Guild Wars 2

luckywaldo, Copestetic didn’t realise that the only two similarities between GW1 and GW2 are the G and the W. His points are as valid or in relation to this concern as a fart in the bush.

Jayne.9251:

For all of those complaining about queues and GvG in WvW, ya’ll are going to start screeching when the WvW achievements come into affect and your population in WvW triples overnight from pve completionists making it a long wait to get in and complete yours … Or play.

Then the fun part comes into play. If you don’t complete a meta achievement each period you won’t get ANY reward at all for that time. Have fun bros.

Burnfall.9573:

that’s harsh condemnation especially for a guild recruiter.

you see..that is what i’ve been talking about all along.

That is what make wvw so welcomining and friendly.

Anyhow, i belong to 5 guildsthat does gvg and wvw, spvp etc…

No harsh treatments from them.

Well i’ll end my valid argument here…

At the end, GvG will be pushed far of to the small corner of ‘the court’

In other word, less que…s

and to leave room for everyone to wvw at ease without any obligations or limitations.

To leave enough room for Arena.net to work on what matters for WvW.

Once and for all

In the end you can’t play because your server is clusterkittened by living world events (this is coming into wvw soon, 100% guaranteed, it’s being developed right now) and you will neither be able to play wvw, because everyone is doing the pve in wvw nor will you get reward for the league, because you didn’t hit the meta achievement. You’ll be forced to play in off-hours and face long queues.
ANet will show you too what matters in wvw. They DON’T want anybody to play wvw, they want you to be on the spvp or pve.
I will laugh when Tequatl’s elder sister comes to the pvp lakes. A pve zone has about same cap as a wvw zone (per side), you know how many overflows a successful server’s home instance has, now imagine all those on queue with the broken system that they can’t fix, taxi anyone? Oh right, everyone is doing it.

Riondron.1069:

And if Anet really wanted gvg in this game, not only would they have advertised it as such instead of pushing WvWvW ‘server’ battles in their advertising, but they would ALSO have made a separate gvg arena. Go figure….

ANet ran 20v20 internally, but it took too much ressources from their servers with the coding they have in place, so they decided against it. Go figure. Their coding is too bad, not that they don’t want it, they simply can’t make it work, so they made up the thing with “wvw shouldn’t have gvg”.

mrstealth.6701:

Titan.3472:

GvG is for newbies and beginners that found out game mechanisms and coordination what they suppose that they are the only to achieve this knowledge and game play but they are just wrong and still believe being the only skilled players : that s just so funny and sad at the same time…

I wouldn’t go that far with it. Some of them are very good at what they do, and know how to apply that skill to wvw and are capable of cooperating/coordinating with others. I’ve seen some gvg guilds (from my server and from others) be valuable assets to their servers (while not gvg’ing or only hunting for ‘good fights’). But I’ve seen just as many, if not more (seems to be many more to me) that aren’t any more helpful than the average pug group when caught outside of their element (gvg). Being good at open field fighting is a valuable skill to have, but you need more than that to be successful in wvw.

I’ve even seen some cases where their desire for a ‘good open field fight’ has lead them right into being slaughtered by smaller force, because they got out-played and out-maneuvered. Stack up, buff, and charge in doesn’t work so well against an enemy that can use terrain and siege to their advantage. One such incident I was part of was actually lead by a commander from a gvg guild. Some of their members were there, but it was mostly a pug group. We ended up wiping a combined force of two enemy guild groups (I know at least one was a gvg guild) that attempted a 2-front attack on us.

You talk about bad gvg guilds and show that you americans have simply no clue when it comes to gvg. It’s far beyond, huddle, buff, charge. Any decent gvg guild will annihilate you if you face them on equal or even lesser numbers. But this is more of a: the standard is lower across the pond from EU. TW/Choochoo etc, I lol’d.
But you being from Yak’s Bend says it all. YB hasn’t even seen t1/2, hardly t3. Competition is at the top not the bottom, especially with the NA attitude everyone who wants to compete is on the first 4 or 5 servers.

