Guild Wars 2

TLDR version; What I say is, as they are things will never be balanced ever, it will continue with fluctuations and blowouts and stacked servers and at best new variations of the same old set-up from current time until the time Guild Wars 2 servers are taken off-line if no drastic change is made to the system as a whole.

If the company, ArenaNet really has an ideal of every three-way server fight having balance, they need to take it out of the hands of players. Players have been given far too much control to determine match-ups, and have done nothing but stack the servers and transfer from within the same 1-2 tiers repeatedly, with no interest in evening out ever.

I was surprised to see there are still people fighting on the forums throwing suggestions all over the place to achieve “long term balanced match ups” despite the fact that so many have given up this late in the game. It may be better if such posts are all focused in one place, since at this point the World vs World vs World [system] as it is may be something incapable of being balanced.

To chime in on this debate, I’ll personally say in its current form, I don’t think such is possible at all. There’s maybe only one viable solution that I’ve heard so far, the one about restricting numbers to match the lowest numbers fielded by on of the servers to guarantee even fielding for all three servers. This just isn’t going to work out if applied though. People already hate queues enough as is, and adding in a second layer of queues for WvWvW would be disastrous especially given how many players come from modernized society where “on-demand” is a basic standard of life. Asking people to wait on more unknowns before getting to enjoy the content they want to will just encourage more people to quit the game for up and coming competitors.

There might of been a few other suggestions, but most of them are outrageous.
I think we’re faced with a serious problem as a community (The dedicated WvWvW community that is) where as a whole we’re reaping what we sowed. That being, as far as WvWvW is concerned I think players were given to much control to determine the results. I’m talking specifically about things like stacking servers, declaring servers “unofficial national landing pads”(Ie. XYZ is the unofficial latino server, RGB is the unofficial Korean server and such) leading to some having massive coverage advantages during certain periods.

Believe me, I’ve played quite a few other MMO/MMORPG games, and those where the massive fights like those seen in WvWvW were best managed were always those with auto-balancing systems. Granted, that was a nightmare for team building and playing together as a guild. .Yet, if you REALLY want balance, you don’t leave it up to the players shuffling themselves to determine it, that NEVER WORKS. Players NEVER balance themselves. The traditional balancing scheme would been better, IMO. Now, say you have a single server with 1 person opting for a battle, another server with 19, and yet another with a full 20; it makes a lot more sense to take 40, split that 40 to produce 20 vs 20, or 13 vs 13 vs 13 in the case of a three-way fight(with the odd one in a queue.) or whatever the combat system calls for, to the best balance possible. But with our system, pairing together three servers three way with no care for the variance you can literally end up with 1 vs 19 vs 20 with the above numbers.

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

You claim I didn’t get you below half hp (I remember that differently, namely you pressured through the first half of the fight), and now you call it a decent fight.

Make up your mind. And whatever you say, I know I bowed at some point.

Also you forgot that time I stopped ET from spawn camping you guys as well by preventing the construction of that corny AC (Stay classy, ET >_>). I was the only reason that AC went down. You should thank me and send me some gold.

I help you from behind the scenes, and you repay me with this attitude? If I catch you alone be prepared to die, you ungrateful wretches.

Yeah pretty sure your pet wasn’t the only reason we escaped being spawn camped. Even if that AC went up, we could have easily rushed it and taken down. Don’t make yourself out to be a hero just yet. Keep getting more angry tho, it could help you come up with some more creative names to call us.

Oh I am your hero, or at least you make me feel that way when you spend so much time attending to me specifically on the forums. I don’t swing that way though, so you guys can stop hitting on me. It’s getting weird.

Oh yes, I’m so mad. How mad?

See this picture? That’s me when I read your posts.

That’s how mad I am.

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Knowing full well you didn’t run? Why would we randomly accuse you of such a thing if it did not happen? Now you are just saying we are a terrible sort of liars. Your insults have awarded you this vendetta. Not that we will search you out, but if you are spotted justice will be swift, it will be righteous, and it will be without mercy. (name that movie quote) Maybe you did run, you just don’t want to admit it after being so pretentious earlier. You challenge us to more 1v1s? No, sorry. We do not need to waste the effort 1v1ing someone we have all fought before when we could be wiping groups elsewhere.

Bring it on.

Although you do realize that if it got really bad for me I could just change my gear setup(I do have others), consume a costume, and shift to one of my other guild tags, trolol right by you guys while tipping my hat and acting friendly while you guys go “Wow, what a nice FC guy” and you wouldn’t even realize its me right?

>_>

Not that you guys will be able to cause me that much trouble, and I seriously doubt you’re going to phase through every single map looking for me.

As for why you would accuse me of such a thing if it didn’t happen, it could be that you remembered it wrong, were desperate for attention, or any number of things. That’s your business, sort that out yourself.

Well I already mentioned we wouldn’t spend any time actually searching for you… and if you changed your character and tried to run by us, you would still be killed if we found out it was you or not. We don’t like anyone with a red name in WvW. Except the pink Yarr thief. He is pretty neat. Even if we never saw you again, you would not be missed, nor would we fret over it.

o.o?

So only one of you ever 1 vs 1’d me, every other time you were doing what you’re going to be doing anyways, the only difference being you single me out first when there are others around (something that is rare when I play)? That’s the same thing dude. You guys gank a single target when you see it, you’d do that anyways.

Guess there’s nothing to be concerned about after all. How nice.

Azgarn.2145:

Knowing full well you didn’t run? Why would we randomly accuse you of such a thing if it did not happen? Now you are just saying we are a terrible sort of liars. Your insults have awarded you this vendetta. Not that we will search you out, but if you are spotted justice will be swift, it will be righteous, and it will be without mercy. (name that movie quote) Maybe you did run, you just don’t want to admit it after being so pretentious earlier. You challenge us to more 1v1s? No, sorry. We do not need to waste the effort 1v1ing someone we have all fought before when we could be wiping groups elsewhere.

Bring it on.

Although you do realize that if it got really bad for me I could just change my gear setup(I do have others), consume a costume, and shift to one of my other guild tags, trolol right by you guys while tipping my hat and acting friendly while you guys go “Wow, what a nice FC guy” and you wouldn’t even realize its me right?

>_>

Not that you guys will be able to cause me that much trouble, and I seriously doubt you’re going to phase through every single map looking for me.

