And I am flatly against a dungeon finder. Automatically throwing me into a room with 5 strangers is cold and mechanical. It’s like sorting objects on a factory line. No thanks.
Yes, because spamming “LF2M FotM lvl 10” is meaningful conversation.
No, LotRO is terrible. It’s the example of what they should AVOID. They designed the game (from Isengard onward) around the cash shop and not the opposite.
Oh, what content do you need to pay extra for before you can play it then? Must have missed something.
Au contraire, the cash shop doesnt offer me anything I want. So even if I want to buy gems, I wouldnt know what to do with them.
paid tournaments!? of course you can get tickets by winning free tournaments (theoretically possible) and grinding daylies:) it is a fine line anet is crossing… im wondering whats next? will it cost to rent a room in pvp? how much? of course you will also have freedom to do 100 other things to get your room, but if you dnt feel like it, gem shop!
so essentailly what you’re saying is making stuff optional and / or aquirable in other ways not just using money isnt enough for you? its still greedy / a fine line easily crossed?
What else do you want them to do ? any example of a cash shop in any game thats better then this?
League.
The cash shop is 100% optional. It pretty much just sells cool skins. You can buy xp boosts but it seems fairly pointless to me since since you’re learning the game on your to lvl 30, or IP boosts, but Riot gives out free IP boosts every now and then. My point is when you’re playing League the cash shop feels 100% optional. Players spend money on skins and stuff because they LOVE the game, not because they feel like they need to spend money to keep a competitive edge.
This.
I play LoL and their business model is SO much win. I’ve spent about 500 euros in a few months in their cash shop, just for some nice skin.
How many money I plan to spend in GW2 cash shop? ZERO. Not with this P2W model who forces you to buy gems.
no offence but isnt unlocking specific characters more pay to win then anything you could possibly buy in gw2?
Nope, you get 10 free characters every week and you can unlock characters with the points earned in game. Unlocking one, even the most expensive one, is a matter of a few games. It’s a very quick process, I don’t play it a lot or regularly and I’ve already bought way more characters than I could (and want to) use. And used real money only for skins. And I didn’t need the skins, I just wanted to support the developers, since the game is free.
There is absolutely no way to avoid grinding in an RPG. You have to grind through levels, quests/events, skill points, crafting levels, personal story missions, and more…
It is inevitable.
WoW (and clones) just brainwashed you to think it is inevitable.
Oh, what content do you need to pay extra for before you can play it then? Must have missed something.
Au contraire, the cash shop doesnt offer me anything I want. So even if I want to buy gems, I wouldnt know what to do with them.
paid tournaments!? of course you can get tickets by winning free tournaments (theoretically possible) and grinding daylies:) it is a fine line anet is crossing… im wondering whats next? will it cost to rent a room in pvp? how much? of course you will also have freedom to do 100 other things to get your room, but if you dnt feel like it, gem shop!
so essentailly what you’re saying is making stuff optional and / or aquirable in other ways not just using money isnt enough for you? its still greedy / a fine line easily crossed?
What else do you want them to do ? any example of a cash shop in any game thats better then this?
League.
The cash shop is 100% optional. It pretty much just sells cool skins. You can buy xp boosts but it seems fairly pointless to me since since you’re learning the game on your to lvl 30, or IP boosts, but Riot gives out free IP boosts every now and then. My point is when you’re playing League the cash shop feels 100% optional. Players spend money on skins and stuff because they LOVE the game, not because they feel like they need to spend money to keep a competitive edge.
This.
I play LoL and their business model is SO much win. I’ve spent about 500 euros in a few months in their cash shop, just for some nice skin.
How many money I plan to spend in GW2 cash shop? ZERO. Not with this P2W model who forces you to buy gems.
As of right now legendary weapons are mandatory simply because they will always be best in slot no matter what.
Do you realize that when they’ll raise the level cap (and/or add new legendaries), which they already said they will with an expansion, current legendaries will be totally useless, right?
Already stated that legendaries will remain the best of all so id say pretty mandatory in long term play
They stated that they will be on par with ascended weapons.
If they stated that they will be leveled up with the expansion, I would like to read that. Do you have a link to back up your claim?
“Legendary items were always intended to be on par with other “best-in-slot” items. So fear not, all existing Legendary weapons, which are currently on par with Exotics, will be upgraded to be on par with Ascended weapons at the same time that we add Ascended weapons to the game. Thus Legendaries will remain “best-in-slot” items.”
Emphasis mine.
He talks about ascends, doesn’t talk about future expansions.
Soooooo… let me be skeptic. Especially considering the statements on vertical progression, before & after.
@Mirta
At the moment you are the top of the food chain. A hardcore player with established 80s and money in the bank. Not trying to take away from your achievements but tH majority of that success would have come before the income nerfs.
What chance does a new player now have to try and get to a lvl playing field? How much more difficult do you think it is now then 3 months ago ?