Problem with conditions is that you can spike with them which is controversal to all conditions in any game before. Having builds that can spike with conditions while stuff like dire-stats (cond dmg/vit/tough) and +40% cond duration food exists is just wrong. That’s like a power/prec/crit dmg/tough/vit set of stats (on one item).
They either have to bring them in line with ttk or remove certain items from wvw (since they now also seperate wvw/pve content).

climbatize.8729:

I tried talking to ppl not to laugh back , i ate a lot of fire for that

It’s what keeps your guys going and everyone can take a bit of teabagging.

Why /cry on your dead bodies in a borderland? I rather spam /laugh on eb.

Hmm, that might have come across wrong. I have no problem with thieves, I only see the point that people make when they say perma stealth is annoying in wvw.

I’m playing mesmer for solo roaming atm, but never sticking to any class and prolly made the mistake of bringing a spvp build to wvw instead of using stealth myself too (e.g. Prismatic Understanding, kinda the stealth regen of thieves just for mesmer).
And the good thieves, as you said, are rare, even more annoying if they run perma stealth builds basically nullyfying what could be a good fight.

Saying that thief teleport is equal to other classes teleport is just wrong. Shadow step, Infiltrator’s strike, Infiltrator’s arrow is much more then e.g. the mesmer could pursuit at any given time (blink, forward phase retreat).

Often you can’t pick where fights take place, then you gotta take what you got and those grey mobs are everywhere.

Aberrant.6749:

Empyre.2531:

Aberrant.6749:

Empyre.2531:

Trueshots.9456:

@Empyre, thief can’t cap in spvp in stealth. they must be in the open.

That was exactly my point, if thief you want the high mobile builds. Perma stealth thieves are useless (more or less) in spvp, that’s why the problem/annoyance we face in wvw isn’t gonna be addressed by ANet.

It’s only an annoyance though…. it’s not like thieves are the best in 1v1, group fights, defending, capping, insert other more important WvW things here than you not getting a loot bag, etc. It’s also not like you can’t prevent or counter all of their stealth other than blinding powder…

Yep. A skilled thief can reset a fight to 100% hp at any point she/he wishes if running builds focused around that (regen on stealth, regen in stealth, 4+ skills to go invis and stack further invis from there). It’s not as much damage in a single burst as other builds but it will surely wear you down, while the thief has a free ~1.5-2k heal every time the revealed buff is gone while still sporting 2.8k armor and 15+k hp. Again, only in wvw.

You do know you can counter all stealths other than blinding powder… which has a decent cooldown… right? It is somewhat class dependent on how many you can counter though. What stealth skill are you having problems with specifically and what class do you use? If it’s one of the ones that I play I can help you. If it’s not one that I play you can ask in your class forums and I’m SURE they can help you out.

Btw I’ve never been worn down by a stealth spamming thief. What normally happens is they just run away as they aren’t making any real progress and they are just putting themselves in danger. Heck, I often allow them to get me to around 50% hp just to see if they’ll over-commit lol.

As if you can counter CnD on mobs, grey mobs. Teleporting away to do such etc…
Still, it’s an annoyance more then a problem (and certainly far from game breaking).

Aberrant.6749:

Empyre.2531:

Trueshots.9456:

@Empyre, thief can’t cap in spvp in stealth. they must be in the open.

That was exactly my point, if thief you want the high mobile builds. Perma stealth thieves are useless (more or less) in spvp, that’s why the problem/annoyance we face in wvw isn’t gonna be addressed by ANet.

It’s only an annoyance though…. it’s not like thieves are the best in 1v1, group fights, defending, capping, insert other more important WvW things here than you not getting a loot bag, etc. It’s also not like you can’t prevent or counter all of their stealth other than blinding powder…

Yep. A skilled thief can reset a fight to 100% hp at any point she/he wishes if running builds focused around that (regen on stealth, regen in stealth, 4+ skills to go invis and stack further invis from there). It’s not as much damage in a single burst as other builds but it will surely wear you down, while the thief has a free ~1.5-2k heal every time the revealed buff is gone while still sporting 2.8k armor and 15+k hp. Again, only in wvw.

Trueshots.9456:

@Empyre, thief can’t cap in spvp in stealth. they must be in the open.