As for why you would accuse me of such a thing if it didn’t happen, it could be that you remembered it wrong, were desperate for attention, or any number of things. That’s your business, sort that out yourself.

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Detharos.3157:

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Darek.1836:

Im pretty sure rangers arent going to dent you significantly enough for a “jump” to matter at all. Maybe I did miss something though, I was quoting solely that post, nothing else that you posted.

Fact’s:
He wanted a 1v1 when we were trying to group roam. I didn’t want to 1v1 him and Ignored him. I turned and ran to meet up with my group and he jumped me. I then said on TS “I guess I’m going to 1v1 this guy” They let me 1v1. I downed him. The Yarr thief tried to rez and finished the ranger (Normally wouldn’t do this but he interrupted our group play and jumped me out of the blue) The ranger then proceeds to lie and rage on the forums.

Why you had to get involved makes no sense moobs?

You forgot to mention the /bow I did after getting rezzed by that Yarr fellow as well. Are you so mad about this “Jump”? Is a brief “Number 5/number 2” great sword initiation coming from a ranger in vitality/healing power/condi gear that big an advantage?

I’m sorry I jumped you?

Lol

I’m not mad at all. Just pointing out facts that you failed/lied or FORGOT TO MENTION ;] in your previous posts.
For example:

Well I will say, assuming we’re talking about occurrences yesterday I don’t remember a single fight 1 vs 1 fight with anybody carrying a “KoM” tag going on without interference, let alone 3-4 “1 vs 1s” in which I lost.
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So you’re the mesmer? Granted, you were quite skilled and that was a good fight, close for both of us if you’re willing to admit it.

The Yarr thief did not rez you. You got finished and disappeared. I still gave you a /bow before you waypointed though because it was a decent fight.

You claim I didn’t get you below half hp (I remember that differently, namely you pressured through the first half of the fight), and now you call it a decent fight.

Make up your mind. And whatever you say, I know I bowed at some point.

Also you forgot that time I stopped ET from spawn camping you guys as well by preventing the construction of that corny AC (Stay classy, ET >_>). I was the only reason that AC went down. You should thank me and send me some gold.

I help you from behind the scenes, and you repay me with this attitude? If I catch you alone be prepared to die, you ungrateful wretches.

Bllade.1029:

Darek.1836:

I guess in a way it can be fun to go against 2x youre numbers for the entire day. sigh. HoD please go do pve events your 60man zergs are annoying.

Never seen so many fair weathers out in HoD.

You guys have just been promoted to “PvE” status.

Well this whole game, and maybe even ArenaNet itself with how it prioritizes content updates, is “PvE status” in a sense if you think about it.

Darek.1836:

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

When I go through that effort to type up a large comprehensive post and friendly post, only to get responded to by brief troll “Lol Umad?” style posts(See the rolls eye one I replied to for instance) by your members running on some delusion that I have some personal vendetta against your guild/get enraged over the slightest disadvantage, what do you expect?

Believe and claim what you want, as you have continued to do regardless.

You made that illusion up yourself. We didn’t think you had any beef with KoM at all. I simply stated that you ran away from our 1v1s. Then you got extremely agitated it seems, and created all this. Now we have a vendetta against you. Congratulations.

You do? ROFL wow, flattering to have an entire guild angry at me.

And yeah, I was annoyed that someone said I ran from 1 vs 1s when here is one of your own admitting he fought me and knowing full well I didn’t run. Furthermore you yourself saw my willingness to face you in a 1 vs 1 death, but said something later like “In the end it’d be ten 1 vs 1s.. simultaneously” or something like that, hinting that you had no interest in backing your statements, am I wrong?

now you’re like me with PAXA!

and yes lil homie is on drugs, this one time he tried to convince to do weed

Maybe I should join Reich. The forum kitten storm would be awesome. >_>

Or Reich and PAXA could merge and effectively attract 90% of all forum hate to one location.

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Darek.1836:

Im pretty sure rangers arent going to dent you significantly enough for a “jump” to matter at all. Maybe I did miss something though, I was quoting solely that post, nothing else that you posted.

Fact’s:
He wanted a 1v1 when we were trying to group roam. I didn’t want to 1v1 him and Ignored him. I turned and ran to meet up with my group and he jumped me. I then said on TS “I guess I’m going to 1v1 this guy” They let me 1v1. I downed him. The Yarr thief tried to rez and finished the ranger (Normally wouldn’t do this but he interrupted our group play and jumped me out of the blue) The ranger then proceeds to lie and rage on the forums.

Why you had to get involved makes no sense moobs?

You forgot to mention the /bow I did after getting rezzed by that Yarr fellow as well.. And it’s not like I asked to be rezzed either. Are you so mad about this “Jump”? Is a brief “Number 5/number 2” great sword initiation coming from a ranger in vitality/healing power/condi gear that big an advantage?

I’m sorry I jumped you?

Lol

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

When I go through that effort to type up a large comprehensive post and friendly post, only to get responded to by brief troll “Lol Umad?” style posts(See the rolls eye one I replied to for instance) by your members running on some delusion that I have some personal vendetta against your guild/get enraged over the slightest disadvantage, what do you expect?

Believe and claim what you want, as you have continued to do regardless.

You made that illusion up yourself. We didn’t think you had any beef with KoM at all. I simply stated that you ran away from our 1v1s. Then you got extremely agitated it seems, and created all this. Now we have a vendetta against you. Congratulations.

You do? ROFL wow, flattering to have an entire guild angry at me.

And yeah, I was annoyed that someone said I ran from 1 vs 1s when here is one of your own admitting he fought me and knowing full well I didn’t run. Furthermore you yourself saw my willingness to face you in a 1 vs 1 death, but said something later like “In the end it’d be ten 1 vs 1s.. simultaneously” or something like that, hinting that you had no interest in backing your statements, am I wrong?

fufu.8345:

Cant wait to puke on your corpse.

Well good luck with that. Since the moment I see you charging in on the edge of my map with the entire guild, I’m just gonna taunt you with /laugh and flee and watch you guys waste 5-40 minutes chasing me and accomplishing nothing since apparently that kitten es you off you guys off so much.

