+1; not a HUGE deal but what the hell? hurts my eyes
Once again, all of [AoN]’s GvG requests have been declined; even 15v15s…
WvW is not a place to satisfy your role-playing needs. There’s gameplay to be taken into consideration.
Ironic that mesmers have very limited condition clear and stability. I am sure it is a L2P issue <3
I suppose it is time to nerf confusion again. 50% across the board wasn’t enough anet. Time to go half again!
If you think Out of Attunement needs to l2p, you are definitely mistaken… confusion is very strong right now, especially considering how easy it is to massively stack a person up.
Just how does he die to confusion then? Because I’ve fought many people who don’t main their ele or anything , and know very well how to deal with confusion mesmers. Confusion really just doesnt do more damage than bleeding, unless if you spam like hell ofc.
Bleeding: (0.05 * Condition Damage) + 42.5 per stack
Confusion: (0.075 * Condition Damage) + 65 per stack
Nobody talked about dying from Confusion… the fact that you’re stating this shows your lack of experience in PVP; Confusion basically punishes you for everything you cast while it is active, including a possible cleanse. Therefore, in the event you get stacked with no immediate condition removal active… you’re screwed; you have to choose between not attacking at all (and not dodging for lots of classes), or taking massive spike damage.
(edited by Convenant.7092)
Ironic that mesmers have very limited condition clear and stability. I am sure it is a L2P issue <3
I suppose it is time to nerf confusion again. 50% across the board wasn’t enough anet. Time to go half again!
If you think Out of Attunement needs to l2p, you are definitely mistaken… confusion is very strong right now, especially considering how easy it is to massively stack a person up.
…and isn’t AoN on mag?
Wait .. are you telling me that Maguuma has trolls?
Agg was on SoS when we fought them; they refused to accept our challenges!
Props for sticking it out for the small-man scene in T1!!
Agg still refuses to fight AoN in a gvg with anything short of 15v15.
I think to create the type of dynamic that found in GvGs these days its usually 15v15 or 20v20.
So I’m thinking AoN refuses to do 15v15 and Agg refuses to do anything less than 15?
-cheers-
We’d do a 15v15 if there was actually 15 people in our guild.
Agg still refuses to fight AoN in a gvg with anything short of 15v15.
Heya,
We’re from AoN and we need an extra member to fill a gap in our team; mesmers prefered! Thank you for contacting me ingame.
Actually it was explicitly spoken that you’d never have to get out of your way to playing however you want to be competitive. That’s the definition of playing however you want. Please inform yourself before thinking.
Which is beyond stupid to actually believe, ergo:
The Explorer’s Guild of Tyria doesn’t get jack-kitten, and exploring is a major part of the game that I wouldn’t even specifically call "PvE’ as it is commonly defined, more like PvCamera. When to RPers get rewarded for their X hours RPing like the best RPers out there?
And aside from rings and a backpiece, WvW is pretty much in line with the rest of the game.
What the kitten are you talking about? You either PVE, WvW or sPvP… of COURSE I don’t mean that you can troll Lion’s Arch and get good gear…
Heya,
We’re from AoN and we need an extra member to fill a gap in our team; mesmers prefered! Thank you for contacting me ingame.
Precursors do drop from the chests, but very rarely. I’d love to say you should be able to get everything ever from just playing WvW, but not only is that not going to happen, it’s not good for the game as a whole. We will continue to do what we can to improve the rewards available from WvW and there are some developments specifically relating to skill points that are coming soon to the game as a whole, but honestly if you want to get all the things in the game, you have to play all the game. Branch out, I suspect you’ll enjoy it. And WvW will still be there when you want to play it.
What happened to “Play however you want!”, quoted from the manifesto? Thrown out the window…
Was there “expect to be rewarded the same in every game mode” in the manifesto? You can play PvE or WvW all you want, but why would you expect the same rewards from them? That was never stated to happen, anywhere.
Actually it was explicitly spoken that you’d never have to get out of your way to playing however you want to be competitive. That’s the definition of playing however you want. Please inform yourself before thinking.