That was exactly my point, if thief you want the high mobile builds. Perma stealth thieves are useless (more or less) in spvp, that’s why the problem/annoyance we face in wvw isn’t gonna be addressed by ANet.

style.6173:

Unfortunately, thieves are pretty weak at every part of the game right now except for killing noobs. It’s sad actually.

They get around fast (most important in spvp for free cap) and they deal sick damage when free casting (important in pve). What should anet change if all they care about is looking fine from thief perspective.

The “problem” with thieves is only really in wvw roaming encounters (attempts of 1v1 ganking) and them running full stealth build (regen, init, speed, cond remove etc).
I can see why this is kind of frustrating for the op, you can’t kill them unless they stay to fight and don’t tactically retreat. A good thief that doesn’t want to die won’t die in that situation.
Thief is the only class that can reset a fight completely at any moment they wish (minus time of revealed buff), but that’s non-factor in spvp, so no change will happen.

@Opc.4718
You realise that most of your solutions are kinda picked from the whole kitten nal a class has, noone will have all of them at once, unless you want to be free kill to other classes. Also some require to stun break/no-ct ability first before you can use them to counter the thief burst. While a stealth/regen-build’s only limitation is the revealed buff.

Bloodbeast.8942:

If thief hits you for 16 k, then you should wear something else than just your underpants^^

steal, c’n’d, backstab + zerker gear is actually that kind of damage to builds with low armor, but could be worse, the thief could use a sword and have a brain. Larcenous strike (or crippling strike) is not that much less dmg, but the thief will also daze on top.

Maskaganda.2043:

Empyre.2531:

5 coordinated vs 10-12 pugs. Ye I wouldn’t fight either if I was the commander. Got nothing to do with guts, just brain.
That’s like killing a 50 pu blobb with your guild 25 train. Nothing special.

guess thats the difference between us. we’d still fight. got nothing to do with brains, guts or any other body parts, just about having fun. hiding in a tower we have no interest in capping isn’t fun, not for us anyway :>

Ye, Gandara (2x guild fg+1-2 additions) rather run away from unorganised, partly upscaled AR after they tried to push their warcamp (~10v10). I think people aren’t that much different.

5 coordinated vs 10-12 pugs. Ye I wouldn’t fight either if I was the commander. Got nothing to do with guts, just brain.
That’s like killing a 50 pu blobb with your guild 25 train. Nothing special.

Nuzt.7894:

Jalad Lantana.3027:

From what I have heard, Anet devs who regularly play WvW, do so exclusively on Blackgate or one of the other two T1 servers. (Repeated threads from T1 servers mentioning Anet devs playing there) I don’t think devs even know what it is like to play on anything less than a T1 server.

Bloodlust is fun when you outnumber the other 90% of worlds. Hey look at our five man, we can wipe your T12 puny 20 man groups with impunity.

I still can’t get over Mr. Carter’s “WvW is not meant to be fair” remark.

If that’s the case, why not make spvp teams world based?

I find it hard to dissagree with this, the Devs should be forced to spend one month on any one of the lowest 3 servers while the matchups are still rediculous, they would get a much better understanding of how bad some of these ideas are when confronted with a server they have zero chance of defeating let alone competeing with.

Yep, just remember the devs’ first comments on this forum about “coverage issues” when it was first came up 1 year ago.
“Taking empty towers late night is fun”
and those people are still around ruining the wvw for everyone to make people do the leap from wvw to spvp. A way to “enforce” the e-sport, which never gonna happen.

I’m underwhelmed by performance of WL/WLR. Seems like the scrubs creeped into your guild a lot. Gtz to eastern europe for holding hands all night on ar bl.

x)

Sovereign.1093:

Yes. There is no solution to it. It happens because not everyone’s internet connection is similar. So, the fluctuations causes lag.

Thus, is the scenario when lots players congregate together in one spot.

It happens because the game is crappy coded and the hardware is underwhelming or why you think you don’t lag even with tethering gw2 at EDGE speed via mobile in pve/non zone blob pvp?!