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Darek.1836:

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

You aren’t serious are you? I recall smashing a laughable TTA Melee Ranger in a 1v1 with no interference.
100% sure you jumped me last night after declining to 1v1 you because we are out there to fight zerg/groups not 1v1. I played along anyway and eventually beat you on my mesmer (The little asura you dueled on center island). After downing you in the duel the Pink Yarr thief tried to rez you and then the rest of the people watching finished you because you were a waste of time and we had heard you ran away from some duels earlier when your HP was low. This is what obviously stemmed the hostility. I did give you a /bow for putting up a “good” fight though. ;]

Like I said before we aren’t out there to 1v1 and most of us run zerg busting builds not 1v1 builds so it’s pointless. Several of my guildies had said they tried to 1v1 you last night and when you get low you would run away. This is most likely why you were ganked by KoM the other times. Now I foresee a 5-10 man group ganking you every time we see you just for laughs because we know it makes you mad and you felt the need to come to the forums and lie/QQ/troll. ;]

The windmill is a perfect spot to find 1v1’s. Maybe you should head over there instead of jumping one player out of a 5-10 man group and expecting the rest of them not to jump in while you interrupt their group play. Who really wants to sit there and watch some terrible melee ranger 1v1 their guildies when they could be out smashing into zergs and getting cool fights fraps’d? Think about it.

Wow you beat a melee ranger on a mesmer in a 1v1. Do you want a reward for one of the most unbalanced 1v1 matchups ever? Good job though, I hear its hard to win with mesmers in 1v1.

Moobs really? He jumped me. I was mocking him with the laughable part. You obviously have an issue with comprehension. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen you fail.

Hey, you separated from the pack after I was pointing at your dudes(and you) and /bowing making obvious indications of interest in a 1 vs 1. I believe this was after your group had ganked me a few times already as well granted I initiated the fights.

And you yourself seem to understand that was the only 1 vs 1 don’t you? So where are those three or four 1 v 1s?

Darek.1836:

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

You aren’t serious are you? I recall smashing a laughable TTA Melee Ranger in a 1v1 with no interference.
100% sure you jumped me last night after declining to 1v1 you because we are out there to fight zerg/groups not 1v1. I played along anyway and eventually beat you on my mesmer (The little asura you dueled on center island). After downing you in the duel the Pink Yarr thief tried to rez you and then the rest of the people watching finished you because you were a waste of time and we had heard you ran away from some duels earlier when your HP was low. This is what obviously stemmed the hostility. I did give you a /bow for putting up a “good” fight though. ;]

Like I said before we aren’t out there to 1v1 and most of us run zerg busting builds not 1v1 builds so it’s pointless. Several of my guildies had said they tried to 1v1 you last night and when you get low you would run away. This is most likely why you were ganked by KoM the other times. Now I foresee a 5-10 man group ganking you every time we see you just for laughs because we know it makes you mad and you felt the need to come to the forums and lie/QQ/troll. ;]

The windmill is a perfect spot to find 1v1’s. Maybe you should head over there instead of jumping one player out of a 5-10 man group and expecting the rest of them not to jump in while you interrupt their group play. Who really wants to sit there and watch some terrible melee ranger 1v1 their guildies when they could be out smashing into zergs and getting cool fights fraps’d? Think about it.

Wow you beat a melee ranger on a mesmer in a 1v1. Do you want a reward for one of the most unbalanced 1v1 matchups ever? Good job though, I hear its hard to win with mesmers in 1v1.

Not to mention one that doesn’t use the often claimed OP fire trap/torch cookie cutter set up. No traps at all actually.

Oh well at least people will have a good time with this forum drama. It’s gotta be more entertaining than that hateless gif festival last week, as much as I do love GoM.

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Detharos.3157:

Edit:

Just gonna delete this whole post. I’ve come to the conclusion that the majority of your players are high or just trolling, and not open to educated discussion at all.

Yeah, I called you out on your lies, KoM. U mad?

I don’t see a single lie. Although, if you read what I quoted ^ ;] I caught you in one.

Right, I’d say I didn’t remember that fight up until the point you made the post, but you’ll claim it was a lie anyways won’t you?

Congratulations that one of you had the gall to fight 1 vs 1.

How about those invisible 4 “1 vs 1s that I lost”? I guess that’s not a lie.

Thanks for entertaining me, at least.

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Edit:

Just gonna delete this whole post. I’ve come to the conclusion that the majority of your players are high, and not open to educated discussion at all.

Well, I liked that post. It proved you could think pretty open mindedly and had the power to not stoop lower and lower like the rest of us hell-bound forums warriors. But now, you have ruined it all and insulted us further. Also, I am not currently high, but I would like to be. Anyone care to hook a brother up?

When I go through that effort to type up a large comprehensive post and friendly post, only to get responded to by brief troll “Lol Umad?” style posts(See the rolls eye one I replied to for instance) by your members running on some delusion that I have some personal vendetta against your guild/get enraged over the slightest disadvantage, what do you expect?

Believe and claim what you want, as you have continued to do regardless.

Azaruil.3406:

Hey guys. Does anyone want to 1v1? You can bring your friends along to watch if you want.

I might get the feeling that they may want to attack me though so I may run and fully reset. It won’t have anything to do with my health being low and it won’t matter that they’ve been standing there watching me for a while, because they might randomly decide to gank me just as their teammate is winning. / rolls eyes

Hey, I like to watch “1 vs 1 fights” with my friends. Instead of standing at a distance and not interacting with the battle, we like to interactively watch 1 vs 1s by running into the middle of it with AoE speed boosts when our team mate is in trouble, and dropping stun locks on the hostile combatant and DPSing that one person together with three-four of us before the battle is even halfway through.

I call it interactively observing a 1 v1!

/rolls eyes

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Had some fun with HoD and ET in ET BL this morning.

If you see me, I’m always up for spike-less 1 v 1s, just beckon me and lead me somewhere interference free and take your best shot.

As for all those people from both sides who kept trying to 2/3v1 me and kept dying… no hard feelings, but don’t think I won’t use the water to my advantage when you simply throw numbers at me.

Also @ that random HoD mesmer and the PAXA ele who chased me in the water for like 40 minutes and had a nice duel with me later, respect. Never seen someone that determined before and you proved yourself individually strong when we dueled after as well. Those skirmishes were quite fun, and intimidating at times too. It was a pity neither of us could finish it in the end.

Spikeless 1v1s? So you don’t want to fight someone that can beat you? You must be the melee ranger that runs away during the 1v1s when you get low.

