Guild Wars 2

Personally I like all the new changes.

Sieges are now alot more tactical than the old kitten the gate down style. When attacking/defending it is alot more vital to control and hold the supply camps and supply routes into a keep. Sure taking a T3 hills in a full frontal assault is now almost impossible but I’m sure other ways will present themselves.

Another positive I’ve noticed that as a low tier player it is much easier to get a foothold in an enemy borderland without sending your entire force there. Once you’ve got a keep you can defend it and hold off the enemy with a small enough number to give your main force a chance to do other things and still get back. For example there is a definite difference in server strength at EU prime time between AS and GH yet they managed to hold our bay for a fair few hours before we could get it back.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

The attitude in this thread is exactly why I will not play any PvP content unless absolutely necessary. PvP brings out the worst in online gamers.

Well the WvW community on Gunnars has shown me the best in online gamers that I’ve seen. Think that’s a pretty generalised statement.

Back in September I had 1 and a half PvE zones to complete and all of wvw so entered the borderlands for the first time since my mate had dragged me kicking and screaming as an uplevelled to show me what fun it could be (I died lots, it wasnt fun). I started wondering aimlessly around getting vistas and pois and then saw people were sieging the starter tower. I joined in to get the poi and had an alright time. 3 months later I realised I’d never actually finished those PvE zones because I had become so hooked on the wvw side of the game.

Now I rarely ever go into PVE. I feel bitter that without crafting the best way to level my alts is to drag myself through the tedious grind of heart quests in the starter zones until I can get enough utilities to make wvw karma training plausible.

In short, I’m grateful for world completion in wvw. Without it I’d probably never have given it a chance and would have given up with the game.

Also had some great fights against AS. Took bloody ages to get our Bay back off them, and then we managed to ninja their Garri. Great tenacity from AS meant we kept having to go abck north to defend and stopped us mounting a serious Bay assault. Finally get into Bay and get a cry for help from our BL. AS were there. Wipe them there but couldnt get the numbers back to AS garri to save that.

Great evenings fighting and thanks to AS

Looks like WSR have a decent night capping team, got us to 35ppt this morning.

Our lack of coverage overnight and in the early morning is a real problem for us but it’s a difficult situation…

On the one hand us losing 5 T3 keeps and SM overnight is not ideal and gets very expensive very quickly, but on the other hand our Primetime force is enough to compete with anyone at this level – we were pretty balanced against RoS when it was just NNF, VcY and RiOT in the evening. Getting numbers overnight and in the morning would mean total domination of this tier, and T7 once RoS leave. That’s no fun either. T7 being the pit it is would make it difficult to get out of too.

I can think of a couple now…

Eclipse.1567:

And GH speaking of not focus when they are camping AS BL since reset, the T3 and WP on our hill is just a random bonus, like your MM guild always here?

Well I haven’t played this morning but I can tell you that when I was on overnight we had 5 or so people in your bl running supply to get hills uograded. When you got the wall down (was still wooden with wp at this point) we called HT in from EB to help defend it then they went back to EB. We don’t have the nightcapping numbers to take and upgrade a keep on both bls.

It’s nothing personal, on reset we had three guild groups on WSR bl and more than a 20 minute queue there

Haha no chance. I’d much rather fight in T8 and leave you stuck in T7

muslumgurseks.4951:

Nice Blob GH is running in EB atm cheers guys you made the game less fun for the rest of the night.

It’s alright mate, instead of worrying about it just use it as an opportunity to learn, adapt and improve as a player

Haha Freyn is that 3 uplevelled rangers fighting a BNF ranger? Almost not worth complaining about

RoF were also the worst side in our tier as well.

I wish they’d pull their fingers out though

alkalone.5798:

We called XxX to help us to take back Hills. We were preparing for fight when you took it. We weren’t able to protect hills at this particular moment. And then, you slept on hills, to finnaly, die at bluevale after 1 hour of idiot fight . You said that we zerg at night ? We just play H24 thanks to some guilds like FRS.
And last things, every time we find a GH’s guild who plays without the zerg, SHE RUNS AWAY !
Remember that diying on the game, doesn’t make you die on the real life.
But, step by step, we are practicing, to handle your big blog on our own. I just think you will be on T8 next week

I find this post hilarious. A complete misunderstanding of the Gunnars community

1) How can you not understand why we were fighting in Vale?! We have no way of winning so why bother fighting for points when we can just have a laugh and enjoy ourselves. It’s like you think fighting over objectives and for any reason other than having fun is madness.
2) A lot of us actually hope we’ll be on T8 next week. You guys aren’t going to T6 for at least another week so we’ll enjoy some more balanced fights next week where we don’t need to “blob” to even have a chance of doing something wrt points.