Loco.4561:

This will be the third week that I won’t be even vaguely interested in WvW, another week of facing blob/zerg servers, little point in trying to roam in a small group, just get smashed by 30-40 “skilled” PvP’ers….. I’d quite like to fight Kodash again, some really nice roaming groups to fight against

Just unlucky with borderland.

AR had all group size from 5-25ish roaming on vizunah bl. Too bad we had to face GoW + pu blob from Piken and first random Viz zerg, then VSS leading all of zone and in the end WL lead pu blob.

/sneaky blob rant

LHound.8964:

Dawdler.8521:

Well, look at the bright side – more guilds may join WvW now that the everyone will know how to break the WvW queues, pushing solo queueing pugs out.

I find it amazing that we can actually break something that’s already broken. Its not even kicking a dead horse anymore, its a dead horse kicking itself!

That will certainly get hotfixed, but the fact still remain.
WvW is broken. ANet dn’t want to hear the complaints of the community, specially the suggestions to improve it.
Almost all the WvW communities that came into here to play WvW are gone. Some have given up on WvW (and on PvP at all). Most of the actual WvW guilds are a gathering of players from those communities that still wants to WvW for the same old objectives.
Maybe in sep.17th we can rejoice as we can win some golden dolyaks if we get 1st place … /sarcasm

/cheers

They can’t hotfix it. They can’t even fix it. They tried on alpha when they first got reports of that bug, 0 success so far, but maybe now that they have to care, they will try harder.

Is that once per account or once per character per day?

My point was you got enough people who care else you wouldn’t be where you are in ranking.

LordThy.4927:

Dyno.9467:

Piken Square ranked 3rd…………….Is the Euro servers that bad? :/

Desolation apparently is, dunno about the rest.

Topic title shold have been ‘Desolation trololol’ honestly, since in every post in the last 2 months Deso kitten Champions have been boasting “here we come Vizunah! muahahha!” and now they rank #6 close to be downgraded to #7.

Meanwhile most Piken WvWers don’t give a kitten’s behind about ranks and points…

While your last comment might have been true the first 1-2 months of the game it quickly changed and for a 10 months the wvw “meta” is so far that you can only go up in rankings if you have either a) a massive massive night force or b) a decent night force and a massive massive day (not necessarily prime time!) force.

Niim.9260:

Aberrant.6749:

It was called a bug long long ago by the devs iirc (can’t be bothered to dig through all of the old dev’s posts).

I saw at least three dev posts correcting that dev post to point out the limitations imposed by weapon swap and that it was not a bug, just how it currently works.

Ye, because they didn’t know and still don’t know how to fix it. So their choice was to call it feature rather then bug. Other game modes don’t allow change of weapon set before a round is over, so it’s only a problem in wvw (or pve where noone cares, because mobs are weak sauce anyways).

Pm me

15chars

I roam solo too sometimes and guess what from AR point of view:

- BB never runs alone, if they do and die they come back with 4-10 and chase you across the whole map.
- On Drakkar 90% are thieves, 100% are free kills. Guess stereotype of why low servers are low is true.

See something? All a matter of perspective. /shrug

Seems that south american spanish speakers are back from 1 week break! That choo choo.

this mu is boring on forums, but strong fun ingame.. thanks especially to scnd for 2 gvg so far

Most of you guys make a mistake. You argue about heal signet based on other classes’ skills. This doesn’t work, this never worked in any game.

You simply can’t compare skill A1 with skill A2 if skills B1-Z1 and B2-Z2 aren’t equal. One class spams protection, the other spams blind etc. all increase the worth of hp, you can’t base an argument about their healing skill on that.

Just looking at the matchup history on MoS it seems that there’s more often kittenty matchups between servers that are far apart in ranking on EU then on NA side.

Is the hidden roll that makes up for mixing server matches different between NA and EU? If so, why?

Pheppo.9286:

Empyre.2531:

Myrmidone.4362:

Nemesys.7251:

hope dont met river again if u kill 50+of them with 20+they will come back with 60 if u kill them again they will come back with 100 and follow u around the whole map,this server deserve to play much higher tier against elona or baruch or seafarer or vizuna not against a server like gandara where almost all are moving with 15/20 ppl,just put all the german national server against each other all of them like play this way they can enjoy more the game.

