Guild Wars 2

Romek.4201:

you even read what you write?

and to call everything a blob gets boring and make you not looking smarter

all you wannabeguilds whining in forum bout blobs and enemy more and all this are like this warriors in spvp thinking they are overskilled and can ignore the team cause they can solo the mid and run all the match vs 2-3 people and die and spam than all day “wahwahwahhhhhhhhh you can only 3v1” " buuuuuuuuuh noooobs"

grow up

This can only be written by an unknown unsung hero of the Elona bus. Why you even about guilds, oh nameless pug?

terminatorkobold.6031:

Empyre, if it was so how come warriors get so many block, invuln (GS skill 3 for examples gives invuln frames, not only endure pain does) and others active defense mechanism while also having big HP and Armor. I’d agree with you if they had none of it but as it stands low HP classes just get low HP and gain the same as others already have.

I think we can’t compare specific classes’ skills against eachother, but rather have to compare the whole picture/style of a class.
Warrior is imho meant as a tank or dps class, that is powered by raw dps (e.g. grandmaster crit and dmg traits) and raw healing (healing surge), their healing signet is just over the top for its purpose to supplement a tank build. After the changes to condition meta, fixing stun sigil (rounding of duration) and reduced regen on the signet warriors will be in a whole different light. Still good and useful , but not over the top anymore.

We should rather look at where the Ele needs to be better. That is balancing risk vs reward (dps w/o water line and tankish support style in its varieties) and bringing back old builds to their original usefulness, even if it means changing the current condition meta = changing other classes, which is already on ANet’s radar, but takes too long to come on live servers.
Always keep in mind that pve BALANCE and wvw are just byproducts of spvp balance, there’s no intention to balance especially for either of the game modes, a) pve is too easy anyway and the challenge (if there’s any) is in mass organisation rather then individual skills b) wvw = casual game mode, anything goes, just adding carrots rather then fixing broken stuff.

Rane.4079:

Empyre.2531:

Lahel.6381 got it right. Every class can win a good d/p thief if he/she stays for the fight. Most thieves will just retreat and come back another day in wvw when they get too low/run out of cds. I’d consider this a win, since it’s the only class that can reset the fight at any point (if specced for it). That’s like moving away from a point in current spvp, mission failed.

Did you actually read any of the thread, because he didn’t say anything like that, and we just discussed how this is totally not beating a Thief because they’re stopping you capturing camps, but you aren’t stopping them from doing it. This is WvW, not DuelWars.

When they run I capture the sentry/camp and that’s a win, even by your definition. IF they happen to come back, then we just rinse and repeat until the point is flipped.

… and no I didn’t read the thread after I found his first statement, which is spot on.

Lahel.6381 got it right. Every class can win a good d/p thief if he/she stays for the fight. Most thieves will just retreat and come back another day in wvw when they get too low/run out of cds. I’d consider this a win, since it’s the only class that can reset the fight at any point (if specced for it). That’s like moving away from a point in current spvp, mission failed.

Ele, like Guardian, gets low hp pool because they are meant as high regen (perma regen, soothing mist, +hp on water attunement; Altruistic healing on guard, Monk’s focus) classes and defensive boon coverage (prot, aegis). Downside is that it limits on builds if you compare against the whole variety of traits. If ANet thinks it’s sooo uberly important to have that kind of classes, speccing OUT of it should lead to a more massive damage increase then we currently have, risk vs reward, or making it a baseline feature that is build-in (I prefer the first).

Swapping the current warrior heal signet on ele and removing soothing mist would be an idea, also roleplay-wise it would make more sense if a warrior leeched hp per hit, they aren’t holy knights. (( This is kinda the wrong way to handle this, warrior signet needs a nerf, but that one is already incoming ))

fire 4: no idea that couldn’t be found on other skills/weapons ele already got, seems like a pointless left-over from attempted cond ele. Maybe burn boons as others recommended.
fire 5: reduce cd to 25/30s
water 4: aoe
water 5: increase radius
air 4: fine
air 5: reduce kd duration + aoe or add swiftness (10+s)
earth 4/5: fine

fire #4 and water #4 are definitly most lacking and should be looked into by ANet.

