Guild Wars 2

SoR I think is probably one of the most pug friendly servers. On our public server everyone is welcome and plays quite well together.

On TS, most people don’t even look at guilds, it’s all about the server unity.

There are some exceptions, but overall I dig the no drama environment of SoR.

So basically what you’re all saying is: IoJ welcome to SoR, JQ/TC or SoS/SBI we’ll see you week after next.

Actually, in all seriousness now, I think I could dig IoJ’ers coming over. They been a good fight quite frankly when they’re out.

I see it as 3 category of servers.

Live, Growing, and Dying.

Basically we need the dying servers to xfer to the growing so that we have 6-9 competitive servers that are all capable for T1.

It’s not perfect, but the way Anet created their tiered WvW system, it’s the only way you are going to have enough servers capable for fighting for the top.

Having 24 servers, with majority of them empty or half empty in WvW doesn’t make sense. Stack the top 9 servers and go at it.

Yeah BG’s NA is decent, but your Euro/Aussie is pretty solid.

IoJ seems to have just fallen apart this match too now. Should just xfer the oceanics off IoJ to SoR and lets give BG a run for their money, I’m sure they’d love that too.

Scores are all still pretty close, don’t think anything is set yet.

Though it seems BG has overall better coverage through out the day again so it may win out.

Unless IoJ and SoR manage to gang up on BG for a significant period of time, may get the same results as last week.

IoJ doesn’t seem to have as much as SoR, and SoR doesn’t seem to have as much as BG.

Though the primetime fights, when all 3 sides have a presence, they are quite epic.

Unless there’s another shakeup of the servers, T1 and T2 are probably staying the same for a while.

People shouldn’t be using badges for power/tough/vitality ARMOR, you can buy all the pieces from Cursed Shore(mix and match all the vendors, then re-rune everything), the stats are the same. This uses karma.

You use your badge gear for the JEWELRY only, as that has the power/tough/vit that you can’t get else.

The zerg is mighty with BG 24/7. How did you guys get kicked from T1?

Just outplayed? Your coverage seems pretty good.

Back when queues were an issue that’s exactly what TW set out to do when we left the #1 server at the time(JQ) and transferred to SoR(#15), it went from #15 to #6 in 1 month time.

Right now SoR is #5, but we’ve hit a glass ceiling, the #1-4 servers above us all have better coverage, so while we are quite competitive during NA primetime, we just get crushed PPT wise during the rest of the time. Even then we are still holding the #5 spot and have been for the past 3 weeks, but for us to move any higher it’s going to require guilds who are looking to help build a community and server and want a challenge moving up the ranks to transfer to our server.

Interestingly enough, these threads do a lot to let people know who you are.

We’ve had conversations with at least 8 guilds since our post, the thing is, we are looking for long term quality guilds and individuals who want to be part of a solid community for the rest of their GW2 lives, not people who just want to come over because we are on our way up to tier1.

The server community and loyalty is pretty amazing, and we came from a #1 server back when SoR was ranked #15. The synergy of the current guilds and residents is something we haven’t seen. And it doesn’t have any of the drama we experienced on our old server.

Yes, our overnight is the weakest. If we know we have the coverage, you will have upgraded/sieged keeps/towers to start with. We are really good at working together.

Here is a link to another recruitment thread made for us by our opposing server just so you have an idea of what the SoR never give up mentality is about:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/75918-looking-for-a-new-home-try-sor/

The server really has true T1 potential, it just lacks coverage.

SoR-12,176, 320 ppt, SM
BG-12,103, 150 ppt
IoJ-10,111, 150 ppt

BG- 8688, 185 PPT
SoR- 7810, 345 PPT, SM
IoJ- 6611, 165 PPT

SoR has always had a solid NA primetime. BG BL has become fully blue everyday since Saturday during NA primetime. We just lose everything at 3am est because there’s no one on to defend.

What we need is Aussies/Asians/Euros.