Oh you seem to misunderstand, I often fight duel style and say spikeless because of the vast majority of fights that I win. And that will come off as arrogant my apologies, its just that the average person out there that chases me runs some fodder zerg build and there’s literally no merit in me smashing a flag into them when I crush them.

If you want to fight me 1 vs 1, with spikes I’m open to that too. Although funny, only time I recall running from a “KoM” tag was in 2 v 1+. I’d attack one of you alone and immediately your buddies would rush in to help.

That the same KoM I’m remembering?

If you’re looking for a 1 v 1 fight to the death, I’m available for such a fight right now, if you’re interested.

3 or 4 of us from KoM 1v1’d you. And every time you would be loosing and start to run away. So we decided to just kill you. No point in wasting time fighting you in a 1v1 for you to just run away when there were so many ET around to kill.

I’ll take you on 1 v 1 if your buddies don’t interfere right now, just name the area. To the death.

Unfortunately I’m actually working for once. Which is why I’m on the forums.

Meh. Boring.

Well I will say, assuming we’re talking about occurrences yesterday I don’t remember a single fight 1 vs 1 fight with anybody carrying a “KoM” tag going on without interference, let alone 3-4 “1 vs 1s” in which I lost.

I recall smashing some laughable KoM warrior or guardian with the tag senseless until his buddies always came just in time to save him 2 or 3 times in a row last night, at various intervals. Every time that guy was in such an uphill battle as to make it clear he couldn’t handle me 1 v 1, and outside that there were only maybe 3 other KoM members applicable, so obviously your “4 1v1” talk is all kitten LOL.

Hopefully we’ll meet again later tonight, and have 4 real “1 v 1s” so you can back up your kitten talk. Unless you’ve mistaken one-three of your buddies jumping in halfway through a 1 vs 1 fight when one of you is near half hp, and spamming CC stun lock on a single target until they die as “1 vs 1s”. Cause that’s about all I remember from your guild tag. >_>

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Had some fun with HoD and ET in ET BL this morning.

If you see me, I’m always up for spike-less 1 v 1s, just beckon me and lead me somewhere interference free and take your best shot.

As for all those people from both sides who kept trying to 2/3v1 me and kept dying… no hard feelings, but don’t think I won’t use the water to my advantage when you simply throw numbers at me.

Also @ that random HoD mesmer and the PAXA ele who chased me in the water for like 40 minutes and had a nice duel with me later, respect. Never seen someone that determined before and you proved yourself individually strong when we dueled after as well. Those skirmishes were quite fun, and intimidating at times too. It was a pity neither of us could finish it in the end.

Spikeless 1v1s? So you don’t want to fight someone that can beat you? You must be the melee ranger that runs away during the 1v1s when you get low.

Oh you seem to misunderstand, I often fight duel style and say spikeless because of the vast majority of fights that I win. And that will come off as arrogant my apologies, its just that the average person out there that chases me runs some fodder zerg build and there’s literally no merit in me smashing a flag into them when I crush them.

If you want to fight me 1 vs 1, with spikes I’m open to that too. Although funny, only time I recall running from a “KoM” tag was in 2 v 1+. I’d attack one of you alone and immediately your buddies would rush in to help.

That the same KoM I’m remembering?

If you’re looking for a 1 v 1 fight to the death, I’m available for such a fight right now, if you’re interested.

3 or 4 of us from KoM 1v1’d you. And every time you would be loosing and start to run away. So we decided to just kill you. No point in wasting time fighting you in a 1v1 for you to just run away when there were so many ET around to kill.

I’ll take you on 1 v 1 if your buddies don’t interfere right now, just name the area. To the death.

atomicjellybean.5389:

Darek.1836:

atomicjellybean.5389:

Jakare.6807:

atomicjellybean.5389:

Why don’t you get a decent wvw population then? Lol

HURR HURR WHY U NO GET MOAR NUMBERZ??? MOARRR NUMBERZ = MOARRR SKILLZ!!1!1!

Guess what kitten face! You’re in the LOWEST TIER. What skill do you think your WvW population possesses, if it can’t get out of the ditch tier with twice our numbers??

Go clean your arrow carts, there’s some white sticky stuff on them.

Um sorry sir, I believe that the word “tier” doesn’t exist anymore when referring to the guild wars 2 ranking system. I believe the match-ups are a bit more randomized…. if you havent realized seeing as how we played BP last week…. HoD would fair perfectly fine against DR and maybe NSP, or it’ll be a lot more of a closer match-up than what you’re giving us right now :P and yes…. I did spill icing on my arrow carts…

by that logic FC is actually better than DR

Not exactly sure how… If you were to look they are beating SF and giving GoM a run for their money…

He’s probably referring to the fact that we had a higher score than DR in IoJ/DR/FC.

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/75

Granted, that was because of DR and IoJ’s strange abusive, violent love relationship, DR would crush us in a server vs server kind of battle from the numbers. Point is though, scores and ppt aren’t always as they seem although in most cases its merely reflected by numbers and coverage, something that isn’t exactly boast worthy either. If you went by scores alone people would of thought that FC could take on DR, but anyone with their heads on right knows otherwise.

Azgarn.2145:

Detharos.3157:

Had some fun with HoD and ET in ET BL this morning.

If you see me, I’m always up for spike-less 1 v 1s, just beckon me and lead me somewhere interference free and take your best shot.

As for all those people from both sides who kept trying to 2/3v1 me and kept dying… no hard feelings, but don’t think I won’t use the water to my advantage when you simply throw numbers at me.

Also @ that random HoD mesmer and the PAXA ele who chased me in the water for like 40 minutes and had a nice duel with me later, respect. Never seen someone that determined before and you proved yourself individually strong when we dueled after as well. Those skirmishes were quite fun, and intimidating at times too. It was a pity neither of us could finish it in the end.

Spikeless 1v1s? So you don’t want to fight someone that can beat you? You must be the melee ranger that runs away during the 1v1s when you get low.

Oh you seem to misunderstand, I often fight duel style and say spikeless because of the vast majority of fights that I win. And that will come off as arrogant my apologies, its just that the average person out there that chases me runs some fodder zerg build and there’s literally no merit in me smashing a flag into them when I crush them.

If you want to fight me 1 vs 1, with spikes I’m open to that too. Although funny, only time I recall running from a “KoM” tag was in 2 v 1+. I’d attack one of you alone and immediately your buddies would rush in to help.

That the same KoM I’m remembering?