The stat stacking/wep switching has to go, it’s simply a left-over from ANet’s wonky coding. It’s not possible in ranked pvp, so it wasn’t intended, else people could switch in every part of the game.
It simply cannot be ANet’s intention to have 3 mandatory sigils in their game and then an exchangable weapon on top.

Poor coding that they didn’t fix yet.

GW2 is just lore from GW1, rest is totally new, not everything for the better.

Also,YES GW2 spvp is in VERY bad shape for all the money and ressources they put into it. It was their prime focus, yet, it’s a non-factor game in terms of e-sports.

The way the OP describes the situation it was one too much stealth.

Ok, I look at last match vs SFR. I can’t see any Viz lead during prime (except thursday evening when noone cared to play anymore), even Kodash is better sometimes and they are a desert. SFR is just a nightcap server, so that isn’t even a good example for good prime.

Reread what you posted back then and see how you got two-faces if what you say is true. I think I said that back then, “you do all this for a server, as ungrateful as yours?”
Might have been Leocryn instead okittengface though, but doesn’t matter they are all kittenheads.

All the trash and garbage on JOL, yet everyone is there to make it represent a viable average of your server.

Nice pep talk, but the effect was nowhere seen ingame, crushed every time a server had more coverage. If anything, medicore on prime, when most of the top5 servers can field equal numbers.

You don’t even know when people left your server (quitting game etc), the core is maybe stable, but the enviroment is fractal, just you got enough pu to fill most spots when left open.

Ye, everyone who plays on Viz is representing your community, that’s what you are proud of? Everyone being part of the community. So yes, those 5% lamers (you got 5% nobheads on your server, gg, that’s prolly 99% more then every other server got) do represent Viz and I take what they say down on the server. You covered Kingface in the past as far as I can remember, so I have to assume you share his view internally too.

Why should I appreciate something that is contrary to my every belief in gaming?

Remember how your fellow realmmembers, your soulful server, kittentalked on other servers when they were winning and nowhere to be seen when losing? Have you ever read JOL forums? The hate towards eachother when nightcapping got you nowhere in the matchup? Nice community. Face it, your community hasn’t got more soul or dedication then any other. It’s a greater challenge in a multi-language and mentality enviroment. Viz was just more stacked then others at that time or why did your “nightcap” suddenly collapse when there was a server with more people at night?

Lol, nice Troll on SFR community Troma, I have to give you that.

Viz never asked other guilds to come? Don’t make me laugh, maybe you didn’t but surely other parts of leadership within GC alliance did.

We all know what was said on Viz meeting, you reported my post on it, lol’d, go ahead and try to lull sfr to sleep, I hope they’ll crush (= night- and morning cap the kitten out of you, during prime we know Viz was never good) you once more.

If you didn’t realise, it doesn’t matter who is there to make a server “full”. Your all french speaking pu aren’t better then any of the russian, american whatever pu on SFR.

Dutchares.6084:

Like I suggested many times: a very easy way to solve this, is make objectives less worth (PPT wise) when their are lesser enemies in the zone.
So a zone with both enemies having queues (so full) you get the normal score for objectives you hold. Having almost none enemies in the zone means you get almost 0 points for your objectives in the zone.

That means a server plays and has a massive lead after the weekend, where almost all servers have full zones, then avoid wvw for the rest of the week and win, because enemy doesn’t get points?
Sounds wrong.

NOOBLIKE.3042:

Ok and against a undefended tower also blobbing @Wolfheart? I mean its 3 in the morning… Happy PVD’ing strong #1 Server
https://i.imgur.com/0cT53bK.jpg

Poor poor SFR

It’s 3 in the afternoon, not morning. 14:51

What kind of troll is this?

…and no comm on ebg at 15, while being #5 in the ranking, that’s how kittened up it is.

Where’s the difference between stacking the server with so many french speaking pugs that you got a massive nightshift for over a year and NA nightshifters?

You had so many zombies that it didn’t matter if some people took a week off, remember your bi-weekly rythm on playing for points? Viz slacked and still dominated the matchup. Guess why, it’s so stacked with pu, it doesn’t matter if your guilds play, 1 commander with a horde of pu will secure the victory at night.

Way to fail to whine about someone who has NA nightshift and is looking for more.

But to make you feel less bitter Troma, you got rolled by less stacked servers then SFR before, talking about dedication.

