Not everyone has the ability to get something when the only way to get it is random chance.
…. It was pure chance.
Your example is utter trash as well. Why? Because I guarantee you that you got baseball cards from that pack. Maybe you didn’t get the card you wanted, but in every single pack of cards you did in fact get cards. There was no guarantee of getting a skin, that you wanted or otherwise, therefore there is no comparison.
Kal,
You obviously don’t understand my example which was perfect, given the RNG aspect of the weapon skin. Not everyone WILL get the rare rookie card they want just like not everyone will get a skin. It is pure chance…thank you for stating that. That was the point of my example! I gurantee you got other items frome every single chest you openned. However, the chance to get a skin out of the chest was less than than other items. Just like the chance to get a “rookie card” is a lot less than the other cards.
This is what inflates the price of the card, and it is done intentionally. I believe Anet also intended this by making the weapon skin chest drop rate rare. Im sorry but I dont see them re-releasing it. The weapon skin IS a rookie card in that aspect….you had a chance to get it last year and only last year, unless you decide to fork over some gold and pay for it on the TP.
If I am wrong great, I too will be trying to get the skins this year, but if they were in fact a 1 time thing, I am fine with that given the above real world example….I understand that aspect of MMOs and RPGs. I missed out, or was not lucky. Perhaps my luck will come this year with one of the events. I’m still anxiously waiting for my first ascended chest drop.
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Not sure how you think all gold came from someone elses real money….A lot of gold was originally made by selling blues/greens to merchant and doing dungeon runs with gold find gear/consumables on. Tequatl runs give me 1g per event.
Say you can trade 4gold for 100 gems, that is 32gold for 800gems. I know a lot of people that spend that kind of money on a single weapon or a couple of armor pieces. That is also character (not account) bound. Here is a unique item that looks cool and is great to put on your farming character (my thief). You never have to purchase another orrichalcum sickle again! It practically pays for itself in omnomberries.
You all must be in the minority, because ~50% of the people I see farming with me in orr have one or more of the special effects scythe, sickle, or axe. If they were not selling well, I guarentee you that Anet would have lowered the prices on these items. As long as they see the demand, those prices will stay. However, for those willing to wait/gamble, you can still get items like this for 600gems during special sales.
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Mounts are unnessary if you just want to get from point A to point B. Waypoints are faster, plus you get run boosters that give you an additional 33% speed or 25% speed boost 100% of the time…via runes, or skills/traits.
Prices to waypoint are adjust to your level. At level 80, 2-3silver is dirt cheap however you can still waypoint to LA for free via WvW if you want. On top of all this you can craft portals that allow you to waypoint from anywhere you are for FREEEEEE….yeah the crafting materials for this kinda sucks. I personally think more Tequatl type jump pads would rock!
Now if you just want to ride in something cause it’s cool. I vote Charr Cars! They have the buggys as you get into Orr. A mount where you can drive your whole party and have one turret gunner. LOL
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Tequatl is worth it now (after the patch). I have seen lots of people getting ascended chests, exotics, and minis. I personally got a mini Tequatl the other night and an exotic sword.
I sold all my key segments for 30s at the time…except for a set that I made for the achievement.
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You all have 2 weeks to get the achievement done for every Living Story. You can get 6 of them done in one sitting without trying. This leaves the last 4. Those were to participate (not win) a dragon event. That is 4 days out of 14. If you all really wanted this, get it done asap. If you have other excuses like work, internet, etc….you can’t blame Anet. If you did not have the time, you did not have the time. Everyone knows how long they have with the living story achievements. I would never wait that long for a reward I wanted, and if real world got in the way, I would not place the blame on Anet.
The ONLY excuse you all can use is that Tequatl did not show up at all last night due to a glitch, but it looks like the monthlies had already reset by then.
Have..you honestly not been reading these threads? People are angry because if they didn’t have time or the ability to get the last daily until last night, they were absolutely cheated of it, because ANet’s devs chose to not give one more daily DESPITE it still being September across much of their playerbase. Not everyone has a schedule that allows them to play the game often and more than a few people on here had to wait until last night for that final daily to pop.
Not providing one last daily before new patch content THE FOLLOWING DAY cheats your players and is just plain sloppy.
Of course I read the threads, which is why I answered the way I did. If you all really wanted this daily, get it out of the way asap….simple as that. There are some I push for right away and others, I care less about that I procrastinate on.
If real world got in the way and you could only make it the last 3 days, you missed out…Im sorry, that is just how life goes sometimes….Like you said, not everyone has a schedule that allows them to play the game as often as they want, but that does not make it Anet’s fault. To say you were cheated out of it is a little harsh. It’s not like they did anything intentially to take the achievement away from you.
