On the plus side, I’m making a killing selling mats… like low level leather exploded in price. Now is a good time to complete maps level 20-50 or level a character.
“and thrown about 70 dollars at the game” Don’t blame Anet for a system YOU created.
Your complains are valid, however you are one of the persons creating this system.
On no I’m a horrible person for supporting the game. Oh evil of me for wanting things like character slots and bank storage!
I know.
I started in January, as well.
Let’s just say I’ve spent far too much money, already.
Not anywhere near the amount the guy who left, recently, saying he’d spent “tens of thousands” spent, but still far too much for the amount of months played.
..,and then they do this.
Like we’ve all had a practically free ride for 3 years, or are F2P players.
It’s easy to spend money on GW2. Very easy, so I do not blame you at all. I just flat out refuse to buy certain things in the store or gem to gold convert. I keep myself on a very strict budget when gaming, just so I don’t do something like naughty like “Screw it, buy all the things!” Which I have done in the past in other games. /cough
The thing is, we’re all being treated like we have paid the bare minimum for all this, over the last 3 years.
But, some of us haven’t.
Oh I haven’t been playing for 3 years. I’ve been playing off and on for since late January. Seriously try explaining to vets how expensive things are now, and you will get no sympathy. Like dyes? Some of them are 10 to 20 times more expensive than they were when people started 3 years ago. And people just tell me, well don’t buy it. So I don’t get to look cool? Like you? Because I started later? Or how about gold to gem conversions? Also very pricey. Runes? Good ones are expensive and I can’t really go out and farm the materials for them. Some of them I can’t even make because the recipes only existed in certain events.
I have grinded my butt off to get what I have, I have converted over 1500g, 400g worth of dyes and the entire collection of dyes costs 6900, and thrown about 70 dollars at the game(no expansion yet.) And I still feel like I’m behind. I haven’t bothered crafting ascended gear because it costs as much or nearly a precursor at this point. Not very fun.
p2w means you are forced to pay i havnt felt a NEED to pay for anything unless i wanted too its NOT VERY HARD to earn gold and turn it into gems its actually easy fairly fun .
http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki
- dragonhunter
- druid
- reaper
- scrapper
- tempestThat is just an example.
Outside of PVP, it is not P2W. But more like pay, pay again for gems to gold, to enjoy the game.
Given the last time they balanced professions we ended up with the guardian symbol exploit and the engineer piercing grenade bug, I know better than to go into sPVP after a patch. I’ll wait for balancing, but…. LOL! Let’s hope they are just the top builds because people want to try the new specializations in PVP…
It’s a joke right?
It’s a real shame they yoinked your guild buffs and threw them behind a huge gold sink and pay wall. That 3 years you spent building up your guild and earning all those buffs? Gone. I’m surprised they didn’t take vaults away too.
I did not purchase HoT so I don’t regret it. But I can say after joining the GW2 community in January, I often question my purchase choices. The updates and changes to the game have not been always favorable. I have not enjoyed the few seasonal events I’ve experienced, but I do know I got enough entertainment out of the game to justify my gem purchases and original purchase. I do not think I will however continue to support the game, which is a shame. GW2 is very unique and special, but I feel often more hindered by gem store practices than freed, when comparing it to say other f2p games or subscription games. I will however keep watching and see for upcoming changes, such as I will try the Christmas event, I hope it’s not a grindy as the Halloween event.
@Labjax, I think the word you are looking for is subjective. People seem to forget their views are subjective. Difficulty, fun, taste, favorites, it’s all subjective. Gamers always seem to forget this, and try to force their subjective views on other people. Such as “I find it easy, you are doing it wrong.” That’s a poor comment because difficulty is subjective, it’ll vary wildly between players. The better comment would always be “Why is this difficult for this player? And is there anything I can do to help?” But then that actually requires things like empathy, effort, time, and/or even resources. So I understand why many players simply shrug them off. You can’t spend your game time helping every single person through the content.
Ok, picture yourself as someone who has just hit level 80 been playing for 3 or 4 months and wants to get the new legendary weapon. How on earth are they to get the gold or materials without resorting to heavy heavy grind?
