I use a great-sword, a hammer for bosses, and a long-bow for ranged attacks. I’m willing to fiddle around with my traits a bit, I use “Mending,” “Frenzy,” “Bull’s Charge,” “Endure Pain,” and “Signet of Rage.” I’m just looking for a versatile build, something that I can use in almost any situation. I don’t need to be the best at anything, I just need to be solid without losing too much “DPS.”
I’m currently working on a set of power/toughness/vitality armor, I was wondering what the best superior runes for this set would be, I don’t plan to stand out with “DPS” or to be a tank, I’d just like something well balanced, I was thinking about “of the Dolyak,” “of the Scholar,” or “of Divinity.” I’m open to new suggestions thought! Thanks in advance for the replies.
Yeah, but some of us would like to sell our multiples and buy the Wintersday mini-pets we’re missing, a 7 gold return on the hundreds of gold some of us spent on Wintersday chests is measly.
I would love to see this!
I tried this and lost 20 silver, and 3 skill points. It isn’t guaranteed money.
They are too busy banning people for ruining the economy due to an oversight on their holiday recipe that allowed you to generate infinite money (that has been reported since the day the event started).
I bought and will probably hold onto 50 stuffing because of a silly rumor I heard for what happens to things later on after the event has ended. It probably won’t even happen but eh it’s just 40s so I’m fine with that.
What rumor would that be?
ArenaNet introduced the Mad King’s chests to ease the pain, I have yet to see something like that for this event. I’m not impressed with ArenaNet and like many others I feel frustrated when I log in, the empty slots in the mini-pets tab, another reminder of the money I wasted.
It’s really easy to leave a “bot” running around but doing things like that on the Trading Post takes some research.
I don’t think they’re rare, I think they’re the most common of all the Wintersday mini-pets but that could be me. I have 5 of them.
There really is no problem to solve and no need for A.net to implement easy ways to get the pet after lots of people spent $50+ to get it, successful or not.
They have been aware of player concerns about cash shop RNG items from both previous events they held, so you can assume the odds for the pets and pricing of the shop item are both intended. Nothing to fix and nothing to see here.
(and before you start any attacks, I spent 2000ish gems on fixed price items for this event, thought about the RNG item and decided to vote with my wallet by not buying any)
Some people in this game pride themselves on their complete collection of mini-pets, they don’t farm for legendaries or fractal relics, they spend all their gold on completing their collection, it’s what’s fun for these people, some of those people have spend roughly 200$ and still haven’t received all four Wintersday mini-pets to completed their collection. In your opinion those people should just forget about their goals? They should do something else instead of what they find fun and want? I don’t think that you can deny that having people spend 50$ on each Wintersday mini-pet to complete their collection is unfair, that would be like if ArenaNet sold precursors in the gem store for 300$ and made them account bound so the only way to get one was through the gem shop, would people buy it? Yes, if they weren’t willing they would be so upset they might quit the game because after all that hard work and gold they can’t reach their goal without forking out 300$. You said you would vote with your wallet by not buying anything, this statement alone admits you think that this system is a problem, so I don’t understand why you said you don’t?
Not to mention I’m simply saying that there should be a way to trade your duplicates for the mini-pet you want.
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(Warning ahead of time, Sorry if its long winded and sounds like a temper tantrum but this is a serious complaint I have and I just cant keep it to myself.)
Please explain to me why the new mini’s are account bound? Why in the world would you do this? I am spending real money, to get minis I cant sell or trade. Not to mention if I get more than one of the same mini, wth am I supposed to do with it? This makes no logical sense. I can understand making the special mini (The Quaggan one) account bound because you have to trade three for it but once you have it, what do you do with the extra mini’s? I can’t sell them! Cant even give them away. I don’t need them for my other character’s.
Also, what if its nearing the end of the event and there is one or more minis I just cant seem to get. Am I supposed to spend my life savings and hope I dont get any more duplicates and just maybe be super lucky to get the ones I need? You wont allow me to buy the missing ones from TP. Is this your new marketing ploy. Making items impossible to get without spending real money or converting my in game money into gems.
