Guild Wars 2

Kraken.7514
Kind of started the flaming fest.. lets hope BB can keep up with SFR’s flaming ability, i assure you we’re quite good at this

Likta.9280:

tagnut.8621:

^^^^

He’s going to be awfully upset when he realises that neither desolation nor seafarers have a nightcapping crew either, and that those queue times are pretty much the same as on SFR……

I wish you guys best of luck in Tier 1 in the future. Blacktide and Vizunah have your CRAZY numbers too and are way ahead of SFR in every regard. When you see 25 ppl from Red Guard, just run. They WILL crush your Zerg.

I remember seeing RG grouping up trying to push our zerg from the back.. Then i trebbed them to death!

Fynd.4890:

Prince.3682:

No I think payne is right on this one – definitely nerf clusterbombs. Good call payne.

Thanks for the great idea, Payne; makes sense considering that Cluster Bomb hits harder than any ability both Rangers’ bows can put out, and it can hit twice, and it has no cooldown)))))))))))))))))).

This ^

Make clusterbombs do the same damage rangers can do with either Longbow/Shortbow and watch a whole bunch of QQ threads pop up.

Bottom line thiefs have it super easy since start in comparison with couple others. Not saying they should be nerfed or that I haven’t ran thiefs in group myself. But besides toning down super bunky/bursty builds, classes also need to be come together in “usefullness”.

Good to see most people in the zone coordinating efforts in the same TS3.

Keep it up!

Correct me if i’m wrong but.. as the OP/thread suggest. Is toning down BOTH burst and bunkers, and to “bunker” something you need alot of control (such as Guardian’s knock-backs and chain stuns), so we would get that toned down too.

I don’t see why you guys are arguing.

Bump because i think the thread got the forum bug thingy when reaching bottom.

xiv.7136:

Slow people won’t be happy until the game is slowed down enough for them to react.

Lol. If you don’t recognize that thiefs as it is are stupid and unbalanced as kitten. Then fine… don’t nerf them.

But give every single other class (that is not a mesmer/warrior since they have it already) a chance to go glass cannon and be able to pull out the same amount of dps.

How about that?

I remember back in the 1day matches up on the start, we were against Piken Square and i got into eternal battleground while we were trying to capture SM… then i saw a whole bunch of RG tags flanking us from the side ready to push into all our people standing on the door. Once they did though… i treb’d them all down lol!

See you next time RG! Props to you for sticking out for your server

Scribbles.7493

I don’t care much for those overviews. People tend to submit reports when they’re ahead, but in the end all that matters is the score during the tick carryover ever 15 minutes.
In the hours that I’ve been playing, Blacktide was ahead when it mattered. We coordinated to ensure that were in the lead during the carryover, and most of the time we were.
I’m not saying that SFR never was ahead, or that they played poorly. Just that some SFR players tend to exxagerate and throw around words like ‘dominate’ a lot.

Like him?

I live in Dublin the BST time zone. I play from about 6pm until 10.30 pm.

Yesterday when I could I took screen shots of the score. It is not regular but it gives the general trend. The interesting ones are when the scores are being calculated.

http://imgur.com/0RM7C

http://imgur.com/Yupmh

http://imgur.com/jxXye

http://imgur.com/d4Q6v

http://imgur.com/eEHFr

http://imgur.com/kzOlx

http://imgur.com/cjBKP

http://imgur.com/KrdEx

http://imgur.com/4KiC8

http://imgur.com/0T9uo

http://imgur.com/Nxz37

http://imgur.com/vWExc

http://imgur.com/Dbzru

http://imgur.com/aQUJS

http://imgur.com/89jbn

http://imgur.com/CmhFB

http://imgur.com/tgXZq

http://imgur.com/vzPOl

But yeah, i get you point. Just wanting to add that this webside is belonging a Millenium Old School, FR guild in Arborstone so they’ve nothing to do nor any reason to try make one look better then the other, even though i played with alot of them in Warhammer since they were in our alliance, but they don’t even know i am at GW2 atm.

Scribbles.7493:

I thought we had already established that SFR’s primetime starts when the other servers log off.

Prime-time is usually from 18:00 – 24:00, perhaps till 2am but that is already a stretch for those who needs to wake up early for work/school.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/9

Saturday/Wednesday we sucked i’m assuming, but yeah. At those times we beat every single up-hill fight against fully upgraded BT keeps and towers (more like Xaoc’s keeps and towers).