They buy gold from Anet.
I’m not being facetious. This is the new business model for the game. We’ll see more of it in the future. And as people get used to it, it will be more blatant.
And, btw, I have all ascended, and my legendary(s) for my one (1) toon. So I don’t care about the difficulty anymore. I got mine.
When I saw the direction the game was headed with HoT, I deleted my Alts, and sold all the Ascended Mats I was collecting for them and then sold it for a small fortune on TP.
You know the one thing that keeps me buying a lot of gems? The cost is too high. It’s like 40 dollars for a set of tools, that’s the price of a new game… so what do you think I’ll spend that 40 dollars on? Tools or hours of entertainment with another game? I think the only thing I’m a little okay on price wise is outfits, 10 bucks doesn’t seem terrible. And don’t get me started on black lion ticket scraps. The gem cost of those with an alleged 32.6% drop rate? HA! HAHAHAHAHA!!! No. And before you go “Coyote you suck you don’t support the game” Not including the expansion I’ve spent about 70 dollars on gw2 alone this year. And converted gold into over a 100 dollars worth of gems.
And with gem store items starting to appear in the game, I’ve even more wary. Like I converted gems to buy a finisher since I thought 10 bucks is way too high price tag. It was a toss up between Llama and Chickenado, I went with Llama and you know what? I just bought chickenado off the AH for 4.5g. Dodge a bullet, because the cost of that finisher was 140g-ish or 8 bucks.
Whatever happened to micro transactions? I don’t think 8+ dollars per item is very micro…
You either have 2 choices organize the map you are in and start taxing people or look in lfg for a taxi to another map . I haven’t had any issues finding organized maps and doing any events bar TD meta .
Really don’t see what the issue is ,there are plenty of people on the new maps and finding people for dry top / sw or any old content is easy as well.
This. It’s like some people live in an alternate reality.
Or a different time zone. If you play weekends or prime time, I’d hope there’s a ton of people. I play mostly mornings, and it’s always a struggle to find people for dungeons, sPVP, WvW, some events, etc. Like I was trying to open dry top and map complete brisban wilds on my mesmer the other day. The event to open that area for the portal to dry top and the last point of interest failed constantly for about 30 minutes before finally enough people, hint just someone other than me since you have to clear both paths at once, showed up to open it. So I’m definitely not going to buy HoT unless changes are made, I’ll never get anything done. Or be waiting for 30 minutes for one person to show up to open the map. No thanks.
You’re going to have to find some buddies. Hopefully people in this thread are offering themselves. And maybe a few of them will consider making a guild called the “Jungle Buddies Club” open to all those who struggle and need to find buddies. And before you say I should do it, I don’t own HoT and you don’t want someone who only spends a few hours a week in the morning playing in charge of a guild. =P
This part of it sucks pretty badly. Firstly because I was just getting back into Guild Wars after playing The Witcher 3 and some other games, but secondly because it means other people are going to be leaving as well. Some are leaving for more reasons than just the crashes. I wanted to get back into one of my favorite games/game worlds, but it’s turning out unplayable for now… =(
It’s okay, it’s why I camp the forums too. GW2 is a unique game, it’s very special. It’s just not headed the way I like. But, I don’t think GW2 will be the game I want, which is fine, other people enjoy it. I’ll wait and see a little while longer, but now I just feel like that creepy ex that hangs around going “You’ll see how much need me! YOU’LL SEE!!!” Might be time to move on. =\
Curiously, if I hadn’t paid for HoT, my game would still be crashing every 10-20 minutes.
Can confirm, no HoT, still crashing. But more like once an hour so far, it’s normally “I crashed? F’it, I’ll play something else.”
This is always how I remember the game being set up – throughout GW1 as well as GW2. If you wanted the flashy armour in GW1, you farmed smite crawlers for their juicy pink bits. It didn’t make you compete any better. GW2 blurs the line slightly with Ascended being about 5% more powerful than Exotic, but it has been done in such a way that Exotic is still, for the most part, perfectly acceptable.