Once the server reset, it was counting it as the next day because the monthly achievements also reset. The server was calling it 01Oct13 so technically it was Tuesday (somewhere). If however, it was not consider 01Oct13, you all would have a very strong case since Tequatl was glitched after the reset and did not spawn at all. Who know,s maybe Anet will be extremely gracious about it, but personally after hearing harsh words like “cheated” and “sloppy”, I would leave it as is and move on….ie, that is not how one pleads their case.
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You all have 2 weeks to get the achievement done for every Living Story. You can get 6 of them done in one sitting without trying. This leaves the last 4. Those were to participate (not win) a dragon event. That is 4 days out of 14. If you all really wanted this, get it done asap. If you have other excuses like work, internet, etc….you can’t blame Anet. If you did not have the time, you did not have the time. Everyone knows how long they have with the living story achievements. I would never wait that long for a reward I wanted, and if real world got in the way, I would not place the blame on Anet.
The ONLY excuse you all can use is that Tequatl did not show up at all last night due to a glitch, but it looks like the monthlies had already reset by then.
I’ve gotten 9 kills out of 11 attempts thanks to this guild. I have a feeling that we will all remain in this guild due to future content of the same nature…ie they do plan on making other world bosses more challenging.
What sets this guild apart from others is that is it cross server. They have collected a bunch of players that are do’ers. This is the handful of players willing to coordinate, get on guild chat, upgrade/change weapons, traits, and skills on the fly. Bring new ideas to the table…etc. The whiners and complainers are not in this guild, people who find some content to be “too much of a hassle” are not in this guild, people who don’t frequent the forums to better their builds will not even find this guild.
The average guild typically has 3-4 of these go-getter type of players and the rest are somewhere in between or worse. This guild is almost all of the first type IMO. Makes for excellent instances and overflow content. I’d love to do some fractals and the new dungeon path this Tuesday with you all. It is just too bad we cant do guild missions together!
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Guild Wars 1 and earlier added content in this game offered a lot for casual gamers. All titles were eventually obtainable. Arenanet seems to have gone down a different road now with this Tequatl redesign in favor of content requiring high numbers of players and coordination to complete.
GW2 offers a lot of casual content, and if you recall GW1 also had areas for non-casual player in the form of Underworld, Fissure of Woe, The Deep, Urgoz Warren, and the Tomb of the Primeval Kings, to name a few. These took a coordinated group effort and specific builds/weapons to accomplish. Old GW1 players and other “non-casual” players still look for this kind of content and now they have it with the new Tequatl.
It is not required to do, and the rewards are nothing special so if you don’t think it is for you…don’t do it. Armor and weapon gear is not as important if you know what you are doing and play smart, but take the time to bring skills that help the group not just yourself and change traits as needed…ie remove/lower points in precision and crit for now and add toughness and vitality (fast, cheap, and easy to do).
For the other person complaining, you can get dragonite fragments from any other world boss and WvW. To me a “casual” player is not worried about dragonite fragments needed to reach 500 in crafting though.
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(For those wondering, assume the minimum of 80 players for the event. Split them in half, forty going for the dragon and forty sticking by the turrets. Forty broken down into 5 man squads is 8, +2 to compensate for trolls/afk.)
Just a quick comment on your above comment about turrets and mobs. This is way too many for turret defense. Normally you want about 10-15 people on turret defense tops…usually 10 on the north side (3 turrets) and 10 defending the south side (3 turrets). By having too many people there you make the mobs worse. Now you have the potential to spawn champs. By lowering the amount defending turrets, you lower the mobs, and free up more players to attack Teq directly.
I do however, agree that there should be about 8 turrets not 6, or make it so that turrets cannot be filled until you here “There’s something in the water”…at which time the turrets open up. This prevents afkers and gives some leeway to noob gunners. However with a good turret group, you can keep his armor buff down to around around 4 the whole time. No risk of him ever getting to 20 I’ve been able to take Teq down 9 out of 11 times since joining an organized group and there are only 2 die hard basics to success:
1.) Good turret gunners. Keep teq’s armor down, cleanse the mobs, and spam skill 1 during the stun phase.
2.) People who can actually dodge into waves or jump onto them as needed! This is more important than the armor type/runes you have. You can actually sit there and melee the whole time if you know what to look for with his wave attack and realize that he always does 2 back to back.
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https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/tequatl/Tequatl-Terror-Squad-3-SLAY-THE-BEAST
Go there, add your name, accept the guild invite tonight, and get a kill. It is that easy. I have done the Tequatl event 7 times with this guild. Our group was successful all 7 times.
What is the bigger hassle?
1.) Waiting around for over a week and not getting anything done. Not getting into the main servers and even when you do, chances are they fail…..or
2.) Join a guild that was made to take down Teq (TTS), that you can sign up for here in the forum, and getting it done 2-3 times that same night?! You never have to leave your server, and since you can be a member of up to 5 guilds, you probably don’t have to drop a guild. Just rep, type in guild chat, and you will get a party invite, then just taxi on over to one of the 2 overflow servers and get it done!
