Guild Wars 2

Remember builds are different in PvP, WvW, PvE. You can try to use the same gear/build technically but you cannot bring your PvE gear into PvP or vice versa, and you’ll find no 100% coverage. Vit/tough is esp vital no pun intended in PvP but works differently, like Toughness in PvE gets threat; but not in PvP. So it’s not so easy to have one build/gear for everything. And again, no need given you aren’t using the same gear in every mode anyways, so cost wise doesn’t matter.

Also, you’ve not mentioned DPS heavy or support? Tank? Rabid can definitely work with condi builds but more open world/dungeons. Anyways it’s hard for me to recommend one build for everything thus; zerker, mara you hear a lot. Viper condi still is good on engis for PvP and PvE.

It’s all subjective; so no need for peeps to get their asuran panties bunched :P This will always be an issue for any fully voiced game, no VA will be liked by everyone. Check out SWTOR’s Male Consular and I feel your pain, I had to roll female I couldn’t stand the VA – also voiced by Nolan North (tho, cannot confirm Human Male is him). He also voices Nathan Drake. I’ve not actually played Human Male yet.

The Female Norn is the one I dislike. I will say I like most the VA. The male Charr fits so well, the male and female asura too, female sylvari is one of my favs. Fem Human is good, not best. I haven’t tried rest. Be lucky like SWTOR this game IS fully voiced (well almost fully).

It all is subjective though I know guildies/friends that love the male consular VA… so why would they change a VA because YOU or ME or a few dislike the person as there will be plenty who disagree and do like. It would be highly expensive to redo with a new VA, meanwhile there are royalties/contractual reasonings as well.

There’s a reason they stick to 1 male and 1 female per class in SWTOR and race here AND why many MMOs dont fully voice their games (Wildstar, ArcheAge (aside from being Korean import), etc.) It’s VERY expensive. The MC dialogue is so vast; and you NEED them for future content. So they all have contracts, and you continue paying them; add the side chars/etc. (a reason many are voiced by same actors and in many MMOs, ex: Logan is same VA as Theron Shan in SWTOR).

Much as it’d be nice to have multiple actors for one gender race it just will never happen in any MMO, unless it was a main point/issue for devs and the money went there.

Aside from the obvious tabs/char slot sales, the Makeover kit is what I was waiting for during the big sale week. SO glad it is here now!

EriskRedLemur.7153:

ChrizZcE.5981:

Derdhal.6908:

ChrizZcE.5981:

but I feel like I´m actually losing gold by doing anything other than ML.

And you’re right. The point is: do you play a game to gain in-game gold or for fun? I remember that old times when all games were just about having fun…

The two shouldn´t be mutually exclusive.

All I´m saying is make other areas more rewarding so that the game feels less grindy.

I’ve NEVER felt this game grindy, at least, in the way other MMOs are esp while levelling – it’s been the LEAST grindy MMO I’ve experienced tbh. No, I am not grinding for ascended gear so my thoughts can change there.

Also, due to level scaling, map completions, puzzles, dailies, group events, heroics, etc. I’ve never had more of a reason at full level to do “lower level” content and completely think it’s not pointless. If you don’t care and are about gear and best of best at 80 and hardcore, then yeah it will be pointless as it would be in ANY MMO.

So I get how the OP can feel or those like him but I’m not; I feel opposite but I’m not hardcore and prob after different things. I do level other chars so that may keep things refreshing I’m not focused on one toon. But even so I would still feel overwhelmed at the amount there is to do. But I also have a completionist mindset.

ChrizZcE.5981:

Derdhal.6908:

ChrizZcE.5981:

but I feel like I´m actually losing gold by doing anything other than ML.

And you’re right. The point is: do you play a game to gain in-game gold or for fun? I remember that old times when all games were just about having fun…

The two shouldn´t be mutually exclusive.

All I´m saying is make other areas more rewarding so that the game feels less grindy.