I hardly ever have more than 5 gold at anyone time so I get to trade that in for what, 250 gems. I can only get two gifts with that and that is hours of hard work. I can’t earn it like others by doing dungeons and such because I have no friends who want to play the game and guild is hardly ever on. While that is unrelated and mostly my problem, it is just sickening to me that this is how you work with paying customer. I have spent so much real money on gems and it always worked out because I could sell the items I cant use or the mini’s already have. Now, you have taken that away. Its not worth spending my hard earned money for items I cant trade or sell. Its just sickening.
Allready answered this same question in 3 other forum posts, guess the moderators fell asleep on the job again when it comes to dupe posts.
USE THE EXTRA MINIS IN THE FORGE TO GET OTHER RARE MINIS
EXAMPLE:
SNOWMAN+SNOWMAN+SNOWMAN+SNOWMAN = POLAR BEAR/IMP/ ANOTHER MINIThe power of the search button goes over looked AGAIN
That’s useless and doesn’t answer anyone’s question or solve any of our issues.
The power of reading goes over looked again.
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I had obtained at least 200 Toy Soldier tonics before I got my Endless Toy Soldier tonic.
I’m not going to get an infraction, I’m not calling out ArenNet in any way. I think a simple solution would be to add a system when listing something for more than XXX amount of gold results in a listing expiration. It would encourage people to sell to the highest offer or to price something reasonably so that they wouldn’t lose the listing fee once their listing expired. This would also keep people from total market control but might be killed with people undercutting by one copper, that could also be tweaked, like forcing you to make a listing for the same price or at least XX gold/silver higher or at least XX gold/silver lower.
Chasing a legendary weapons in like chasing a carrot on a string. It gets more difficult each day. ArenaNet had said that the plan for legendary weapons was to create a long term goal. The way it stands right now, the sooner you get one the better it is. I can’t imagine this is working as intended considering ArenaNet intended for legendary weapons to be a long term goal, the longer it takes the more difficult it becomes. I remember a time when Dusk was 20 gold on the Trading Post, when lodestones were less than a gold, now they increase in value every day. I don’t want to hear people say things like, it gets easier to make gold and so things are more expensive. That really isn’t true, sure you can farm Fractals of the Mists all day but ArenaNet specifically said they didn’t want people to “grind” in this game, well ArenaNet you’re forcing our hands, if we don’t “grind” then our goals get farther away each day. It does nothing but punish casual player and in all honesty I don’t think ArenaNet has a scavenger hunt planned, the comment was something about giving precursors a more scavenger hunt feel, which could mean anything from putting a few more chests in the world to slightly increasing the drop rate. None of these things are viable solutions, people are controlling the precursor market and that is disgusting, people who got lucky and made a lot of gold early will continue to make more money from their money and those of us who might have played 1000 hours already from the first day of head-start access and weren’t quite so lucky will forever be broke.
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Yep. Originally numbers like 25% were being tossed around and some people said it couldn’t be less than 10%.
People also hadn’t fully considered the draw-back of recieving a random amount of an account bound non-consumable item you will never need more than 1 of.
Ah yeah. I think the rates are closer to 2~5% per pet which is pretty bad for something you can’t get rid of if you are unlucky.
I think it’s unacceptable to have drop rates as low as they are even if they aren’t “2~5%.” It’s foreseeable that someone could spend 500$ and might not have all three mini-pets.
I’m slightly OCD so now that I have two of the pets it’s all or nothing which is unfortunate.
Yup. Simply don’t buy RNG-stuff. You knew in advance and still you put those $ in.
No one knew how bad the chances were to get all four mini-pets.
They might have mistakenly written that “Wintersday Mystery Boxes” would appear in the world instead of the normal, much more common “Mysterious Presents.”
The names are pretty similar, so it could have been a simple case of miscommunication between the developers and patch note writers.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wintersday_Mystery_Box
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mysterious_Present
That wouldn’t explain why the patch notes state that it has a rare chance to drop in the world.
Gambling is for those who want a chance to get something for nothing. That’s what you get. A chance. Don’t like it? Don’t gamble.
