Guild Wars 2

Right now the best 1 v 1 builds consists of taking Pirate runes and having turrets or other NPC items do the dmg for you while you survive with anti condi/dps builds.

Is that good game design? Discuss. If played and placed right, these NPC’s don’t die to firefield and can be healed, just clear that out. And it’s only warriors who has the fire field in that case.

Totally agree, Frae…

Yes… rank 55. What. A. Joke.

Every baddie out there is rank 55. This is a joke. Spend 3000 hours in pvp to see sky hammer ppl and imactive players get dragon finisherm once again pve win again and the majority of noobs on this forum. Im rank 64 and dont even want a dragon finisher or anything.. this is pathetic.. sry for typohs, typing from my phone

Lordrosicky.5813:

So that’s why you never kill the enemy treb. Great now I know.

Why don’t you just go power necro and kill it for me, bruv.

Holesale.2640:

RaZaC.1963:

Me and Mouby main engineer…
play the game before you start posting on the forums.

Ive played enough pvp in the pass 2-3 months to notice how the meta hasn’t changed much.
which is why I stopped in the first place.

Mouby.7096:

Regarding the fact you’re not even listed on a single leaderboard it’s kinda obv why you’re thinking to know viable rifle builds.

Another reason why i stopped, id always get paired up with teammates who cared more about their place on the leader boards be it random groups or a group of very organized guildies at the end of the day they all cared more about where they were on the leader board than having an enjoyable experience and.

While ranking are cool and all yes..I value having fun in the game more than how far up I am on the leader boards the latter is just a bonus and should be treated as such.

Also..News Flash.. this game doesn’t have much in the way of variety skill/trait wise. So its even easier to figure out what is “Viable or not” so I fail to see how my place on the leader board has anything to do with how much I know about a profession Ive put time into.

And before you get offended im not saying im better than you or your friend because obviously you play PvP more than me and im not on the leader board so my point of view on the subject of PvP is irrelevant.

Just, no Discuss the topic, and stop being a complete loser that cares for your own satisfaction of your small hobby. Why are you even on the forum. @holesale

Sure you have, Dustin… (y) ’merica, world rank 1, also in EU. Pro-tip.. The 1 v 1 server is not EU top.

Hey Guys. I don’t know what kind of sound option you tend to play with, but I play without it. I play without sound because I feel like it interupts my gameplay. However, fighting on khylo, sometimes has it disadvantages, or when a thief dies in stealth and me not being able to hear his “shout for assistance” so I know he’s dead, so it becomes a guessing game (on khylo I count, or simply look slightly up.. yes I know, that’s weird). For me it, it’s never been a big issue, but it is a disadvantage. I tend to fire field in the area I believe the thief has died.

Anyways.. I want to play with sound, but I try to minimize it, just the dialog, which is, imo, the only thing needed. I look very closely on the characters I play against, and effect sounds wont change the way I play.

I tried out the dialog only option, but playing a warrior, the character talks whenever his adreneline goes 1 bar up, which is like ALL the time, and annoying, frustrating etc.. In other words, it distracts my gameplay.

Would it be too much to be able to control the dialog, or simply make an option which only focused on needed dialog such as downstate?

I know I am a bit alone when talking this subject, but to reach a meta level of PvP-settings, I guess it’s not too much to ask? Too much dialog ruins the important dialog.

I was sort of predicting Tormented weapons to appear in GW2, since GW1 weapons outshined all designs of GW2 so far. A shame they ruined the cool looks from GW1 and made an inferior looking version of them.

To elaborate a bit more, GW1 had fine and straight lines, even a bit of an edgy design. The hammer the axe, they were sharp, back then. The hammers’ cool head is missing. A terrible attemp on creating a tormented mace shows the lack of understand for the actual design of the tormented weapons, making them bubbly. Everything that shines isn’t aesthetic. GW2 has a terrible design compared to GW1 designers.

Discuss

Fraelin.7409:

With no New game modes coming in January 2014 no rewards coming in December / February and No balance patch coming in March [CM] have decided enough is enough.

Anets lack of updates in pvp means that it is no longer possible to motivate a team to play with no rewards, goals and no new content to look forward to. [CM] is not the first team to stop playing Gw2 due to lack of updates in Spvp and I wonder how long will it be before the rest of the ‘higher’ tier teams will follow?

Anet have created an extremely great game with so much potential but all of it recently is ruined by keeping secrets. Why can’t you just tell us what we are getting and when so that we all aren’t just wasting our time on hoping and not receiving?