I’ve NEVER felt this game grindy, at least, in the way other MMOs are esp while levelling – it’s been the LEAST grindy MMO I’ve experienced tbh. No, I am not grinding for ascended gear so my thoughts can change there.

Also, due to level scaling, map completions, puzzles, dailies, group events, heroics, etc. I’ve never had more of a reason at full level to do “lower level” content and completely think it’s not pointless. If you don’t care and are about gear and best of best at 80 and hardcore, then yeah it will be pointless as it would be in ANY MMO.

So I get how the OP can feel or those like him but I’m not; I feel opposite but I’m not hardcore and prob after different things

Fractals I don’t do yet; my main is a Guardian. Let’s be honest tho all elite classes > a bit except a few like Druid (in terms of DPS). The real thing holding DPS Guardian back in fractals is boon thieving/sharing etc. as said.

Necro again is opposite in it’s condi based for dmg and also can provide a lot of support and even has been viewed to tank. Basically you’re gonna be more power w/ Guardian or Condi with Necro (I am not a necro I’m sure there’s good pwr versions but condi is superior). But as said, viper armor (not easiest to get) and open world it can be slower but it’s pretty insane in fracral/raids where condi can get going. Also more ranged options than Guardian.

Also, Necro has a slightly higher learning curve than Guardian I mean; shrouds/building lifeforce; but it’s fun. Also like Guardian and DH, many are thinking Reaper not just vanilla necro.

You literally answered your question lol you’re Ele or Necro. Guardian has scepter and is great DPS now; but more melee; and viewed still as support.

I will say Engi but you mentioned PvP :P Engi at 80 usually runs hammer tho that’s melee tho pistols still nice condi engi good DPS and great solo PvE imo; have kits/etc. flashy.

If u like light armor I mean I agree Ele or Necro seem best for what u want. Despite cries about Ele nerfs they still are strong PvP imo; and PvE yeah one of the best there for solo, you have tons of option. DPS are still good and strong. Many range options. Same with Necro and Necro has pets. Like undead/forms? Like spells/fire/water/earth flare I mean Ele has a lot of variety in spell looks/etc. It’s not hard but also not easy takes time to learn to manage your attunements properly. But is very fun!

Ping wise tho it may be difficult with switching attunements. Necro may be a little easier there esp with the pets.

It honestly is a main reason I don’t use GS; I’m a GS guy I make it work on Ranger, use it whenever it’s able. But since update sword > for me over GS. And I love sword too. GS still is great bursty but not due to the 5 skill. It can have PvP uses tho, u play it for the bind and pull – but yeah, I would like to see it adjusted then. The burning dot is like – why dont I just use a torch :P

otto.5684:

I played a couple of MMO, but the longest I played are SWTOR and GW2. GW2 strengths:

- GW2 has great interactive combat system compared to majority of MMOs. It plays more like an ARPG.
- Best maps/zones in all MMOs I have seen, and probably in all games I played.
- Great lore, which is also original.
- Between quest system and NPCs interactions, the world feels alive.
- Great quest/mission system.
- Good graphics.

THIS in literally every way; the guild I run’s main game is SWTOR; but GW2 in so many ways > SWTOR it saddened me initially. I come from SWG. I’ve played so many MMOs with my guild.

GW2 has stuff from ESO I loved and even ArcheAge; and more. The Open World and Dynamic Events is one of the best things I’ve ever experienced; the lore and char’s are awesome. The races/char creation was refreshing. Sure I’d love to see open world housing, etc. player cities, etc. being a SWGer but this game fills a lot of things.

No MMO is without issues/balance issues. I also love how much there is for PvE, but PvP and WvW too. I personally love the 3 different build/sets.

I’ll add that wasn’t said by otto:

- Gemstore/Tradepost – I will say once u learn to the market; you can make a lot or save a lot on selling/buying things it is very fun.

- Mini-games – all the daily activities and jumping puzzles, map exploration/vistas/points. Seriously – lots of fun, you don’t need 100% combat to MMOs.