Seuche.4809:

buahaha we are only 20 and outnumbered buff all time but want zbs a sparring 20vs20 ? show your skills and your balls !

That from #1 gvg avoider EU?

“Sorry we can’t gvg with our 100+ roster for a whole week, we only can play with fixed 20” I lol’d

Myrmidone.4362:

My dear friend, as you know there is national holiday in Germany right now, calm down;-).
RS faced that kitten too against BB,SFR, and Vizu.
Have fun.

Greets Myrmi

You are fighting BB atm, if you didn’t realise, talking about the past is kinda pointless.
+695 is only possible if the enemy doesn’t care. Noone can protect all camps on every map at the same time.

Why I need to calm down? I’m chilllleedddd.

Good sign for wvw when the #6 #8 servers care so much about wvw ppt that the 3rd faction, which isn’t necessarly much higher in ranking, can go +695.

Maybe balance, not actual player balance, but balance in what objective/goal they have in the game, so that finally “open field” servers will play against eachother and the “ppt” players can do their thing in other matchups, can finally be achieved. Now let’s hope that the rating gap widens more, so that matchups between ppt vs open field become less likely.

PS: RS sucks.

Marcos.3690:

silvermember.8941:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Ostricheggs.3742:

Marcos.3690:

JonPeters.5630:

Sept 17th = no balance
Oct 1st = yes balance

Hello

FYI this is why they don’t tell us what the patch notes are. If people like you are going to nit-pick at a single discrepancy which was already publicly addressed then how the hell do you expect them to release a fluid set of notes subject to change?

They said the patch will be on the 15th. Chill the kitten out people.

Fine but the context is that october 1st is already 2 months after people wanted changes. So don’f forget that. If they delay something which already got delayed for stupid reasons then people should not accept it.

We were told 2 weeks ago in an official pre-release balance patch notes that we will get balance on october 15, This automatically superceded any previous mentioned of october 1, to anybody that doesn’t like to QQ for the sake of QQ.

We have a lot to QQ about (as an ele I do), but this isn’t one of them.

Anyway who cares about spvp? Devs clearly don’t.

>> WvW seasons ftw

Come to wvw forums.

“The devs don’t care about wvw, only spvp” and now official Anet developers even start to harass in wvw while wearing their Anet tag. I think they intentionally want to ruin their game.

Demannu.2805:

Sorry guys SFR got into that matchup somehow so ZDs came and took whole Aug map, sadly we had no time b4 they shut it down to take rest of Deso as well

AR, with no night cap, no day cap and a solid primetime only 19k points behind SFR. Way to fail, +1000 rating for us that match-up, but keep posting more of your fail.

To russia with love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sEx6eTmqHw

Pegaasus.3280:

Arenanet next time..Test the Updates and then launch them.
You’ re Killing this game becouse you never test anything..
That’ s why you killed ranger class

See the 1k+ posts thread to see where their testers are.

Myrmidone.4362:

btw…………Empyre wir kennen deine “Liebe” für Riverside nen kittenen Schmatzer zurück;-)

Wenn du denkst ich mag RS nicht, dann hast du noch nicht meine Meinung über andere Server gehört, aber kitten du zufrieden bist, ihr seid auch fett kitten.

Greets Empyi

RS on bb bl was one hand holding blob glob as well, so I guess the “offensive guilds” took a time out for this matchup.

Fay.2735:

I know people are annoyed but really this isn’t the way to go about it. To single out one person and hold him responsible for all the wrong done and frustrations just isn’t fair on that person regardless of setting.

Seeing his position in the company he has more influence on implementing gvg then say an EVENtual character model designer has.

Sir Arthur.8905:

Please someone close this thread. I am ashamed to be a member of this player base. I apologize on behalf of the GW2 community for these needlessly sarcastic, nonconstructive, and exaggerated comments.

We all know two wrongs don’t make a right, and there a about a hundred wrongs on this thread. GvG in WvW is as intended as ember farming was. Unfortunately, the situation will not be resolved until a separate mode is made for guilds wanting to do so. However, when it does happen, know that it is because Anet has already planned to do so, not because the “GvG” community griefed them into it.

Everyone effects this game and other players. These “gvg” battles ARE a contributing factor to some people avoiding wvw. I am one of those people, and I hope your issue is resolved so that I can enjoy wvw a bit more.