Precursors do drop from the chests, but very rarely. I’d love to say you should be able to get everything ever from just playing WvW, but not only is that not going to happen, it’s not good for the game as a whole. We will continue to do what we can to improve the rewards available from WvW and there are some developments specifically relating to skill points that are coming soon to the game as a whole, but honestly if you want to get all the things in the game, you have to play all the game. Branch out, I suspect you’ll enjoy it. And WvW will still be there when you want to play it.
What happened to “Play however you want!”, quoted from the manifesto? Thrown out the window…
PPT is lame, ANET, please delete it.
Every Dragonbrand and TC guild and Agg last week has refused our challenges to 5v5 or 10v10. DA was the only guild that had the guts to accept (a 5v5); which I applaud to. I suppose everyone wants to nullify any kind of meaningful group play and rather call the most random direction calls (left! right!) rather than anything involving real skill (focus this, pulling that, poison this).
As expected from the “top” guilds of WvW; I guess even in GvG, to compete, we must have a zerg.
The orb can have non combat buffs like magic find xp karma boosts and it’ll be fine. It is when you give advantages that affect combat where things get unfair.
ArenaNet has comfirmed it will grant roughly the same buffs as the orb did.
Where is this “zerg down the orb” info coming from if I may ask?
His imagination.
Oh… I don’t think I want to see more then. <shudder>
Too grandiose for you to grasp with your feeble mind. But really your mind must be incredibly tiny, since it doesn’t take much imagination to know that numbers will once again prevail in the acquisition of said orb buff.
Nobody should be instantly killed by a 30 man zerg, at least give people a chance to react.
?? Of COURSE you should be instantly killed by 30 people lol
It’s quite simple:
A PR takes care of public relations by trying to simply inform the WvW community of Arenanet’s projects in the most ‘’omg look at how much we’re doing’’ way possible.
A coordinator relates the dev’s views on main WvW issues and the community’s views on the same issues. I feel that the WvW team is highly unaware of what we ACTUALLY want, and that’s what we expect from you, Devon, I could care less if I see results but I’d like to know that the game is headed in a direction which WE want, and I simply don’t feel that the devs are doing it right. Contrarily to most, I don’t want to see deadlines, I just want the changes to reflect what the WvW community wants, and that starts with you actually TELLING your team and COMMUNICATING, asking for CLARIFICATIONS from the community, rather then decide everything by yourselves (the devs). THAT is the job of a coordinator. What we are seeing; supply mastery and trebuchet mastery, and simply STATING things without really COMMUICATING back and forth with the community, is what PR is.
You’re inflated sense of self-worth is borderline amusing. Also the way you assume a vocal minority of forum posters speak for everyone, absolutely adorable. Now hush while I bask in this warm glow.
By the way… does anyone else recall a different game where the devs have been as communicative as this one? I can’t. Wah, they didn’t say what I demanded them to say. Please.
Your attempt to sound superior all the while failing basic grammar is laughable.
Even though he doesn’t do it well, con does bring up a good point.
Unless I missed something, this “good point” was good like half a year ago?
I’ve wasted too much time using ’’good’’ ways to bring up good points; people only read the first 5 lines anyways.
The point stands because whatever mechanic they are going to introduce with the buff, it is VERY hard to find a way to do so without favoring the stronger faction (in this game’s case, the faction with more numbers).
Devon’s a PR.
What the heck is a PR? I am a designer and the coordinator of the WvW team. I am in charge of making the decisions as to the implementation of and final versions of anything that gets put into WvW. While part of my job is to post on the forums to keep y’all informed, it’s also part of my job to not make promises that we can’t keep. So, my answers come off as vague, because that’s as much as I can say. If I’m saying anything, you should consider that to mean something, because if it is a topic I have absolutely no information on, I won’t talk about it at all.
It’s quite simple:
A PR takes care of public relations by trying to simply inform the WvW community of Arenanet’s projects in the most ‘’omg look at how much we’re doing’’ way possible.