Meh if a warrior wants to spec for dps in wvw let them imo. I certainly won’t be speccing into 30 Discipline any time soon.

I’ve never participated in a GvG but the videos I’ve seen all look meh. It seems so artificial, all stacking all your boons before running in.

Besides any guild on GH that enters a GvG with VcY will undoubtedly lose. Our guilds have no experience in that field, and the number of players available to you guys mean you’ll be able to perfectly balance your team to what you need, whereas our teams will be stuck with what they’ve got online.

Anyway had a great night in RoS bl. The fights at Hills ended up with huge skill lag which is a shame but the rest was brilliant fun. Special thanks to NOM and XxX from RoS and HON from Dz for some excellent fights

EDIT: Oh wow looks like I needed to refresh page before posting. First half of this looks very out of place :p

The majority of last weeks matchup wasn’t too bad. But then it was just VcY and RiOT in primetime and we could compete. They got alot of points during the day and the night thanks to the ex-Xaoc numbers boost they had over us hence the lead. Then at the end of the week they gained 4 more big guilds. Watch the scores for this week

Corran.4957:

Hmm. out of interest. Why has there been 2 GH threads about this recently? Enemy had a mass influx?

You were happy about KREW joining you recently and didnt make a thread about it breaking WvW. So why now? (yes i know KREW left you a little bit ago)

Aye at least 7 big/medium guilds to RoS.

Wrt KREW – We were happy, they were a great bunch of people who integrated nicely. They fought at night and it did imbalance the matchup at that point though, so we dominated in terms of points. However we still had great fights at all other times so the only way it “broke” the matchup was in terms of upgrades going overnight.

However now we’re in a situation where the game is rather unplayable for alot of us 24/7. We’re essentialy fighting a server who belongs in T4/5.

The Hunter.4516:

Because they dont have an easy match up anymore..

I do find this rather ironic coming from the person who transferred to Gunnars while we were winning our match against RoF and Dzag then joined VcY on RoS when we came up against one difficult week.

The majority of GH have seen the server go from T2 – T8 then T8 – T5 and now T5 back to T7. Trust me when I say we’re used to not winning easy matches

Nemesys.7251:

not after the bandwagoing of many guild,and this is how they seek their revenge after they die:/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjamdraWXk4

Haha that sounds like the AG I know. This is the server that created “Operation Triumph” a wvw night designed to bring out all their guilds at the same time and take over the whole map. Let’s just say there wasn’t much triumph.
It’s also the server that KISS transferred to “to teach GH a lesson”.

Though the main tag I saw there was FURY and they’ve been around on AG for ever afaik.

Caid.4932:

Well yeah it was 3 initially, I’m sure by the end of the week you’ll be able to name a few more. The mass migration has started.
We have a server guild we made for april fools day (which pretty much every wvw’er on the server joined) its pretty funny to see the number who change server. Kicking about 3 a day recently. All guys you wouldn’t notice from small guilds and stuff, so im sure theres many, many more joining who aren’t in guild groups.

Should check it again, would put money on a dozen or two being on RoS by now.

Haha such is the way of things. I’m actually now hoping RoS do get more guilds because it will take them up much faster.

Caliban.3176:

If that is what you think, sure.

Tbf you did completely miss the point afaic

Genev.2450:

Never said it was easy, I’m saying it’s possible though. A group of randoms wouldn’t be able to do it, but an organised guild which is used to working together and is on a voice com?
Yes, doable, with some effort and cooperation within the guild/group.

AFAIC if two organised and well built groups on voice comms come together but one is 15 man and the other is say 30, then the 30 man group should always come out on top.
And say it is doable. It’s certainly not going to happen like that and the 15 man group still has

Genev.2450:

And no, the 40man (or whatever size…. Seems it gets bigger every time a number is mentioned) wouldn’t leave the 15man group alone, and it shouldn’t do that, I’m saying that larger groups generally have different focus and playstyle than smaller groups, and smaller groups tend to be sneakier (due to their size) when capping things – even in the higher tiers, there’s ninja/stealth-capping, is it strange to imagine it happens here too?