- Wardrobe/Skin system – sure, can be expensive, etc. but really can have unique looks/colors. Fashion for a char is a huge thing for me and immersion esp PvE/story.

- Guild Missions/Puzzles

I’m sure there’s more.

Abelisk.4527:

Lightsbane.9012:

Abelisk.4527:

You’re venting out on PvP/WvW. But is that the entire game? Absolutely not.

it may as well be. uninspiring is but one word i would use for this game’s pve.

That’s subjective. I, for one, love GW2’s PvE.

Agreed! Seriously, this game has better PvE than many MMOs. I can barely play SWTOR after PvE here.

Isn’t this type of thread posted in EVERY MMO that’s been out 2+ years? Seriously; if there’s one constant it’s doomsayers crying the game is dying or dead after a big update, expansion, earnings report, or for funsies.

I went through SWG and NGE, and SWTOR server merges, Vanguard, other MMOs. I played GW2 after HoT was launched. So I cannot comment on how things were pre-server merges for WvW (I play WvW). Every MMO goes through downturns and issues; then the hype returns with a new expansion/etc. and hope for better changes. GW2 is far from dead, I’ve played some dead MMOs. And the lowest quarter numbers compared a lot to newer MMOs; but larger pop than many MMOs out there if u look at their numbers. Anyways, ranting but literally every MMO forums that aren’t brand spanking new I go to I see these threads just amusing.

Scept/Torch for DPS, some support depending on build aka Honor for heal/large symbol. And Staff for the support only. I mean peeps still use LB; but not the way you want. Note: Scepter REALLY is a midrange and even close range weap; do NOT expect to be at LB range using scepter and be as effective, it’s not a snipe you’re looking for esp with torch that is not long range. Focus then be better if you want to be effective at the longest range which again, is a bit less than LB/Staff range.

Res. 1080p? I have a i3 6100 – yes 2 cores/hyperthreaded. A GTX 960 4GB. 3100 DDR4 RAM 8gb. And an SSD. I have high res char, high settings; and it runs smooth as butter cream. In huge WvW fights hundreds of players I turn off high res models; but it runs fine. This IS a 4 year old game, it looks fantastic for one, and IS a CPU hog > GPU.

Just remember your monitor’s RESOLUTION/FRAMERATE MATTERS 1080p 60hz vs 2k/4k, you wont be running this game high settings with my CPU and GPU at 4k. But 1080p esp if you’re capped at 60 frames or close it’s perfect.

I underestimated playing the market… likewise to get better deals when you want to buy stuffs.

Daily = 2 g. Once you level a char to 80 the daily takes 30 mins or less. Sell things u may get from chests you don’t want. May get lucky; explore a map fully for possible more keys. Sell loot be surprised how some mundane gear sells for a lot and adds up.

And yeah materials/nodes if u don’t craft; be amazed how getting low iron for example will get a few gold easily. ALWAYS mine/chop rich resources.

And AB is assuming you have HoT AND an 80 char. Like many MMOs gold/credits/etc. is a lot more easily gotten at full level.

Idk whenever I see few players I get the pop up to changes instances and then I see a lot. And it depends on zone, but I’ve NEVER seen just 2-3 peeps and that’s it. U mean like a corner area of Queensdale or something specific?

That’s one thing I’ve loved since I began playing GW2 to ME anyways, I can only speak for me – the instancing/megaserver loading works. Overall population may be down sure; but it hasn’t affected my noticing. I never feel lonely; even starter maps. Yeah bosses/dailies will bring more peeps to certain areas at certain days. But as a person who’s guild’s main game is SWTOR – and on the most populace server – this game is not sparse for players from my experience. Like any MMO I have my specific issues with GW2 but pop has never been one (that’s all for PvE; WvW sometimes depending on hour can be sparse, but not bad).

Thanks Jerus! VERY helpful! Seriously. Basically confirming what I thought DPS with the support you mentioned for Raids and esp Fractals which ppl told me DPS is it really, I’ve never done Fractals. And I DO love Guardian DPS. It still offers good support, just I wanted to make support primary over DPS.