If you’re looking for a 1 v 1 fight to the death, I’m available for such a fight right now, if you’re interested.

Had some fun with HoD and ET in ET BL this morning.

If you see me, I’m always up for spike-less 1 v 1s(A duel in other words for people like that poster below who don’t understand what that is.), just beckon me and lead me somewhere interference free and take your best shot.

As for all those people from both sides who kept trying to 2/3v1 me and kept dying… no hard feelings, but don’t think I won’t use the water to my advantage when you simply throw numbers at me.

Also @ that random HoD mesmer and the PAXA ele who chased me in the water for like 40 minutes and had a nice duel with me later, respect. Never seen someone that determined before and you proved yourself individually strong when we dueled after as well. Those skirmishes were quite fun, and intimidating at times too. It was a pity neither of us could finish it in the end.

looks at all the numbers

neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddddddddddddsssssssssssssssssssss!

j/k <3

Don’t worry GoM, its not your fault if a player or two quits.

Personally, I’m starting to think server merges/partial merges are in order. From the WvW perspective at least, there are FAR too many WvW servers present yet FAR too little WvW players willing to spread out evenly to create any long term balanced match-ups outside maybe tier 1. In the end every next tier is drastically more stacked then the previous one, and some are worse than others. Not that tiers mean much anymore though.

There is absolutely no meaning in pitting a significantly smaller WvW population against a much higher one with the only incentive to play against them being rating points, especially when gaining rating points just increases the odds that you will face a stronger server than before.

Eredon’s Furnace Crossing, let it happen!

Maybe instead of worrying about the ranking system, the focus should be to motivate WvW players/guilds to transfer and even out the other servers below them.

I’m even starting to think a partial merge might be preferable, that some servers in lower rankings should be cut out from WvW entirely(FC and ET for example), and offered free transfers to a limited number of servers. (Sort of like a merge, but more limited to the players interested in WvW only.)

Let’s be honest, some servers have kind of long lost their purpose in existing when it comes to WvW. Gaining rating is great for FC and ET and all, but what’s the point of gaining rating if it will always be more of the same.

Somehow, WvW should be more actively separated from PvE also. PvE players reaping beneficial buffs from WvW player’s hard work and not contributing is garbage IMO.

PvE players inflating gem rates for transfers merely by being located on a server when 99% of players who want to transfer only do so to join a new WvW community anyways.. that’s also garbage IMO.

Word is that there’s a gif party going down here. I doubt I can match the epicness of the sleepy fat bunny and adorable owl, however I can try.

Please join them. They are nice peoples and doesn’t afraid of anything. How nice you ask? When one of your longtime opponents makes a recruitment thread for you, you know they’re nice!

I’m not sure what timezone they need covered the most, so I will just say any are welcome.

They have lots of cookies, organized dueling and occasional not-so-secret top secret nude dancing parties east of Stonemist.

Ynot.8397:

Lepew.7890:

Which is it? Isle of Ferguson? Or Crossing of Janir? Not sure who the dominant is and who the submissive is in that relationship.

Well I for one don’t even want the relationship. We will stick with Ferguson’s Crossing thanks.

I wonder how Eredon Terrace would react.

FC: “No.. ET.. we can’t. I… I… I’ve fallen in love with another!”

ET: “No… that’s… NO!! NOOOOO! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO MEEEE!”

FC: “I’m sorry.”

-FC walks out of the room-

-DRAMATIC MUSIC plays, ET breaks down into tears-

-Sorrow’s Furnace walks in the room and starts comforting ET and goes all player trying to pick up ET with their now being available-

Then again, if we were dating ET our relationship was pretty abusive.

Had fun at the fight club. Lots of very capable fighters, and I got to see some room for improvement in my build/skill thanks to it. (Been getting way too reckless lately ><)

I didn’t realize enemies could see your dropped blueprints, guess you learn something new every day. Anyways, if you’re planning to pass on blueprints to other members of your servers its probably best to do it in the spawn point in that case. And if someone from another server has glitched into your spawn and steals it inside that zone, I would report them.

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Detharos.3157:

I know what you IoJ and DR are all thinking: “Ok so who on FC was drunk tonight? Rams on enemy walls, ram wall defense, suicide jumping commanders leading 20 people to their death through fall damage.. wth?”.

A better question is, “Who on FC WAS NOT drunk tonight?”

looks around to see not a single hand raised

You’re totally drunk that shows DR with a ramwall. EVERYONE is drunk.

Nay, we whipped those rams all the way up there ourselves. I should know, three of them or so were mine!

I know what you IoJ and DR are all thinking: “Ok so who on FC was drunk tonight? Rams on enemy walls, ram wall defense, suicide jumping commanders leading 20 people to their death through fall damage.. wth?”.

A better question is, “Who on FC WAS NOT drunk tonight?”

looks around to see not a single hand raised

Who cares if you win or lose? All these sticklers about winning confuse me. Out of three servers in every tier, only one can win. Out of 24 servers every given week, that means only 8 are winners. Typically with the way the tiers have been arranged, only very rarely would we see close enough matches for first and second place to swap and determine a new winner, and in almost all scenarios the third place team was consistent and had no chance to be a “winner” no matter the scenario, and was reduced to playing for second most of the time. For months it was just the same 6-8 “winners” winning over and over with typically favorable-overwhelming odds, I fail to see how that begs any particular merit.

So really, the majority of servers won’t get to experience week by week winning anyways, and who really cares that much about that? If the only boast to that primarily is coverage and numbers, then it really isn’t that big a deal. If you value the match-up you get by the impressive battles contained within rather than some overrated PvDoor determined scoring system and holding a fancy green keep week by week, than you will find enjoyment no matter who your opponent is. Furthermore there is always excitement and enjoyment to be found in meeting new acquaintances, friends, rivals, notable guilds and what not.

Shout-out to our tier 8 bros, Bro’s Terrace, Henge of Bros, and also big bro Sorrow’s Bro-ness.

It’s unfortunate the shuffle ended up this way for all of you. Best you can do now is look the the good fights/battles you do find for enjoyment and pay no mind to the scores.

ET, I really hope you folks recover soon from the tough times you’ve been going through.

SF I must say I still get nostalgic and miss you guys.

Henge, I hope we get a few rematches in the near future with some different third server shuffles, should be interesting if it happens.

Best wishes to all three servers from Dathaul of FC.