The thing I just can not understand is why players think that because they bought the game they are somehow “owed” grind-free aesthetics.
Don’t get me wrong, while I agree GW2 wasn’t very casual before, I still don’t think the design choice was a good one. Should you farm 10k cloth for a 5% stat upgrade? No that’s silly. Even in subscription based game, where they want you to play as long as possible, wouldn’t attach on such a grind. This is why I always laugh when people call other games grindy, GW2 will always be the queen of grind. Is that okay? In my book, no. But if you enjoy it more power to you, just don’t be surprised when the rest of the player base objects.
I actually agree with you. GW2 was never very casual. You could play it casually, but things like legendaries or ascended crafting come with a very hefty price tag or materials list. And while, yes of course casuals could get them, but you can’t say to me farming 10800 silk for your ascended light armor set wasn’t a grind or an expensive shopping list. So it’s not a surprise to me that the grinds just keep getting higher price tags, because people have accepted it for so long. Still, I’m fine with people saying “Enough is enough”, I just wish you guys said it sooner.
It’s possible they’re trying to pick up the massive Wildstar crowd with HoT, it’s a courageous strategy I hope it works out for them.
There was a massive Wildstar crowd? WHEN?!!! Because we hit the roster boss pretty hard at launch. Is their F2P Model good enough to have attracted that many more players than it lost for having NO fluff and no content between their 20-man and imposssible-to-feild-for-nearly-every-guild- 40-man?
Wildstar is a first class example of why GW2 was amazing before HOT. Now that it’s joined the already too plentiful pile of games that require guilds to fully experience content, it’s not the same refuge it used to be and doesn’t have nearly the staying power for me and those like me who came here specifically because it was a game with a ton of things to do that I could do on my own while still knowing I’m seeing the whole picture and getting as much out of the game as anyone else.
That’s the joke. It’s okay I didn’t get it at first either. XD
Cool. Thank you. So, the consensus so far is 5 basically. In the middle. Interesting.
It’s curious; I wonder why there aren’t Anet statements or comments being made to the community to try and encourage leavers to stay. Simply silence. It’s all very well and good that the people who love it or simply enjoy it are staying, but there are quite a lot of people actually leaving.
I’ve been watching the forums, and while Anet isn’t encouraging anyone they randomly sweep up the forums. They’ll come in and knock all those mean posts like “l2p scrublet baby!” under the rug and continue on. In fact most of the original posts of “I don’t like HoT I find it too difficult” were flat out removed completely. And you didn’t get notices for these deleted posts either, such as I spent most of the release of HoT stating “Or you could offer advice or a group invite to struggling players instead of insulting them” and even those posts disappeared from my history. So they are listening, they are there… the disappearing posts prove it. And I agree with their silence, what they need to look at are sales and drop off numbers. And to get good data, they need time. So only time will tell which side wins, which is terrible, we should all be on the same side.
I love my reapers, I have two, a condi and a power one now.
BTW ANet can we get build templates within my lifetime?Anyways, the thought of getting HoT, unlocking reaper and then going back to the main game is a noble one, however, it is not very practical in this “new” MMO. Let me explain. Once you have those little stars over your head stating how much mastery you have, it will be just a matter of time before you (we) will start seeing “LFG mastery 50+” posts popping up. This again drives a wedge between the different playstyles and makes the game much different than what I bought 3 years ago.
If you choose to not buy the Xpac and instead just enjoy the core game, many will think you are F2P and this too will make many exclude you. As I see it no matter how you slice it, you will be considered an outcast and it becomes “either conform or be cast out”. That to me is the problem with the new direction, it has the potential to encourage elitism, and that was something the core game never really had, save for speed runners.
I’m flattered for your concern, and honestly touched. But I’m already an outcast. XD I don’t tolerate impolite behavior or things like chat spam. So I already generally end up dropping guilds or avoiding voice chat or other players. I really don’t have a good experience with GW2 players in general, so I’ll just be the little lone Coyote leeching scraps in the core game. If people want to think I didn’t support the game, more power to them. The kind of people who would a) assume that, and b) exclude me, aren’t the type of people I’d want to run with.