And Cleric over soldiers I was debating that; coming from WvW where vit is key for the front lines. Yeah I’ve never done fractals yet; I know even explorer Dungeons don’t need dedicated heals/support really, but I’ve only done a few dungeons and mainly Ascalon to get Monk runes which I believe is the only way you get monk runes?

Your build, other than gear is literally what I was currently getting/running in Open World/Guild Raid.

I have a Druid; I just love Guardian playstyle/look/weaps more. Tho Druid is the epitome of what I’m looking for no doubt, perhaps I need to simply use that for what I want. And I get it, when you have ranged Druid/Ele to heal/support, why get risky with basically melee Guardian for heals, and lots of things need more DPS than focused support/heals.

Open World, story Dungeons, WBs, solo – pre or 80 Ranger is great. Solo you have pet; CCs, speed/quick buffs, etc. Now more group content; at 80 if you don’t have a staff ppl will ask why you don’t and to pls spec Druid.

Now, my preference IS support, heals, etc. So Druid is one of the best for that role. But many ppl who go Ranger don’t initially sign up to be a heal/buff bot and support at end-game. Druid runs counter to Ranger identity tbh. So if you want nothing to do with Druid; you may find some issues as Ranger in group content.

But pwr/condi Ranger DPS is okay, yeah lowest technically but in dungeons tbh shouldn’t matter if you know your rotation.

So Ranger levelling was literally light years away from 80 Druid; it is a new class tbh in many ways at 80 more than other elites I feel. Good for some, not for many.

Ironically it’s the ticket scraps and claim tickets I want; far as I know keys are the only way to get those? I don’t know how anyone unlocks the skins without spending hundreds of dollars I’ve gotten 9 scraps out of 20 keys. Most keys from map completions. Esp when some are 2-3 tickets aka 10 scraps… unless there’s another way to get scraps.

Otherwise yeah it’s lotto but I have gotten hair kits from them and makeovers. So can’t be too annoyed saving a lot more gems.

Made my Guardian my main now; mostly WvW; and doing heals/support there is easy and fun. Now I want to do PvE with more heal/support focus (Open World; dungeons; Fractals).

Since the big update I don’t see much on Support Guardians for PvE. I have a DPS zerker build for solo/story/open world – it’s fun but I always go back to support/rezzing in events/other stuff. Why I really became a Guardian.

Yes I see metabattle, the DPS support build is really DPS with minor support; I’m looking for well more support/heals. I get it also depends on content and if not druid/ele you kinda need to be DPS.

Q: Open World is one thing, but Dungeon/Fractals and sure Raids is Guardian Support/heals even a thing? Always Druid/Ele heals, chrono tank a lot, etc. prob preferred Guardians do DPS/minor support?
Q: Mace for heal/support good now in PvE? Or Staff/Hammer? I use hammer in WvW with mace/shield. But that may be too supporty for PvE?
Q: Soldiers gear still ideal? Zerker mixed?
Q: Dura runes or Monk? Monk means much more heal focused yeah.
Q: Healing power does it still scale to make a difference w/ Guardian? Like I know for whatever reason it doesn’t with Druids and it used to actually make a big difference for Guardians.
Q: Boxers or briefs?

I’ve seen healer/support builds months old on the forums but with the new meta wondering what’s changed. Thanks.

Total Makeover kits come on go on sale pleaessseee and bank tabs.

I tried to search didn’t find anything clear. I want to buy a friend a char slot; there’s no gift option so there’s no way these type of items can be gifted? I have played GW2 for 6 months I should know these things Likewise gems I guess makes sense u cannot gift those?

As for HoT I can just buy it again and give my friend the code right? Thanks for the n00b answers I just never utilized the gemstore much all this time or for selfish reasons when I did

Both are great in PvE. And PvP. I LOVE my Guardian, I couldn’t get into Warrior. I preferred the overall weapon choices of Guardian and the shared ones I liked Guardian’s skills better ex: sword, greatsword, hammer. I am a more support orientated player and Guardian does that wonderfully. Warrior has banners/etc. too sure. DPS Guardian now since update is good; I will say Guardian nowadays definitely has a lot of build variety in PvE, depending.

