Guild Wars 2

Deniara Devious.3948:

I used to have very high respect towards Red Guard [RG], when I was on Blacktide. Now seeing them play exactly like French PUGs against us with [VG] and using cheap professions like thief, mesmer etc. and getting beaten by just a dozen Desolation guys. I was like what had happened to RG style. It looked now like VS style!! Well, lots of loot bags for us. Finally endless SFR zergs got us while I was salvaging my full bags from loot.

By your logic I solo’d MoS, WL, IRON, VSS and VOTF today. Yea right, SOLO’d cause I killed one of their guys with noone helping me. Gg, nice try.

The interview and Mike’s post are pretty definite when it comes to what they will change: Culling will be (almost) completely gone when the march patch hits the game. Bang, number 1 problem in wvw solved!

It’s not vague, pr blabla you usually hear. It’s direct and allows no misinterpretation. When? March. What? Culling will be thing of the past.
I’m more then excited to see if it’s gonna happen. People will also be more harsh in reaction if it fails. Talking to guilds and people, a ton of them are only waiting for that patch to leave the game for good if it fails to deliver (previous of the culling fix announcement). Seems like ANet really feels the pressure from its customers to get rid of this problem, I can’t explain an outcoming like that otherwise.

id always go with shield over focus for the situation you described. a lot of time focus #4 won’t jump cause of distance or other circumstances. #5 is an ego centric skill which while its decent dmg the radius is too small.
the #4 shield is wide range plus some dmg. #5 while limited to targets it can knock away still overs unlimited protection against projectiles to allies behind you.

fade.8603:

Is the culling fix pertaining to lowering cap pop for WvWs? May I know if there is a decrease in the cap?

Exactly what happened. They tried to ninja boost their culling fix by reducing player cap by estimated 20-25%. Funny enough it failed and made culling worse, alongside kittening up everyone who isn’t in a zone 1-2h before primetime.

Look at your server logs. There are queues while being outmanned in a zone. Is that possible? Does that mean one side has a higher player cap than the other? If yes, instantly reset the matchup and restart it, after fixing it.

Clearly, ANet doesn’t want to cater to the WvW community. Their bets are on pve and e-sport (spvp) atm.

A heads up ANet. Our Guild vs Guild in a WvW zone stream had more viewers then those of your teams that played in pre release alpha at their peaks. That is without any advertising at that point.
On average we got more viewers just doing WvW than before mentioned spvp top players doing spvp.

Don’t you think that hourlong queues are an indicatation for people actually interested in WvW? To say in words you understand, customers (=cash) want to WvW.

ANet reduced player amount per map with last patch to fake less culling. (2d ago we had RG+Tpst on the map, almost no randoms; had ppl running all over the map trying to find the missing 40-50 guys that make the zone queue for 15+mins)
Also the queue system is more broken then ever.

I saw 30 WM killing a dolyak. Wasn’t impressed by the speed.

The culling was really improved the evening right after the patch, but today it was really bad. No patch since then happened, nothing changed on my side. Even less enemies then usual.

Grimpaw.7493:

Great videos. Really excited to see stuff like this that advances the state of GvG in WvW. I wanna see some vids of counters to RB now. :P

I rarely see guardian play as good as that in WvW and everyone was really sharp with timing and key skills (Veil, etc).

Question: do you have specific builds / composition or just design the tactics around what classes your guild members are playing?

Just like in real life, teamplay is what it’s all about.

Like everyone in the game we try to complement eachother in regards to builds and tactics, but we run with what we got and aim to make the best of it.

SFR, great server and great community. <3

Kelthos Doombringer.9032:

Awesome fight @ Jade Quarry Valley!

Until you pathetic EMP players decided to spam Golem in a Box in mass at us. Good indication of how bad your guild really is.

But thanks for the bags.

I think all sides got ppl using it. Seen it in use on Jade Quarry bl by SoS players (leading guilds).

Tobias Steele.2071:

Seeing a well known jq guild spamming in overflows for more guilds to join up. -_- stay classy guys, its not necessary. You have the numbers to beat sos now, time will tell if it if and when it happens again. Next week is going to be amazing. Good luck to all involved!