Then why should someone buy the expansion if he might aswell play in the old zones?
This is why I’m not buying the expansion. While I’m sure I’ll love reaper and I might have a little fun in the new zones, I’m also 99% sure I won’t enjoy it. I’ll go in, unlock reaper, and probably never go back. Is that worth 50 bucks? Nope. Also WvW is dead and people are screaming sPVP is imbalanced, so I guess there isn’t much I can do anyway. Map complete in the old world till I find a new game.
Look at GW2 like a sandwich. For three years people have been ordering Ham and Cheese and loving it, now all of sudden when they order their Ham and Cheese it comes back with bean sprouts, spinach, smoked cheddar, and prosciutto . Now some people are super excited and love the new sandwiches, while other people are pretty much standing there going “This is not ham and cheese, I don’t like prosciutto.” And neither group is wrong. However some who love the new sandwich keeps telling the others to grow up and learn to love prosciutto. And that’s uncool, because it’s okay to not like something and it’s okay to be upset when the thing you do love changes.
Are the changes HoT brought good? Time will tell. Maybe prosciutto wins, maybe it’s good ol’ ham and cheese. /shrugs
Haha, nice pickup. So on average, the consensus is that the game is average. Pretty sure vanilla GW2 was all up in the 7s or 9s, but I wouldn’t know because I didn’t have any concerns about the game until the expansion – and that’s when I joined the forums. =P
Neither fun nor unfun, right in the middle.
Edit: For the record more angry people on the forums than happy people, so it’s kind of a moot post. But I was curious.
The average “fun”, with some posts omitted because I’m lazy, is 5.12008 with 251 entries. Unless people gave a very clear short answer, I skipped the post. I didn’t want to average out the multi-score posts unless they listed a clear answer. If it was just two numbers, I averaged it out. So don’t beat me if it’s off, I did it just for kicks.
But HoT didn’t modify GW2.
Guild buffs, fractal rewards, dungeon rewards, ascended crafting, and WvW say “HI!”
In fact did you know, unless changed recently, you can’t even claim the guild XP buff unless you own HoT? Or how expensive it is for WvW guilds to get the buffs they used to run for keeps, towers, and camps? They did change the core. That’s my problem.
Please read the post I quoted before you’re writing something like this. You’re taking my sentence totally out of context.
Not at all! Casual guilds used to have things like guild buffs available for all, not any more.
Dungeons used to be a profitable way to make a few gold in an hour and required little effort to find a group, not anymore!
WvW you could have personal guilds run the plus five buff on camps so your main guild could keep buffs on the keep/garri, not anymore!
I think the only change in my list that is good for casuals is the fact you can do fractals individually, but the rewards are broken. /shrugs
But HoT didn’t modify GW2.
Guild buffs, fractal rewards, dungeon rewards, ascended crafting, and WvW say “HI!”
In fact did you know, unless changed recently, you can’t even claim the guild XP buff unless you own HoT? Or how expensive it is for WvW guilds to get the buffs they used to run for keeps, towers, and camps? They did change the core. That’s my problem.
Request a refund? The minus is that refund won’t fix the changes they made to the core game like nerfing dungeon and fractal(though they are “fixing” fractals) rewards. Or making ascended crafting more expensive. Or the changes to guilds.
People.
But jokes aside, severe dps/gear checks, really bad RNG mechanics, poor drop rates, cheesy mechanics like “blink and you die”, large amounts of trash mobs, huge time investment requirements, etc. You know all the reasons I gave up raiding in other games, excluding stereotypes of players that make raiding … less than pleasant.
So, basically…
“No to every raid mechanic ever”? :P
Granted, ANet can stuff their one-hit KO fetish where the Mordrem don’t grow. That’s another thing that pushes the full-damage meta. If you can’t survive it anyway, why gear for it?
On trash mobs, less trash groups on the way to the boss, but mob management during a boss fight should totally be a thing for some of them. Up until the break bar, monoliths were bad-bad design for GW2, and now they’re reasonably tolerable.
