Guild Wars 2

If you came in the beginning the holy trinity of GW2 was Power/Precision/Crit Dmg. Condi’s were considered useless especially in pve. Zerker had long been the king, and only recently has Condi really made an impact. Yes Condi builds existed. P/d thieves, condi rangers, and even condi warrs, not to mention terror burn necs were around for pvp but were never considered top tier, or meta at the time.

But as everyone else mentioned there is counters to condi. Read above for some examples.

seriously?

Just hit diamond with core MM nec.

-Does good against most classes, pretty tanky
-Dh really hurts but at the same time I want my minions to die on them
-Mesmer Moa is both dangerous but beneficial as my minions die on him
-Scrapper Moa is like Mesmer moa only shorter
-I don’t mind my minions dying on him for unblockable aoe poison fields

When you, and your team manage to pull of a miracle on a non legacy map despite being down by 100 points.

Asrat.2645:

Calm down people. I strongly doubt it was ‘silenced’. Id rather believe someone removed it by accident before I participate in this Anet-conspiracy theories.

points at Astrat and runs screaming They’re on to us!

However… howeverrrrrrrrr. These self same pve’rs are ALSO on the enemy team, it’s not like they’re only being put on your team. So I find your argument moot. Because I too worked my way to the ranks with clueless people as well. And it is with their….errr noble sacrifice as well that I at times ascendeddddddd que divine music.

Seriously though we’ve all had teams like that, and many of us still made do or climbed thru the ranks. If you want to continue on ahead if you are stuck as that is what I am assuming since you came here to write this rhetoric. Then I advise queing with partner so as to continue your rightful climb to the top that you feel you so richly deserve. If you are at the top already then congratulations you survived the pvp hunger games. Complimentary cookie and tea are in the back.

If anything consider it as a part of your pvp training. Adapt or Die :p

Astray.5802:

For me, reaper and druid are worst cancers at the moment. They are really easy to start playing, yet increadibly efficient – even you are quite new to those.

Amber thru Sapphire maybe. Ruby, and higher not so much. But then again skill in Ruby is all flavors of the rainbow so who knows.

shhhh they’re listening >.>

Some people tend to diss warriors but tbh I found them kinda useful. Paired up with one I was on my ele, we had 3v2 on mid against a thief/mesmer/DH. He pretty much killed em piece meal while I kept him alive. The rest were free to 3v2, and keep home. I don’t think a thief would be able to pull that off. Too squishy. So while if I do see a thief/warrior/DH I make a face, but bite my tongue while secretly hoping they do well. Only asking if anyone wants to switch to ele for sustain, and if noone does then I will.

Will add you, and try to help. On a side note just ignore these neanderthals.

suffish.4150:

Chase.2798:

Rarrely succeed? I’ve seen it soloed

I have seen it soloed too, multiple times. However this only happens when nobody at all goes to defend the lord for the entire time the player is soloing it (I have arrived to defend the lord when it was at 10% health with someone solo-ing it and easily prevented the kill). What I mean by saying that they rarely succeed is that if the team puts any kind of effort into actually defending their lord, the enemy lord rush will fail 9 times out of 10. This is why I think it would be a mistake to buff the lord when considering average players like myself.

In that match WE ALL were there defending the lord, it was 5v5 +lord, and I was on my ele, I rotated my aura’s water spells everything. He still died had he held out for 3 more tics we woulda won, but NOPE. Even with all 5 of us there including an ele plus his body guards, he still went down. -_-

5 necro team is pretty much victory for your side, can outmanuver them, and focus fire them as they have no sustain. Only sustain they may have is if one to two went blood. Maybe. But they won’t.

I know it’s been said before, but seriously ANET buff the god kitten lord please….please…. Or remove that aspect from the game, you removed fury buffs from temple, remove lord from legacy then. Something. score 497- 555 even with all 5 of us there defending him. Including me as an Ele.

EDIT: PowerCreep>Legacy Lord

Score doesn’t mean anything, the ele can get the lowest personal score but he was probably the one keeping your kitten alive. The thief may have the highest score but all he was doing was just +1ing, and never holding point just for some examples.

Dem troll posts, I use Wanderer on my Reaper as it is, I don’t need Merc to kill you. However. For those classes that don’t have access to the defense traits/skills of HOT, Mercenary is the only real viable option for some classes. You’d be widening the power creep even more with the removal of that amulet. While I understand ANET’s desire to remove alot of the defensive amulets you shouldn’t remove all of them. Just cause ele’s are difficult for a particular part of the pvp population to defeat doesn’t mean it’s OP. Ele’s can be beaten, and brought low. You take away cleric amulet from them, and you’d just be lumping them with Warrior, and Thieves.

If you want to listen to the naysayers, and quit you can. It’s nice to see people actually giving advice out, and tips. Listen to those if you want to improve better as a player. Keep recording, and note your mistakes then adapt.

R O C.6574:

2 thieves on a team is pretty good if they are the right thieves. But i’m sure you’ll disagree so no need to tell me.