Not trying to rebuild the flaming debate we had before, just proving a point

@ Skitten
Indeed.

@BT
Regarding what we said about who dominates “prime-time” which BT says its not true, and even some screenshots were posted by Snort i believe, to prove us other wise.

Now please check this weekly coverage:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/9

As you can see between 18:00 till 24:00 we literally dominate an up-hill fight against upgraded stuff from BT, and we just played poorly at saturday and wednesday.

Now i’m not trying to re-create another flaming debate. But i’m just proving my (and many others) point and statement i did earlier when i said that SFR does better at prime-time EU and 70-80% of BT’s points comes from when there is usually no one online from SFR & Riverside (which is ok – game is 24h etc).

Good luck next tier anyway BT

Lol. Are you guys even listening what you’re saying?

“And kudos to Kodash for zerging early this morning on the EB. There were barely any Desolation defenders, so +1 for showing the will to deal with your disadvantages in a smart way.”

So to sum up WvWvW in GW2, the conclusion i get is:
Doing good/playing smart/be skilled is PvEing and PvDooring and not fighting any defenders nor meeting any resistance.

I believe with the actual score system this is the most effective way to “win”. True. But ask yourself…. is this the game you want to play? Is this the kind of “War” you want? Are you honestly telling me you queue up for WvWvW to not fight anybody, since its the most viable tactic?

Might even go back to Warhammer for open world pvp, since… you know… you actually get to fight people in there.

Funny you did not mention that every start of the “prime-time” from 6pm, SFR have to fight something like this fully upgraded (screenie for today 24/10):

http://ipic.su/img/img5/fs/75646.1351069221.png

And then slowly push bads whole prime-time to finally get a decent lead by 11pm mid-night.

Nekkma.8961:

So people that transfer server are no-good-easymoders but you quit wvw cause you cant counter nightcapping. Seems legit.

So by your logic is that we should transfer to another server (or even an US server) so that we can have everything capped for us by some other time-zone? Seems legit.

And do tell me how you counter nightcapping please. And don’t tell me that is by calling other time-zone guilds because then it means that they are countering nightcapping, not you.

Indeed. All i asked was a fair ground and fair numbers, but its alright. I do understand if you don’t like those kind of fights and all

Mortix.9725:

this is like WHA all over again.
i approve.

My job here is complete.

/signed Pink Witch Hunter

Veles.5289:

The reality of W3 is that ArenaNet failed on an epic level. Soon there will be maybe 3 servers in Europe filled with delusional people, who somehow manage to tell themselves how pro regarding organization they are (HOD from US anyone?).

Indeed. Funny part is that delusional people will think they’re good.

Tell you what, “jumping bandwagons new guilds in Blacktide who love to talk big”, lets meet in tPvP where competition is at? How about that? Once they implement the new patch with closed arenas we will humbly invite you guys for some scrims, does that sound good? No night/morning capping, 5v5. How does that sound broseph.

Genev.2450

Logged on to see if anything was happening.
Leading in points, nobody of our guild in WvW and apparently nobody of the enemy servers around either…. Guess i’ll have to do some coursework, kitten you -_-

Sounds about right. What is it now in GMT? 3pm? Usually people is still working at this time just so you know…
But BT is a couple hours ticking for 400+ probably due capping everything without any resistance in the morning.

Cunnart.6519:

SFR sure does seem butt hurt. Maybe it’s because they couldn’t take back their keep last night when only about 20 BT were holding it. They also seem very boastful for a server that is currently losing. I also like that they keep posting pictures of a high score from our off peak hours, pretty sweet score. You also boast about beating BT previously, before the server had more people, congrats but then isn’t now.

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Bro, i’m really happy for you, and i’ll let you finish. But let me transfer to a server where i’ll have morning/night cappers so i’ll login and just defend fully upgraded stuff so i’ll actually have a chance to do okish in w3.

Besides i did not know 11pm CET was not prime-time ? oO You guys sure to go sleep early.

Dredj.4025:

Someone saying Xaoc is better then anything on SFR? that’s quite a claim to make. I’ve seen a lot of Xaoc since they server hop, or there is more then 1 Xaoc out there making my post pointless. But if it’s the same guys then we used to wipe them all the time. Can’t think of a single time they were able to beat us.

Probably got footage of it too since we recorded WvW all day for our video’s.

Lol they are terrible. Same people we stomped 2 weeks ago. Thing is that they got a massive inc of guilds on BT now so they can cover more ground (as in, they can PvE far more then us).