PS: Can I just bring 9 of my alts with me? At least they can all get ready in under half an hour. :P
More or less :P it’s why I stopped raiding in other games. I’ll never raid in GW2 so my opinion is really moot. But I thought I’d be a jerk and give it anyway. Although you can have raids without all the stuff I mentioned. And agreed, adds in a boss fight is a perfectly find mechanic. Spending 30 minutes just clearing trash to to the boss, is less of a fun mechanic.
They at least have this going for them though, which might be the most important detail, individual loot. Yes it can be awesome to trade or give gear to certain players who you know deserve it, but is that really worth all the drama caused by looting and loot systems? I personally think not, but I’m sure some opinions differ.
People.
But jokes aside, severe dps/gear checks, really bad RNG mechanics, poor drop rates, cheesy mechanics like “blink and you die”, large amounts of trash mobs, huge time investment requirements, etc. You know all the reasons I gave up raiding in other games, excluding stereotypes of players that make raiding … less than pleasant.
Personally I think it’s simple as “This isn’t fun.” If you are having fun, you wouldn’t notice the time required. You know the old saying, “Time flies when you’re having fun!” I think we should ask, why isn’t working on masteries fun? Keep in mind, fun is subjective.
The thing is, when you bought the game you got 3 years of gameplay. That’s easily worth 50 bucks.
Now if your a sale baby like me, with a few store purchases under your belt who realizes that 60 or so bucks you’ve spent was more or less for nothing and now you have to pay another 50, well I can see why you’re upset. But I guess I got my 60 bucks worth…
Nice to see we’re back to insulting each other again. Please continue, let’s see this “award winning community” in action.
I’m not sure that there’s a nice way to say, “you might just not actually be very good at this game”
I don’t mind sugar coating but i think it’s less essential than getting the point across.
Funny, doesn’t sound like a skill problem to me, just more like mobs spamming cheesy abilities that don’t sound fun. But then again fun is subjective. So is difficulty, but whatever floats your boat.
Nice to see we’re back to insulting each other again. Please continue, let’s see this “award winning community” in action.
I thought all the gathering tools were account bound. Mine are account bound and I bought them some 6 months ago. I move them around between characters all the time.
I got Zap the first month of playing… and sold it to buy store tools and a salvage kit. I looked into what I needed to make the legendary, laughed, and listed it on the AH after poking my husband for the listing fee, and then we split the gold. Having a set of permanent tools and salvage kit, is way better than a sparkle sword in my opinion. However my top played classes are an engineer and a necromancer, neither use a sword. Little point in keeping it anyway.
If you can replace people with a robot or NPC companion and not notice the difference, it’s not social. Hell scripted NPCs might even talk more than actual players.
It seems to that HoT is not designed for zerging, not designed for casual players, not designed for solo players, not designed for small guilds and not designed for anyone who might reasonably expect to be rezzed by a random passing player.
It seems to me that HoT is designed to bring out the worst in everyone.
I’ve got plenty of non-HoT stuff to do for now. I’ll wait….
Oh, the popcorn though. I’m gonna run out of butter. I mean just look at this forum! How could Anet ever claim GW2 has a great community with comments like these?! And it bleeds on to just about every other community site. You see someone give a review people don’t agree with, the comments are filled with name calling. Rich buttery goodness. It’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I should stop watching, I should walk away, but man I can’t stop watching.
How is this game anti-social? mobs, loot, chests, even resource nodes are all shared. There’s no tagging mobs or stealing nodes from other players. You’re not forced to group with people, you can just run in and start hitting things and get the same rewards.
What am I missing?
If I had to guess, it’s because you don’t need people… or grouping. There’s very few reasons to join a guild and actually interact with people beyond “I need bodies to do this event.”
I’m pretty anti-social in GW2, but that’s because I’ve had too many poor experiences with people in this game, and it left me super jaded.
It was a fairly decent article overall. There’s some bias, but it wasn’t totally fanboyish.
Can’t believe he wants to use a thief, though. Thief feels very underwhelming with HoT.
Thief felt underwhelming to me since the trait patch a while back. I stopped playing mine.