Just because a class mechanic allows for stacking, doesn’t mean the class is OP. I win matches against Reapers; I lose matches against Reapers. 3 reapers 2 reapers whatever. Most important thing is HOW you play. Doesn’t reaper have a counter?

They do actually if you can focus them they will go down pretty quick, even with an ele there, and try not to bunch up. Necs love it when they can blast opponents in their aoe’s.

Never heard of lip service or PR work have you?

You coulda done that since the beginning.

rabenpriester.7129:

Crimson Shi.5047:

It’s not way easier to win as a necro just for being necro. If that’s your line of thinking then yea it’s going to hamper you. If you just go on nec thinking that your odds of winning just went up you’re going to have a bad time.

I think you completely fail to understand what’s good this season/patch AND you fail to understand what I am saying, AND you do not offer any helpful advice, so I’m just going to ignore you.

mkay

@Mogar.9216 And bosses get positions they don’t even deserve. You got passed for a promotion even though you FEEL you deserve it. Your sibling ate the last poptart. The world is one injustice after another. Sometimes people do get to diamond maybe they got carried, maybe they were playing brilliant compared to the current time bracket but are subpar at higher levels. It happens. There are blow outs even in professional sports games. Boxer gets knocked out in 2nd round toted to be “The Fight of the Century!” ..etc… just the nature of the game, not everyone is going to do OMG amazing….sometimes it takes work, effort, or just determination to make it thru. Just gotta ask yourself how bad you want it… or … .quit…

It’s not way easier to win as a necro just for being necro. If that’s your line of thinking then yea it’s going to hamper you. If you just go on nec thinking that your odds of winning just went up you’re going to have a bad time.

Haven’t experienced the MMR hell either, and for those who “crippled theirs” I don’t know what to say to that. Sure I lost, but biggest lose streak I ever got was just 3 in a row then it changed around especially after I examined myself for the flaws, adjusted my build, and adapted.

Just cause you go necro doesn’t mean you’ll just magically start winning, just saying. Stick with the class you know best. Due que, adjust your build to the current meta.

ibkillin.9610:

Cyn.4901:

Please delete.
Thank you.

I just lost a match in diamond due to one scrapper’s ability to actually, literally, not die. Despite being a mara strength rune rev running devastation and invocation, I could not for the life of me kill a scrapper soloing our lord (Lord needs a buff to make up for years of power creep, but that’s another post.)

It would seem pretty simple to me that, if I were on the balance team, a profession capable of sitting 2 vs 1 all game and benefiting from it is not acceptable. That would apply to ele as well, but I’m sure anet is already looking into ele’s next nerf, and if they don’t, I’m sure BDO has pvp that is not similar to banging your head against concrete.

Have you seen the Reaper? Thing can tank like a beast, throw mad condijtions on you and just melt you down without missing a beat.

Easy to focus down, can’t catch you, can be kited, and has no blocks, stealth, evades, invincibility skill. One big damage sponge. If the enemy team has no sustain, and only nec here or there at higher levels it’s gg. This post not about reapers, just scrappers. :p

I am rather enjoying myself this season tyvm, and to be honest I found I learned ALOT. Matured as a pvper (some what :P ), and became better for it.

@Eater of Peeps.9062 In my post I didn’t mention anything of my tier, or my progress or even made an inclination that I, myself was better then. Only to say that with the new progression this late in the season, and the grind that most of those are now in Ruby, and the old Ruby now moved on to Diamond or Legendary. Calm yo tatas bruh.

Testudo.4620:

Crimson Shi.5047:

Because it’s a body meant to dispute the point, idc if he’s not tanky he can still dispute the point but can’t do that stealth. But before this goes further lets just agree to disagree mkay?

that’s not how you win an argument

and dropping offpoint to survive is much better than staying on the point and dying, even if you get decapped

Yea it is cause that’s stupid, if you get 2v1 by all means run, but in a 1v1 you are already giving up the point just by going stealth? What does that do exactly? You are letting them decap, and if you drop to add insult to injury you just lost precious seconds already by letting them decap it as if you weren’t even there. Let thieves or mesmers do that, not guardians. Not to mention you lose out on the dps just by going that rune.

Also if one of your team members was afk during that match but you still win, you don’t get the pip either.

Answered you in a previous post where you wrote the same thing so just reposting here for simplicity sake <3

“@Eater of Peeps.9062 Most of those who were killing you mercilessly have already moved up to the next tier, in this case Diamond, it can even be said, Diamond is the new Ruby, and Ruby is the new Sapphire.”

Oh I knew this kitten from weeks ago, hell months, but then so did everyone else. Just noone really said anything “lately” cause it’s already been harped, and nothing is done yet. Triple single target evade that counts as a leap finisher into a water field while still dealing solid dps followed by their forcefield of doom? ha kitten ha

@Eater of Peeps.9062 Most of those who were killing you mercilessly have already moved up to the next tier, in this case Diamond, it can even be said, Diamond is the new Ruby, and Ruby is the new Sapphire.

