Looks like CD won the race, lol. Was on my lvl 45 ele with Berm in EB, farming SoS and CD. Some great fights for a good hour +. Much fun. Don’t think we had many on last night outside of EB, which was at about half of our regular population. See how our population is next week. People seem to be losing interest in WvW, which I get.
At this point in the week, points are for care bears. 3vs1 is not so bad. Or was it 2vs1? Cause unless you have 3 times the numbers of your opponent you should never engage them in open field battles.
Woah, woah lets not start FPS fighting. That’s a seriously lame excuse to getting kittened by a troll thief. So he did down a lvl 60 alt, that means he is not trash? Also since his fps is higher than 25 it means what? I play on a laptop and my fps is about that in wvw and I don’t see it as an excuse for getting beatin in a 1v1. DUDE you’re FPS is higher, thats why you beat me. Nothing to do with how you spec or play your character in WvW eh? Come on man!! At least come at this troll with something better. Maybe some momma jokes?
He understands that while running d/p he can afford to run a high dmg spec, due to melee blind, even more so if he is roaming and looking for 1v1, 1v2’s and not running with the zerg. I do question his lack of initiative return but he killed 3 of you easily enough :P. He is an annoying troll but with that post you are just feeding him.
Did I miss something amazing?
Something as amazing as a post being removed, for w/e reason.
I say we have a race to take SOS keep in their borderlands. CD take one side, while SBI takes another side. Stay to your side of the pond. MUST turn everything your color on your side. Then hit their garrison from your side and have some fun three ways in SOS lords room. North supply is not in the equation.
Looking at BL’s map, start from Spawn tower/camp on your side, then Hills/Bay then NW/NE camp, NW/NE towers and then Garrison three way kittening. Bored as hell in WvW so all for this Berm.
Woah, woah lets not start FPS fighting. That’s a seriously lame excuse to getting kittened by a troll thief. So he did down a lvl 60 alt, that means he is not trash? Also since his fps is higher than 25 it means what? I play on a laptop and my fps is about that in wvw and I don’t see it as an excuse for getting beatin in a 1v1. DUDE you’re FPS is higher, thats why you beat me. Nothing to do with how you spec or play your character in WvW eh? Come on man!! At least come at this troll with something better. Maybe some momma jokes?
He understands that while running d/p he can afford to run a high dmg spec, due to melee blind, even more so if he is roaming and looking for 1v1, 1v2’s and not running with the zerg. I do question his lack of initiative return but he killed 3 of you easily enough :P. He is an annoying troll but with that post you are just feeding him.
I mean, I appreciate Devon and the attention he gives us on the forums, but understand after the last few patches with arrow carts and the implementation of these traps, that at least on my server, far fewer people have interest in this route you are going with wvw. It almost feels like we are the beta testers with these WvW patches. The Dev’s don’t really seem to understand the overall effects that these changes have to the WvW/PvE environment, before implementation. It REALLY effects how players view you all and thus slowly crumbles any sort of trust amongst the player base and ANET.
Its cute that you said “Will do!” I chuckled for a few seconds but then I realized how long its has taken Anet to take action in WvW compared to PVE and the kittening patches that have taken place in Siege Wars 2 and that the community has plenty of reasons to not take you’re words seriously.
Sooo um by making a post about this on the forums, not in your tier thread you are not going to “keep the drama to a minimum.” IF you wanted to keep the drama to minimum you could handle it internally, on the BG forums or within you’re guild. It’s a Kardashian move man. DON’T BE A KARDASHIAN!!!
Take your lumps, say what you need to say your guild/server and move on. It may take some time but you will find you’re funner in commanding again.
Points? Screw points the rest of this week. More open field battles plz. This week is already decided. Lets just kill each other mercilessly over these next 3 days.
Not sure whats up but our numbers are down a bit this week. Might just be burn out or the new pve content. See what happens next week when we are Red and CD blue. Welcome the change.
Much rather be red. Cause then Green can’t hit you with AC’s from their keep. I am all for rotating colors weekly in WvW and not having it be about how many points you earned in a terribad points system.
Oh as far as the 12 AC’s in SM tower, almost nightly we leave the outer walls down to get you guys to engage in battles, no matter the numbers. You all put down a million AC’s and stay behind SM walls, not wanting to fight. I don’t get it. You know you are going to win the points battle yet sit on your siege, behind tower walls. We put down our AC’s in the lords room to keep SM for battles between the outer and inner walls and generally farm your zerg, with no siege. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if we could hit the outer wall with AC’s placed in the lords room. I think they are still underpowered.