But my point is the small groups for you are the large groups down here. Our 15-20 man teams don’t want to resort to doing the sneaky stuff they want to be involved in good 3way fights with even numbers. So coming in here and saying we’d all be better off with 3 or 4 big guilds smacks of arrogance or at best just sheer ignorance of the situation down here.

For example I’m a predominantly PvE, PvX guild. We have 1 wvw night a week where we can bring out 6-8 members. While I only play wvw the rest are mainly casual players so we’re not capable of taking on huge numbers by ourselves, but against RoF and Dzag we were more than capable of moving away from the main group for a while and doing our own thing. This just isn’t possible anymore and we decided to not run one last week and probably won’t this week, or the week after, or the week after that and so on until we’re no longer matched with RoS.

Now you guys can come in here and accuse of us of whining or what not and tell us to work on our tactics to beat you. But the FACTS are that for small guilds like mine, and a random PUG like me it is no longer playable in a tier where our kind belong. So while my posts may come across as whining to you, yours come across as attempts at self justification for your guilds making a mess of this tier for now what looks like at least 3 weeks.

Nemesys.7251:

gagi.4012:

, one good fight with nom + xxx on bay north cliff, we had our inventory full couple of times yay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkcEbuSHDFM

just a little taste of us

you talking about this cliff?8min 50.

just a little taste of our gameplay(just a fast video with what we seen yesterday)we dont blob,we play as guild we have max 20 member on but almost all the time we are less,see the game with our eyes see our number,see yours.
one week and this server change tier,max 3 weeks and is on tier 5 this is why we are here now.
We want play on tier 5max because on other tier there are guild of 30 40 member where they regroup if they die,where they blob almost 90% of the time they are logged in and after many month of that we transfered,and when the tier dont fit our gamestyle we change it again for sure.

sorry for my english is not my main language,we are italian guild with few who are not.

Having spent many weeks fighting AM, FR and FSP beware the 70 man groups!

Aurora Glade were a lot less zergy than any of those servers.

As it stands you guys have alot of work to do to make it out of this tier though so best get PvDing

Caid.4932:

Idd
The 3 guilds that have transferred to RoS will only push them up one or two tiers its not THAT big a deal.

If only it was just 3. Unfortunately I can think of at least 7 guilds off the top of my head (1 un c’d tbf)

Caid.4932:

Also annie means 20 v 20 v 20 in total. Not 20v20 fights. Currently we in gandara have about 20 insomniacs on a very good night.

Aye. We had an American guild that joined us for a couple of weeks. They could field roughly 20 people on a night, and they turned the map completely green for us for the duration of their stay. Unfortunately (they were lovely people and really integrated well) lag got too much for them so they moved back to NA. However despite them being a great addition for the community their presence did hurt the matchup a fair bit as I’m sure RoF and Dz can attest to.

A few nights after they left I stayed up until 4am and at one point I was one of 4 people keeping tabs on 3 borderlands. T7 just isn’t equipped for a 20 man night crew. We did have some great 5v5 fights though in the small hours.

AnnieGYG.6842:

Absolute Genius

It’s not just lower tiers that are feeling the strain, tier 4 used to be stable with 6 servers competeing and hoping in and out every 2 weeks for a fresh match-up. Now with bandwaggoning, Tier 4 looks like a mess with 60 man guilds transfering and the bandwagoners following, it’s like an ex Piken/SFR reunion in here.

Theres no space for 15-20 man guilds (that sleep at night) anymore as tier 4 becomes 60/70/80 man guild groups. Hence why XxX left the tier, and I am sure more will follow as the blob meta travels down the tiers. If you do meet a rare 15-20 man group and dare to win one encounter the entire zone falls on your head in a huge handholding blob. Blob your guilds up to counter it or lose. Losing breaks your puggie community, blobbing kills your guilds fun.

Gandara blobbed up all it’s guilds once and won tier 3, it’s a proven method that works, but simply no-one wants to play that way except WXP kittens who probably never contribute to the community anyways and play for points not for fun or challenge – 1 spam is only fun for about a day.

Is that server utopia around in any tiers where a puggies blob stays on EBG, the friendlies/voice comms/Infantry guys defend the home BL with pride beavering away in 5 man teams and the BLs are covered by lots of smaller man guilds engaging in 10 v 10 or 20 v 20 or even 30 v 30 all prime time, that sleeps at night and the 20 vs 20 vs 20 insomniacs and day crews have some fun? If anyone finds it please let me know – Gandara wants to be there.