Grats that you killed some nameless pugzerg with your Guildraid, and special grats to generalize once again over whole RS, some people will never change……..
Ask Centrix and Amelia perhaps they could explain whats wrong with your complaining, at least they have understand some things at all.

Greets Myrmi

Haven’t seen a single RS guild run alone in maybe 6-7 matchups vs the server. I must be really unlucky. Fighting RS there’s just nothing more then the pu zerg, when all your individual guilds melt into one blob.
If you ever played solo with the size of xxx raid vs 60+ pu zerg you would know that killing them is actually not a piece of cake or let’s say surviving the random damage (and res flood) coming from the ball. Seeing your answer, I know you never did.

About what Nemesys wrote. Nah, RS wouldn’t stand a chance vs BB, Elona or even Viz. They are unorganised, their prime is mediocre to say the least and their night force is just big enough to outcap AR during RS planned night raid on holiday season, there’s no natural night and morning force.

hmmm … then you should better open your eyes.
Plenty of small RS guilds where running alone. From 5 to 20 people …

Boring and lame accusations from allways the same guys and guilds.
And as for you Empyre … need some cheese for your whine?

Hold hands and sing along “we all run alooooonneeeeeee”. I prefer churros to my whine btw.
Maybe they run next to eachother blinkered.

Myrmidone.4362:

Nemesys.7251:

hope dont met river again if u kill 50+of them with 20+they will come back with 60 if u kill them again they will come back with 100 and follow u around the whole map,this server deserve to play much higher tier against elona or baruch or seafarer or vizuna not against a server like gandara where almost all are moving with 15/20 ppl,just put all the german national server against each other all of them like play this way they can enjoy more the game.

Grats that you killed some nameless pugzerg with your Guildraid, and special grats to generalize once again over whole RS, some people will never change……..
Ask Centrix and Amelia perhaps they could explain whats wrong with your complaining, at least they have understand some things at all.

Greets Myrmi

Haven’t seen a single RS guild run alone in maybe 6-7 matchups vs the server. I must be really unlucky. Fighting RS there’s just nothing more then the pu zerg, when all your individual guilds melt into one blob.
If you ever played solo with the size of xxx raid vs 60+ pu zerg you would know that killing them is actually not a piece of cake or let’s say surviving the random damage (and res flood) coming from the ball. Seeing your answer, I know you never did.

About what Nemesys wrote. Nah, RS wouldn’t stand a chance vs BB, Elona or even Viz. They are unorganised, their prime is mediocre to say the least and their night force is just big enough to outcap AR during RS planned night raid on holiday season, there’s no natural night and morning force.

Caid.4932:

MaJoBooOM.4851:

BibiLeMoine.2709:

Hey Riverside guys !
To see you always blobbing is annoying enough so… try not to cheat and use zoom hack… It’s ridiculous… Third time this week that I see you doing this… A DTK guildie on Hill on AR borderland this time.

Prove pls ^^ without screens you are All Talk.

Dont mind him tbh.
Dont mean to criticise fellow gandarans but the level of understanding of what you can do with siege if pretty low amongst many of our players.
I’d say about 1 in 50 reports of zoom hacks are actually zoom hacks (at best).

That’s correct. Most of the zoom hacks is abuse of game mechanic and stretching the window (if that still works).

NvN.4321:

Biaphynn.8291:

huehuehue

We love u so much XxX.

We were 20 AFK/BanG, and maybe 20 WAR + 10-15 PUs against the 60+ Riverside Blob.
Gandara focused us really hard, it’s just our reaction: hunting all the gandara players to be 1v1 against Riverside, because you’re annoying.

Our raid-lead saw you and said: “Impact them and kill them”

ToHuBoHu kisses, we love your bags <3

Le sigh. Hopefully video coming soon.

He’s correct though (IIRC we inc-ed that fight as AFK/BanG was almost dead and there was no clear guild vs guild going on). It was a skirmish just like the ones WAR had with Gandara before our GvG yesterday. Triple impact by 2 guilds + pu commander, easily 50-60 together, vs our 22-24 at that moment. Noone cares to write or whine about it, because it just happens and they were good fights on top. Loving it.