Gl Gw2.

~Fraelina

I bet you’re making a Phd, Frae. However, I’ll still be your lover, no matter what choice you make in life. You flea bagger.

Dee Jay.2460:

Ok, I’ve rellay had the worst of PvP afternoons again because of the same old bullkitten.

And I’ve just about had it.

9 consecutive losses now because of the same bullcrap. And I mostly blame Thieves.

Unless you have a decap Engi or are on Voice-Com/have some other refined strategy there is exactly one viable way to open the game.

And that’s 1 guy close (preferably something fairly tanky and good at 1v1).
The rest goes Mid, asap.

That includes Thieves and any other class that insists they are some sort of 1v1 hero and absolutely must push far.

Why?

Because let’s assume you do actually manage to take our their fairly bunkerish far point holder (which should take a minute or so).

In the mean time your friends are fighting 3vs.4 at mid and probably losing. They get killed off 1 by 1, giving your enemies 5 points each and forcing them to respawn. Now the situation cascades as your allies run back to mid (or wherever the action is) to a point camped by 3 players…and again get zerged down (because who waits for their allies to respawn in Pugs?)

Meanwhile the 4 enemies who got mid will probably have dispatched someone to assist far and kill whoever is left there.

And at that point you’re probably already 100 points behind and the enemy is sitting on two points and has an easy time shifting from one point to anther.

There you go, your inflated ego that caused you to push far point has lost your team the game. You should be proud.

Now this doesn’t mean never push far point. There are plenty of good reasons to do so. Just don’t do it on the opener when it will cost your team both mid-point and 3 lives and gain nothing.

3v4? If you can’t survive long enough before a potential close point holder on your team has gotten on mid to 4 v 4, the team isnt worth playing in. I push far or close point mainly, because I will win all the 1 v 1’s, atleast in solo q. I’m sorry if someone goes out and suicide instantly. (:

Nice post, MTC. Very relevant and, apparantly, very controversial among low tier PvP players. This is obviously the most OP dps build at the moment (Maybe of all time? Since thieves always had some broken ability, this one might be the most broken?), and if one lacks the ability to decipher this statement, they’re simply in denial. This is the build which, once more, puts necros out of play, adding, once more, once more, once mo…

I wish a had better arguments, but it would end in me spamming caps lock, calling everyone, pro this build, idiots, because that’s what this build represents, and the creators of it (Anet).

Fraelin.7409:

Wow.

Sound mate. Your dishonorable is in my pic as well, haha..

Celtus.8456:

Hi Chukree, I think we played together a bit in Gw1 random arena. Strange finally finding you in Gw2 in your goodbye thread. Well, happy travels wherever you go.

Yes, Chu Kree Phar. Haha

Hey guys, aparantly GW2 censors my skype and FB, you’ll have to PM me in here if you want contact. Thx for the salutes, enjoyed playing with you guys as well. I will most likely join some other game since I have a huge addiction when it comes to computers, keeping the same name, and same stream.

Leaving GW2. I destroyed the community, the community destroyed me. Like plenty of people, I find GW PvP inchangeable.

If you need to contact me, my skype is ********, Facebook: ******** ********.

Best of luck to anyone I’d had a beef with. Apologize to everyone I spoke rudely to.

1 year of raging is enough. To everyone I played with and against, hope you’ll keep improving, and making the game and community a better place to be in. Phd in stomponomics

Anyone up for making a skype group call, discussing optional rewards between top 100’s and then post it here and different forums to make awareness? It’s a serious issue. Can we get sponsors or anything alike? Any suggestions welcome. We need a serious fora for this now. We have to put “balances” away for a bit of time, due to the real cause of people abandoning, the reward system.

As a comment to all this, Jon Peters and co., I have to quote directly from the declaration of independence, to make it clear how the PvP community feels. This is no offense.

“Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

All yours, PHD.

Spot on man. Well said. – Phd
Though I whined forever….!

Spirit rangers will get a pet called Jon Peters which is a huge hybrid between a demon that spits fire and Jon Peters’ face. It cast the ele spell Dragon Tooth on replay, and it’s perma invulnerable.

Further, a new condition will, once again, be added to the necro spike. It’s called skyhammer-lock-down-butt-kitten d. And it dmges as much as your character dies twice and has 30 sec respawn. And it is an aoe fear too.