Xaoc is terrible, but they do take keeps against no one while running in 50 people zergs :p

Funny that Desolation and Blacktide both got spanked by us before getting a massive influx of guilds from different time-zones. And you guys want to discuss about prime-time? Plz.

lin.2814:

Maybe u have 455 becouse all sleeping now ?)
Nightcapping and thinking that they server are good xD
Good try guys

How about you log into your own server and see there is actual quite some BT playing?
Unfortunately russians will fight no one from our side. Check score screenies:

http://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/2224503/pics/original/1168235.jpg
2:20 CET (GMT+2)

http://i.imgur.com/3D8la.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T2gRW.jpg
2 CET

http://i.imgur.com/e3q3y.jpg
3 CET

http://i.imgur.com/rvsPs.jpg
8:45 CET

Hf

Can you honestly blame SRF for having this attitude Webley?
Honestly i’d care much more about the objectives if that amount of people i killed while outnumbered mattered. But it doesn’t. Score only reflects PvE and zerg mentality unfortunately.
True PvPers don’t change that easily just to look “good” for others. Honestly, we don’t give a kitten. Everyone who fought us prime-time face to face saw that we’re good and praised us. Blacktide here even with their morning cap 2 weeks ago got stomped and had to cry for even more people becoming probably one of the most stacked server at the moment, just to compete.

Unfortunately like Anet said they wanted to make WvWvW casual, so that everyone could join. So it is what it is, a casual game. Hence why i know alot of people focusing on doing their own thing and tPvP atm since its where the competitive part of the game is at.

Maybe i’ll give focus to WvWvW again when they close free transfers, or when they fix the score to reflect actual PvP. And in fact the guilds who still do WvWvW activelly are doing an insane good job while being medium populated server. Just like right now our score is 455 against 150 from BT and 100 from Riverside, its just pointless since people have to sleep for work/life and by the time they log back in we’d have lost everything to BT since they play agaisnt no opposition… i know this is part of the game, but we can’t simple get 2000 players to cover our night/morning shifts out of the blue unfortunately.

Highlet.8039

US guild considering transfer. I’m curious as to number of players during US peak time. Basically, will we have anyone to fight or will it be a lot of roaming and taking undefended objectives?
The server and community sounds interesting and like it would be a good fit, but we are concerned about numbers and whether we will have any actual player competition since our play time is typically GMT 17:00 – 02:00.

Sup Highlet. Its Sejanus/Dureal/Alatheus here – we played together with Gorikor @ Warhammer. If you’re the same dude :p

I’m in Seafarer’s Rest atm and we’re fighting Blacktide and honestly they ain’t good, just morning caps everything that we won during EU prime-time. Atm the actual score is:
Seafarer’s Rest 455
Blacktide 150
Riverside 100

Anyway, sure Blacktide can nightcap its way to tier 1 but if i were you i’d join Seafarer’s Rest. There is literally no night capping at all and we’re the only medium populated server to reach tier 2, so if you’re looking for challenge and competent players during prime-time its the server to be. And normally i wouldn’t try steal any US guild to Blacktide but i’m just posting here since i know you :p

You’re with Exo or Scelton or what? I still have my US account to Anvil Rock just to do some tPvP with Beardz and Ostricheggs.

@ dmae

Not really since there was a massive influx of guilds in BT, such as CIR and Unnammed to name a few, and they’re on prime-time. And i bet you still got queues (as you can see on the chart posted on the first weeks of the server) for all battle grounds.

tagnut.8621:

I might be under a misconception but are XOAC meant to be something more than mediocre?

Well, i wouldn’t say mediocre since they have around 50 people running together so they make a difference in WvWvW, especially when they play at 5am when there is no one to fight against.

But when its an even fight they’re not more then pick-ups-groups skill average. But the new EU guilds who massively transfered to Blacktide love them since they cap everything on the morning and fully upgrade it. That’s just major boring :p

Mortix.9725:

tbh SFR got a whole alliance join them from Aurora this weekend…last night’s WvW showed that SFR can fight,only problem is late night/early morning when Blacktide takes all orbs and zones back…

Night/morning is around 2/3 of the whole time that WvWvW is “open”. And yes people tell us to find international guilds and what-so-ever to fill in those gaps, but to be honest even if we do that the score system is still very badly PvE/PvDoor oriented and not PvP. Hence tPvP atm is where i find fun to be atm.