Henge of Denravi, vs. Ferguson’s Crossing, vs. Devona’s Rest.

I’d be interested to see how that would turn out.

I think for the most part things are going to be a love-hate relationship with the new system.

There are positives: As someone earlier mentioned, we see many low ranked servers doing much better than expected against their higher tier adversaries. While they aren’t winning, Glicko is properly adjusting their ratings (servers like FC) to reflect more accurately server WvW strength, which will make ratings a lot more accurate a tool to use to predict how match-up will go, assuming things work out consistently. Servers like Kaineng logically SHOULD lose rating when lower ranked servers do much better than expected against them, especially since ratings like those were gained from numbers that they may not necessarily possess currently. (With many having transferred of Kain to my understanding.) So that’s working as intended.

Furthermore you also have the benefit of meeting new servers in battle and making new acquaintances, and getting out of old stale match-ups where the flow of battle and outcome is generally for most deadlocked tiers, predictable until the strongest server finally moves up. The excitement of this alone is a god send to many.

Now as for the negatives, they are pretty severe. You have match-ups like the current tier 8 match-up with SF being paired with HoD and ET. We of FC and ET got to see SF for months, and that they were a tier 6 server was a no-brainer. Seeing them thrown back somewhere where they proved for months that they don’t belong is.. unfortunate, to say the least.

The system seems to be assuming that based on scores and rating, matchup history alone (which is not really a completely accurate measure to go by) that HoD and ET together might stand a chance against SF of at least not being uber-dominated. Unfortunately while HoD is formidable, ET at this time has a terrible numbers issue that isn’t necessarily reflected in ratings and match-up history of their previous opponents and simply won’t be able to keep SF from simultaneously flooring both servers. Issues like that may be corrected overtime as the system acquires more updated data though, we will have to see.

Situations like tier 8 will be happening in other tiers also, and that’s the unforunate weak point of this system.

Another is that hard-earned ratings that some servers were fighting tooth and nail to reach a proper matchup for weeks-months are no longer having the gravity they used to in determining placement, which will upset some. I think EB is in that boat in particular.

Probably this whole package will be received with mixed feelings across the board. For me, from what I’ve seen so far its been enjoyable, but I certainly wouldn’t of been saying that if it was us down with SF right now, so meh.

Pentzski.4620:

Detharos.3157:

Well, I’ve been taking a good break from GW2 to enjoy the summer and focus on more important spare time alternatives. However, returning today for my first engagements with IoJ and Devona’s Rest since this new matchup was arranged, I found myself pleasantly surprised! I didn’t have any troubles like those GoM/HoD 15-man gank squads chasing me half way across the map at all.

All in all it was a very pleasant morning solo run in Devona’s Rest Borderlands and I am very pleased with the IoJ and DR roamer groups I fought. I didn’t see any /dance or /sit /laugh being spammed at all in the few occasions I died (both with IoJ and DR). The atmosphere felt very respectable and thanks to low populations in that borderland I was able to move about pretty freely and find some pretty great opportunities, both for opportunist attacks on groups weakened by camp capping and the occasional duel.

I’m usually looking to find a 1 vs 1 here and there, though I am also known to happily jump into groups of 2-4 also. If anyone spots me and wants a duel, just /point or /beckon me and lead the way to some remote area and I’ll happily fight you as long as I’m not brain dead/in tunnel vision at the moment.

Cheers and good fights.

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxokxDkoOXE Love dat MGR OST <3.

BEST. THEME FOR SOLOING.EVAR!

You’re tanky as kitten, lol. Encountered you a few times this morning. Just a question though, kitten was with the catapult and arrow cart you set up at SE camp? xD

ROFL, I’ve been trying to find out for months what happens when you destroy that bridge on the tower. I have yet to pull it off successfully. (I’ve seriously never seen anyone destroy it, surely its there for more than just cutting off access to that one high point?)

Outside wanting to see what happens with destroying that bridge, it was kind of a lure of sorts I guess? Yeah it was pretty funky though.

Well, I’ve been taking a good break from GW2 to enjoy the summer and focus on more important spare time alternatives. However, returning today for my first engagements with IoJ and Devona’s Rest since this new matchup was arranged, I found myself pleasantly surprised! I didn’t have any troubles like those GoM/HoD 15-man gank squads chasing me half way across the map at all.

All in all it was a very pleasant morning solo run in Devona’s Rest Borderlands and I am very pleased with the IoJ and DR roamer groups I fought. I didn’t see any /dance or /sit /laugh being spammed at all in the few occasions I died (both with IoJ and DR). The atmosphere felt very respectable and thanks to low populations in that borderland I was able to move about pretty freely and find some pretty great opportunities, both for opportunist attacks on groups weakened by camp capping and the occasional duel.

I’m usually looking to find a 1 vs 1 here and there, though I am also known to happily jump into groups of 2-4 also. If anyone spots me and wants a duel, just /point or /beckon me and lead the way to some remote area and I’ll happily fight you as long as I’m not brain dead/in tunnel vision at the moment.

Cheers and good fights.

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxokxDkoOXE Love dat MGR OST <3.

BEST. THEME FOR SOLOING.EVAR!

Edit: Also to pitch in on those numbers debates, I can see where they are coming from. There’s been a lot of times where we can field 50+ in a single map, typically doing highly coordinated zergs on Lukian. Unfortunately we rarely have enough competent commanders in agreement with one another and ESPECIALLY* willing pug players to split off into 2-3 groups moving fluidly around the map and only forming a single zerg when necessary. So yeah, I think we definitely have room for improvement in that. I agree that we could probably do a lot more with the numbers we do have, but it will come in time, when the feelings of comfort allotted in the 50-man zerg balls eventually wear off.

That said I do agree with the other Ferg poster in that we are still highly coordinated (when we’re seriously going with a decent core of non-puggers) in our zergs, and even the former tier 7 servers we’ve come across have often commented on the sheer brutal efficiency our tier 8 zerg balls can bring to the field with good use of flanking/tactical retreats and well timed pushes. That’s all thanks to knowledge and lessons we learned from observing [VK], [Agg] and the other high tier guilds that transferred to tier 8 for short periods. Kudos to them for helping to bring the tactics up in our humble little server.