Also, elite spec, most ppl comment factoring that in. I never got a Warrior to berserker; I got it sorta high but generally things seemed stale to me. But many find Warrior great and fast-paced. I think guardian imo is more dynamic. Guardian does lack any 25% movement speed. Tho you can use shout Retreat and with runes almost have it going without any downtime. But that’s a skill bar, I use for Open World not raiding.

Also look at the profession forums and wiki; if u want to top the DPS charts Warrior may suit you slightly better. Also for raiding peeps always take 1-2 warriors; Guardian still has a support role view.

My experience with Mentor/apples have generally been positive when I first tried GW2. In Queenesdale a mentor came on, saying he’s there to answer any questions for new players! He was very helpful.

Commanders – yes, it was a guild led, but organized the fight in Sparkfly Fen (anyone else used to see/call it Sparkly Fen?, Tequatl – no issues.

And yes I’ve seen issues; I rezz’d a mentor once and then died doing it, and he left me running away; I asked a Commander a question about a fight once and he told me to fudge off. But that was the worst response from one.

As a player that loves to help new players/old in another MMO; I do think when you do tag up, you should be doing so for the right reasons and understand it’s not always appreciative and a thankless tag; some egos; etc. TBH it’s better that way as many helpful veterans not tagging who are awesome, but when anyone sees a tag and does tag up they should hopefully be doing so for the selfless reasons not for ego/hating it/just for themselves/etc. AND have brass balls Because it does set you apart and ppl have expectations whether realistic or not or are just trolls or jealous even and looking for someone to blame. It is a thankless thing and I think ppl get that enough in RL they dont want that in game.

I’ve seen more Mentor taggers being that then kittens from my experience.

I try to make it a point if helpful/they’re trying to whisper a thanks or say so in /say or /map. One person showing appreciation can go a long way.

As someone who first tried, then bought HoT during Q2, or close to then, February, I have no regrets. Coming from SWTOR, what a breath of fresh air. Oh no doubt not playing pre-HoT I don’t have that insight. I was a big SWG player, I went through NGE and I hear some compare HoT to that. Idk. Also, coming from SWTOR and WS a bit ago; I can only imagine SWTOR’s numbers it’s not good as the guild I lead there. Regardless, being literally both 4 years old, this is a bit being overblown imo. Look up WoW numbers at certain times… any old game esp with a more controversial expansion OR very slow updates like GW2 does and SWTOR; pop drops. Fewer peeps like me new to it trying it.

SWTOR literally is make or break imo their expansion coming, likewise maybe GW2 as well, though there’s other MMOs much more dire straits than GW2, just look at WS numbers. And WoW with Legion buzz, new content/expansions is vital to older MMOs. ESO has been doing this really well imo. Anyways, I’m sure as I would with SWTOR or SWG years post NGE long time GW2ers will have other input/views. I totally get that.

I see the positive in this means more content sooner. That being said, could mean content not tested enough and could further hurt game. If Anet puts money where mouth is that they listen to community/etc. GW2 could easily rebound with next expansion/updates that fix/balance game.

FOTM – I see more and more “cancer” Druids now tbh. I don’t see them nerfing DH too heavily or even necessary like, I’m not an experienced PvPer/WvWer granted but I don’t see traps imbalanced I mean the irony is they didn’t really change traps too much just after update it’s just more ppl playing Guardian now, so NOW ohhh noooo traps whaaaa. This has been the case in any big MMO profession update when a profession goes from maybe not trash, but bottoms to the tops. Or where many ppl now try it. Maybe they overreact and nerf, but, I honestly see by next months just less ppl playing Guardian and less of an issue.