….I joined 2 days ago. I played the event 5 times. ALL 5 were successful!
They are both a hassle. There should be a third option.
Yeah option 3, just don’t do it.
Seriously though, if you consider option 2 a hassle…. and if this is for something you really want to accomplish, then I’m afraid to see how you handle real life situations. People are providing you with options and it sounds like you are just to lazy to try them. You want to be able to just pop in at the last minute and have the chest handed to you. Then you come on the forum and just complain about how bad you have it, rather than taking charge of the situation and making Tequatl your kitten.
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Join one of the TTS guilds. We look for empty overflows. I was around for 5 Tequatl runs last night….4 of them were successful, all of them were in overflows. At server reset we made an overflow 1 and overflow 2 group. We split the guilds and did Teq at the same time and both teams beat him (although group 2 was faster)…just some friendly competition.
I then did him 2 more times that night. Again two were simultaneously going on in an overflow 1 and 2. The benefit to overflows is that the turrets are usually empty or at least not filled with someone that is away from keyboard. In the main server, you never know.
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Dude, you have 2 weeks (or more) to try…it just came out. Patience grasshopper, patience.
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According to one of the dev videos, the key is to not let the stack get up to 20. Once at 20 he makes a bone wall and now is invulnerable until the wall is destroyed. Teams will get better at keeping the stacks down and using the turrets as needed. Other players need to come back and defend the turrets now. There is no need for some players to even hit Teq. If they do the other things needed to get the event accomplished they still get the reward.
I highly doubt exotic gear will make that much difference to the overall success…maybe shave off a min from the total…if that?! And who does not have exotics now that everyone is crafting these to get to 500?
Plus all the good players don’t typically get on until server reset. LOL You guys are playing with the B team.
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I read page 1 so forgive me it others have mentioned it. I just want to break down what happens during zerg fights and why people are complaining here.
1.) Conditions only go up to 25. With 80 people (according to Anet) being at this fight, the majority of conditon damage done to Tequatl will go to waste.
2.) People who spec out to do high condition damage will have their useful conditions replaced by other classes who are not spec’ed for condition, but still bring weapons/skills/trait that do conditions. These people should try their best to not apply conditions if possible. Temp fix: Highest condition damage should automatically replace lower ones?
3.) World bossess also don’t take crit damage, so part of the DPS builds go to waste. Kinda sucks for this build too, especially when they need crit hits to heal themselves via consumables. They are not doing 40k damage if they cannot crit.
4.) Some champs require a certain amount of damage in order to get the exotic bags. This favors the beserker builds and takes away from team work and support. This is very noticible during invasions
Anet should give “points” to those rezzing in the area and doing team support as the champ gets taken down.
5.) Anets current fix (for Tequatl) seems to be to spread out the zerg by defending multiple areas and having multiple targets to attack as well as as other jobs (turrets, battery…etc). I personally like this idea. This is more “alive” and realistic. People can still help out and feel useful where needed and hopefully they do not need to even lay a weapon on Tequatl to get the full gold award.
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What happens to MF on Celestial?
in Super Adventure Box: Back to School
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There’s no reason for them to sympathize with farmers who put their personal gold accumulation ahead of the community effort and community reward. Since however you started from view that only your wallet is important then you probably can’t appreciate that.
See you are assuming the “community” is trying to get the event done. But once you kill Scarlet once, what incentive is there to kill her again? You fail to realize that after a person has completed this achievement, the fun is zerging the event for champion bags. The zerg has become the “community” (the majority) and now it is you who is against the community. Assimilate and get with the program. 
When you win the event you typically only get one more bonus bag vs if you fail on the 3rd wave (which gives you 4 instead of 5 bags). However you were zerging so killed more champs than those not farming, so you ended up with ~40 or so exotic bags. Anet did this on purpose to help keep this event active and going strong for the full 2 weeks. In the mean time those who did not get the achievement can still often get it ~25% of the time or even more often from overflow maps where less farming/commanders are present.
There is not right or wrong way to enjoy this event other than trying to force others to play the way you “think” it should be played. I will play it on the fly. If I see too more people zerging with little chance of winning I will join the zerg and farm. If I see potential for a win, I will stop zerging and go for Scarlet’s minions. I have fun each time I map.
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For those who have not noticed….farmers tend to load on the main map, while completion tends to happen on the second or 3rd overflow. I always notice on the main map 6-7 commanders and they are always zerging for champs. On the overflows the number of commanders drops and people tend to go in smaller groups to where the “main” missions are. We completed one in 25min in an overflow with 0 commmanders once.