Come on guys, why so aggravated? We have one of those closest and most consistently close match-ups of a majority of the tiers so far, where who gets green, blue, red team is not deadlocked with 100% certainty like it is in many other tiers. Keep your chins up. 2 servers attacking one simultaneously is a common occurrence, and it happens to all of us. I used to find it frustrating too, but now I think it makes things a lot more exciting and unpredictable. It’s also a natural part of World vs. World. vs. World. (And so far I’ve seen enough complaints from all three servers about it to conclude that it happens almost equally anyways.)

Furthermore, I apologize for the arguments which spawned in the last tier 8 matchup thread as a result of my poke at certain HoD players(and some from other server’s/tiers) with the screenshots of all the big talk we were getting about a false forecast of one-sided domination in prior weeks. It wasn’t my intention to cause all the strife that followed or to kick HoD while it was down, I meant it to be a playful forum poke hinting to the irony of the situation, and not a flame bait. Despite that, I admit it had an intentionally arrogant and pretentious tone to it, and apologize once again for that.

zastari.1730:

Whoa someone made this dude mad enough to link like 50 screenshots of forum posts. I don’t know which HoD forum warriors pulled off this astounding feat but you have my respect!

Mad? If I was angry about it, I would of included three times as much content from the countless other threads we battled in. Besides, a lot of the HoDomination hype was from completely different servers, so no biggie.

Still, gotta call out people on their promises.

While I’m at it though, shout-out for Moobs, Ungood, Katz, Ynot, Rikkity, Manoa and even FilthyRat and the countless individuals who worked hard in the forums to get tier 8 the attention it so deserved.

Things have turned out well, I must say.

Yo Henge of Denravi! We of Ferguson’s Crossing and Eredon Terrace still waiting on that domination you promised us.

Where is it? Oh what, did you forget all that crap talk? Well I remember.

Here, let’s refresh your memory with some forum screenshots.

“The Ferg Zerg”.. that reminds me of those times when Devona’s Rest players called us Zerguson’s Crossing (Generally in some ironic retaliation to everyone on the forums complaining about the superior numbers they yielded.)

TheDesertWolf.6724:

Note: i am by no means a key player in my realm, there are many people much bigger than me, i’m just calling it how i see it.

I hear people see things quite differently when they’re high on Super adventure box shrooms.

From a tier 8 player:

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Look at our score distribution. Now look at your tier’s score distribution. Back to ours. Now back to yours.

Sadly, it isn’t as close a match as ours. BUT, if you started fighting with everything you’ve got like we do in tier 8 instead of QQing on forums about guild transfers and timezone coverage, it could be like ours.

Walk into our Eternal Battlegrounds. SM flips every hour or so. People are able to get their map completion with the occasional keep attacks occurring every week, instead of moaning on the forums about massive imbalance. Now walk into your tier’s Eternal Battlegrounds. You just lost your keep. Now back to ours. A parade of baby quaggans is marching to every spawn point in the map while HoD guilds host a massive costume brawl party near Veloka.

Enter our borderlands. Lukian’s playing music on FC teamspeak while Saul screams like a madman about *CENSORED*ing a dolyak. Now to your server teamspeak. Someone just told you to “Shut the Kitten Up” at the slight suggestion of playing music, because WvW in high tiers is srs business, with no room for humour.

You try to launch a naked dancer roamer group near Sunnyhill, and immediately run into a massive zerg enforcing an anti-nudity law no matter what time it is. Meanwhile tier 8, the tier you wish yours could look like enjoys competitive fights and a friendly forum environment.

Anything’s possible when you’re in tier 8. You should transfer to Ferguson’s Crossing instead!

I’M ON A DOLYAK.

WhiteRose.6934:

Kinda sad how the only way FC can take on two of us is by gathering everyone on the map together. The more people you bring the more flattered I feel. ~

Yeah, cause I’m so sure our server needs 50+ to kill you and any less, say 40+ only… well you won’t be able to kill them but you could totally kitten them around the map for 2 hours without dying and effectively solo the whole server right? 20+ you can definitely solo though, let us of FC bow down and worship your GW2 skills.

….. Yeah, Lolno.

Iskandor.9415:

Hey, Dathaul, as the other vocal resident FC Ranger, from one to another: what pets do you run? Alice keeps giving me crap because I’m not that big a fan of dogs and instead run a Boar (for Gunk/Ethereal fields) and Reef Drake (for Confusion in big fights + Blast finisher.)

Really, I only swap in dogs when I am roaming (and then go Hyena for double knockdown or Wolf for panic F2 when downed)

If I’m running solo or in small groups, I always run dual wolf for the knockdowns, fear and chill which I can alternate nicely with my hydromancy sigils chilling foes when I weap swap. When I run in the zerg, it feels like it doesn’t make a whole big difference what I run with but I will generally try to do dual drakes for the blast finishers (If only we had a say in when and where they use them though :/ ) or fern hound/blue moa for the controllable AoE heal and AoE protection, sometimes dual moas while defending a tower or keep.

I do the occasional kittenination on upleveled characters just for fun too.

I use almost every type of pet depending on the circumstances. Ursine pick up items can be great too. Back when culling was still an issue, I bolstered my survivability with the siamoth feathers a lot. I’m still pretty new when it comes to combo fields, and our commanders never really call for poison or ethereal, but if they contribute well I would definitely rotate out the respective pets a bit more also.

If I’m concerned that I could end up in a 1 vs 1, or 1 vs 2+ fight at some point I’m always running the wolves during that time though, even if I have a zerg not far off. I absolutely HATE being jumped while I have moas or drakes out almost as much as I hate getting jumped while I’m building up Agony and Master’s bond stacks. (Wrong weapon/trait!) Truth be told where pets are concerned its an unfortunate reality that we are not given much control over pet’s contribution to zergs outside a few pets.

Boars are also a great choice if you use “Protect me” like I do, since they are quite tanky. It’s one of the reasons I can’t make cats work well in most scenarios, they die too fast from lack of toughness and vitality on their own when a player decides to target them specifically, let alone when I shift my damage to them. I also do still roll dual canine even in the midst of the zerg despite being more of a solo pet. There’s just something to be said about the knockdown they offer.

TallDan.6350:

I’ll agree with that in part, we do have a few larger guilds who only play for a few hours and go on the offensive without upgrading but my point above stands there are reasons we don’t upgrade as much as we should and it’s a hangover from all the times our upgraded keeps have suffered from pvdoor. What is the point of upgrading if it is gone the next time you login? I think we need to (probably will never) need to sort our coverage somehow but I’m not sure if we will.