T7 used to be like that. On Gunnars a lot of us define our community by our server pride and willingness to fight in 10/20 man groups while having a good core defending our BL.
Though if you’re looking for 20 v 20 v 20 at night not at all.

I think the main point here is to consider if you’re looking to transfer down to a lower tier is “What impact would we have on the matchup” Because there’s absolutely no point coming down if your transfer is going to massively skew the matchup one way or another. Then all you get is easy mode wins and eventually you end up back where you started.

Aneu.1748:

Genev.2450:

No, what would happen is the big guilds would fight each other, the small guilds would fight each other, and the smallguilds would likely also develop more tactics for when they face the big ones, which might even cause them to kill a large group.

I was running with some guys from GH (Holden Horde) one night in t1, was about 5 of us, and we bumped into a zerg. Not the same as an organised guild group, and it wasn’t a blob, jsut a zerg, but we managed to kill quite a few of them before we decided to run off simply because we were playing smart.

We were 5 and killed a large amount, of course it would be harder against an organised guild, but you would also be more (since you say the average size is 10-15, or somebody did at least), and likely these large guild groups would only be as big as a group as we fought then, on reset.

This is my exact thoughts. If a larger guild came onto GH right now my first port of call wouldn’t be the forums to cry or QQ about it. My first port of call would be to engage them in game to see what they are made of, if we wiped then I would look at what we could do better to improve ourselves and I would continue that until we had improved enough or adapted enough in order to counter them and their tactics.

Saying that some of the “better guilds” coming to opposing servers is destroying the game is actually very naive at best and down right stupid at worst.

Adapt, overcome, develop yourselves, you don’t need to get into huge blobs to do it…

Fine if it’s one or two guilds. We actually had a really good matchup against RoS when it was just VcY and RiOT. Certainly during Prime Time. 6 or 7 is a different story
though.

And saying that 10-15 can easily adapt, overcome and develop to beat 30-35 organised players is imo very naive at best and downright stupid at worst – as is bringing 6 or 7 new guilds onto a server in order to escape the higher tier blob fest. You’ll now be back there in no time – and what then? Transfer back down? What about the natives you leave completely out of their depth, and what about the next server you try and grace with your presence? Likewise so is the idea that the big guilds will stick to themselves. This is an objective based game – are you saying that the 40 man guild will leave the 15 man group to take Garrison out of fairness to their desires? No chance.

gagi.4012:

We have conflict of different standards here now, big higher tier based guilds see wvw much differently then people playing in lower tiers ex. Gunnar’s Hold

Ros guild u have ur issues and that is huge blobs 70+, lags…

We at other hand consider 30 to 40 man group a huge zerg and stupid name blob, we consider lag and fps drop when big organized group charrge and blind everything with spell effect cos we cant figure whats going on as we dont have much expirience in that fights….
We intentionaly play on lower populated server so now we have same issues u had in tier 1 just from different waypoint and same resaon why u all left ur precious tier one servers and communitys, (u must understand frustration)…. but we have no where to go and we have nothing to do now… im not whining and crying just a fact

Most of our guys cant play game they like atm so they write here to vent a bit, let them and dont comment much please…

As far as match goes xxx guild was surpise, 40+ VcY we saw made us instanty change map…. as long as im commander of our puggys <3 ill tell them not to fight 40+ vcy group, its stupid and pointless for us… Group with me decided we try having fun at ros bl and we had great time, some wins some losses, nice clashes with nom guild, one good fight with nom + xxx on bay north cliff, we had our inventory full couple of times yay it was nice to see xxx in action from far watched their clips once to learn some tricks, very impressive group…. tryed to lure them in fight with us but they didnt attacked us
I doubt im gonna be having much playtime this week cos i want balanced matchup dont enjoy been dominant or trashed side, hated when we had many new guilds on GH when we stomped others few months ago, hate it now, so i hope ros guys dont get tooo bored fighting doors would be shame.

And also to dex and goa u r just small guilds on big server now and ur influence of final score is so small, so not much need to boost much and tell people from our server to shut up, go flip some camps and use some trebs and carry some supply.

This hits the nail on the head for me, and it’s not whining it’s stating a fact.

We neither have the guilds nor the desire to fight you guys in 40 vs 40, as Peter from RiOT can attest to when he came to scout GH. I specifically mentioned to him on voice that we as a server are very resentful of fighting in a big group. We have a lot of medium sized guilds that like to do their own thing and “blobbing” actively goes against what we are trying to get from this game.