You mean after SoS beating JQ in their downtime they can’t ask for more players to even playingfields? It’s not like VOTF was an addition to your strong playtime.

Be realistic, it’s legit.

Thanks to VOTF for coming out last night. Was good stuff

Forestgreen.7981:

Only thing I hate about this week is the coming of a certain guild that heavy abuses culling erhm… Basically my computer runs well enough but the other 9/10 players who do not suffer so badly they can’t do anything.

What am I talking about? Mesmer stealth. That ability lets you stealth an entire group of 40+ with just 1 mesmer due to how bugged it is at the moment and add stealth culling on top of it, I salute that guild that uses the broken mechanics of WvW to its fullest.

In case people don’t know yet, stealth culling adds another 3-5 seconds after you lost stealth before you can even see them load on you screen. RG you are great at keeping you’re guys together and moving like godzilla but you’re nothing but culling 24/7 made me lost all respect. But hey whatever it takes to win got it.

We got 15-23 guys on US servers… if you got culling meeting us check your numbers first. Obvious troll is obvious. (HINT: culling starts at 50 players according to ANet)

Awesome (EU) night for us. The lighter we got, the better the fights became.
Thanks to everyone in EBG making that possible.

Kellnor.5428:

Am I the only EMP kid here who laughs whenever you hear people say “EMP is one of the strongest oceanic guilds?” 70%ish of our player base (myself included) are NA kids with no lives playing until 3am every morning……but its awesome you guys think we’re oceanic! xD

I’m always happy when ppl on vent yell “WTF is Emp doing?” and realise they didn’t mean me.

(just kidding)

I’m also looking forward to fighting RS next week if that matchup gonna happen

The first screen is from the fight at west keep, LNM flanking us, SR+Fyr head to head. That was easily 50 ppl plus our 30.
I got culling in that fight as well, but not as bad as your screens (in terms of visible enemies).

Don’t run with 60 guys then.

basjubowe.1024:

Empyre.2531:

basjubowe. “fail meta server” BT won Tier 1 4 times, Viz 5 times since weeklong matchups. Pretty low percentage if you compare to how long the respective servers were in tier 1.

Just a matter of perspective. o/

Wrong. We did 9 times, but nice try. Next.

Weeks 40, 41, 44, 50 and 52. Read what I said, not overall wins, place 1 in the weeklong match. Next.

basjubowe. “fail meta server” BT won Tier 1 4 times, Viz 5 times since weeklong matchups. Pretty low percentage if you compare to how long the respective servers were in tier 1.

Just a matter of perspective. o/

Happy New Year everyone.
See you on a wvw map soon x)

Qwixx.5923:

Dardeldar.3904:

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Pavé César !
By the way, RG had stop the game when culling was modified for a week because they could no longer zerg…

Maybe you should have played in zergs less then 80 ppl during the culling trial period. That patch made 20-25 player warbands unplayable versus larger zergs. We didn’t see the zerg, but the zerg saw us due to allied culling.
Basically it would have had no influence on our style of gaming if we were zerging, but yea…
Also Sac had his computer send in for repair, so we cut back for a week and did some small scale roaming, solo roaming, pve or general slack, which is totally fine after going mental nonstop in wvw since day 3.

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Happy new year to everyone. As we say in Germany, “Glück, Gesundheit und reichen Kindersegen”.

Where did WL go after we counter blobbed you with WIC and PU? Suddenly disappeared from SFR bl.

MoonSpell.4512:

Reacting.6180:

Too bad for BT :l
I would rather face them any day rather than vs…
BT has in skill what vs tries to compensate with numbers…

The result … endless waves of players that drop like flies but are able to bury a keep with their corpses…lol

LOL !!!

i remeber well saturday’s morning, with my guild at spawn, looking for answers of what to do face of the US guild, coming with a zerg of 40-50 players at our dead time …. we weren’r even 20-30 players on all the maps togther !!!

plz just keep talking about numbers! we laugh when we “zerg” you, and see how you fall down while you outnumber us !!

still, RG is almost the best guild playing in open, all respect to them!! (even that they switch fast if they get wiped )

I’ll fall for the bait and tell you how things go when we face WL/FM or whoever is in the zone. They don’t know RG is coming at them, we wipe them 1-2 times then they’ll gather 50-80 ppl on a commander and blobb. I have yet to see FM or WL keep coming at us alone after those initial wipes, it’s always accompanied by the zone.