Let me be clear I’m not looking down on you; I was around not only for the SF days, but for the Kain and Devona’s Rest days as well. I empathize with that feeling, unfortunately there are times where its neccesary regardless. We had SM fully upgraded and many things surrounding it despite knowing that the moment we no longer have the coverage to secure our EB stuff (We do still have weak points in coverage at certain hours where HoD is strong) a vicious HoD counter-attack would likely retake the whole map anyways.

Upgrades in these scenarios become like siege. You have to keep buying it and keep using it, and timing and placing it well.

Also from some personal observations in the ET EB zergs, only one seemed really well coordinated, the one that hit us at Durios and tried to take Bravost. They numbered about 40-50; their formation was very tight and they popped combo fields on occasion. As a result, they met great success.

At other times, there were ET zergs with similar numbers but they were too spread out (not in zerg ball formations) that entire sections of the ET zerg could be eliminated before every member would even enter combat. So the other thing is that, more ET commanders need to start utilizing those Agg/VK/high tier tactics of maintaining a tight, very mobile zerg ball formation. Clearly there are some very competent ET commanders; hopefully they will be sharing/passing down those tactics to the other commanders who want to step-up, and explaining why they work well. It’s not enough just to have some really good commanders, the standard eventually has to become the norm for the other commanders also. That’s largely what we’ve been working on here, although its a learning process for those of us who are still accustomed the pre-Agg/pre-VK days of tier 8 fighting when combo fields weren’t being utilized readily and groups of 40 people formed a line behind the commander rather than a ball.

Lol, double teaming talk again? We almost took all of EB. That means we’re taking on both other servers in EB, and winning. Albeit, at a time where you were both weaker and had the outmanned buff. There is no double team, or secret alliance. Look at the screenshot from the player above. Obviously, HoD is not in bed with FC. It’s a matter of coverage issues, and tactical errors and what not that generally hurts a server’s score.

I’ll even let you in on a secret. Lukian wanted to avoid ET side and knock HoD into third place as a kind of payback for all the trash talk that thrown from HoD players in the pre-SF-moveup days, but every time we’d be focusing on HoD, some cornball FoE or TFor/KWBH/TAC zerg would come out of nowhere into the green side while we were pushing and try to interfere in our battles or attempt to take advantage on HoD’s counterattacks again us to cap some of our towers. You wouldn’t lose overlook nearly as often if you would stop pestering Stonemist with trebs and drawing attention to it either. Teamspeak that night was full of Lukian exclaiming “GO HOME ET, YOU’RE DRUNK!” “RECLAIM YOUR OWN BORDER FIRST THEN COME HERE DUDES” every time you guys popped up during the most random times and senselessly went into attack mode.

But no, you were not willing and would not have any of it, so we counter-attacked and crushed you first. It was convenient for HoD at least, they got to re-upgrade the SM-proximity towers that we had paper-ized while we focused on you.

I’m not trying to trash talk, just stating facts. This double team talk is getting old, and its 100% false. You’re behind FC because you dedicate far too much to random offense when you should of been holding up in your EB side and upgrading your stuff gradually, like WE DID.

Stop overextending yourself Eredon Terrace, every server has its weak points. We overextended plenty of times ourselves and wiped at overlook once, and lost some engagements. Stop marching out of EB red side while 90% of your side is paper and ramming into FC’s business, or people are going to focus on you and take advantage of that paper level defense. There is a time for offense, and a time for cautious defensive play. You’re not acting on what you need very often in EB this week.

You’ll get past this, but some of your commander just need to slow down and rethink the moves they keep repeating.

Things change quickly in tier 8.

Score update for all the followers who aren’t logged in/in other tiers.

Ferguson’s on fire today.

Since 99% of really good confusion mesmers are using +40% condi duration food buffs, a 50% duration reduction doesn’t sound too unrealistic at all. It allows other players to experiment with food buffs outside -the 36/40% condi duration food buffs, which to me always felt like a waste of a food buff slot. Alternatively they could of removed food entirely, but since they’re intent on keeping it playing an active roll, other players should not have to feel forced into utilizing a single food buff out of all the other appealing options just to counter things like extended confusion duration.

Besides, let’s admit that confusion builds have become over-saturated in the mesmer community. At least this should force some players into a little more build variety. It does after all get awkward when more than 85% of every mesmer you fight is just a matter of stopping your attacks and waiting for condition removal to kick in. The lack of originality and available diversity in builds tends to be what people complain about the most when its present in a class anyways.

We made some mistakes on reset, but we certainly got our act back together. Good work Fergs, even hit 360 ppt at one point. Good work to HoD on the Garrison fight, that was fun while it lasted.

Quick question, where is the video/source for all this? I had heard from someone that pets would be getting a significant AI buff (some are still awful at hitting moving targets) and hit the forums.. pleasantly surprised to see that there is more to it than that.

Can someone share a link for me plox?

Nice to see you doing well, big bro Sheen/SF. Remember all that “SF will get dominated the moment it moves up to tier 7” trash talk that was flying from just about every server outside of tier 8?

Yeah, what can I say? “WINNING! WIN HERE, WIN THERE, WIN, WIN! EVERYWHERE!”

And for the person using the tier 4 wall to trash talk, that’s not going to work. SF as a server has only ever wanted to end up in a tier where they have an approximately even match, they’re not looking to be the next Kaineng or Jade Quarry. Odds are they will find a good match in tier 5 if not in tier 6. I would get off that if I were you, it’s not gonna work.

Sorrow’s Furnace will just keep doing its thing like it always has.

Welcome to tier 8 HoD! Ignore the lone ET accusing you of weird conspiracies, for the entirety of the previous night and a half or so, and countless times before that ET groups were reaping the benefit of GoM focus firing us and ignoring ET, and someone was still running their mouth claiming we were double teaming ET. I also remember last night having an massive HoD zerg on one side and ET on the other, unfortunately we made the mistake of trying to split our forces to handle both simultaneously for a while; when we got together was when we started rolling. The fact is, commanders can, and will take advantage of opportune times presented when a server is active in one other’s BL or EB portion and sweep up some under-defended towers and keeps, it happens to everyone, not just ET exclusively.

I’d actually say it happened a lot more to FC last week than FC when Gomnom started its regular marches in our borderland.