Because it’s a body meant to dispute the point, idc if he’s not tanky he can still dispute the point but can’t do that stealth. But before this goes further lets just agree to disagree mkay?

No matchups do NOT have to be fair. It’s the same in sports. Boxer gets knocked out in first or second round. Superbowl competitor gets roflmao stomped by the favorite. Germany got 7 to 1 over Brasil. Nothing competitive EVER always has to be fair. You people need to understand that. MMR is not a gurantee. So much can happen within the game itself. The player could be sick, frustrated, tired, drunk who knows. A critical point was missed in mini map. PC crashed. You got 2 warriors on your team. It’s all random, and there are no guarantee. People this season need to stop acting like they deserve something. Plenty of times it has been shown even in real life competitive environment that nothing is ever fair or goes “omg such a gud game” MMR does not guarantee amazing matches everytime.

Trapper rune is bad for DH, not just because of the stealth but also because it’s counter productive to what the kitten DH is supposed to be doing, holding a point. Everty time he is stealthed the DH is losing the point letting it get capped or decapped.

godsie.2864:

Helly.2597:

Honestly take a break. Whenever I’ve lost two or three games straight I’ve taken at least a one hour break and came back. And everytime it’s been a win coming back. It allows you to not get the same teammates and gives you a second to relax so you don’t go on tilt which only makes it worse.

fed up with ppl suggesting this
I have always long breaks after 2-3 losses come back and still losses after that losing streak – doe snot always work so stop posting it I have never come back after taking a break and had any wins – in fact my wins come the more I play at times

The main reason people suggest it is to help you relax but also that particular timeslot may put you in an unfavorable team composition. So sometimes it helps to try at a later time bracket.

Maybe post this in nec forum. Also looks like slight varition of meta cryomancer. Congrats for making it.

If it is that important to you try partnering with someone, and share the load. Look up meta builds, and adapt.

Why? That looked like it was a good game, and coulda gone either way

Galandil.9641:

Inb4 the first “no MMR hell, git gud” post.

Nice analysis btw.

git gud! jk

This is a first, while I feel for eles being thrust into the support role, the only time I would consider asking an ele to change is if we have too many.

Add them to your block list, then monitor them to make sure you don’t que with them. Report them too along with a screenshot. Report under botting I think is what they said.

Used something close on an alt, it doesn’t have HOT with it so had to improvise, ran something like this instead, and has been doing really good. Alot of synergy all around http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBmQDbkjGKvxmawtG4wxRwQJPhUoEiJdA0A0r4L+VA-TpRHABCt/wAPAACuAAAcQAqvMQAHBAA

Kharr.5746:

Natto.5819:

Stand The Wall.6987:

yeah lets restrict ppl to only play the current meta
lawl

I don’t have Heart of Thorns. Does that mean I cannot play Ranked anymore?

You can get to diamond (and probably legendary) without HoT as a solo Q player if you’re skilled enough. Meta builds and HoT don’t make people win if they’re bad at PvP and with a bit of skill you can beat them without HoT.

Can confirm I got core Nec to Ruby, working my way to diamond, and Leeto go his core necro to Legendary.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

well i encountered this in one of my matches as well.

the mesmer was downed, the health bar is darker red, however, the mesmer is seen up and running away, not downed animation.

but up, and running away!

well, i kept blasting with reaper scepter until it died for good.

Only thing you can do really. Just cleave the kitten out of em till they die. Had that happen in one match too with a nec. Just kept blasting him with staff lol.

Lethal Stranger.5093:

Don’t forget to play a non-meta build and spout passive-aggressive comments in the map chat whenever you spot someone who is running a meta-build!
Also switch server as soon as they start talking back! Hah! That’ll teach ’em!

Be the hero hotjoin deserves!

passive aggressive? Straight up troll em, insult their mothers. That is the Hotjoin way! Be sure to tell em how much better you are them then too!

/15charrslol

I know how to fight tyvm, I just hate it cause it takes for ever to reach from one point to the other. I don’t hate it cause I suck at it, I hate it for other things. I know how to fight just fine on it.

As a Nec I admit to not popping shroud fast enough thus causing me to go down :p I go to help home only to see 3 other people follow me. I get mad at myself for not noticing until I’m already there. I have fought off point in a 1v1 to keep the enemy from getting to the point in the first place. Usually cause I cut them off before, usually by predicting the enemies next movement i.e. since they wiped at mid, they’ll next try to hit far instead…. Sometimes the gamble pays off, but sometimes too I get cc’ed by them, and they keep me from getting to the point to defend it. woops :p I don’t do this every-time, but has happened here or there. Usually on Nifelheim. I hate that map.

Edit: As for other team mates I can fill a book, the suicidal far capperst. Forgive my salt but also useless teammates who contribute NOTHING. Teammates who run around like a chicken.

Some classes do better against a mesmer then others. Reaper/Daredevil imo, and maybe scrapper. DH doesn’t really stop a mesmer. Tempest can do it, but they have to make sure their stability is up, timing is crucial. But then there’s Moa