A coordinator relates the dev’s views on main WvW issues and the community’s views on the same issues. I feel that the WvW team is highly unaware of what we ACTUALLY want, and that’s what we expect from you, Devon, I could care less if I see results but I’d like to know that the game is headed in a direction which WE want, and I simply don’t feel that the devs are doing it right. Contrarily to most, I don’t want to see deadlines, I just want the changes to reflect what the WvW community wants, and that starts with you actually TELLING your team and COMMUNICATING, asking for CLARIFICATIONS from the community, rather then decide everything by yourselves (the devs). THAT is the job of a coordinator. What we are seeing; supply mastery and trebuchet mastery, and simply STATING things without really COMMUICATING back and forth with the community, is what PR is.
Zerg down the orb, win bonuses for already winning faction
HURRAY!!!!
Increase the damage needed to rally from somebody in WvW from 10% to 50%.
That way people won’t rally because they stood around doing nothing but did retaliation.
You have far too much faith in people doing what is best for themselves.
People zerg because they’re lazy and hate being killed. Even if you increase the rewards for small group play 100x, people would still rather just auto-run and auto-attack with one hand while their other hand is doing, well, you fill in that blank.
I fully support what you’re trying to achieve, but I’m not sure this will change much.
Completely false. Did you even read his post? You are unbelievable. IF they made changes to hurt zergs (penalities for large numbers, nerf of downed state, increase of AoE cap, stronger AoE abilities), then small-men would be able to better compete vs the skilless ‘’guild groups’’ (aka 40 people with the same tag being completely innefficient while stroking themselves). Numerous times have we been able to down 15 of them out of 30 within the first 10 seconds, only to have them all rally by one person getting stomped. So even if they got completely outplayed, the mechanics of the game hurts small-men.
Then obviously there will be more small-men, since it’ll be easier and more accessible to all.
- Make World Rank cap at 250, at which you receive a Character-Bound reward.
- People will have a sense of progression, as well as motivation to play their alts at lvl 80.
Right now, there’s no cap in World Rank, so people constantly play their main character, which usually leads to burnouts and then quit the game.
Yes, how dare people play the game differently from you….what do you care? Unless there are like a dozen people dueling when you have a queue to get in, it doesn’t really hurt your server to have a few people who aren’t actively trying to take objectives…
They should be dueling somewhere else, not in a competitive gamemode.
Yeah, they should add to the 60 person zerg with the commander, to make it 61. To change everything!!
Devon has always been a good communicator with the WvW players. He also tends to post in flurries, probably due to being busy working on the game and not having a lot of time for the forums. Working as intended IMO.
Devon’s a PR. His job’s to keep us the happiest that is rationally possible. What he SHOULD be is a liaison. If you think communication between community and the devs is working as intended, you are mistaken. Do you really feel that they are on the same page as us right now? Supply Mastery?
LOL…that is not true! A check to balance the numbers is literally only 3 lines of code.
Please don’t support bad behavior.
Might I ask how much development experience you have?
Based on your response I would assume very little to none.WvW and PvE is completely different and require completely different things when it comes to development. In PvE they only need to take mobs into consideration, whilst in WvW there are also other players and such.
There is also a ranking and point-system that might risk getting broken with patches and so on.
You really have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve had years of experience developping games and trust me, the kind of PVE content they make is quite some programmin, more-so than simply changing colors for commander icon in WvW.
Jesus it is hard to deal with people with no substance that only respond with snarky comments. Do you guys ever wonder why things don’t get changed its because you do not have the ability to express ideas…. or have no idea…zzz.
Dunnburry I am sry I don’t know what wvw is like on BP you may be right.
The idea here is pretty clear, and has been expressed, but ignored, thousands of times. People like you are the reason nothing changes; you HAVE no opinion. You’re just an occasional, casual player; that may not be the case of everyone here.
Comments like yours are adding to the problem. You are enabling them to dismiss valid criticism just because you don’t see the larger picture.
Oh I’ve posted my share of constructive posts, but they’ve all gotten buried, even if they had 50+ positive replies, in the graveyard of pages because they were ignored. I think I see the larger picture more clearly than you.
And I thought I was a “gloomy gus” about the near-term future of WvW.
The post referenced by the OP is obviously an extreme worst-case scenario.