Interesting analysis of strategies in GW2, sadly it matters zero. The side with most players over a week wins, no matter how much microstrategy you apply.
If you cap a tower/camp/whatever, it should only be to make enemy movement predictable and allowing your side the easy farm.

ANet already said that it’s a problem they can’t solve 100% unless they rewrite the code and get better servers. So for months they are doing bandaid fixes.
Wvw is losing players every day and isn’t an aspect of the game ANet is focussing on. People in charge won’t allow extra cash for more devs, reallocate ressources or hardware to support wvw while their main goal (making tpvp an e-sport) is in far far away worlds.

If you can’t or don’t want to deal with the lag either move to lower tiers with population so low that the servers won’t crumble (in EU that would be Vabbi) or simply quit.

This problem is totally ANet’s fault and it was pointed out to them like 7-8 months before game went live. Everyone told them about the very high interest and demand in RvR/WvW, but they didn’t listen.

I guess ANet is having problems transferring the achievements over from spvp to pve (db is now spvp to avoid abuse of food).

It is the staff you get, but at low details. You need at least medium settings for the Jade weps to be good looking. Worst is the shield in that regard.

Colly.4073:

Saint Scarlet.2906:

TUP are always welcome to post in Piken’s thread. They are one of the best guilds out there and some of us like to keep abreast of their endeavours(they being former Piken and nice/friendly).

yea TUP where apparently hardcore Pikeneers, Till they deserted us when the going got tough. Sorry but in my eyes they are just another server hopping [RG] guild and should stick to their own threads.

Maybe let some old PS guys tell you the history of Piken.

Strong words bro after what I see every day.

Gtz @ op for nice troll post, you achieved what you wanted.

But we all know there’s only one REAL pvper

Rednik.3809:

Pryda.8257:

Remove all Arrow Carts that deal damage to 50 guys! Problem solved

I remember alot of fights with absurd skill lag and without any siege.

When ANet bugged the siege deployment there was significantally less lag while there were still attacks on prime objectives (like bl garnis) going on. Also siege counts towards map cap (with no siege ingame more ppl could play on a border)(I’m not saying that the non sieging side can get more players in, just that if there was no siege player cap could be X+Y instead of just X+siege), now that the siege is 50 instead of players’ 5 cap, it’s quiet obvious what is a major cause for the lag problem.

tetrodoxin.2134:

Really enjoyed this matchup, thank you. And I’m glad that we could compete rather well against 2 stronger servers with higher population.

Put the hatred away and show some love!

AM lacks players at prime and night. You got the highest population from ~8-16 in this matchup (especially this week with last days of holidays and overall kittenty weather in Germany). AR is only really strong during prime and a few hours in offtime when there’s organisation going on. BB comes in after dinner siesta until 8 in the morning.
Nonetheless I had excellent fights this week, blobb or not, it was fun.

Nice vids Jhii. But for the sake of my sleep, cut them shorter.

Morgenes.6985:

Empyre.2531:

Danielle.3152:

Hahaha , Baruch Bucht!

Give me German game version for more lolz

I found the rifle meta more disturbing

Haha stupid german, playing with rifle, when he can use an axe at the distance of 1200! -.- typical shot in the dark.
btw. I would rather play with english language, but those kitten Abaddon blob zerglings always say the german words for towers and camps and I always have to guess where they want me to go then ^^

At all the excuses:
Whats the difference, between a 3 guild blob with 60 peeps and a 10 guild blob peeps?
Or between the blobs we field at primetime and the blobs Baruch fields 24/7, don’t you have to take a siesta at noon.

[ADAC] Kayel, Morgenes, Brennos, Morti, Morgana

Yop, when running with so many that it doesn’t matter if you’re single target (yes, piercing bullets sucks donkey ball) hero or actually use a weapon that can properly ae then rifle meta is valid. Whatever floats your boat

Danielle.3152:

Hahaha , Baruch Bucht!