If that were the case we’d all be happy, but it costs 2 gold to participate which is something and we don’t get any return except the cosmetic mini-pets, so in essence the problem is that we get nothing from something on a regular basis.
No actually it doesn’t work like that. 2 gold is the cost of the chance. If you “win” you get something whose arbitrary value is perceived as much higher than those initial two gold. Thus, you get “something for nothing” because in case you win, that initial investment is instantly forgotten. Of course, if you lose, then you are acutely aware of those two gold pieces. With each failed repetition you get more and more aware of the fact that you are gambling until you finally arrive at the conclusion that chance-based activities are really not a reliable way of getting anything.
Except I don’t think anyone perceives the mini-pets as being a much higher value. Which is why I stated nothing from something.
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Gambling is for those who want a chance to get something for nothing. That’s what you get. A chance. Don’t like it? Don’t gamble.
If that were the case we’d all be happy, but it costs 2 gold to participate which is something and we don’t get any return except the cosmetic mini-pets, so in essence the problem is that we get nothing from something on a regular basis. I don’t see why everyone who doesn’t participate feels the need to state that in these threads, it wouldn’t affect you one way or another?
It breaks trust, as mentioned in either this or some other thread where that suggestion was brought up.
Would you be willing to spend money on a company that would have no problem changing methods of acquisition weeks after previously stating the only way to obtain it was a Mystery Box?
Look at it from a different POV. Say you were the guy above that spent $163 just to get all of those pets. Then ArenaNet came out right after and just silently added a trio pack without telling anyone (since that’s probably how they would do it lol). Would you, as that guy, be willing to spend money again? You would probably only wait until the end of events or something so that you don’t end up in that situation again.
If they are going to do anything to this specific set of minis (which they aren’t, commerce team has pretty much laid down that law) while the event is still going they’d be better off removing the account bound property. That’s something they could do at any time though I guess.
The problem is no one should have to spend 50$ on each mini-pet. ArenaNet has never stated that these mystery boxes were the only way to obtain these mini-pets, in fact according to the patch notes, the mystery boxes are supposed to drop around Tyria. (Which they haven’t been.) The poster who spent 163$ even says he can’t afford to keep doing this, I think he’d be willing to take a hit this once for the sake of having these mini-pets cheaper in the future.
As it stands as soon as this event finishes my collection will forever be incomplete, small potatoes to most but to some this really matters. Please have a think about this AN, I don’t think we’re being unreasonable in wanting to keep our in game collections complete.
There’s always next year…
(unless Grenth decides to kill Tixx during Winterdays end event before he leaves Lions Arch ofcourse…)
We can’t be sure if these mini-pets will even be available next year, if you look at the first Guild Wars the mini-pets changed year-to-year.
My point stands whether the issue is with cost or implementation. If either doesn’t meet your needs/standards, then don’t participate. It’s the only way changes will be made to the current structure.
If that were true then the method we obtained weapon skins from the Black Lion chests would be the same, the “mini-pet trio” would also be the same. They sold more Black Lion keys than they did these Wintersday chests, I’m sure of it. Because of the negative response from the community they changed these things. If we don’t voice our opinions then how will ArenaNet know that the poor sales are because of the low drop rate and not that no body wants these mini-pets? They might come to their own conclusions.
This is how I see it….
This is a MMO, this is not real life. We come here to escape Real Life. I will not worry about how much money I make ingame or how much I financially “compete” with other Players. If I want to act like a “financial elite wannabe” I will do so in real life, not in a MMO. There are much better and more efficient ways to do that outside of Guild Wars 2.
If I want to make money in GW2 I will play the game and sell the good stuff on AH so others can get thier hands on it. That way others benefit and so do I. Mini’s are fluff and I treat them as such. That doesn’t mean I should be able to make a profit on them. I treat them as additional rewards for playing GW2, that is all.
I have no argument or objection to the Mini’s being account bound. None whatsoever. Wintersday is supposed to be for fun, like this MMO.
