In addition to my previous post, it’s horrible that the dungeon forum is being removed in favor of merging it with “Guild Wars 2 Discussion”! That is akin to merging the WvW discussion into the PvP forums because “It’s still PvP”. Dungeon tactics, dungeon speed clear opportunities for improvements, challenges, and the whole dungeon community at large is very, very distinct from the open world PvE group.
Please reconsider and keep the dungeon forum distinct!
Virtually all of us in the dungeon subforum echo this statement.
Please do reconsider.
+1 for this. Pretty please gaile!
So now you make a special forum rank for people who do what some of us are already doing for quite a while ? I don’t really get why. You should atleast reward them for their voluntary work they put in.
It’s obviously no job for me even though i am always browsing the forums.
Good luck to all who apply, hope the right ones get chosen.
I guess it’s safe to say the people who left are not coming back
It’s just a matter of time till we all become a figment of someones imagination.Here’s what I don’t get.
Its clear that Anet wants this to happen otherwise you’d see more sPvE content with equivalent rewards locked behind the success of completion.
Why continue to cling? its like clinging to a girl friend who doesn’t really want you, its just a slow drag into an unending ocean, might as well cut your losses and be with someone who would appreciate you more.
People would be a lot happier if they just made decisions for what’s better for them. Staying with a girlfriend who is just using you for your dollar and doesn’t really like you will just lead to an unhappy marriage or a breakup with you picking up the pieces.
k.
Let’s state it again then. You stopped caring about us long ago and you don’t even have the balls to come and tell us you’re not giving a duck anymore. Come here directly and tell us to go screw ourselves.
Feel free to join the discussion
http://www.dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/17605104-official-forums-refugee-thread/page/1
All refugees welcome.
Cheers mate, good move!
Yeah, there are a few with us who can still stand this kitten.
Meh, I can’t!
Nevets, they won’t accept me as a specialist.
a) I am not american.
b) I got too many infractions.
c) I have a hang for sarcasm and self irony.
d) I am a bad person.
Guys, lets simply create a thread with a super secret name to create our own sanctuary again..
Can’t believe this will happen..
Dungeons don’t get love. Never ever..
They just enjoy making more LS, Gemstore stuff, WvW and PvP kitten.
Well, think i like the PvP changes. And my griffon, i like griffons!
This will get closed soon, all interesting threads are getting closed after a while..
Hope you’re right ox!
I already spoke with Silf the other day as we (me, you and him) are in “the“ guild.
I can’t promise everyday runs together as I do dungeons with my guild mainly, but I can offer you to run with you whenever I am free, just whisper me!
I can play both, war and thief and got the knowledge in all dungeons and all fractals!
Still, now everyone will be able to port skip in teleport if only 1 player makes the actal skip..
- Added a new Teleport to Friend consumable as an uncommon drop. This consumable will take you directly to a party member in PvE.
LOL
… don’t know what to say to this …
Well, you don’t often get kickef from “LF2M cute chars with a crush on pandas, pretty please bring flowers. Tell me your favourite colour on join, no one gets kicked! xoxo“ LFG’s.
But you might get kicked for playing like a salad once you join a “Hardcur META EXP ZERKER only, Gearcheck or kick, 500000 AP, 14Legendaried, Hurr Durr“.
Both are exagerated examples but you get what I mean.
The issue I encountered often is that alot of pugs either don’t speak english very good or simply refuse to read.
Example: Exp only means in most cases experienced only, not explorable only. I often had to see players who might have thought of the 2nd version.
Also if you join a super hardcore LFG, people require that you do your job. If you refuse to, you’ll get kicked. Same goes for RL, if a cook doesn’t know how to cook. He won’t be a cook for long, will he?
Pushing this once again.
Yeah Spoj, l2p necro..
What a nice read!
10/10
That thread in the players helping players about greatsword users is so toxic.. There’s some dense phiw in there.
Can’t find it!
P2 is so much fun. Remember the time where I went for the record with friends!
Go for thief, or thief. Maybe thief!
Sorry i think im still hangovered.. Seriously, this ^
I have 2 question.
How it come that when I Pug with some of you (people from iV, rT, KING…) is it always on SE?
Has noob a secret code or something? Are you not allowed to say that you are the guild.from the official forum?
For some reason alot of my [iV] guys love SE. They simply do and Miku is their king!
Add meeeh.
Cheers for that Wethospu!
Well, I still hope it was simply a missclick or so. Since I did not get any message for why my thread got locked..
This is sooo weird..
Another thing is that i get infractions for telling someome to not blame Anet for bad behavior of a player..
Odd for that thread to be closed and not the other. Maybe the mod miss clicked and locked the wrong one? x)
Ye, I don’t really get it..