Dredj.4025:

What happened with EC is we got bogged down with the queues. Then our WvW leader left and I was ill so couldn’t cover it so there was little draw to get people into WvW. Then people got bored and played other games so some of those still wanting to WvW moved to Piken Square and those who remained were to few in numbers to impact WvW as a guild group.

I’ve not played in 2 weeks and don’t miss GW2 at all. I log in from time to time and there is usually about 5 people logged in.

So my best answer is that we just don’t care about GW2 any more, it wasn’t what we expected, despite the first 2 weeks when we thought we had found the winner, the game to stick with for a few years. But ofc that wore off fast as we spent many evenings sitting in queues.

On the bright side now there is no queues at all, but its kinda kitten to fight fully upgraded keeps everyday you login. But it can still be fun i guess :p

And then SFR lost everything durning morning cap by Blacktide, and fights must “start” again for us against fully upgraded stuff :p

I still have seen all the usual guilds around from FUBAR (VII, FU, OSC, AR…), just not as active in WvWvW, which is understandable. I have gave up on WvWvW quite a while ago and i’m focusing on tPvP at the moment.

I guess we’ll just wait all the zerging servers that are seeking for 24h coverage (such as Blacktide – Far Shiverpeaks) to get full and to Anet close free transfers and then I might think to hop into WvWvW again for some serious prime-time kicking kitten

And yes, that’s Dredj from warhammer, not sure what happened with EC but some of them might join The Committee or something as far as i heard.

Besides i like the fact people see Seafarer’s Rest as a weak link atm (except the people who have fought against us prime-time ~2 weeks ago – before the hacking issue) and hopefully we stay as Medium Populated server forever, having no problems with queues is awesome!
And we shouldn’t worry with the whole “scoring/ranking” system anyway, since it is barely anything related with the PvP quality/intensity since its 90% related with PvDoors and setting clock-timers to morning for unemployed players/different time-zones. Once Anet fix scoring to take into accounts the amount of people fighting/defending/kills, i might be way more interested into it.

Also forgot to add:

5) Switch Outmanned buff for the Orbs buff. Or re-balance them since they are a very big joke at the moment.

Inconceivable.7823:

Brunners.7251:

dooger.2640:

PvP or Player vs Player is about the players.

And World vs World vs World is about…you guessed it, the world.

I don’t understand why people assume these have to be mutually exclusive concepts. Yes it IS about the world and keeping/capturing points. But to do that, you usually have to interact with and fight against players. So some people here are asking for that part to get some tweaks.

Exactly. If you only focus on the “world” part of the game, or the “general score” part of the game people will mainly focus on only taking objectives having the fights as a secondary thing. It needs to be important to want to win on the fights and to not want to die. But not as someone mentioned earlier here with Damaz Kron (addon @ Warhammer) since this can bring another issue about “keeping my score” with people creating a whole generation of carebears and people who will rather crash their game then die (yes it happens every time).

The most important thing is to find a balance between focusing on the Player (seeing names, having ranks and so on) and the Objectives.

waeren.9743:

Well we are not exactly talking about “many”. DAoC subscription numbers weren’t exactly huge but the players just seem to be pretty vocal.

They are vocal because they want the game succeed. Its the kind of the player base that a company wants to please because they are hooked and will stay for a long time if the game is good. Although i’m not saying to do 100% as they want naturally.

My points to improve WvW:
1) Stop free transfers and/or make it limited to PvE/Dungeons only, or with a very big lockout on joining WvW after you transfer.
2) Fix scoring to reflect on actual fights/fights over objectives, make it reflect partially on kills and siege weapons destroyed. Example: if you’re only PvEing doors you don’t get as much reward as fighting for hours for the same objective against good/decent opposition. There is a whole bunch of suggestions on the stinky post
3) Make it that you can buy with badges + having a lot of WvW “accomplishments/kills” to be able to display your name for a certain period. Along with that add some sort of rank on the players or title just that its a little bit more “characteristic”.
4) Remove downed state from WvW (or at least fix it across the classes). I would like to see this off WvW for a certain reason → you can actually hit-and-run with a smaller group to reduce numbers of a big group of enemies. You will still be able to resurrect them after they’re dead, but it’ll take more time, as it is now. This will actually also spread more people over the map creating more fights and less choke points where everyone just zerg around (generating more lag etc…). And will give small guilds/groups more opportunities as well.

That’s it for now.