I know it’s the highest form of “compliment” you can give us in a game.
The time when the enemy realises that their only option is to gather all under 1 commander to fight 15-25, especially in a game like GW2 where numbers>all. Thanks for that

Are you talking about Viz dead time? You tried to stale BT morning cap for 2 weeks (3 incl this) with 100+ across all zones at 6am all week and a massive push on fridays (where everybody knows XAOC didn’t raid)/the night before. Viz has no dead time anymore.

Man I sound like a proper kittener with this, but I can tell you, it’s massive.

tita.6358:

Teel.9036:

Would be a real shame if Vizunah would win by cheating (spies + cheesepanda thing) but after the weekend I must say it’s been very even and SFR definitely has a whole lot to learn.

sure that explains why we are ticking at 500 and you at 100 right now. gratz cheesepanda…

and about spies:
amateur server having his main alliance http://pevepe.net/ Chat as Public:

[12:20:18] <[BORN]Zekow>monday we had a guy on the french teamspeak server
[12:20:30] <[BORN]Zekow>told us in EB were they were going , every tower they went to we were waiting
[12:21:06] <[BORN] Fennore>:c
[12:21:15] <[BORN] Fennore>sad!
[12:22:13] <[BORN] Fennore>where is the fun in that, part of the fun is predicting where enemies will go, as long as you have a brain and some eyes that shouldn’t be too diffficult
[12:28:20] <[BORN]Zekow>i must say i had much fun wiping frenchies
[12:28:24] <[BORN]Zekow>who were all suprised

now just loose with dignity.

For me that chat module is not public. You must have applied to get an account flag that allows you to see the actual chat. Who is the spy?

(I don’t really care what you guys do or don’t, but I found this to be quiet funny fact. Keep it going guys.)

Vroum.2906:

Saviolakos.6473:

Cyril.1486:

Went out with less numbers than we usually run tonight and some insane fights vs OSC mad action. I think both RG and OSC done a double flank around that catapult spot at the back of tower haha. Good stuff.

We really have fun fighting you too, at least I do! (as I don’t think it’s appropriate to speak on behalf of the guild as I am only a member). Awesome fights last night for once more…
TBH, RG is the hardest opponent I faced this week. VS guilds don’t take it as a flame, but I haven’t seen anything like that from your guilds. Maybe because, like one of your guys said (i think), you have small guilds that all work together and not like 1 big guild. But it’s easier for me (not alone ofc, with my guild) to kill VS guilds, even outnumbered, than RG guild even with even or more players on my side.
But what really suprise me from VS server is the consistency they have… all the time lots of numbers, and really good effort to defend your ground, respect for that.

You should look for WL or FM as they are more than likely to give you what you seek.
And if you try smaller format I’m pretty sure you’ll find others guilds than can put a good fight.

Nah mate, they’ll just call the rest of the zone after 1 wipe to fight 20 guys. Just like it happened last night. Wipe WL on their own once with 25-30ish guys, come with everyone on commander. They had more spotters then we had players.

atai.1467:

Empyre.2531:

Yea, we need to improve our tactics RG vs whole enemy zones. Crashing wasn’t intended.

Yes absolutely even for the 4 borderlands … i remember the supply camp south of Hills… you try to run up the mountains … how is gone ?

You win some, you lose some. It’s not like we bring charly, michael and george to assist us.

atai.1467:

Heru.5427:

Lareon.6509:

A big congrats to RG, one of the thougher guild we ever fought. Never had so much fun in a battle

Seems like we killed the poor hamsters :/

Yea yesterday evening …

Bytheway the hamsters yesterday evening kick your kitten a couple of times ^^

Yea, we need to improve our tactics RG vs whole enemy zones. Crashing wasn’t intended.