Good thing that threads get closed for no reason..
Cheers Ranael.
Get rekt Lindy! :c
Wuups sorreyh.
Has happened to me once. We redid it and it worked normally!
Weird bug.
May I ask you why you are doing that then ?
I’d also like to know names but that would cause drama so I better not ask for ’em.
You should really make a “Literary discussion thread“ swifty!
:o The dawn of a new era!
Eh but it’s 4am and I should be sleeping
Weirdo timezone ’murica is. Well make it tomorrow then, I would fancy a read aswell as a few posts!
You should really make a “Literary discussion thread“ swifty!
Except the same boring jokes and elitist-jabbering which we already now have heard 100 times I can’t really figure out what’s the sense of this thread even after reading this text the 3rd time :/
At one time it was funny to make jokes about uninformed players but meanwhile you can plainly read out the haughtiness which is just awkward.
Ok sir.
Let me explain it to you in a way even you understand!
The sense of this thread is to explain more casual players how I and some friends think about this game. It should just be a reminder about how annoying it is to read a thread over the same kitten topic every second day. (example → I got kicked from AC)
Another intention i had when i made this post is that I want casuals to try to look at this game from the other side of the coin.
Also maybe opening minds by once again telling them what you “mega pro“ player find pretty obvious. Explaining them why their threads get commented on sarcastic ways by some of us.
Simply trying to show once again that not all of us are the evil guys they meet so often in this game!
Hope you got it now. If not, also fine Downstate Wizard!
I have no idea what this 12345 thread was about but it’s pretty good now.
PS- im playing another game and having a pretty good time in the dungeons there. Hoping for new dungeons in this game soon T_T
It was about making boon sharing range infinite in instances so ranging still got party buffs while in complete safety.
Oh god. Have we added this one to the bingo board yet?
Don’t think so!
I agree with you Silmar. If i use the LFG tool i always put in requirements, but I don’t join groups and force my tacrics/builds/gear up to them. Never ever.
kitten cheezy, you won..
:D
Why was the old thread closed? I bet it was because of these toxic elitists who already start posting in this one.
I’m looking at you Grimm!
Fight me IRL mate!
Putting an AP requirement into LFG’s is kittened in my opinion!
While I agree with most of what you say I do feel you’re approaching it all in the wrong way.
All my characters are Zerker too. I am one of those people who would love to play a tank or healer but I do understand meta and I understand it won’t work in gw2 so I just play meta instead.
The problem is however, you guys (as in, you ‘elitists’, i really don’t want to call you that as it has a negative connotation to it and I don’t want to insult people) think you represent a majority of gw2 players. You think it’s all the ragers and noobs here on the forums that are in the wrong. And yes, they are in the wrong, but THEY are the majority. Not you. And one of the most ancient rules in the history of mankind is: Majority rules. Even if you are right and they are wrong. The people who do speedclears or any type of ‘hardcore’ pve in this game most likely represent less than 1% of all players. Who do you think Anet is going to appease if changes were ever to be made? (Not that they will anytime soon since there is no focus on Dungeons and PvE at the moment from the developers)
Again, you are right for the most part. In order to make tanks and healers ‘viable’ they must change/create new encounters. I’m just saying that they won’t. The will instead change systems. Ferocity nerf is proof of this. In knowning they will look towards system changes before redesigning the content and encounters from the ground up, I’d express my opinion on how I’d like to see that being worked out cuz at least then, we as players have some control over how the ‘new system’ will look like. If you keep hammering on ‘design better encounters’ you will miss opportunities to give input on system design changes. Cuz they really won’t change aggro mechanics, Boss AI, and add in raid-type (aka WoW) mechanics because it a) costs more money than something like a ferocity nerf b) costs alot more effort, time and manpower which they don’t have or are unwilling to allocate and c) the vast vast vast majority of this game is super duper casual and will most likely not understand or be able to ever execute these things. It’s not in their best interest money-wise to make these changes. I instead see them trying to close the gap between clerics and zerk by making more system changes.
You are right in the second part. But i think most of us know that we aren’t the majority. And unfortunately do I agree that we won’t find open ears that easily. But I can still hope.
Too many awesome players left this game already because a) the lack of new content other than LS and b) because of the facts you mentioned above.
I don’t mind elitists. They usually leave me alone, because I leave them alone: I don’t join “Meta only” LFG-groups, because I have 2 trait points allotted differently from the meta build on gw2dungeons, for example.
What I do mind is elitists joining a pug group, for no other reason, it seems, than to feel better about themselves and look down on casual players. I have to say I only encountered one such incident myself.