Those that have played since release and pushed through the content early have a distinct advantage over those players now entering the game. How much worse is that gap going to become over the next 3 months?
Agree.
Just think about the bank slots, for example.
As of right now legendary weapons are mandatory simply because they will always be best in slot no matter what.
Do you realize that when they’ll raise the level cap (and/or add new legendaries), which they already said they will with an expansion, current legendaries will be totally useless, right?
Already stated that legendaries will remain the best of all so id say pretty mandatory in long term play
They stated that they will be on par with ascended weapons.
If they stated that they will be leveled up with the expansion, I would like to read that. Do you have a link to back up your claim?
As of right now legendary weapons are mandatory simply because they will always be best in slot no matter what.
Do you realize that when they’ll raise the level cap (and/or add new legendaries), which they already said they will with an expansion, current legendaries will be totally useless, right?
The whole point of these nerfs, which are intentional without a doubt, is that you spend more rl money on their piece of crap gem store. No subs so they have to sucker you in some how.
Meanwhile, on the volcano fractal:
Grawl teleport bug on prisoners is STILL here.
But hey, keep fixing ONLY the bugs that can advantage the player and leave there the ones who annoy and slow us down.
“I changed the title to reflect that it is a personal opinion”
Endquote.
Thats a broad line you moderators have Martin, your asusmption that your change was warranted, it was not, that was your opinion on the OP’s opinion.
As an FYI for you Martin and whatever you thought you were doing in your own mind, every post in these forums is a personal opinion. You were totally in the wrong for singling this person out because you could, not because you should have.
You are a fine example of spite Martin, this isnt a call out, you were wrong, plain and simple and you need to make a retraction and apologize to the OP, regardless of what you think Martin. You need to know your role as a moderator and not the spiteful employee, or you will be spending the next ten years adding “personal opinion” to every post title on this gaming site.
In my 3 decades as an NCO and a professional i have never seen anyone like you blatantly do something like this and then try to substantiate it. I have already sent a copy to your corporate before you “delete this because you can”.
You moderators need to know your roles and re-read your own TOS. Without negative feedback a business becomes complacent, many businesses leave negative feedback for learning purpose, they do not modify it to suit there own needs or attack an individual as you did.
My personal opinion, you screwed up Martin and now you need to fix it. I have already sent a copy to your corporate before you “delete this because you can”.
+1.
You just abused the OP because you could.
And it’s not his personal opinion, because I (and others like me) have the same feeling towards the game.
I am FREEEEEEEEEEEEE. I don’t need to worry about progression, I progressed the last progression. I can play for fun and don’t need to give a kitten about whatever screw up anet put in this game. 7 Fractals in my holiday month? GO FRAC YOURSELF. I don’t need to get frac for M-coin, karma or 50s. I don’t even know what do these fracs have to do with my heroes and Tyria. Fun for the first few times but suck afterward. And there is no need to LFG, no need to learn dungeon exploits and no need to teach dungeon exploits. I don’t need to chat business causal, I can chat whatever I want including trolling and bullkitten. I can now do whatever I want without worrying about hindering my progression because there is no progressions left for me. And finally thanks for everyone who directly or indirectly helped me on my legendary, I know some of you but not all, like the guy selling precursor cheap after LS event.
God, I envy you. I’m farming for it myself. Hope it won’t take too long so I can start ENJOYING the game.
The fixes for the empty zone problems are easy, ANet just won’t do them.
A) People get loot drops appropriate to their level in all areas, however repeating the same event chain will cause a steady and continual drop in the level obtained.
B) ALL armor, runes, sigils, and any other boost will scale down with your level, so that a level 80 can’t one-shot farm a level 1-15 area. Every area will be challenging.
C) Exotics have a small chance of dropping anywhere, ascended gear has a very very very small chance of dropping anywhere.
D) Additionally, armor and weapon appearance is a big part of the game. Currently, we just need more volume in my opinion, make more armor and make it available in open world PvE in the large scale end-zone event like the fire elemental and the shadow behemoth, for map completions, or taking down champion mobs.
We were told that the entire persistent world would be the end game, this was false. Can you do it all? Yes, absolutely. But an Olympic sprinter can win any highschool track meet, how often do you see them there? Never.
This goal needs to be achieved, it was one of the main selling points of the game and not reaching it is paramount to false advertising.
As for WvW, I have no idea. That entire server-hopping situation was handled terribly and I don’t know if there is a fix other than forcing people off highly-populated servers. Something the community wouldn’t take kindly to.
EDIT: AABC… I know my alphabet I swear!
You forgot the “resource problem”.
I’d rather farm in Orr than Queensdale because I can mine Ori, ancient sapling, omnomberries etc.
So, I really doubt that we’ll ever see the whole game as the endgame.
The changed prices come from a lack of supply relative to demand, not from a substantial increase in inflation (this is apparent when you look at the TP as a whole bundle of good rather than just a few items).