But all in all, has been some fantastic fights. It’s been tons of fun, BG and IoJ are great opponents, nothing but respect.

Yeah, our NA crew is solid.

It’s everything else that needs help. But we do the best we can with what we have. The relentlessly positive attitude of the general player base really helps.

Elterzzz.4378:

curious to know who IoJ & SoR think is the more stronger world. Blackgate or Sea of Sorrows?

As far as coverage goes, I think SoS had better coverage.

As far as “skill” or “organization”, I’d say for sieging probably BG, for defending SoS. Open field, it’s probably a toss up.

It’s really difficult to assess the strength of your enemy when for a good 6-8 hours of the day, we have no presence and the PPT just gets skewed.

Once we get some more coverage over here on SoR, I think we’ll be able to gauge better. We have a good base of crazy stubborn people who seriously just don’t know the words “I give up”, so it’s a good start.

This server went from #15 to #5 in 1 month, so it’ll take time to build our coverage up.

I logged back in just for you Mias :P

BG- 130,113- 365ppt
SoR- 90,815 – 225ppt
IoJ- 63,411- 105pp

After playing on a great T1 server then moving to SoR back when it was a T5 server.

I have to say, SoR has a lot of heart. These guys get out there and fight everyday regardless of the score and regardless of the fact that we lose everything overnight and have to start over from scratch every afternoon.

I have to admit, I am personally impressed, it really is a die hard server. I cannot wait for when we have the coverage for the overnight, it’ll be interesting to see where we end up.

We’re really proud to be here, it has been an honor fighting with everyone on this server. Your stubbornness is contagious.

We are hopefully getting 3 medium sized Euro guilds.

Would be great to get more Asian and Aussie timezone players.

We have a solid server, just a coverage problem, great place to make your permanent home.

If there are any European/Oceanic guilds interested, feel free to send a PM here to any of the SoR guys to setup a meet and greet in the community TS.

Fantastic server. Great people.

Really just needs an overnight presence. Pretty solid server considering it’s in 5th place with very minimal Oceanic. Once it gets an overnight presence, I expect a T1 server easily.

Yeah great fights guys.

SoR just needs some more oceanics so we don’t bottom out overnight and have to start over the next day, but we aren’t doing bad considering.

The NA fights are amazing and pretty evenly matched between SoS and SoR.

Sadly, SoR does not yet have an oceanic presence. Once we do, we can keep the points through the night and it’ll be more of an even match.

As things stand right now, we pretty much lose everything overnight then have to get it all back again before prime-time. The 3am EST- 8am EST is the weakest for SoR right now.

It’s a blast though, been a lot of fun fighting PRX in Red BL.

That’s really too bad, honestly instead of fixing them so they can’t be exploited, just removing them is an ok temporary fix but they need to be back. Having a “mini-game” or objective in the Borderland maps was what made them fun. EB has SM, the BLs need something too.

Just do what DAoC did, it took 2 groups “to bring down the relic altar” so it can be picked up-the altar was just too powerful for anything less, do the same thing here so one or two people can’t hack the orb, make it so that the altar isn’t something destroyed but something turned and requires 10 people to stand around it to be destroyed.

As for the snowball effect when a team is under-manned, that is more the fault of a terrible out-manned buff than anything else.

A team that is losing can come back and has, the matches have already shown 50-80k comeback wins.

Kurthos.2354:

Indo.8629:

Hrmm, to be honest.

If SoS didn’t have an oceanic crew or if SoR actually had some oceanics/asianics, this match really wouldn’t be close at all.

NA Primetime SoR > SoS NA Primetime
Oceanic SoS > Oceanic SoR

Good match regardless though.

Lots of fun all around.

I don’t believe the SoS PPT income for the entire length of the match up correlates with your opinion.

Actually it does exactly that.

SoS has the high PPT during oceanic(post primetime) while SoR has it during pre-primetime/Primetime.