There are pve elements in wvw that contribute NOTHING to the outcome of the week, alone from this fact we can conclude that ANet’s intend for wvw was not only and exclusively the play for PPT.

@Riondron.1069,

why do you quote rules for pvp? Wvw isn’t pvp by Anet’s definition. Sadly, all your arguments are invalid and your time wasted. :/

@courin.2314
Kill trading, that is the best thing I’ve ever heared. Are you believing what you write?
A leading dev who doesn’t know what happens near the windmill in “his game”? If anything, does he have to observe from the middle of the area? He can’t read enemy /say chat anyways to be in proximity to both sides. So why he has to be in the middle?
It’s obvious that he was just there to troll, harass and relief his frustration, which is 100% against the ToS and CoC. Bannable behaviour and therefore should be strictly punished, just like ANet does punish their players. Or are we players, 2nd or 3rd class?

On top, not the first time a person with ANet tag interfered with a gvg. Happened not too long ago on the EU servers as well, but that ANet guy was clever enough to port right away before it escalated and take the train he brought with him away from the spot. Why wasn’t it the case this time? Intentional harrassment.

Slayer Lord.5023:

Seeing many of you here are GvG, you might not like what I have to say. I still feel I should say it from my own opinion. I would support and official GvG arena, but I don’t like GvG.

The reason being is that you all take up valuable WvW space for those who want to WvW. In that way, your not thinking of your fellow players. Whether or not Anet supports it or hates it, I would rather see valuable space going to even a random person who wants to WvW. If they can’t get in a map, you interfere with their fun. One should not be selfish.

GvG might contribute some, but not much to WvW. I do wish for some official support for those who enjoy it, but I don’t see the value of it when my rear is out there fighting the good fight and others really are not. See it from other players view. Not just yours or even Anet’s.

You are selfish for wanting the spaces for what you think is fun.

Think of your fellow gvg’er and stay out of the gvg zone, much appreciated.

Keep in mind when your side does gvg, they will take out a part of your enemies’ force as well, most likely the largest threat that could be in the zone to face you. If you play for PPT, then you should be happy that you are left with a) lesser ppl to fight (think lag!) b) a harsh contender for your PPT less to face.

Burnfall, you want to say in all sincerity that a lead dev doesn’t know what is going a the windmill on borderlands? You in all sincerity think he doesn’t know that the gvg community is very picky about harassement. To me it seems he was trying to provoce the players and then show off with his tag.
To say at last, it failed and shows his true character and leaves a very foul aftertaste on the company who pays his bills.

Burnfall.9573:

Infact, all of those GvG’s who insulted and humiliated that Arena.net staff should be forever banned.

There must be examples set for others to know and remember that insulting, mocking, belittling and disresepecting any ingame Arena.net staffs, must not be tollerated at any given time.

As the saying goes, “the way you treat others, so shall you be treated in return”

“show no Remorse, so shall you be treated without Remorse in return”

Embrace yourselves to be Repayed and Disciplined.

Totally agree with you, foul language needs consequences, but in this case it would also end bad for the dev if ANet doesn’t want to be known as treating same things differently, so I guess ANet rather says nothing and DOES nothing then prosecute players and let one of their dev in lead get a way. Again, it’s not a random on their company, he is in charge of a whole “aspect” of creating a game.

Ye, the streets already know the name of the person responsible, so I see no point in ANet further trying to conceal it, but it’s their call.

And the dev post on here actually does make a claim towards that guy’s position “not on the wvw team”, because that obviously makes the deed less harmful.

They are playing the game the way they want, the way ANet says they want it to be played.
The gvgers are in a seperate part of the map, if you come there to “stand around” it’s certain you don’t have good intentions. If you kill someone, ye go ahead, the gvg guilds are organised enough to have you be killed easily by the enemy team.

About queues, ye you create a queue just like a gvger does. Nothing wrong, you both play the game the way you want, again, the way ANet wants you to play.

mrstealth.6701:

Empyre.2531:

You better not interfere with my fun when I gvg.

I would have no reason or desire to interfere with a gvg that isn’t causing any issues for wvw’ers.