The skyhammer will deal 1 million dmg but will be evadeable, but only on evade thieves and rangers. And The sky hammer hits the whole map, even the shooter.

Thieves will get infinite stealth as well as infinite evade.. oh wait. they alrdy have that..How about making the spam dmg more op? 2 000~dmg on skill 3…alrdy sipping a beer in advance

Everyone plays asura, so you can’t really argue that the animations differs. Just make them a bit bigger. I like that you have to predict when you play. I play asura myself, and I fight asuras.. relativly top 100.. but it’s something everyone can relate to, hiding your hits. Sometimes I think it’s too obvious on the other classes.

PS Just fix it.. for the sake of everyone who cares for PvP.

CHAAAAAAAAAAAANGE IT. YOU CAN’T PLAY WITHOUT IT!! AMATEURS!

You really need a “#¤”#%% advice? Stop blowing your chances of becoming esport by making a map that is useless and don’t have the ability to move with the character. Get your !! together. This censorship is made by kids

sincerely

A guy who played more pvp than the whole anet team combined.

Hey I know this might been posted but you disabled the way people was running with the minimap. It’s really horrible the new map in general. You cant see anything, but the BIGGEST issue is that one dont know whats happening at all because the character was moving with the map, before. Now the ability to move the map with your character doesnt exist. Fix it. The Map is useless atm, EVEN after this new “fix” or whatever it did. I’d rather look on the icons at the top to see what’s going on..

Anyone agree? The map was soo fine.. It’s really the worst update so far. And no.. It’s not like facebook updates where you get used to it. This is the worst.

It sure is a waste. Rank 50 is something. Takes time somewhat. Rank 200 atm leader boards. But tbh if they can’t make the warrior viable i dunno whats up.. I installed it twice cuz ppl talk me into joining again… It’s lame. Warriors need serious dmg now. cuz they don’t have any. 100b isnt dmg to be fair.. warriors deal no condis or remove boons. Regular hits should be masive. And they should seperate PvP and PvE skills like in GW1 and buff the warrior in pvp so it wont be OP in pve.

Why is it that anet keeps ignoring warriorss weakness as a melee in this game. Time after time. New traits are complete useless, the dmg is low. You can’t land 100bs anymore. I dont get it. Condi AoE stronger than ever. What is it anet has against warriors. Prove me wrong with a viable warrior setup on top 200 play. Else don’t come with warrior pve responses. Deleted this game twice because it got so frustrating playing the warrior in pvp. Rank 50 pvp. top 200-400.

Consider hgh engi damage in team fight. Anet talked about nerfing aoe.. Same with Shatter mesmer.. Isn’t it too high?.. Buff single target classes or nerf aoe…Hgh is too high dmg 25 stack aoe 24/7 and high survivability…!!!!1 infraction points pls!!! anet.. u so good at it.. L—::!!! :——-)

If you go power 20, arms 25, in your warrior traits you get bezerkers might 12% when full adreneline, 10% on great sword.

arms 25, is 10% against bleeding foes.

why use 30 traits in discipline and lose 10% dmg? + power or crit chance too, for the new trait that gives 3% dmg per boon?

Think twice , and fix it fast please.

Engi’s can throw nades over their shoulders, why can’t warrior bladetrail. If Anet was running for GWpresident, i wouldn’t vote for their party.

Asomal.6453:

Daaamn, you really hate bladetrail, don’t ya?

I liked bladetrail untill it got nerfed for no reason l-:

Sniff sniff.. what’s that? Oh it’s WoW players on GW forums.

ninja.4139:

Not funny or productive.

Don’t comment if you don’t have any better suggestions. I’m not trying to be funny. I’m more serious than Anet atm.

just saw new warrior traits which can’t be used at all cuz’ they require too many traits.

I think heart seeker needs a buff. Why not make the leaps 900 range instead of 450, so you’ll fly around the map like a brain dead. Why not?
Ride the lightning also needs to get back to 10 sec against and invul on that one please. Rangers need more evades/leaps, maybe give them another skill slot so you’ll have constant dodges while your pet attacks so you’ll leave the ranger skills out completely, so that it’s only up to the pet, why not. (atm its 95% pet skill, make it 100%)

Make frenzy haste 25% and dmg income 75% so you’re 100% that you die if you dare to use the warrior utility. I mean why not.

Cantrips need 50% skill recharge, it’s not spamable like Hundred blade. To make it equal to a full warrior 100b make cantrips 6 sec recharge. Eles also need heavy armor. To counter if someone hits them and they used their 5 CC’s.