This video game is an escape for a lot of people, some people seek fulfillment that they cannot currently attain in their day to day life. I’ll admit that’s me. I think that these mini-pets being account bound is an issue. It’s Christmas is it really appropriate to charge me 2$ or 2 gold for each what appears to be gifts? Although the majority of the issue I have lies in the way we attain the mini-pets the blow would be so much softer if the return wasn’t so low, if I sell everything I get in a box that isn’t a mini-pet, I’ve converted 2 gold or 2$ into less than a silver. You might not have an issue with this but anyone who is like minded to me will. If it doesn’t bother you then don’t worry about it.
Disagree
People have used real money to get these special mini pets. If you ain’t gonna try your luck with real money, you ain’t getting these pets. Tough luck but that’s how it is.
If they become un-account bound, they will become buyable with in-game currency and that’s the same as giving the paying users the finger. Get over yourselves people.You do understand that the only people initially selling them for gold would be the people who bought them with cash right? So you’re saying those people would essentially be giving themselves the finger?
Frankly, the only finger I see is the one flipped at the people ending up with multiple identical account bound minis that they can’t sell, trade, or even give away.
Don’t forget the people who spent 50$ + and still don’t have them all.
I agree that paying money just for a CHANCE at minipets is over the top and the system could be handled better. The store should be more of a shortcut, where you can pay to get pets/outfits that you otherwise have to grind for. I liked WingOfAsgard’s suggestion of having the minipets also be purchaseable for high amounts of ugly wool clothes or similar. It feels better to grind/work for a reward in a game than just to dish out on a gamble, and those who don’t have time to grind could still buy the pets at the store. Free to attain boxes can have a low drop rate and that’s fine, but something you pay for should not be a gamble.
I suggested another possibility in a similar thread this morning. Make a mystic forge recipe that takes 10 Wintersday Boxes, 100 Wads of Stuffing, 100 Drops of Glue, and 100 cogs to create a Wintersday Mini Trio Box. Many of us now have an additional 200 cogs lying around and this would be a good use for them.
I think that’s an excellent idea. After opening 60-ish boxes and still NO mini-pets whatsoever; I’d be thrilled with that opportunity.
I’d also cough up some cash, I’ve opened 80 boxes myself and I don’t have the mini-pets I want. Haha
I don’t see why the people who claim to have spent 70$ on the mini-pets and have them all feel more entitled than the person who spend 100$ and has one mini-pet. It’s a bad attitude, it’s all luck and it really shouldn’t be. Not in a Christmas holiday. No spirit of giving in Tyria with everything being account-bound. I would laugh if the strategy was to milk these mini-pets until the event is over and then remove the account-bound after the holiday.
The problem with this is it only really works for people who have an equal number of excess and missing minis.
For example if you got 6 snowmen it’d be perfect – you could use 3 to make Foostive, trade 2 in for the Golem and Airship and have 1 left. But if you got 5 snowmen and 2 Golems, you use 3 to make Foostive, trade 1 and still have 1 extra.
It also doesn’t help at all for those who gambled everything they could afford and were left with nothing, or who couldn’t buy gems at all. Which is why I think making them unbound would be the best solution, it would work like this approach where those with extra minis could trade them for ones they’re missing (or for gold to buy the ones they’re missing) but the extras could also go to those who want them.
I would be willing to buy another box or two if I knew that all I had to do was get one of the mini-pets and not the exact mini-pet I need, I’ve almost given up on getting the snowman mini-pet after opening at least 80 boxes and getting three festive golems, and three “Infinirariums.” (I used two "Infinirariums and one festive golem to create Foostivoo.)
Disagree
People have used real money to get these special mini pets. If you ain’t gonna try your luck with real money, you ain’t getting these pets. Tough luck but that’s how it is.
If they become un-account bound, they will become buyable with in-game currency and that’s the same as giving the paying users the finger. Get over yourselves people.
I’ve used 60$ and 96 gold towards these pets, I have 2 festive golems, that’s it. I’m not spending anymore without a “mini-pet trio.” Get over yourself.
+1
I think they should be unbound and a method of trading duplicates for the desired masterwork mini-pets should be introduced.
It’ll stay as it is. As much as some of you people, who haven’t spend anything on the mystery boxes, want it, it’ll stay the same. Anet will never backstab their paying costumers like that.
You don’t think spending 75$ in the gem store and getting one mini-pet is back stabbing their paying customers?