That limitation is what is wrong in your argument. Gvg is on equal level with wvw as it’s not violating any rule set by Anet. So basically if you harass a gvg that is, in your opinion interfering with wvw as they e.g. dont defend your keep, you are the only one doing wrong.

mrstealth.6701:

Empyre.2531:

ANet should reveal the name of that lead which was harassing the innocent players tbh. Would shed further light on how they think about wvw/gvg internally.

That would be about the worst thing they could possibly do. Gaming communities in general have proved again and again that they cannot act with any decency when given the chance to personally attack a dev that has offended them in some way. Releasing this person’s name would likely result in a social media harassment campaign.

And it does nothing to “shed light on” the company’s opinion of gvg. The company’s overall stance on it is the product of the accumulated beliefs of everyone on the wvw and pvp teams. This employee’s actions represent his or her personal opinion. According to Chris Whiteside, the person in question is not even on the wvw team.

He’s not on the wvw team yes, but he’s a lead in an uberly important part of the game’s development and even more implementation.

mrstealth.6701:

Tellerion.8102:

Certain people still seem to feel obligated to point out what other people can and cannot do in WvW. Let me stress once again, that I’ve paid for this game in the same way you have, so am I not allowed to find enjoyment in other aspects of this gametype, that might not necessarily cater towards your vision of what WvW should be like? (As long as it’s within the rules of the game of course)

The most important part is that it’s WvW, not GvG. WvW is in the intended and designed game format, so of course that takes priority. GvG is not “another aspect of this gametype”, it’s a separate player-generated gametype that happens on the same maps.

As you point out, we all paid for the game, so I should not be denied enjoyment from playing wvw because someone else wants to use that map for their own unrelated purpose.

There is a huge difference between saying “you can’t gvg” and “don’t gvg when it will interfere with wvw”
What I am saying is the latter. Have your gvg, but you need to realize that it can, and does in some cases, infringe upon the wvw community.

You better not interfere with my fun when I gvg.

ANet should reveal the name of that lead which was harassing the innocent players tbh. Would shed further light on how they think about wvw/gvg internally.

KOPPER.1458:

“The players did nothing wrong, they just got angry because some people disturb their game.Its similar to provoking a lion and get eaten up as usual.It’s the response you are expecting to get.”

I think you should watch the video again and look at the players immediate responses. That is not how you respond to people. Players wonder why others are viewing the community as Toxic. This is the reason.

You mean as toxic when the "WvW"ers call out a noobie who is randomly putting a ram at a door or does build a treb facing the wrong direction? Your finger pointing is unnecessary as it happens on every community.

mrstealth.6701:

Empyre.2531:

Funny guy.. you know where the “wvw community” would be without the dedicated guild out there that do gvg?

Those players would most likely still be doing wvw. The fact that many of these gvg’ers also participate in wvw isn’t really a factor.

There’s no room in wvw for gvg, says who? Read the ToS, CoC etc.. the only one who did something wrong was the Anet official by harassing other players. Gvg is not against any rule from Anet, so yes, the only one offended by gvg or doing wrong (ban-worthy behaviour) is you (and everyone else moaning about it or harassing).

Technically, you could apply the ‘match manipulation’ rule to gvg. The text of it says “pvp” not “spvp”, and wvw should qualify as a form of pvp even though it doesn’t follow the spvp format. It’s a bit of a stretch to do so, but if Anet chose to enforce it as such, the rule is there and could very well apply.

As far as wrong-doing in the recent incident, there is just as much, if not more, wrong with the gvg participants’ actions. Almost immediately resorting to insults, name calling, and inappropriate language doesn’t earn them much sympathy. Would they have acted any differently if the person standing in the middle was legitimately unaware of what was going on? They were very quick to assume that he was there to troll them, so I think they would have done the same if it was just an unknowing bystander.

An Anet dev not knowing what is going on in their own game and therefore interfering unintentionally? Yes, I would believe that seeing how Anet patches, they don’t play their own game. Besides that his written word shows he’s well aware of what he is doing. Intentional harrassement = ban for normal people.

“Those players would most likely still be doing wvw. The fact that many of these gvg’ers also participate in wvw isn’t really a factor.”

So why do you care if what they do is a non-factor for the game?