One thing I have found helpful if you need to complete the event is to party up with guild members. We go in casually so that we are not all in the same “instance”. We keep track of the first wave of Scarlet’s minions. Whoever’s map completes that portion first is the map we join. That map usually ends up completing the event.
In the end does it really matter once you have gotten the achievement once? Just join in and have fun killing stuff knowing that GW2 is very much alive with all these people playing in one map with several overflows on just one of the many servers! I do have one wish though:
OPTION to turn of characters names (not in party or guild) in map areas seperately from the name option when in towns.
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Great addition , alot more easy to manage salvages , instead of having 4-5 mystical salvage kits to fill up your bags you got the 1. Great Stuff
How is this convient?! A mystic salvage kit has 250 uses and better chance at rares and removing runes/sigils. It takes up 1 SLOT. This kit would take up 4 SLOTs for the same amount of use!! (1 for the kit and 3 stacks of copper)…do the math.
They need to make a merchant that follows you around for a week.
Oh… Wow. Do you somehow think that you mine copper? That’s copper ORE you mine. Copper as in the currency.
Ohh, yes I mis-interppeted that then. When they said copper fed, I read that as copper ores…and having to keep ores in your inventory. Thanks for the correction. Not that bad now… but still wish they were closer to mystic kit percentages. Account bound would be great if I could mail it to myself before character swapping though.
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Great addition , alot more easy to manage salvages , instead of having 4-5 mystical salvage kits to fill up your bags you got the 1. Great Stuff
How is this convient?! A mystic salvage kit has 250 uses and better chance at rares and removing runes/sigils. It takes up 1 SLOT. This kit would take up 4 SLOTs for the same amount of use!! (1 for the kit and 3 stacks of copper)…do the math. Plus you spent 800gems on this, I would almost spend it on merchant express and sell all my crap rather than salvage most of it, or extra bags.
They need to make a merchant that follows you around for a week. For now I will continue to make and use mystic kits to horde my ectos!
Not all new content is for everyone. Arenanet tries new things with all these minigames, and living world updates. If you don’t like some of it, skip it…..it’s OPTIONAL. Go do what you like. If you don’t like any of it, please just leave the game. The rest of the community won’t mind your absense, we promise. I’m happy with a smaller, tighter community. Please just don’t come back in 2 weeks and complain about the next update. It gets redundant. I personally loved the group arena at the bottom with all the bosses and loot!
If you have a legit concern that can be addressed, great…expecially bugs. That is helpful and constructive. The reason for the different currency is to reward the people who played that content. It makes some weapons/skins more “valuable”. To combine it all to one, kind of defeats that purpose, and I’m surprised that this is not obvious to everyone. I would like to go back and spend a different token on a jade weapon, but I also like the fact that those tokens were more rare. I feel more pride in sporting my jade weapon.
Also for those who did not realize this: Arenanet is making it ALOT easier to get a Legendary. They are doing almost everything but handing it to you. We get WvW badges from achievement chests. The new patch is an attempt to get players to play other dungeons so that everyone can get the tokens they need for their specific legendary. Dailys lets you get karma jugs, which lets you get Orrian chests, which give you shards and lodestones. Soon we will be able to craft the precursor. Laurels lets you get the mats you need or more shards. Karma is now account bound. All this makes it 10x easier to get a Lengendary now than before. You don’t need a large guild to do any of this….but if you do, you are allowed to join more than one guild! …and I would be happy to throw you an invite.
IGN- Kirikaze Shadowform
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You can see how many people are waiting on the NPC who you’ll need to talk to in order to get into the arena. Most fights will not actually take two minutes. The arena will admit the next person whenever someone wins or loses as well. Also there’s a lot of other stuff going on in the map. You guys should check it out before you jump to too many conclusions.
No offense, but you (Arenanet) kind of brings this on yourselves. When you only release tid bits of info, people are going to jump to conclusions. Either release more detail, or I favor releasing less. Just let us know what to expect with each new release without going into details or allowing Beta testers to post about it.
Most of these complaint threads should not even be posted until after the content is released (or would not) if some of these small details were to be left out prior to release.
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Too bad, I spent 10k honor badges on siege weapons yesterday to save space in my bank
same here i bought a ton of siege to make space for all the badges
You really had 40 stacks of badges (10k)?!
I don’t understand the sad face. What are you saving the badges for? Spend them on seige stuff if you do a lot of WvW or spend them on exotic weapons/armor if one of your toons is lacking. I personally bought the gift of battle, and then 2 exotic pistols which I then re-skinned with the celestial skin to pimp out my thief. If you wanted you could also salvage them for a chance at ectos.
Plus every 500 achievement points gets you more badges….so why horde more than ~500 at a time? Be happy that you got what you wanted/needed from the “free” badges that Anet did not even have to give us as ahievement rewards. You all keep acting like you’ve missed out on something, I don’t get it.
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