Say something nice? Pfft…. Okay here’s my nice thing. There seems to be a tiny, but hopefully growing, part of the community offering to help and provide support for people who are struggling with the content, so shout out to those people. GW2, and other games, needs more players like you. Bro fists and all that jazz. Wish more people were like you.
Yup, they “dumbified” Wildstar a lot, and funny, now that hardcores are gone, and the game is “super dumbified” its doing just fine lol
I don’t even find it that dumb, they have a very vast rune system to add stats to your gear, pretty much required once you get a decent “end game” set, like my pvp armor. And it requires some math, addons, or knowledge to work out your runes and class set runes. There’s plenty of build diversity and abilities you can swap in for situations. I’m sure raiding had their meta like always, but small group and pvp has options. You can use ability points and your amps (traits) to create some interesting combos and even add in fusion runes that give a fun effect. There’s depth there, just not sure how deep right now. Ask me again in a month or two I guess.
You are aware that people are asking for refunds and ANet is granting it, right?
Of course, that’s an inevitable consequence of players falling for pre-purchase hype and marketing.
Or…DEATH OF THE GAME!!!
Wildstar….all over again.
And you cherry picking what to quote aint fooling anyone.
I keep seeing Wildstar mentioned, and it’s funny, that’s what I’m playing instead of HoT right now. There are still a heap of issues, like very unbalanced PvP matches, but I’m shocked at how fair or even generous the game has become. The Halloween costume? I unlocked it in a single morning of runs through their fancy little Halloween dungeon which can be solo’d. And all I can think is “Wait I don’t need 3k currency for this? I can just … have it?” They have weapon skins, an entire set for 5 bucks in the store! Dyes that you just buy and get them, no need to gamble (but dyeing gear costs in game currency.) Even as f2p I earned enough store currency to buy that weapon set or dye packs or whatever. I used it to unlock AH slots so I could list more items on the AH and make more moneys. Now I may never end up in the fancy raids, but man if they keep updating the store and giving my lots of little events to putter in for fun little rewards like costumes and decor items for my housing plot, I can see myself being happy in this game. But yeah… pvp is hit or miss, makes me miss sPVP in GW2 a little.
Anet has a lot of tools in their tool shed to create challenging content without forcing everyone to partake in challenges they might not be ready for or skilled enough to complete.
They have megaservers and instanced map technology, they could split the maps by difficulty offering the more difficult maps with higher rewards. That way you can play the difficulty you are most comfortable with. And if people do end up always picking the easy maps, well then we know people didn’t really want a challenge now did they?
Masteries could’ve been a system to tailor your character to certain difficulties for bonus rewards by either making content easier or more difficult, such as negative poison resist.
They have fractals which could be expanded to provide lots of different challenges. They could’ve added new fights and bosses. They could add a solo mode where you challenge yourself against certain champions similar to the Queen’s Gauntlet champions to test your class and knowledge skills.
The unlocks for specializations could have been a personal story adventure giving key lore on the profession and specialization and challenged you with knowledge about your character, such as reaper quest lines could require you to use boon stripping, conditions, or fears on certain encounters.
There are so many options they could’ve gone with to provide challenging and unique experiences in the expansion. And before you say “Well if you don’t like it get out.” You don’t want people to stop playing. If they stop playing, they stop supporting the game, and the population may dwindle. So instead of telling people to eff off or get good, maybe you should start saying “What can we do to make this a better experience for everyone?”
You are right, I added box sales from China to Euro and America, when they should have been included in the entire price- so box sales are actually half.
My point was that as many people are interested in buying a game like Dark Souls as in buying a game like Guild Wars 2. It is actually a lot less, so thank you for helping to prove my point.
As for your presumption that most gamers are casual. I openly admit I have no idea what portion of video gamers play casually or otherwise, but I would hazard a guess that a great many fall into a middle ground and don’t rigidly define themselves as casual or hardcore. (Nor allow definition to define who, what, when or where they’re going to play.) Most of the people in most of the guilds I’ve belonged to, save for guild with specific agendas, are full of people from the middle ground with the occasional outlier.
I’d say if you are on the forums, you are more devoted to the game than your average player. You actually care enough about the game to post, leave feedback, and discuss the game.