Yes, but ectos aren’t just another type of goods, they are required to make exotics.
Price spikes on these items hurt players where it matters, in their gear. Not in something cosmetic that you ‘can do without’, like dye, but in their gear.
You may reason that it is ‘the market’, but the end-result is the same for the players: a doubled price.
Result: new 80s can simply not afford things anymore.
This is hurting the game, in my opinion.
I’m rich, so I’m not bothered by it, but when you look at the player-base as a whole, this is hurting a group of people that you want to cater for: the players that are on one of the game’s most critical moments, the moment where they often decide to stay or leave: when they hit the max level.
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I do not know if there is some sort of marketing theory behind these prices. Maybe Anet thinks something like ‘yeah, well, if they want exotics, they can buy gems and turn them into gold’. Maybe Anet makes more money from people that do this then it looses on people that leave because of this.
But my guess is that they loose valuable customers over this.
I agree.
I play since day 1, I’ve got my gear and I have no problems with it. But I feel sorry for new players.
As you can see, there are two little red vertical lines that kinda “split” the skin of this armor. It’s more obvious in game, than in the pictures.
It may be a minor thing, but it’s kind of a big deal to me, since it’s my favourite armor and it ruins it.
Shouldn’t be too hard to fix…
Race – Human
Sex – Male
Class – Thief
The armor SHOULD be a “duelist coat”, not sure ’cause I trasmuted it a long time ago. PvP version of this one has, obviously, the same problem and its the “PvP Leather Coat”.
DR wasn’t enabled to combat bots. It was to make sure you use the gem shop. They keep lowering the drop rate to find out what our limit is. You want DR to go away? Stop using the gem store.
This.
Do you really think it was to combat bots? It hurts everyone, bots and players alike, so in the end it doesn’t change much for a gold seller if he made less gold, because everyone else did, and the situation for them is exactly the same as before.
there is no fun way to make money in this game. it is all a repetitive grind.
Or playing the TP.
But no thanks, I want to play Guild Wars 2, not Wall Street.
I never had any problems so huge in making money in any other MMO (and I played a lot of them), this is way too frustrating.
… looks that the gear grind is here to say, and GW2 is just taking up space on HD.
I’ll check back in a few years, to see if ArenaNet has sorted out their waffling. In the mean time, Elder Scrolls Online is only months away, and Skyrim, with tons of reality mods is looking amazing, looks far better and runs far cooler than gw2,
Good Luck with all the monkey grinds.
Elder Scrolls Online has the gear treadmill too, fyi.
But they will be blown away by ESO.
The only way for them to not be would have been staying loyal to their manifesto and be UNIQUE; A game without vertical progression, grind and treadmills.
Changing that, they are just one of the many mmo around, and there is no reason to keep playing GW2 instead of ESO.
For how long? At some point you’ll have to buy gems or die in this kittened-up economy.
No, you have a third option at that point. Find something else to play. No offense intended, just pointing out you don’t have to break out your wallet if the game gets unfun due to restrictions on in game wealth. Just walk away.
TL:DR – ArenaNet is going to do what it wants with Ascended gear, no matter what anyone says, and they won’t grow a spine and actually stick to any principles. They’re wishy-washy, difficult to pin down, and don’t appear to have a clue.
I’m done here. Goodbye ArenaNet and GW2. I waited patiently for this AMA in the (vain) hope you’d realize that the game you sold me and the game you have now are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I’m sick at heart that I was actually stupid enough to spend money in your gem store thinking that this was going to be a long-term game for me.
Boy, was I a sucker.
Enjoy your $40. It’s the last you’ll ever get from me, and hopefully many other people. You don’t deserve it.
Not that you will read this, or care. You’ll just ignore this thread until you think you can get away with locking and deleting it. You’ll give virtual “infractions” to anyone who speaks up against the about-face in principles that you just performed.
Point is, you don’t care any more about your game. And your target audience is clearly not your original Guild Wars fan base.
Yes, I’m angry and disappointed and frustrated. I’ve wasted money and time on yet another RIFT/Aion/SWTOR type crap game.
The Spirit of Guild Wars died on 15 November 2012. RIP
Edit: Added an afterthought.
This.
This AMA was only PR bullkitten and lies, and I’m not buying a single gem from their shop anymore.
I want to say one thing about it, taking World of Warcraft as our usual example.
WoW doesn’t have a new “color” tier with every dungeon, yet it has a dozen or so of progressive tiers of the same color (purple).
This is the exact same thing.
There are tiers.
They plainly lied in the manifesto when they said that you would have had a maximun power set and that would have been it, no gear progression, no treadmill.
As you can see, there are two little red vertical lines that kinda “split” the skin of this armor.
I know, it may be a minor thing… but it’s kind of a big deal to me, since it’s my favourite armor and it ruins it.
Shouldn’t be too hard to fix…
please Share ure ideas!