If only that were true.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/jubilee/I-don-t-like-this-update/page/7#post2586129
Man relax allot of player can only pve do to there rig and lag out in wvw/drag in spvp, it is fantastic that there is a festival every 2 weeks and they are constantly upgrading the game. If you played wow or really any other mmo you would see how special what they are doing really is. Along with all these thing they are upgrading all other aspects of the game as well. “WvWers find motivation to keep playing?” We found it… we like killing people. This isn’t pve do you expect rewards cause if they were going to give them it would be to tpvpers because tpvp has a closer barring on personal effort. If they did give large rewards here it would most likely just be exploited. The bag change is awesome though and pretty hard to exploit.
Festival every 2 weeks is not what a game needs to substain itself on the long-term. Meeting community demands in a rational way and assuring substaining PVP and PVE content is what keeps a game running.
After re-reading this post, and researching about the nature of it, I’ve concludeed it was NOT sarcasm as I originally thought it were going to be. It is an actually very real post from a PVE player.
’’Scar XXXX.7935:
I feel your pain. But log in next month for the Fall Festival, and then in October for Halloween, and November will be the one yr anniversary of the Karka invasion; so that means a Karka Bash; and then Wintersday; gosh I can’t wait. So many more games, like Angry Karka’s and Karka-farmville. Mmmmm, good
I’m pretty sure January is the month we really want to look forward to. I believe that will be the one where the Elder Dragons will destroy everything but Lion’s Arch and forbid the survivors to do anything but mini-games and theme park content that can fit with in the confines of the city or pocket instances.
“Living Lion’s Arch” is rumored to be the push for 2014, with the goal for the year being half the NPCs in the city offering a gateway to instanced content and the other half each being a vendor for their own specific currency.
There will be a new festival every two weeks to keep morale high and once they have a years worth, they will let them cycle while they work on GW2 Facebook integration.’’
Oh god yes Facebook integration. With GW2 appealing to such a wide spectrum of players, coupled with the fact that ArenaNet has clearly chosen which side they have taken (Living Story/PVE-fest) side, how in the world can WvWers find motivation to keep playing?
Absolutely. Really like the commander badge idea, 0 effort to implement and would definitely sell. Some interesting purchaseable emotes would do well too. How about a limited use lootbag collector that will instantly pick up every lootbag in 2400 radius? I would be all over that!
Why are we having to tell Anet how to increase revenues? :S
It’s because the whole development model is focused intently on producing junk content to keep causals and MMO tourists playing “fill up the bar and win a prize!”
Easily added with minimal effort that would target WvW players with the gem store:
Badge Of Honor Drop Booster
World XP Booster
Unlimited Repair Canister
Account Bound Siege Weapon Backpack
Premium Guild Emblems
Automatic Feeder (consumes designated food and utility consumables in your inventory when their duration ends)In addition to the custom color for commander tags I already mentioned I could rattle off gem store items we’d love to buy all day long.
And you can easily bet that those ideas are 10x easier to implement than designing any given Living World event.
Why are people dueling in WvW?
Because sPvP is a true test of skill and coordination because all gear is equal. Some folks can’t handle that.
HAHA! Balance in sPvP is a joke right now. Don’t talk to us about skill and coordination. I for one cannot stand how slow paced, lack of reaction time required in sPvP. I’d much rather duel in WvW, where higher damage potential equates to higher skillcap.
First and foremost, you need to understand that A-Net is a company, and companies want to make money. There may or may not be other (minor) interests as well, but essentially it always boils down to this: $$$.
Yes it comes down to money, that should be obvious enough to anyone, it is afterall a bussiness.
And people should be careful not to get to entitled. Afterall, all of this is FREE extra content. You dont have to pay a cent for it. ANet is obligated to fix bugs and keep stuff working, but they are by no means obligated to feed you free content.And to an average player, Anet does do a fantastic job of adding new content, a lot of new content. But if you’re a WvW player i can understand you’re being a bit envious of all the content that “is not for you”. So to speak. I know i am.
The only thing we can really remind ANet of, as a company, the people that play for the WvW could very well start walking out. Especially when competition shows up. And then its upto ANet to descide if its worth the investment to give us free content just to hook us into the game or not and keep the playerbase where some buy gems and future dlc/expansions.