More then often the gvg guilds are highly organised and share this organisation with teh server, be it either experienced commanders with a solid core to back him/her up, hosting server wide comms, hosting server forums etc. If those gvgers didn’t exist at all, meaning they wouldn’t play gvg nor wvw at all you’d have is more prey for your organised enemy. No smaller force you could reliably send to a keep to take it while your 75 pu zergball is somewhere else.

Be careful what you wish for.

Magnetron.5823:

That makes the whole WvW community sick, we know you guys want GvG and if there was an arena for it I would probally try it out too. But for now there is no room in WvW for it, well maybe when you have a +600 tick and already won the week I can understand you guys just want to have fun.

Funny guy.. you know where the “wvw community” would be without the dedicated guild out there that do gvg? At least half the servers would be without organisation, without commanders with a solid guild core, without serverwide voice comms, everyone would be a headless chicken. Just look at how your server plays when there is not commander tag up or a commander tag but noone on server wide comms, you get annihilated as soon as there’s more then 20 organised enemies. Is that what you want by calling out gvg guilds?

There’s no room in wvw for gvg, says who? Read the ToS, CoC etc.. the only one who did something wrong was the Anet official by harassing other players. Gvg is not against any rule from Anet, so yes, the only one offended by gvg or doing wrong (ban-worthy behaviour) is you (and everyone else moaning about it or harassing).

Theftwind.8976:

Think about it this way.

Server “A” only GvGs against Server “B”. That is all they do for 7 days is GvG while server “C” plays the game as designed by capping all the objectives. At the end of those 7 days which server would have the highest score? Anyone care to do the math?

The answer to that question should end this argument.

The server which has the best coverage 24/7 regardless if people gvg or not. You didn’t learn anything over the last year?

Riondron.1069:

For your information, we “PPT idiots” are the ones that care about “winning” a game mode that by definition (and correct me if I’m wrong – you will anyway) is designed to have a ‘winner’ and basically 2 “losers” at the end of the week. Please forgive us “PPT addicts” for purchasing the game and playing it as it was DESIGNED for. Yes we care about ‘winning a game’, just like any professional sports team or Olympic athlete does. Ever heard of a team not caring about winning the Superbowl? And what is wrong with 2 groups getting together to battle? Absolutely nothing…except…there is also that ‘third’ group out there that takes advantage of the ‘missing’ players to start capping upgraded keeps like crazy. That third group is the smart one here, as they troll the forums to see when the matches are taking place, use it to their advantage, and make the gvg’ers look like fools to everyone else. And you still wonder why wvw’ers gripe at gvg’ers? If you really must gvg, then go play Battlefield 3 on a rented server…those types of games are designed for gvg or team vs team, and everyone will be happy Gw2 is designed for wvw, or server vs server vs server. Period.

GW2 is designed for players having fun in any way that is within the measurements and restrictions of CoC, ToS etc.. and gvg definitly is not off limits. Unlike the behaviour of the ANet representative who is griefing players.

mrstealth.6701:

It’s wrong when it interferes with other players’ ability to play and enjoy the game. That’s not always the case, but it does happen.

Everyone is allowed to play the game the way they want and in this case a wvw dev was intefering with the gvg community within wvw. So yes, it applies to both sides. The Anet representative gave a kitten and interfered which is by your standards mrstealth not acceptable.

Or does only the gvg community have to take care they don’t interfere with anyone else? Where does it say that wvw is only allowed to be played as a PPT game (why are mobs/NPCs in the lakes, which is basically pve content with no relation (no PPT change) to wvw standards)?

Taldren.7523:

So wait, you GvG lamers locked down a whole zone with queue times from people that actually wanted to use it for its intended purpose and its ANets fault for pointing out that you doing so?

I have a few ideas of what ANET can do with your GvG bs.

:D

You mean ANet locked down players wanting to have fun in their game, which is like their own #1 rule. I have an idea for you…

KOPPER.1458:

There is no simple solution right now. It is not as simple as make an empty map and let them go at it. Anet has in that past and I am sure in the future put their own spin and polish on features.

They didn’t just want LFG, the wanted their LFG, They want their story, dungeons, raiding, etc etc.

They want to add GVG but it will have additional features, this takes time and resources. Resources they clearly don’t have right now. You want them just to release something, anything to do with GVG, this is not how they operate.

