sentry on the other side out of the action before AR showed. He then tried to run off when two of us spotted him. I hope he wasn’t the main groups commander if he’s not willing to lead them into the battle.

If IoJ has been playing to win the entire time, I think this matchup would have been even closer. Heck, next time SBI matches up with either of you guys, we won’t even have the PvE pop weekend rush to finish the map helping us out of the gate. Of course, I think AR pulling ahead of us also woke some of the casual WvWers that this was not going to be an easy win for us and pulled them away from Dragonbash (helps that so far its pretty boring).
Hope we get to face either AR or IoJ again sometime soon.