And if everything wasn’t upgraded overnight un-contested, SoS wouldn’t have the daytime PPT either. It just takes SoR the whole day to wittle down all the upgrades and fully supplied keeps/towers.

Which is why I said it. Besides Fri/Sat. Mon/Tues/Wed SoR has 3 BLs with no queue those 3 with 20-30 people running around in it.

Interesting match regardless.

Hrmm, to be honest.

If SoS didn’t have an oceanic crew or if SoR actually had some oceanics/asianics, this match really wouldn’t be close at all.

NA Primetime SoR > SoS NA Primetime
Oceanic SoS > Oceanic SoR

Good match regardless though.

Lots of fun all around.

The interesting thing is that SoR doesn’t have enough oceanics/asianics.

What you’re seeing as the heavy asianic/oceanic presence is the NAs staying up far later than they should.

We could use some asianic/oceanic guilds though if any are looking for a home :P.

Typically if you queue past 3/4am est on SoR you find half empty BLs, maybe 1 is queue’d at most.

Chidawg.6315:

@Indo. I think the NA players are pretty even matched. Remember before server reset we were well above +400 potential points last night. Then everyone saw candy corn and it was a lost cause.

I was more analyzing Fri and Sat nights. When everything was fresh, SoR had the advantage.

Yesterday and tonight are not good indicators as yesterday—SoS had fully upgraded and sieged keeps/towers— and tonight SoR will have the same. When it’s a 1v1(since CD is basically MIA), it’s difficult to see performance based on PPT simply because it’s much harder for the offensive team to take something from the defensive team when everything is fully maxed out.

Either way, that’s just my personal assessment on the match. I have been known to be wrong, /shrug.

But I stand by the statement that should SoR get some more Aussie/Asian guilds, it would become a very strong server.

From what it seems, SoS has the stronger Oceanic presence.

SoR has the stronger NA presence.

The problem comes in when SoR’s NA guys stay up and fight SoS’ oceanics. While SoS may have full borderlands across the board, and SoR is 50-75% or less, SoS oceanics seem a lot less organzied.

But when the SoR NA guys don’t stay up, the server is quite empty.

IF SoR was to pick up some more aussies and asianics, this server could probably be quite nasty.

SoR did some work !

FA needs to stay within 5-7k of TC to guarantee they both move down to t4 together.

Otherwise it’s going to be SoR/FA/DB- which is lopsided.

And CD/SoS/TC- which is also lopsided.

Ideally, I think everyone wants CD/SoS/SoR and TC/FA/DB.

FA needs to get to work!

Score update please.

Thank you for your kind words and welcoming attitude.

Just wanted to introduce myself. I’m the Tempest Wolves guild leader and one of our commanders.

We are looking forward to working with the SoR originals and help build on what you’ve already done.

Yes, we’re new to the server and it’s human nature to fear the unknown, and I know it seems like we are intruders in your home, but we are here to help make it better the best way we know how.

SoR has for the most part been most welcoming and we appreciate that, yes there has been a lot of negativity to our arrival but we are hoping once you give us a fair chance and run with us, you will appreciate what we can bring to the table.

As far as the facts of this matchup in particular, we came over Saturday morning/afternoon when SoR was about 26-7k down. Soon as we came over, we jumped into WvW and took the orb and all 3 keeps in Yak’s BL, then moved to EB and started the work on SM and everything there. While people may blame the turn around on us, we were only present in 2 of the borderlands on Saturday, so it wasn’t just us, it was a collective team effort on everyone’s part to bring a 30k deficit back, which is no easy feat.

And as for the running up of this score, it was never our intention to demoralize. But in fact, after we turned around the score, we saw that if we could maintain above 600PPT for at least 15 hours a day, we could go from 2nd place tier 5 to 3rd place tier 3 and we would be able to skip tier 4 completely. And it looks like it’s going to happen.

I’m excited to be in our new home and hopefully people realize we are sincere in our efforts and we are here for the long haul.

Look forward to working with everyone.