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New apps being created, if this is legal im out.

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Anything that reads or writes process memory is a clear violation of the ToS, regardless of how much of an advantage it does or doesn’t give you compared to other stuff. Zicore reads process memory to get the session key. It really is that simple. Will ArenaNet do anything about it? Anybody’s guess.

Does this mean I have to uninstall my virus scanner and leave my computer unprotected then? Because my virus scanner scans program memory from time to time and by what you said, it violates the ToS?

There are other ways to get that session key besides searching for it in the process space. You can grab it from the GW2 cookie store or you can grab it from fiddler (even though that would be a manual process but you can go through the hassle of writing a fiddler plugin). It is just that looking for it in the process space is probably the most reliable and simplest means of achieving the goal. The code is also published as open source to prove that there is no misdeed.

The fact that there is a gem store itself to convert real life money into in-game gold is already a more blatant advantage than this little program.

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New apps being created, if this is legal im out.

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If you guys are complaining about this app, just take a look at Gold Wars 2

Right, Gold Wars 2 offer an even greater advantage if you have real life money to subscribe to it.

Furthermore, I am sure that I can make a case that having more real life money to buy gems and therefore, gold, would also grant you an advantage over those who are poorer in real life.

Also how about special gaming mice and other gaming hardware? I am sure I can make a case that having those would also offer an advantage over people, like me, who only have a simple mouse. Many of those hardware supports complex macros and saves you even more keystrokes.

If you want to talk about saving keystrokes, how about those who connected their PS3 controller to interface with their GW2 clients? I am sure someone can make a case about those too.

How about dual monitors? When you don’t need to alt-tab out of the game to look at the wiki or web maps or gw2spidy data. Aren’t those an advantage too? The list goes on…

I see no reason to pursue a case for small advantages that this program gives over the much more blatant advantages that other hardware or real life money already gives in the game. Jiro is missing the forest for the trees.

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New apps being created, if this is legal im out.

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Looks like you have not read the documentation before posting your comments. This doesn’t allow you to bot the TP – automatically buying or selling for you. It only provides you with data like what the gw2spidy website already does.

If you say that accessing the gw2spidy website is having an advantage over other players, then so is accessing the wiki website and that includes all the fan sites as well which would give an advantage over those who don’t visit such sites.

It’s still reducing keystrokes, same as macroing which is bannable in pve. So I stand by my statement. And it’s not the same as having to alt tab to check a website that tracks sales history, checking gw2spidy doesn’t reduce keystrokes it just records information same as a wiki.

I still don’t see the difference between alt tab to a check a website and alt tab to check an app dialog with the same data.

The app enables you to see notification on prices, but so does gw2spidy website if you create a login to that website.

And guess what, if you have dual monitors, you don’t even need to alt tab off the game to view the website. How’s that for having a reduction of keystroke advantage?

Sorry if my remarks come across as snidey, but in this case, the advantage you spoke of is relatively small compared to what people already have.

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New apps being created, if this is legal im out.

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Yeah its all a bit concerning. I really hope the majority of the content can be acquired without gold like it is now…ie dungeons etc… because I am not liking where this market is headed and yes its a very slippery slope.

As far as I am concerned, if ArenaNet is fine with this, then that is good enough for me. Since the owner of gw2spidy has already checked with them, then I am ok with using the website and its data.

New apps being created, if this is legal im out.

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How is botting the TP ok and botting mobs isn’t? It’s an unfair advantage over other players. period. Unless they implement these features in-game.

Looks like you have not read the documentation before posting your comments. This doesn’t allow you to bot the TP – automatically buying or selling for you. It only provides you with data like what the gw2spidy website already does.

If you say that accessing the gw2spidy website is having an advantage over other players, then so is accessing the wiki website and that includes all the fan sites as well which would give an advantage over those who don’t visit such sites.

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New apps being created, if this is legal im out.

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Let me clarify, i said “im out” which means, pulling all of my money off the TP. I just have a lot of concerns about things becoming automated, and i am almost positive most things have become so already. Furthering this with people easily doing so by the masses, which is where this could head, puts the final nail in the coffin for an already fragile economy.

Just curious on ANET view, knowing they are working on the extended experience, and just how far down this slope we are going to go, legit or not.

It is not your concern, it is ArenaNet’s concern to allow this or not. If ArenaNet doesn’t allow gw2spidy then why did they not ban him when the owner of gw2spidy contacted them for their approval? The gw2spidy website is only possible with the blessings of ArenaNet and this program does the same thing. The gw2spidy website also scans the website owner’s guild wars 2 client program memory to obtain session key.

And by the way, my virus scanner also accesses and scans my guild wars 2 client memory every so often. Does this mean that people with virus scanners cannot play the game because our apps would violate the TOS?

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