Agree with everyone; and with zeal, it will still increase dmg/burning with out you in it; as I love choosing the spot of the symbol FOR supportive reasons for group. If you have HONOR spec’d there’s healing/boons for group there.

Once you change mindsent of thinking of it long range, and using it medium AND close range weap scepter becomes one of the best. View it basically like melee with more range. And an adaptive symbol with low CD.

Agreed Druid is DIFFERENT than Ranger. That’s why it’s so problematic; identity issues unlike other classes’s elites like Warriors, Guardians. Imo Druid IS fine; mostly, I can even see a nerf sometime BUT they have to fix/change Ranger core stuff first. But all professions due to elites let’s be honest have issues I see no profession forum with no complaints. I mean any MMO no profession is perfect; but more classes have the fractured issues due to elites. Where literally it’s elite or bust. Even classes that don’t require the elite to be viable still having the elite overall is preferred. I think as a whole that needs changing but – that’s literally money for the game, HoT, elite class, they want you to get it or feel like it’s necessary. Until they add a 2nd elite or whatever, I think esp for Ranger, Druid is just what is gonna be there.

I agree; but I get where the OP comes from not really understanding it or prob not playing PvP. Still great in PvE. I was there I had it off my toolbar for a long time before I understood what superspeed really didn’t think I needed the extra quickness how I was spec’d. It’s great obv in PvP and open world PvE; prob rare uses in actual RAIDS/fractals.

Some replies are skewed as they include PvP/WvW input. But all great! I have had this dilemma too; Guard or Engi. It’s overall the most “fun” class to me, perhaps more so because I have an asura; love those little guys. With the Guardian changes tho; I sorta ended up focusing that as my main. I don’t regret it; Guardian fits my playstyle aka support DPS or healer/support and even decent just full burn DPS fits the bill.

But PvE wise; and RAID wise unless you’re seeking hardcore elite RAID groups; go with what you love most. I’ve raided with Engi’s perfectly fine. I love my Guardian has all my fav weap types; etc. but I could also see me at 80 despite engi’s current issues also off and on preferring that.

I’d not be too concerned with meta/what is “best” in PvE unless seeking elite raid groups. Open world PvE wise for DPS I prefer Guardian; group support ironically Engy. And well yeah engy can get mech legs and elixer for speed but you can give Guardian travler/speed runes and Retreat can literally be upp’d for nonstop use and you’re just as quick/faster. But I get it’s a slot. Anyways; not to rant on – if u prefer engy go with that imo! Don’t just go Guardian because it may be “better” in some areas, unless u do love Guardian then.

Thought the OP was from pre-patch. Are the buffs/changes better for PvP than PvE or more impactful there? I can agree to that to an extent, is there one role Guardian is OP at over another class, no, but that does not mean Guardian’s are shafted or “terrible” in PvE they definitely got buffed there too. You don’t need to be the best DPS, best buffer. Seriously you can do a lot more now unlike mentioned Druid which is a buff bot. Seriously try to not go staff as Druid or have frost spirit off utility and see if that doesn’t get you kicked…

I think the OP hits on needed issues for Guardian that still are there, movement speed, reworking of signets, etc. Retaliation as a whole. And I am coming from an albeit limited fractal experience since changes, but I tried Guardian pre-patch, I used my 80 lvl boost and regretted it and had been kicked then – despite the idea of Guardian being my fav playstyle/support/lore/etc.

Also PvP is dominating that theorycrafting, but now I feel like I can heavily contribute in raids or fractals; and feel like Guardian is heading to the right spot not there yet but definitely far from terrible in PvE or reduced to one boring role, and there’s a reason scrappers have been scrapped from most PvE, despite still being good imo, in no way do they offers “so much more” as you say. But anyways, I get the sentiment of the OP but definitely not quite in touch with current meta.