Their code can’t handle anything that would resemble current gvg format (15v15 or 20v20).
It was tested, it was denied on financial aspects (they don’t want to buy/host more servers). If they say it’s coming, yes, maybe some day, but they haven’t started developing it yet nor have they allocated ressources that go beyond brainstorming on a clean white sheet of paper.

Natronix.9827:

Stop crying to anet. Jesus its the players fault for stacking on the same server and creating imbalances, anet do not have and never will have control over it.

ANet encourages stacking, be it on servers or actually in a zergball. So yes, they are partly to be blamed as well.

Who talked about happy/unhappy. For me personally, I don’t care, I’d have been fine with no reaction on these forums at all, but them coming up here clearly show that they feel they have been caught out especially with devs’ behaviour on alpha (and the public knowing it) in their heads, the patches that are beyond us and the ones that are upcoming.

It’s just a logical consequence if behaviour like that gets punished. In the end, ANet wants us to buy more of their products.

The unnamed Dev is a lead designer, so yes, it wasn’t just a random dev giving his thoughts, but someone who is in charge for a part of the game. He’s posting on these very part of the forum sometimes too.

Kopper, alpha/core test is still going on and that statement is not old. On top it was and is still being posted on these forums a lot, if you can grasp it before it gets deleted again.

If ANet cared they would have implemented 20v20 (or a similar) mode already, but they decided against it after they internally tested it and found out that their code is too bad, resulting in too much hardware usage on their servers.
So what do they do, they talk down and treat wvw, especially gvg, like an unwanted stepchild. Updates/patches further unbalancing and thus making gvg possible. On top upcoming updates are catering the pve players in wvw rather then the actual wvw players, e.g. living story pve in wvw.

Enjoy it while it lasts. ANet does their best to push people off the wvw.

Kopper, you have to see it in relation to what happened before. The post from the alpha test where a (maybe different) dev explicitly said that they give a rats kitten about wvw, now guess what they think about gvg.
You think and live up to A during work hours if your company and boss says B? I don’t think so.

Care to give an example. Happens every day. How long you think a sales agent will be a sales agent if she/he is kitten ing of customers in the public? Call center don’t record their workers’ calls for nothing.
It’s not about being rude, it’s about being trade libel. I’m sure ANet would be cool with their official’s behaviour if it generated more income, so would I if I was in charge.
Anything goes for more profit.

The game mode is about free capping and bunkering while waiting for superior numbers.
Ele can neither bunker nor is it a fast roamer in relation to other classes = left out in high level play.
Nothing ANet can do about that w/o overhauling the whole class or adding more game modes that don’t focus on the 2 aspects mentioned above.

You think that dev woke up that morning and thought “kitten I hate gvg, I will go harass it today”?
That kind of opinion stems from an internal view, he is influenced by his surroundings and if it gets him as far as harassing while REPRESENTING the company he works for, wow, I don’t want to hear the internal talk about gvg then.
Tbh, someone that unprofessional should be fired. In other jobs, outside gaming industry, he would surely have gotten the boot.

Tbh that kind of behaviour from an ANet employee shows their inside opinion on gvg. It’s highly unwanted and an official going as far as harassing other players (which would get a normal player banned btw), a simple apology is not enough.

ANet revealed their true face, ANet lacks professionalism, ANet lacks respect for a certain group of their customers.

You think any of your, Commander Kitadia of ET, actions has influence on the outcome of a week? Another gamer who after year+ didn’t understand how a week’s winner is determined.
Ye, keep believing it, maybe it helps if you do it for the funnzies too.

And those stories, spanking a 30man guild alone, with an ac, cool story. Must be a real high class enviroment your enemies’ servers provide. 10 v 75 and you wipe them, lucky you found 75 without a brain, that stuff happens only in the movies. You seem to like fighting the skillless battle, more power to you.

If I remove every guild that does gvg from every server in the top 10 EU… including all their players, voice comms etc.. you know what would be left over?
Nothing. No organisation, no commanders, no structure. Everyone would be running around like a chicken. Have fun with that.

+1 to KcB.6890: the gvg guilds do more for your server then any other guild (even if it’s just bringing fanboys on your server to play on the same side with that guild). Those guilds that could actually carry your server alone were just big enough, not wvw-skilled enough.