PS: Shout out to yall Warhammer baddies, much <3 from Sejanus/Dureal/Alatheus/Funkydelic.

@StormMcCloud

Ok, first question’s first. Did you even read the thread? Do you understand that the real issue is not day or night capping? It just has this silly name because it usually happens when you’re asleep, but my night is completely different from other’s people’s nights (different time-zones). This is not being discussed. Please read Krapuul.1758’s post carefully where he made a tl;dr version of the thread.

Dear lord, everything i post in these forums gets moderated/deleted.

Anyway, what i wanted to say is that the real competitive part of the game is in tPvP, not really WvWvW.

So yeah @ Topic
Good luck Arborstone in tier 1 next week ! I think we’ll get Blacktide next week which is also a full server who got an massive incomming of guilds… we already handled them before, but we’ll see now that they got even more numbers.

Hrist.8972:

I guess I have something wrong with my head since I can have fun whenever I hop into WvW. Reward was never something I expected from it.

I do too.. to some extend. But i have much more fun at the moment in tournaments (due the explanations i gave above), hence why not going out in W3

Hrist.8972:

I can understand it somewhat. But I don’t see any reason to complain about scoring if we are outnumbered. People need to get back on WvW, I don’t really understand why guilds stopped playing, it helps nothing at all and no point will be made. Get back to WvW, then contemplate on any scoring there might be.

Because people play for fun/reward. At the moment there is neither in W3…

Changing the score system will at least give people reward for going out there, which is actually helping your server with accordingly points, and people will feel like going out more in WvWvW as well for kills and roaming with guerrilla tactics since it will be equally rewarding then taking empty objectives (as it is now), and this itself is fun doing.

Do you also think that the people is night-capping fighting nothing but NPCs are also having fun? They are only doing this for the reward, but there is no fun involved in this… and soon they will grow bored of that.

Example from someone in Arborstone:

Hey glad to see you again

Well, nightcap is clearly boring, unfortunately the game is make in this way… :/
We want to fight in D1, so we have no choice…, once this is achieved… well.. maybe we stop all this shi* and play only prime time like in warhammer again… i don"t know. GW2 is too recent to make decision atm.

Hope you get the point why things must change.

Hrist.8972:

Still focusing too much on the score.

I’m focusing on the score, but not because i’m mad that my server is losing… quite honestly i don’t care so much about score since – again – it does not reflect PvP as much as PvE. And i’m actually praising our opponents for being stronger then us overall… there is simple not much we can do. Fighting with 10 people against 50-60 when they’re defending an objective that is fully upgraded is impossible to achieve any kind of reward/fun. And if we fight outside an objective (ganking and guerrilla style) does not reward as much or nothing at all (hence the score focus).

I’m focusing on the score looking at the game over all, especially WvWvW. Hoping for a change to make things more interesting and keep its player base on the long term… i mean, just look the threads around about a whole bunch of people asking for a change on scoring and you’ll understand.

Hrist.8972:

Crying about the points and score is stupid if you’re not even trying to contribute. If you’d rather do something else than WvW because things aren’t going well then I suggest you never go into WvW again.

Oh i contributed quite some trust me. Ask Desolation about last week how long did it took them to take our last tower in EB (was defending it with other 10 people for 2-3 hours before they could complete their nightcap). But this week there seem to even be less people to try anything, and unfortunately 5-6 guys cannot make a big difference against 50… maybe we can steal what? 100 points during the whole night?

You mistake crying for being realistic.
The score as it is does not reflect PvP, it reflects PvE and how long you can keep objectives, which makes night-capping the main viable strategy… since the best way to hold an objective for long period is when there is no one attacking it. Unfortunately that is the state of the game as it is. I understand this and acknowledge Arborstone and Riverside superiority over this, since they are able to field people around the clock more then us, its ok… no one is crying about anything.

I just wish that our 200+ kills with 2 groups during prime-time would count as much people fighting no opposition mindlessly taking empty objectives. That is why i don’t do WvWvW that much anymore.

AND invisibility. Main point is still the fact that whenever i login (i play during night), 95% of the map is from Arbostone with all keeps fully upgraded. Then i look around and barely see 10 people without any organization due the fact we don’t have a night guild crew. While Arborstone have 50 people running around together.