Make shatter aoe dmg twice as much as hundred blade, not only a little more than hundred blade (which it is now) in aoe, but why not make it a little stronger maybe 1 shot every with bezerker amulet. Also make timewarp last more than 10 sec. 10 sec of 2x dmg for 10 sec isn’t good… I mean frenzy is 5 sec and it’s so strong. And cool down on timewarp can’t be used in every team fight. Make it stronger. 20 sec duration, 100 sec cool down. Then thieves can leap out of combat with 900 range leaps with heart seeker. Please listen to my balance patch..

Oh.. I almost forgot, nerf blade trail more so u can’t aim at people with it, and you have to stand right infront of the enemy, and if your direction of the skill isnt 100% accurate, then make it recharge 300 seconds. And also banners need nerf again, im sorry. They’re too op. The many buffs they give are insane.

Oh.. I almost forgot, nerf blade trail more so u can’t aim at people with it, and you have to stand right infront of the enemy, and if your direction of the skill isnt 100% accurate, then make it recharge 300 seconds. And also banners need nerf again, im sorry. They’re too op. The many buffs they give are insane.Pls feedback. Don’t give me infraction points or whatever you call them.

Oh.. I almost forgot, nerf blade trail more so u can’t aim at people with it, and you have to stand right infront of the enemy, and if your direction of the skill isnt 100% accurate, then make it recharge 300 seconds. And also banners need nerf again, im sorry. They’re too op. The many buffs they give are insane.Pls feedback. Don’t give me infraction points or whatever you call them.#Phdinstomponomics

More warrior talk next time. ~ Phd

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Well it’s pretty hard for an ele against ranger/engi due to heavy imobilize and constant conditions.

It’s 1 v 1 solo ele on point etc. Doesn’t mean much in a game.

Not to be elitist or something. But I mainly only want to hear top PvP comments, if that’s possible. Some of you just got out of WvW with your lvl 40, it’s not what I’m looking for.

Once again, 3-5 ele teams are appearing. Is it okay?
Ele’s are still op, and they’re even stronger together, for more group heal. Is it fair that eles have the highest dps as dps. Highest sustain as bunker/ Mobility, condition cure, healing, stun, boons. Is it fair? Or am I once again missing something.

I’d like to see some ele giving his view. I’m aware theyre not op if it’s 3 eles vs 3 eles. But taking into perspective of any other setup. Please, defend or admit.

(I’m talking pvp top 100~ now. I’m aware that some guy ranked 24 playing an ele, once got 1 hitted by a 100 blade in a tpvp solo q. If you’re that guy, please delete your comment again, thanks.)

Spot on. I did everything to be viable as a warrior. 1000 hours on my warrior in PvP, completely destroyed. And it’s not just quickness nerf. It’s also bladetrail nerf, which was one of the better skills. Maybe you’ll be able to adapt playing without it fully functional (not that i see why it should be nerfed in the first place) but you’ll never be able to adapt playing without quickness. Weapons just don’t attack fast enough. When you have no healing you need to be very lethal to survive.

After ele nerf, they’re more viable.

Review my topic. Instead of creating new ones.

Yerffejy.6538:

Opynn.2936:

cut out, but wanted you to know I was responding to you

I like how in all your examples (While comical), you relied on a single skill. It failed, and so did you. While this may not be the utter truth in the battles, it sheds some light.

The main reason why warrior feels so underpowered is that people know your class. Warrior has been played to death. And everyone knows how to play against you, because they have fought the likes of you before. Warriors don’t have any “Tricks up their sleeves,” but they aren’t supposed to. At the release, warriors were considered so strong because no one knew how to fight you, they didn’t know the skill chains, and they died. Now, everyone knows.

I think the issue is the lack of creativity in the fights. You seem underpowered, because people know what you are going to do. And I think that point was high-lighted by your comic-relief. Where you relied on your one skill, and when that didn’t work, because everyone and their grandmother knows you rely on that skill, you didn’t fare well. A GS warrior fails because everyone is just waiting for the HB to come, and they pop whatever defensive skill they have and then win the fight because that was the warriors only card.

I think, for awhile, warriors seemed so strong, and everyone felt strong running them. They were unstoppable, but now that people know what to expect, warriors can no longer rely on their 1-skill to do all the work. (HB, Earthshaker, etc.)