Viz benefits from 6 things (of course those aren’t the only reasons) imho:
- frensh players flocking to 2 servers instead of eg 4 german servers
- they never really dominated t1 for longer, so they always had a challenge
- most constant split of forces around timezones
- pu commanders; there are many servers in the top12 that aren’t the best enviroment for the typical casual wvw player
- enemies seem to burn out pretty fast or their driving forces (mostly night-shift crews) leaving
- Viz only cares about points; they don’t mind getting annihilated by smaller forces as long as they get that siege weapon down with brute force. If they can only take down 10% hp per attack, they’ll come back 10 times.

saVdoom.2067:

Seth Lex.5493:

Same.4687:

I call bullkitten on all accounts until someone comes up with any form of proof.
/snip

There: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IFfsYGEpD0E#t=525s
Now, since there is actually a whole bunch of people telling you that the Earth does in fact move around the Sun, can we move on?

Wow. Luring pugs into choke points is very hard indeed. Its nearly as hard as funneling doors…. something yall seem very proud to do ?

Re-read:

If a group of 30 spreads out vs a group of 10 who’s spread out.

Mate, it’s one of SFR strongest guilds, OSC plus their followers (Paladini guild plus the usual pu that run after each commander tag they see)

Same.4687 exactly what you describe happens to Viz groups on a daily basis, losing 3-4x smaller numbers in WvW.
Overall the outcome of a match isn’t determined by skill, I agree. The outcome of single fights can be.

Already had 2 perma stealth thieves still trying to halt the cap since the patch. GG xD

Thanks to the Vizunah sword+shield/hammer warrior that we could end our 1v1 before anyone fell asleep. That’s what I’d call a draw

Firen.6078:

I just want to thanks the red guard guild that came to the AS home map this week.
You guys are a blast and we in MoS had a realy great time fighting you.
You came up with a great tactic we called snake in TS as you realy look like one when fighting on flatland.
You forced us to reconsider our tactics and moves and we ended up having alot of fun facing you again yesterday.

/bow

see you again i hope

Firengrot Guardian of Millenium old School

Thanks for coming out as well guys.

Could have been 2 more epic fights, but we had already portaled to camp, when you started loading in at distance due to culling (n/e bo and s/e outer garrison).

Cu again next week.

Make.1065:

[rg] starting complaining :/ ….. don’t let people think that you got some butthurt !
You’re one of the best guild in EU, with a great leader, your small bus is famous; that’s price of fame, everybody wants to fight you. That’s why definetly, most of times you’re outnumbered two to one (except when CIR sticked to your raid).
Now if you want to fight just one guild, just contact them to decide a place/time. But keep in mind that French guilds are small (smaller and smaller, thanks to lags issues and problems with french providers); and actually the guys that you are fighting (lnm, sr, mos joke ….) belong to the same ally, called [ES]. Ally or guild, is it so much different ?
I know that you like to be outnumbered, you like the challenge – just accept to be wiped sometimes.
Sincerely, thank you for the fights and the tension, that’s a very nice week !

Exactly. Some ppl don’t understand that all the more known guilds moving together to actually fight our one guild is one of the highest forms of giving respect in games and ultimately the best fight you can find in GW2 atm.

I highly enjoy that and your way of approaching us. Some ppl went brainafk while playing due to no challenge in lower tiers and last week T1. This should wake them up a bit (or make them gtfo).
One thing I can assure you is that we don’t roam with CIR. We eventually gather with them to try to take highly defended objectives. That makes us two guilds field ~40 ppl.

Romek.4201:

Quote:
“Shadowwolf.1208 are you trolling mate? 60+ ER were hiding in keep vs 15 RG until the ER commander decided to announce to “split up into fgs and farm dolyaks” on teamspeak and now you post something like that, seriously. Must be troll or very short memory.”

Cause we dont care bout RG – sry but for most of us RG is jsut a zerg wasting spots in enemy que

you guys dont care bout objectives – we do

The reason was ER ppl rage logging after several wipes and to not lose further people to RG the commander decided to split up and surrender for the evening.

We don’t care, yes.
That’s why every bl turns quickly in our color. We kill every offensive attack, we take some keeps/towers or have the pug commander take all the kitten while we bind the whole enemy zone in one spot.
You so much care about objectives that you even keep hiding when you don’t own anything. Thumbs up.