I don’t care though, i do understand that if you want to be in high tiers you must nightcap for more points and so on. Its just not fun though, so i rather do tPvP with my groups/premade. And things will get better for tPvP with the Customized Arena and payed tournaments end of month hopefully… not so sure for WvWvW though, things look dire since people is already bored with night-capping and trying to get people from different time-zones to rely on. And no matter how many people you kill using smart strategies or defending objectives and so on, mindlessly zerging keeps is what gives more points… and i’m already tired of PvDoor from Warhammer (hence i was only roaming in a group). So yeah, hopefully Anet will do something to change that, and reflect score with more PvP instead of PvE.

lepri.6504:

@pedrst
I respect people in SR but not expected such low insults from someone from there. I still want to meet SR in battelfield and have fun together without flaming. I like your fighting will.
I want to make something clear, its impossible to stay in high tier with wide tz coverage, I remember someone from SR told they have a US guild recently transfered, I do not have if they are good enough or not but without tz coverage its virtually impossible to reach high tier. People claiming not to have night/day cappers on high tier battles either liars or little bragging kids. Our old server was in the same tier you are in right now just few weeks ago and we lost horribly because of lack of will, caused by night capping.
I do not accuse any server of abusing nightcapping, I never do but this is a sad reality we must accept.

Haha, i was not insulting Blacktide or anything. Infact i mentioned them since i know a couple of players/guild from Warhammer Online. Don’t take it personally please

In fact yes, an US guild called Apollo rolled to SR to try cover some of the night time, but they’re hardly 20 people strong and cannot even hold a borderlands on their own against the major servers with 24h coverage.

I still hope that Anet does something with the scores to reflect more actual fighting then PvEing. But we’ll see.

DL? Its mainly because i recognize SilverWF’s name from BioWare and he was in thirteen as far as i remember. But he wasn’t part as Ostmar’s main group so i don’t know if he is with them or not.

Lol CIR & Unnamed at Blacktide now. Good old warhammer times back. Although you fools should stop zerging like scrubs with russians at FS/Blacktide and join Seafarer’s Rest.

We proudly reached tier 2 by crushing stuff EU prime time while being medium populated with barely close to no night crew going on. Only other server to achieve that is Arbostone.. but they have a massive night crew time capping 100% of the map during night

Regards from Sej here.

Its kinda hard to get some numbers to FS seeing that you and Blacktide are full at the moment from the EU servers. Might transfer to Seafarer’s Rest since we’re only medium populated and are at tier 2 already.

And i remember you SilverWF, is Thirteen in there somewhere with the russian guilds? :p

Definitely switched from Ranger to Mesmer on tPvP @ my group. And another funny fact was that i was doing tPvP for around 3 hours and saw only 2 rangers in 2 different fights against pick-up-groups.

Nightcapping/Invisibility just made me not want to go into WvWvW at all. Props to those who are still fighting to be honest.

And i’m not saying that trying to take the merit out of Arbostone. You guys are doing a good job and are dedicated (very dedicated to be honest) to the point of being able to hold 100% of the objectives during the night and fighting very hard and competitive during the day.
We here at Seafarer’s Rest haven’t got the luck to have a steady night crew yet but we’re proud to know that we got to tier 2 without night capping most of the times – most points were won during prime-time (save the very few times we fought servers with an even worse nightcrew).
Besides i know alot of warhammer french guilds there atm, good to see you french fries eaters rolling → Night Lords, LNM, Soul Reapors, Millenium Old School etc. Le oui.

Big shout out from mighty pink which hunter SejANUS over here. I’m mostly focusing on tPvP but if you see a very hawt blondie ranger kicking kitten in the open, its probably me :P

Lols, we’ll probably be meeting Desolation again next match up i think :p

Exactly. Can we have atleast a proper response? Since asking for a fix might be to much trouble, can we get atleast a proper feedback telling us wether it was indeed a nerf that was not mentioned on patch notes, that it was intentional or not, that the effect on QZ was intentional or not, that it will be changed or something ?

I’ve been doing tPvP whole day today and i was the only ranger in a “premade” (besides Team Tusnami that also had a ranger), and saw only ONE pug group that had 2 rangers in it. Everything else was some other class besides ranger..

This is very sad, and i’ve already started testing a mesmer since its the most bursty class (shatter spec), it has a huge tons of utility and buffs and escape routes (blink and decoy).

Not bad for Seafarer’s Rest to reach tier 2 being the only Medium populated server & not having a dedicated night crew

And here we are for a spanking against night cappers :p

But its ok, we reached very high for a medium populated server to be honest ! :-)