Most games go out of their way to hide actual populations, but if we look at games with public character information you can make some estimates on “casualness” in other games. Someone did a post about 6 months ago on FFXIV which has the lodestone allowing you to publicly view characters and their achievements. Out of 1.7 million characters surveyed only 255k had completed the most recent story campaign. And only 36k had completed the Final Coil of Bahamut, which is/was the progression raid. Only 4200 had the Kirin mount which is a reward from getting all the mounts that drop in Primal – Extreme fights. This is all pre-expansion numbers.
Sites like GuildOx and WowProgress take a look a raiding data for guilds and the numbers are still a bit pitiful, and they cherry pick their raiding guild data. If we look at the data for who can access flying available on GuildOx, which are tasks you can solo to unlock flying in WoD, servers often have as few a 200-300 people with the achievement, and over 20k players at level 100. For active players it’s only 1 in 4 who have unlocked flying.
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And here I thought the Casuals were only 1 %
in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
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“Casuals” generally don’t go to the forums, they just stop playing. People who post on forums or other community websites are often the minority. I’d say even the people who’ve complained so far, are above casual because they actually care enough to leave feedback. Most people would just get a refund or quit if they weren’t enjoying themselves.
The Dark Souls series is wildly popular, critically acclaimed and sold over 8.5 million copies. What an ironic quote to choose for such a comment.
(The base game of Guild Wars 2 sold around 7 Million Copies worldwide, to put this into perspective.)
Once again, I would 100% love to see where all you statisticians get your metrics re: the 99% of the gamer community that is 100% casual.
It’s 7 million accounts not copies of GW2. Also something silly like 42% of the U.S. play video games 3 or more hours a week, which is more than 130 million people. So we have 130 million potential players in the U.S. alone. I’d say casual would be the majority if we are doing the base line of 8.5 million players world wide being interesting in a difficult game.
People were bombing the score with 0 and 1s and now people are flooding it with 9s and 10s to push the score up. About two days ago the score was about 3.9, and then in 12 hours it was flooded with so many high scores it jumped to 7.0. It’s a shame to see the score be so badly abused. It really gives people a bad impression of the community when they see so many fake reviews.
Man autoloot in WvW is one of the only reasons I wanted the expansion. The other two being reaper and scrapper. I hope they fix this.
I’m only interested in two specializations and auto-looting mastery, so it’s safe to say I scoffed at 50 dollar expansion price. But I will still check out sPVP, complain about my WvW server and waggle my fist about getting a free transfer(since I paid 1800 to move and my server ranked up and is now trapped forever as a punching bag), and playing some world events.
And I have supported the game, I’ve given around 60 bucks since I joined in January, and I’m just not comfortable giving another 50 more at this time. If I had been playing from release I’m sure I’d not scoff at the 3 years of entertainment I received. But I think the 60 I already paid fairly generous for the amount of time I’ve played.
… They’re doing it to you, its only a matter of time before even you or those you play with get fed up with it as well to the point they will quit WvW or not play as much or the game altogether…
This is me right now in T3. I transferred up to get more people to play since I tend to play more mornings than evenings. And now prime time is all GvG guilds, which is fun sometimes, I follow them a bit and it’s sadly more rewarding than most WvWing. But it causes a few issues. The don’t attack or defend points, they can have 15 to 40 people on the map(more than one guild group generally) which can push us to the map cap but that’s true for our enemies, some groups do hit the “ppt” players and even farm them for easy bags, it can cause tag confusion, and they will never let T3 change. So if our server wanted to move up or down, it probably won’t happen.
And honestly I don’t really understand the appeal. It’s like, two groups run at each other and see which group dies, and then they regroup and do it again. It’s like kill farming. I get that their is skill involved, I’ve been running with a few guilds learning, but I still don’t really get it. Bags are cool I guess.
So now I wasted 300g+ to play with some people and my choices are: do it again, fork over 30 bucks or whatever it is or suck it up. And given the fact I was already iffy on the expansion, I’m leaning to “bleep it, see you guys when it’s on sale.”