Now, suddenly, a warrior needs skill to thrive. And that is a whole new ballgame. People who ran HB for so long, suddenly find themselves never being able to use the skill, and suddenly warrior is “underpowered” because what worked months ago, people easily countered.

Same thing happened with my condition necro. No one had really faced them (necros in general) and I was dominating people because they had no idea what to expect. Now that more and more necros are surfacing (sPvP and WvW in droves), my win ratio is a lot lower, because I now must rely more on my skill, and I am not the best player to have ever lived.

So get creative, and play smart. If you rely on the same old tactics you have used before, they will be countered easily, as they have before.

P.S. Lol at the OP saying necro is hitting for 10k through the shield. :P

If you play reg PvP you know all classes. And being ignorant isnt a pvpskill. Sorry. Wells necro do 10 k. Power dmg + conditions. Over time ofc.

jportell.2197:

The fact that nearly all of your weapon skills and profession skills do WAY more damage and you still have WAY more health then I do when I try to achieve max dmg.

In what situations, if you blur frenzy and i 100b you, lets see who dies the fastes. It’s not PvE. Try play a decent mesmer and be r40+ and have experience with paids (not temple week), I think it will change your mind. Suggestions please. Don’t compare your lack of experience on a mesmer with another class.

jportell.2197:

Chukree… I’m gonna have to say that that is good proof of warriors being viable. You don’t know if that team they were fighting against was bad or not. You don’t know if they were all using communication. What was presented was a set of viable warriors absolutely owning in PvP showing that you guys are doing okay. And honestly I get happy and jump for joy when my Mesmer MindWrack hits for a total of 8k crit…

I’m in the top pvp invironment atm. I know all the teams. You can’t post nonames. I play a “viable” warrior as well, would some say, but that doesn’t make me viable. and Gz on your mesmer, what has he to do with anything. l2p.

Fiorrello.8126:

people are always trying to play warrior in pvp like they do in pve.

theory craft all you want, in pvp you are playing against real people who behave in a different way then mobs do in pve. building yourself for 3500 attack with 3200 defense and 30k hp isn’t going to be as effective in pvp as theory crafters believe, and when that fact confronts them they get upset.

the warrior is in a pretty good place, probably one of the best places compared to every other profession in the game.

also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

WvW is not PvP. Just to clear it out. And that’s zerging. and its a f…. mace and he’s specced for no dmg. What is he even doing.. your example is SO trashy. GET REAL. And give me a REAL tPvP comment. PAIDS.

Fiorrello.8126:

people are always trying to play warrior in pvp like they do in pve.

theory craft all you want, in pvp you are playing against real people who behave in a different way then mobs do in pve. building yourself for 3500 attack with 3200 defense and 30k hp isn’t going to be as effective in pvp as theory crafters believe, and when that fact confronts them they get upset.

the warrior is in a pretty good place, probably one of the best places compared to every other profession in the game.

also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBJ3lUCB5I0

Hello guys. I like that you got a discussion going, however, this topic is for PvP only. I’m aware that warriors are good in PvE like WvW and Dungeons but not tPVP.

My warrior is level 2. I never touched PvE, so if you could stop mixing the two things together it would be fine. I didn’t mention anything about warrior pve.

Cheers.

Immo.9217:

Tried to show a friend it the other day when I saw it was gone, so sad.

Same haha. I was like. “I SWEAR IT WAS THERE” and I had to forum it..sigh

Arheundel.6451:

Chukree.1756:

Arheundel.6451:

At the moment you can run 5 ELES and beat everyone, warriors can’t even deal dmg to them, and not even close at stomping! – After discussing with people I’ve come the conclusion that, “IF YOU CAN RUN MORE THAN ONE OF THE SAME CLASS IN A GAME E.G. 3 ELES, it’s broken”.

5 Warriors team
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy1wmn1--U&feature=player_embedded

ROFL, yeah @Chukree “IF YOU CAN RUN MORE THAN ONE OF THE SAME CLASS IN A GAME E.G. 3 WARRIORS, it’s broken"…well said my friend

P.S Just another video showing how warriors are UP and useless in PvP, “3 of the same class in a game it’s broekn”…can’t stop laughing…even the developers must be laughing after reading this thread

I dont know what your point is? This is a complete kitten video with kitten warriors against a kitten team. Try let the 5 warriors fight a decent paid team.. You’re so pve’ish. vid of pugs fighting some lamers. You really know stuff about this game.

Yeah watch out! Internet tough guy incoming! Ty PvP god for showing us the light rofl.

Go troll somewhere else.