Shadowwolf.1208 are you trolling mate? 60+ ER were hiding in keep vs 15 RG until the ER commander decided to announce to “split up into fgs and farm dolyaks” on teamspeak and now you post something like that, seriously. Must be troll or very short memory.

MoonSpell.4512:

Seth Lex.5493:

purposefully ignoring some of the most recent posts.

This is pretty much the moment when you realize that a “WvW alliance” mechanic should be introduced. Something that would allow servers to actually work together (friendly targets) for a short time span.

I really hope the Friday reset will bring a powerful Vizunah-Arborstone alliance onto the playfield – I think all three servers will have a lot to gain from this.

Till then, kudos to VS for their unshakable spirit and unmatched dedication.

Just forget it, I really wish that an alliannce between these two servers can work, but must read forums ( jol, gw2fr… ) to see it’s impossible. It didn’t last 24 hrs in the first place to think of remake one.

Give us the rg back! They don’t have the right to stop fighting !!

Why wvw when there’s more challenge in pve?

Archaos.4953:

I don’t think you understand what we’re saying.

Ruin is moving to Planetside 2. We don’t require anyone’s permission to join a server or move to other games.

If that upsets you, by all means continue to go on about it here.

How you gonna cooperate with people that don’t want you? As that’s one reason moving to BT, working with the “more professional” guilds.
Yet, the only ones willing to cooperate will be the clueless (in regards to the history of this transfer) randoms. Sounds all wonky to me.
Btw, how did you die so often in one fight your pants completely broke?

naestho.4376:

Empyre.2531:

Slashpaf.9250:

Joriel.1530:

LOL sup with Vizuna at EB? its primetime, i doubt they dont have queues….

EB is only PUGs on Vizunah, sometime it’s enough, sometime not.

Those War Legend puggies, at least their side admits it as well.

Hey mate,

Alright you might be one of the finnest guild out there, but still no need to free taunt. It was the first time we ran into you, so we will try to work on something to be able to counter your optimized Lawn mower tactic!
Looking forward to meet you again IG!

cheers

No pun intended – That post I quoted was just the ideal fit occasion. Please forgive me.
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Like the Germans from Elona/RS and others before I think ppl overestimate the optimisation in our tactics, builds and gear. It’s far from being even close to balanced at all.

Slashpaf.9250:

Joriel.1530:

LOL sup with Vizuna at EB? its primetime, i doubt they dont have queues….

EB is only PUGs on Vizunah, sometime it’s enough, sometime not.

Those War Legend puggies, at least their side admits it as well.

I’d say, leave Ruin in ruins.
I’m tipping my hat to the braveless Ruin members that came back to Golanta camp for the last 30mins just to be farmed over and over.

I saw a Ruin commander being in ruins today when he lost his legging during a slightly extended camp fight.

Overall good fights this matchup so far. Keep it up.

VZ farmed massive bags
Deso farmed massive bags
BT farmed massive bags

Noone lost, all won. Sounds too good to be true.

Yes mate, you can roam in peace again. Current SFR matchup doesn’t look promising enough to make a truip there.

Choko.6821:

Never bother to attack even on 3on1 zerg numbers. Unless it is 5on1 numbers. xD

Same I thought about SFR when we joined Riverside for 3 days last week. But then they blobbed and still lost, hmmm. SFR is just a bag factory like any other server we fought so far, they just have a nightshift which seperates them from the lower ranks.

I got a question. Where is OSC from? You never seem to come out before 1am (GMT+1) and not below 30+ ppl and commander activated.
And you really laughing at 8 ppl? Your GM uses Signet of Might, tells a lot about game knowledge.

I must say we had some action tonight in this matchup. Not as good as vs dem frenshies we visited for an evening or two (last week) where we had theminc-ing from all sides non-stop until after midnight, but a good start. Respect to OSC guild for actually making the turtle work unlike others (eg KDS).
RG will be coming to a borderland (or maybe even EB) near you soon.

Way too easy to counter that unless you run directly into them or unload max dps from range. Mesmer, Necro and at least one other class easily fix the “problem” of this blob.