OmniumExtinction.3479:

Top build next to bear bow, am i right?

beerbow? Sounds like my kinda ranger role! Oh wait nvm

Not sure why ppl have to LEAVE GW2 to play a WoW expansion; let alone the comparison aside from both being in unique fantasy worlds with great lore; a few shared class names the games are vastly different. Whatever issues peeps have with GW2; imo it is so much better with class dynamics, world, groups, quests, even PvP. Completely different types of games and audience. WoW will always be more “main stream”.

My guild mains SWTOR; and it’s closer to WoW; but vastly better and it has lots of issues. I see former WoW players trying new games/MMOs all over much more than other MMO gamers trying WoW to be a replacement MMO like not even close. I’m sure former WoW players may check it for the story; I get that I always enjoyed WoW’s lore it is strong there but, everything else wise yeahhh I’ll read about it.

Aeolus.3615:

Concecrations are ment to be used on allies or on front of you, not on yourself most of the cases, it is a support utility line, where u stay back and try to control the fight helping your group.

Now when running tripple concecration for support(WvW), i dont run WoR, since sanctuary has been loved.

THIS. And THAT’’S WHY I love the changes. Because personally, I play Guardian FOR the support; I love that role. Solo or trying to be frontline or roaming yeah it’s not great; thus why I’d shift from consecrations for solo/other play. And if backline/heavy support isn’t your thing then you’ll have opinion as the OP which is fine, and I AGREE under that mentality/role – it is boring then. But if you’re about being the ultimate supporting player it’s not boring at all and I think Master of Consecrations is fine for it

Also as said HG is not easy to strip and has uses, but won’t always be on your bar it’s situational IMO. And better for PvP.

skyhawk.5149:

Ummmm, isn’t this the engi subforum?

I thought I misclicked Ele forums too.

Actually, I think it may have a niche over axe OH serving a different purpose. For DPS no. Even with axe nerf. I would say it’s not utterly useless now; and probably won’t replace anything much; but it’s possible it can see use.

The OP is a real Bernstein and Woodward uncovering the truth that Druid/Ranger is OP and unbeatable in PvP! How could this go unnoticed by everyone playing PvP!

Yeah. OP history thanks for suggestion; sorry to rag on ya Darkside but you made it too easy. Yes, put that staff away for a shortbow… I can’t tell if he’s trolling or not tbh.

I never played Ranger then; I still enjoy it! Granted; I’m talking PvE only. But that video does look amazing!

What it means imo is Sword offers comparable DPS with hammer and different utility. More mobility, fury, and choice of OHs. Even if hammer edges out sword at the end pending traits; sword was in no league before patch; this just adds needed options to Guardian. Not always about pure DPS; for me anyways. I personally never liked hammer in playstyle; but was forced to use it to be competitive (in PvP/WvW anyways). Even PvE really; now my much more favored sword/OH style is useful and competitive (regardless if hammer is still a little more DPS). Thanks for all the tests!

Rangers didn’t get any big nerfs imo; it seems that way and stand out like Axe OH because, Rangers have SO FEW options. I will admit pet names sticking was one of my biggest gripes and lets be honest same with many ppl BUT if that’s where the majority of Ranger changes went man that’s absurd – a lot of issues with Ranger is PvP/WvW. I enjoy Ranger in PvE. I like warhorn buff; Axe nerf imo isn’t end of world; and ok Moa’s can compete cool. But… there’s so much more that could have been done like was done to Guardians (and I am so glad as my 2nd main is a Guardian). Rangers rightly feel ignored; and a honestly unnecessary nerf to Axe is a slap in a face; buff to WH just essentially replaces OH; don;t get it but whatever, I am not hating like others just disappointed.

First; PvE, PvP, WvW?
2nd: Much nerfs and issues are with scrapper, which is 80. Levelling esp PvE you’ll not feel nerfed really. It’s still very fun class, and one of my favs levelling.