The biggest thing here really is that they did spend time on making stuff for WvW. But sadly i think the effort they spend was a bit of a cheap cop out. Very grindy WXP. Instead of things people actually wanted. I mean, they pump out fresh skins like crazy, but never made special WvW skins. Something i know a lot of people would really like.
All of what you said is good, but you’re missing the point.
We’re saying that if ArenaNet put the effort they did in Living World into WvW, the game overall would be much more enjoyable, as WvW itself has the potential to please a higher playerbase than Living World will ever do.
“We’ve also transitioned from our original single Living World team, which operated with very short turn-around time for most of the first half of the year, to four Living World teams for the second half of the year.”
in https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/looking-ahead-guild-wars-2-in-2013/
Okay. Glad to see this game’s heading in the direction we all want it to.
Why is this thread even a thing? The four teams were formed months ago.
… Right around when actual devs took over WvW with a full team.
Yes, and since they took over we’ve seen…
Grindy, useless, rushed WXP system. Not exactly our idea of progression.
…That’s it.
And PVE has seen…
Queen’s Jubilee
Cutthroat Politics
Bazaar of the Four Winds
Sky Pirates
Dragon Bash
Southsun
…See where I’m coming from?
You guys should go play wow or one of the other kittenty games out. We will see you when you get back.
I hate to bump this thread but I don’t understand what you are crying about there isn’t even anything specific just ragging about nothing. Are there problems with the game sure but they are not in wvw apart from maybe not being able to get a back piece with b of honor.
This is what happens when you don’t put your kids down for a nap they get all grumpy.
If you don’t understand what I’m complaining about here, then perhaps you should stay away from the topic.
This is what happens when you don’t keep unaware and ego-tastic people off the forums they get all grumpy.
No you’re screwed haha
If you don’t like the game – quit.
I’m playing WvW and I am really happy with how it looks right now. I don’t really know what you expect, but instead of creating stupid topics with no information that can be classified as “constructive criticism” just leave. M’kay?
Thanks!
PS. If you DO have something interesting and intelligent to say, create or find a thread about it and just write it down.
Cheers!
Lol I’ve written dozens of pages of excellent, community-approved ideas only to see zero response from ArenaNet.
I wrote a page about a warband system to replace the commander system.
I’ve written pages and pages about realistic solutions regarding the zerging issue.
Instead they give us SUPPY MASTERY HURRAY!
Lol the new generation of gamers, telling me to quit. If you were unhappy of your country’s politics, would you quit the country? This is the same principal, putting peer pressure and voicing discontent to make things better has become so hard due to the amount of these “take anything in the kitten ” type of people.
Happy to get their money milked from them.
Happy to suck up to the devs.
Not enough will to revendicate anything.
Now, man up and voice your discontent. There is obviously more interest in WvW as a whole than the living world stuff. The living world stuff is and always will be the same thing over and over again, while only PVP offers unpredictable scenarios which makes gaming fun (for players who actually enjoy challenge). This just shows how much ArenaNet has no idea what’s going on within their own game.
“We’ve also transitioned from our original single Living World team, which operated with very short turn-around time for most of the first half of the year, to four Living World teams for the second half of the year.”
in https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/looking-ahead-guild-wars-2-in-2013/
Okay. Glad to see this game’s heading in the direction we all want it to.
HAHAHA TSARAZI LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
the more time you open field the more you help your server? lol
like the buddha of the homeless park
I don’t see what’s the problem. If a person excels at one aspect at WvW, shouldn’t he be concentrating on that aspect? Or do you want the cream of your fighting force running supplies?
if only everyone was too awesome to run supplies
You’re beyond saving. I make a video encouraging small-mans to help the server, and all you could find to say is this. More and more, I lose the will to even care slightly about my server because of all the unnappreciation for the effort groups are doing.
It seems like all they want these days is people to zerg around like sheep, or otherwise deemed trolls.
the more time you open field the more you help your server? lol
like the buddha of the homeless park
I don’t see what’s the problem. If a person excels at one aspect at WvW, shouldn’t he be concentrating on that aspect? Or do you want the cream of your fighting force running supplies?
AMAZING! Just downloaded it. This deserves much more replies. There is no bumping for this sort of fan-generated content. Music is timeless.