A member of a well established speed clear guild was in the pug group (I won’t name the guild, not my intention to put entire guilds in a bad light) for AC p1 or 3. The person who put up the lfg asked for an ele only, because for casual pugs, icebow 4 helps a lot with them burrows. Said speed clear member joined us and immediately targetted the person who put up the lfg and started flaming “omg, you elitist, why ele only??”; in caps and not as nicely worded. I thought it was an attempt at humor, as I recognized their guild tag and know how you guys need to deal with anti-elitism every day in this forum. So I didn’t pay too much attention to it. After spider queen, he would skip the champ graveling and wait at Kholer, while every other pug run I had been in would kill that group of foes. He wouldn’t come help us kill and was complaining about how slow we were. At Kholer, people weren’t blasting his fire fields, which made him say “blasts, blasts, blasts, you casuals”. All his chat was in caps throughout this. After Kholer, I apologized for being casual, wished them a good run and left the party.
I know it was one individual, but every time I see the guild tag in my group, I am reminded of this experience and I ready myself for a possible bad attitude elitist. I admit though that most other members from this guild that I have encountered, turned out to be nice people.
TL;DR
Just wanna point out that there are at least a couple of rotten apples in your speed clear community that for some reason join pugs, while it clearly isn’t the play style for them (unless they deliberately join just to enjoy making fun of “casual pug scrubs” and feeling superior, which is even worse). And by doing so making a bad name for your entire community.And just to end on a friendly note, thanks to all you “elitists” that contributed to gw2dungeons. It’s an awesome site and I often refer my even more “casualer” than me guildies to it, whenever they ask me how to gear/trait their character for dungeons/fractals^^
I’m sorry that you had to meet such a person! The way this sounds to me is that this guy is a person I would refuse to play with aswell.
Nevertheless are there rotten apples on both sides.
And as you said, a lot of hardcore players put much effort into projects to help the community which is pretty awesome in my opinion!
Op, you reminded me on some guy (maybe it was you who knows) in lvl 40 fractals. Since beginning he politely but in a f-u-are-u-mad-bro way asking for might. Every 3 seconds. Then i realised i left my traits from wvw by accident. But this guy… literally every 3 seconds: ele gimme might, ele wheres mi might mate, ele why are you not giving might? You know what ele, set your taits this and that so you can give might.
That kittened me and i did not change my build. I stayed 0 0 2 6 6
now nobody gets might only auras. Nobody.
You remind me of that guy. Bossing people around, BUT if you put a smile on the end of it you think people wouldn’t notice that you are being pushy elitist kitty?
Once i got a advice from guildie, he is unusually calm, while i raged at other guildie for using this weapon instead that, and this build and not that , he just said:
Just let him play whatever he wants. If he likes it, leave him alone. Let him enjoy the game. And since then, game has been a bliss.
You continue with your elitism, and let others play as they like.
You can find others elitist, join hands and dance in circles around zerk greatsword and pray to the hundread blades and might gods.
Relax mate and enjoy the game. Don’t worry about gear and builds that others use just enjoy it.
Not sure if you are trolling or not. When did i try to push people into the meta ? Where have I been a pushing elitist kitty ? Where did I tell people how to play the game ? Heck, did you even read my post ?
To the other part, I don’t pug fractals or dungeons anymore so it wasn’t me.
But cheers for comparing me!
Don’t tell the dungeonforum gets overtaken by filthy casuals. :o
Oh wait, it already is..Well since you started posting, yeh o/
Too funny mate, 10/10!
Yes Rasimir, you are right.
But as I wrote above, is no one forcing any meta to new people. Nor is anyone forcing them to go melee or to skip trashmobs.I know, but that wasn’t my point. My point was: If the posts are starting to get to you and intrude on your fun, think twice about what arguments you get yourself into. It’s only worth to post/argue/give advice/whatever if it doesn’t ruin your own mood. There’s people that will never “see the light”, that live with a totally different view of the world in general (and the game in particular) than yours. Go ahead and try to show them your way, but be wary when the cost of trying to show them your truth is getting too high for you.
Well, my standpoint on that matter is that if someone comes to the forums with a flawed opinion and noone is there to show him that he’s wrong, then he will think he’s right. He will keep talking about that and more and more people will start to believe him until ANet thinks he represents a majority.
See above. As long as you’re ok with it showing people what you believe to be the right way is good. It’s when the “oposition” is starting to intrude on your fun in the game that you need to carefully decide which battle to fight and which to leave to others.
I know mate, it’s getting frustrating but don’t worry, I will take a break before I start hitting a wall with my head!
Don’t tell the dungeonforum gets overtaken by filthy casuals. :o
Oh wait, it already is..