You regularly outnumber us in EB with your zerg, and we don’t run into towers and jump on these broken AC’s. Sorry but we see this almost every night, even when you are running 50-60 deep and you still put down AC’s in the open field, just more lol. If you want respect for your NA, if you want them to improve, fight, learn how to take on greater numbers. You had more then enough on last night to put up good fights. We want good open field battles, engage us and learn and push us as well. Its a hell of a lot more fun then sitting on siege.
Thief with shortbow + s/d + venom aura + signet of malice can be REALLY good for zerging and in smaller groups. I run a tanky s/d sometimes with signet of malice and you can just tear up the guts of an opposing zerg.
Hammer warriors are also great for zerging, with plenty of blast finishers to give area retaliation/cleanse/might, stuns/disruptions and for great justice, shake it off, banners, increasing toughness to nearby members and etc. Few good hammer warriors can really decimate an opposing zerg.
I leveled mostly by kiting mobs with shortbow/pistols, till I hit lvl 40 or so, and then tried many different melee weapons. Kiting is great for survivability and with shortbow, the aoe dmg is really good. D/P is also great, as other stated due to the melee blinds but won’t protect you from ranged attacks. Leveling with a shortbow/pistols early on then switching to melee weapons worked well for me.
Johje, I agree with splitting up the zerg of 50-60 we have in EB. Its just ugly and most of the time half the zerg lags WAY behind. Utilizing a main force and a flanking or offensive and defensive would be far more productive and people would actually learn and become proficient in using more then just 1 to 2 skills during battles.
As it stands now. Bannok, myself and about 10 others keep grouped close and push into and flank the enemy while the rest sit back or try to catch up. Its just not good tactics to have one mega zerg of 60 when only half of them or less are effective in battles.
Its even less effective to have commanders come into EB and run karma trains letting all our upgraded towers being taken. Kitten idiotic. Go to the borderlands with your “fun.” You might actually be productive for once lol.
For me and for the groups I run with EB has been an absolute mess this week. I am sure others have enjoyed it. Been far better more strategic, smaller, more skilled skirmishes on the BL’s. I actually find myself hitting more then just 111111111 ;o. This has generally been the case with BL’s in this match up. Just burned out on EB I guess.
Surprisingly, many good battles on both SoS BL and CD BL on a Thursday night. SoS, that was a nice portal bomb into Bluevale. Also, sorry for calling siegerazor on your zerg at Bluebriar, while we pushed out of the tower. It got many laughs on map/team chat, at your expense ;p. Good numbers on all sides for the night before reset. Good to see.
Unfortunately, EB is becoming less and less enjoyable over the past few weeks, due to commanders and the zerging creating terribad undisciplined players. See if I can get Bannok to move to a borderlands for reset tonight. I know how much you lub CD. Lets give em some attention.
I wouldn’t say that AC’s were never useful, before the patch. Two well placed AC’s could easily take out rams on a gate and make it hard for smallish zergs to actively attack a tower/keep. They are WAY overpowered now and will be horribly abused.
If you simply look at his post history you will get a good idea of what server his guild is currently playing on. If they go to SoS, it would move them up to tier 3, as they do need help during NA, but he clearly stated that tier 3/4 are not an option. Lots of vultures in this post, who seem to have issues with reading comprehension.
WvW is serious bizznats. BTW very disappointed in SBI’s EB crew that, showed up but didn’t REALLY show up, last night. That kitten behavior on the field was disgusting. IF all you are going to do is leech off the zerg and then complain when you stray off the commander tag and thus die ……………… then you deserve the “Cone of Shame!”
Why would we on SBI ever stop……when there are so many walking loot bags still out there XD. We know that due to coverage issues point totals pretty much mean nothing after the weekend. Its more about open field battles and taking opposing keeps on their BL’s, that actually have more then two defenders. Plenty of fun to be had.
Big down vote on the 30 second timer for swords to show up. Just gives more of an advantage to zergs. If you want smaller parties to have an advantage ANET there is a simple adjustment…..
Yummy sweet ele tears. Sooo delicious. So as an ele you got spoiled with having ummm…… every advantage. Tanky, dps, powerful AoE’s, mobility, heals, boons out the kitten and really no down side AT ALL. Now that the playing field is being leveled a bit some of you want to quit? The good players will adjust.
On a nightly basis, SOS usually has the biggest numbers in EB during NA prime time. You can easily run 60-70 deep. Your NA crew just needs to get better. That zerg backs off fights way to often and usually runs around like chickens with their heads cut of during bigger battles. At times you seem to be able to get everyone to coordinate together but generally your EB zerg is REALLY undisciplined.
I would agree, that if you wanted to move up tiers you need some more NA people but your numbers are not that low. That being said, I was really disappointing in how undisciplined we are on SBI as well, when running in any sized zerg. This weekend I saw A LOT people not tracking commander tags and being easily picked off or find themselves alone while the commander was making tactical moves. PAY ATTENTION to your commander tag GDI. By being lazy, undisciplined noobs you are allowing the enemy to rally off your death and just killing the over all strength of the party you are running with.