I wish they fixed things engi needed fixing, turrets esp and defensive things. That’s also a lot of understandable crying is; that they did not address fundamental issues still.

mrauls.6519:

Vyrulisse.1246:

mrauls.6519:

I have a bad feeling we’re going to see an influx of Guardians…

Why is that a problem? I’ve been toying with the idea of making one for weeks but since I make it now I’m going to be chastised? :\

Don’t act like Guardians aren’t everywhere already. I always see ’em running around. :P

I’m afraid our happiness will attract too much negative attention

Given every other class but Mesmer are crying boo louder than Bernie Sanders supporters, yeah probably; but you can’t take away how dire this class needed buffing/rebalancing. I am no Guardian expert I came into this a few months while DH was struggling; but levelling I still heavily enjoyed the class and idea of it. I wasn’t end-game for long with it but I am happy my 2nd fav class got love. (fav is engi, and yeahhhh). But no one should hate because their class maybe got nerfed or other issues weren’t addressed, while another got stronger that very much needed it.

Nusku.3941:

You know; there’s a won ton of people complaining about this, and what I don’t understand is how are people not even considering warrior? They have passive speed and are just as heavy. Heck, even revenants man. Plus they deal more damage output.

Why do people just suggest “play another class” always annoys me. Maybe we like to be Guardians and not Warriors. I find Warrior extremely boring; I love Guardian playstyle and potential; besides the speed issue is least of a reason to play another class we do have the shout.

Just because another “melee” type class > Guardian in ways isn’t a reason to just play it, and believe me a lot do that. Revenant is fun I prefer it over Warrior; but it has its own issues. But I’m also one not fully set up on Guardian/etc. PvE still having fun, not PvPing with it; so there’s that. I just love the class still.

Like it’s said; there’s no right/wrong answer tbh though maybe some leanings. This game offers everything to all playstyles even within a profession you can focus/play differently with spec/elite and such.

I am still newer to game, I’ll just state my opinion and it’s changed. Imo there’s early, mid, end levels you have to judge on. I don’t discuss one if I’ve not gotten it to at least level 16, as that’s when my least fav class became my fav :P

FAV SO FAR:

1.) Engineer – it WAS my least fav early on. No weap swap; I didn’t completely like dual pistol abilities/sound. I like ranged but overall prefer melee DPS. Once the hero points started; got turrets, kits, it was amazingly improved in fun. So much versatility. Maybe being Asura helps the style a lot; it fits too well with their race.

2.) Guardian – Ultimately fits my playstyle best. Melee and support. Not DH yet so no LB, I much enjoy GS and the melee kit of class over Warrior. Just love the RP aspects too. I don’t need to be top DPS class; but DPS/support heal or tank is where it’s at for me. Or pure heals. But this game isn’t about pure anything. I love the Paladin style so Guardian for style and RP is why I’m loving it.

3.) Necro – My ultimate fav kind of healer is life steal etc. bloodmage. But not quite there early levels; the shroud is interesting; I haven’t gotten used to that but it’s a much different aspect to build life force. It’s fun; that’s why I like it just very different; and I want to get more life sapping abilities though they don’t heal group greatly. I don’t enjoy the undead theme personally so I don’t play as often as I can.

THE ALMOST:

4.) Ranger – My ticket to 80 Druid – I didn’t use till I was in 20s. I love the pet aspect personally, range and melee mixed well. But, yeah there’s boring aspects. Druid I was eh about at first but I usually am a Healer, so it fits haven’t played enough as Druid yet so this could end up being my fav! I like pet classes and naming/handling it I like that more than many of the abilities Ranger has which can be a bit vanilla; their traps are underwhelming imo.

PETS = ONE OF MY FAVS btw; I LOVE this aspect of Ranger most; a lot; it keeps me playing it, but everything else to me personally is eh.

LEAST FAV:

Warriors – I tried; I love melee; but the GS/hammer/other just aren’t fun skills compared to Guardian or even Ranger personally. Charr Warrior, eh. I rerolled Revenant and much better experience. I know Warriors end-game are good.

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Thief and Elementalist. I never liked pure mage classes; but I am unfair to ele reading more and feedback esp wtih conjurings, like a GS I can see how this is maybe more variety than Engineer. I’ll give it a try. Thief; unsure.