I thought of a solution that would solve the problem with the low mini-pet drop rate and keep those with the mini-pets happy. Create a trader that allows us to trade in our unwanted mini-pets for the mini-pets we want, like the trader that takes ugly wool items just have three tabs with the accepted currency being the mini-pet you have and would like to trade for one of the other two you don’t. (Obviously Foostivoo would not be included unless of you could trade him for two of the masterwork mini-pets.)
Does anyone see a problem with this?
So far people have suggested:
Removing account-bound. (Which isn’t a bad idea.)
Creating a “mini-pet trio.” (I can see why those who spent more than 75$ to obtain all these pets would be upset.)
Allowing a crafting recipe for the mystery boxes in the mystic forge. (Also a good idea.)
Also you think the people who spent 80$ on mini-pets would be upset if ArenaNet released them for 10$, how about the people who spent 100$ and still only have one of the pets and refuse to spend anymore? Do you think they’re kitten off?
How does this have anything to do with legendaries? I don’t think ArenaNet should give out legendaries, I think that ArenaNet should make mini-pets available in the gem store without “RNG.” If I think that then obviously those things aren’t similar in any circumstance.
Wolfey you obviously don’t understand what I’m saying. It wouldn’t be political suicide either, by your logic ArenaNet should have gone under when they gave us 250 extra mystical cogs and more frames after selling Tixx’s mini-pets on the gem store.
You guys are both missing the point, I spent around 60$ – 75$ on these mini-pets, I’m not entitled to be mad if they fixed this. You’re basically saying that you’d rather continue to pay 100$ for these mini-pets on each event for the next 5 years, than to pay 10$ and look the other way this time for the sake of saving money later? That is incredibly selfish and I’m honestly blown away that you think you’re entitled to a refund.
Although I don’t have statistics I’m aware that many people won’t even bother with “RNG” I don’t blame them, I won’t be any longer.
Had ArenaNet sold a “mini-pet trio” for 300 gems, and then had us buy a second trio to obtain Foostivoo I think they would have made more money.
10 – 75$ from 1000 people, is mere pennies in comparison to 10$ from 100,000 people.
Putting the container in after the event has kicked off is only going to cause backlash.
That is a lousy attitude to have, I’ve spent plenty of money to obtain these mini-pets and if they added a mini-pet trio I would be pleased. There is something wrong with this system for acquiring these mini-pets and if they fix it I don’t think anyone should complain. It would just mean that you won’t have to shell out 75$ on mini-pets for the next event.
We’ve seen people mention the low drop rates of Foostivoo from Wintersday Mystery Box and would like to remind people that the primary way to obtain this miniature is from the Mystic Forge, by combining other minis (wiki link).
The problem isn’t acquiring Foostivoo, I think the problem for most people is that I could acquire 6 mini-Infinirariums, 2 mini-festive golems, and Foostivoo, never once seeing a mini-snowman.
I won’t let this one go until we get an official response.
I actually think those items were user submitted, if you look at the icon it’s still the Halloween “mini-pet trio.”
I would be equally pleased if they removed “account-bound” from the mini-pets. I’ll just pay with gold from now on for these things. ArenaNet is not getting any of my money for a lottery ticket.
I’m just hoping that they’ll put a Winterday “mini-pet trio” in the gem store before January 3rd.
I think it’s curious that they appeased the people who complained about the weapon skins in the Black Lion Chests during Halloween but made it worse buy making these mini-pets account bound and putting them in a chest that’s not only more expensive but only obtainable through gems.
I’m not saying “RNG” is bad, those Halloween skins wouldn’t be half as cool had they been readily available, either remove the account-bound for the mini-pets or sell them like the Halloween mini-pets.
I would like it if it were more like Halloween, at least when it comes to mini-pets. I get what you mean though, those elusive skins.
Those would also be terrible gifts to have us excited for. I wouldn’t mind if those were Toypocalypse rewards but I’m skeptical that those are even authentic items.
That would be the worst. Lol
I agree this needs to be addressed, I don’t want to be forced to buy any more from the gem store if I want the last two mini-pets I’m missing.