Give me German game version for more lolz

I found the rifle meta more disturbing

Aphix.9846:

Empyre.2531:

LotuS.4378:

Empyre.2531:

LotuS.4378:

Neosid.1269:

Piken is doing like Verona Pooth….Blub Blub

they do not blobbing… is only a spontaneous meeting of 20 roaming squads

Actually there was like 30 ppl. Want me to show you, your choo choo train when you came out from inner?

poor RS

Did you even bother to look at the screenshot? There’s already 15 PS from right side of pic to the dead RS player marker. It’s more like 60-70.

wtf

i was there, so dont try to make your own vision. right behind this guy on walls was like 120 angry german kids.

anyway np. INC starting monday, so germans will hide in cave like always before.

You said PS was 30. I said there’s 15 already on right side of the dead RS on the screenshot while there’s still a “sea” of red (PS) on left of it making it more like 60-70 PS then the 30 PS you claimed.
I don’t see why you bring up how many RS had? Or you trying to justify your blobing with theirs?

As said before we had 1 commander on the map and 1 last objective on the map ? What do you expect ? And IMO they outnumbered us + the 569 arrow carts and ballistas on the walls.

Oh nvm this is not your match-up…

Anyway I enjoyed my stay in hills :p

Ye, valid reasons, but LotuS was pointing fingers at their blob, while PS’ was not really less “impressive”. That is my point. Stop pointing fingers if you doing kitten yourself.

… and that screenshot posted. The sea of allies, you really think you were less then them? Understatement or exaggeration just to make points sound true to your own ears never worked. You’re trying to convince yourself of something that is obviously not happening, but whatever floats your boat.

LotuS.4378:

Empyre.2531:

LotuS.4378:

Neosid.1269:

Piken is doing like Verona Pooth….Blub Blub

they do not blobbing… is only a spontaneous meeting of 20 roaming squads

Actually there was like 30 ppl. Want me to show you, your choo choo train when you came out from inner?

poor RS

Did you even bother to look at the screenshot? There’s already 15 PS from right side of pic to the dead RS player marker. It’s more like 60-70.

wtf

i was there, so dont try to make your own vision. right behind this guy on walls was like 120 angry german kids.

anyway np. INC starting monday, so germans will hide in cave like always before.

You said PS was 30. I said there’s 15 already on right side of the dead RS on the screenshot while there’s still a “sea” of red (PS) on left of it making it more like 60-70 PS then the 30 PS you claimed.
I don’t see why you bring up how many RS had? Or you trying to justify your blobing with theirs?

LotuS.4378:

Neosid.1269:

Piken is doing like Verona Pooth….Blub Blub

they do not blobbing… is only a spontaneous meeting of 20 roaming squads

Actually there was like 30 ppl. Want me to show you, your choo choo train when you came out from inner?

poor RS

Did you even bother to look at the screenshot? There’s already 15 PS from right side of pic to the dead RS player marker. It’s more like 60-70.

Troma.3250:

Empyre <3 you silly troll, i explained why

To conclude, i think 99% of the posters here understood the main message, the goal. Hope we will see good reactions of Anet.

I can see you’re mad you have to play another week GW2. Cmon, this game isn’t THAT bad. Many love across the border to france <3

Troma just like you ANet doesn’t always stick to their words, so don’t blame them for that.

And like i told GC early and on forum, this was my last CTA. Ever.

Trolling aside +1 for your op.

If you get killed using medium cd skills that are meant to be of protective nature (e.g. feedback, wall of reflection) there’s something wrong.
Basically retaliation forces you to drop a defensive cd where it is less effective, simply bad design.

It’s the “eve of game end”-blobbing.

More and more guilds can’t field 20-30 members on their primetime anymore, that’s why they run with others to get a decent sized (in their view) raid together, resulting in something that is perceived as a “bigger blobb then mine” by others. Add a commander tag on top of that (you want more people, don’t you?) and you get a nice addition of PU also.
Also guilds eager to keep their name “clean” for the next game before they quit GW2, making all that count is not-wiping (for what you obviously need numbers in GW2) and winning.

Don’t feel bad bros, that’s how it goes. Always.