A 2k heal on a skill that is normally used at the beginning of rotation when you don’t need heals? Its a good gap closer and was good for burst thieves, every 45 seconds, but putting a heal on it just feels like a troll.
They could do so much more with mug. Like make it steal boons, or give some reasonable benefit then heal you for 2k when you are at full health, just lol. Its just one more reason not to play d/d anymore. This feels sooo lazy on ANET’s part.
Siiigh, CD seems to be using their wxp to gain some OP skills. From flying over our party in BL’s to the constant teleporting in EB. Many many reports have been sent yet Anet seems to be taking their sweet time. At least our engineer friend in EB doesn’t have a guild tag anymore, lolololol. Totally makes it ok……….
Honestly, it seems to be some fun bantering from all sides. If anyone is offended by this thread your a bit too sensitive. It’s nothing like the bull kitten that has ensued in many of the other tier threads.
And I can say that after our free fall and then settling in this tier our wvw community has stabilized for now. We have a very dedicated bunch of smaller guilds that work really well together. I am hopeful that we have also turned many of our fair weather care bears into more dedicated participants in WvW.
EB is more of a challenge then the borderlands if you are looking for bigger scale battles and some crazy 3 way fights.
Honestly, CD every night in EB you barely bother with us other than Umber and DG. SoS is more of a concern due to the numbers and golems they can bring in EB. This has nothing to do with skill level btw, its just that sheer numbers = more dmg and supply for siege which equals more of a priority.
EDIT: And what Seren says is correct, depending though on what your priorities are in wvw.
Sorry but CD puts up far better fights, from my perspective. Also the rush we made on the CD keepin EB was with two golems and we completely screwed the kitten. Commander was yelling to clear the walls as the golems went to the middle. Was horrible, lol. If the lemmings listened and cleared the walls we woulda had it but everyone stayed in middle and got pounded with siege kitten de kitten
Last night we, took your Garrison, Hills, Bay and Longview with the same golems. Think it worked out just fine. Don’t know if you are talking about another encounter?
But seriously, the SoS crew in EB really needs to work on their open field engagements. Half your blob stays and fights, well gets ran over, and the second half runs. I just don’t get it. Who commands in EB during NA prime anyway?
Thank you SoS and CD for the loot bags each night in EB. You both are extremely generous to the Bannok train. We don’t even bother to repair SM walls anymore…lulz XD.
Also, funs times with Kiwi in SoS borderlands last night. SoS running that big blob in EB while their borderlands is getting taken. Your NA crew really needs some help.
Wanna give out some props to two of the newer Kiwi commanders I have been running with lately. I know I am gonna get their names horribly wrong but its the Asura mesmer, Seakin? and Charr guardian Gunnab? who have shown great movement and tactics in leading our zergs on different maps. Great job to both of you!!
Kiwi in general has really stepped it up lately and we on SBI appreciate how you held us together during the mass exodus and continue to be a loyal part of our WvW community.
So you want our SEA/Oceanic coverage which is basically not existent? Makes total sense …….
It would do you no good. You would move up a tier and still get pounded during NA prime time and be competitive during other time periods. Also, we don’t have any large NA guilds other then maybe Kiwi that WvW in any kind of numbers. We are a server of pugs. But, gotta say it’s totally classy to come on these forums and try to steal some of CD/SBI’s numbers.
On SBI I honestly don’t care much these days about anything past NA primetime. Which is when the majority of our server populations plays. We do just fine where we are now. 2nd in tier 4 is good for us. No need to transfer to another server to enable them to move up to the crap zerg fests that are tier 3 and up.
I would welcome Yaks back to Tier 4, over having SoS PvD both servers during SEA/Oceanic times. Currently, our NA crew is pretty dominate in this tier, when numbers are anywhere close to equal and our EB crew would welcome the challenge of facing Yaks NA crew.
Asura Engineer in the screen is port hacking and has been reported. Pretty ballsy to do it in front of our zerg. Can someone from CD or this guild deal with this individual. Seems like every night in EB we have this from someone. Getting ridiculous.
That SoS zerg in EB last night :o. That beast was like 70 deep. You wiped the Bannok train once around AP with that monster of a zerg but we got you two times after that. Was lots of fun. EB has been great all this week. Love that there is the big scale battles but also plenty of smaller fights to be had.
That is the same Necro we on SBI have seen porting around in our BL’s.
Glad CD is able to have some shinning moments. Been a tough week for em so far with the loss in numbers. Great job CD. You all were ticking away at a good ppt’s last night.
Um.. our SBI zamboni was just crushing it last night in EB. XD