So while I won’t be “giving up” this week, I highly doubt the Surmia guilds will get the good fights they apparently crave because I don’t think we’ll be fighting your zergs. If you bring a huge force to our bl you can have lots of fun PvDing it all down because we’ll be somewhere else – probably fighting Dzag who we know always give us a good fight.

My main worry is that Surmia won’t get enough points to get out this week. I sincerely hope you do, but if you don’t then at least we’ll be securing a better week in T8. Genuinely am a bit jealous of RoF atm.

Sird.4536:

If the lower servers had ‘big’ guilds then why all this whinging.

He is saying if guilds spread out it will make WvW more competitive but atm there is noway to coordinate that.

Fair enough they are much bigger – I took it in terms of quality and not size – but the ideology is still highly flawed. If every server had 3-4 big guilds it would kill off any impact the smaller guilds could have in open field fighting meaning, as we’ve seen in our current matchup, those guilds have to combine forces just to match the numbers they face. This has then led to ridiculous QQ of blobbing.

The arrogance stems from the idea that the players who play in these tiers and in these guilds want to fight in big 40 vs 40 + battles, and that that way is the best way for everyone. If we wanted it, we’d go make it happen.

But anyway, this is becoming too much of a theme across multi threads so I’m going to stop

Sird.4536:

Jimmy JimBob.2801:

MiLkZz.4789:

I dissagree, SFR and Deso are falling apart because of massive blobbing and skill lag. These 2 servers had by far the largest amount of skilled guilds. I would love to see them spread out (which they are doing) to lower servers to boost the entire WvW quality and boost the entire WvW competition.

If every server has atleast 3-4 big strong guilds, WvW ladder would be quite interesting.

ps.: what you are saying ain’t our intent. We don’t want to go higher than tier 5.

The arrogance of this post is astounding.

Firstly there are plenty of quality small to medium WvW in the lower tiers. I’d like to see how your SFR and Deso guilds came out in 3v3, 5v5 or even a 10v10 without your huge amounts of Boon stacking and condition removal spamming.
Secondly if those guilds wanted high tier gameplay against the big high tier guilds…. they’d move to the higher tiers. There’s nothing worse than some arrogant guild come down into a low tier server and claim they’re here “to save the server”, or “teach us how to play wvw right”…

Erm no thanks. Go home.

Please read his post again.

He is not saying all the ‘top’ guilds are in T1 but the majority of them.
Secondly he never said anything about these guilds teaching lower servers how to do WvW.

People read what they want these days.

To me “If every server had 3-4 big strong guilds” implies he doesn’t think the lower servers have them.
Secondly my quotes are what I’ve heard from certain transferring guilds into my tier (not all tbf) and is my experience of the attitude a big guild brings when it comes into the lower tiers. The main point of that paragraph in reference to the quote was the first sentence

Mizu.9387:

I would love WvW to work like a league. Sure, you’ll face some overwhelming force at times and roflstomp other servers, but you don’t need everyone to cluster into a specific tier in order to face competent opposition. I would happily switch to Vabbi if I knew, that once in a while, I got to fight a good guild or two. It would also take some pressure off the higher tiers. At the moment its a constant coverage battle, where guilds pull 15 hour shifts and it’s exhausting. Once you finally win, it all resets and start over, without so much as an hour to breathe out.
A more calm match-up once every few weeks would be welcome I think.
Now I know that some want balanced match-ups, but I can’t help but feel that it is doing more harm then good with the current system.

That would be terrible imo. Could you imagine Vabbi versus Vizunah? What an awful prospect that would be.
If you don’t want to pull 15 hour shifts then don’t, it’s simple.Believe it or not there’s more to life than winning a WvW matchup.

The most important thing for me is this game is about fun. Don’t play for points just play for the epic fights and sieges you can get when the numbers are even. And on this note I don’t feel transfers are necessarily a bad thing. The problem only comes when guilds move on mass. Especially in the lower tiers where 1 guid transfer is enough to hold a bl down by themselves.

Put it this way: Gh had one big guild join them – Xaoc at the turn of the year and it was enough to take us from T8 to winning in T5 before half of the transfers left.

MiLkZz.4789:

I dissagree, SFR and Deso are falling apart because of massive blobbing and skill lag. These 2 servers had by far the largest amount of skilled guilds. I would love to see them spread out (which they are doing) to lower servers to boost the entire WvW quality and boost the entire WvW competition.

If every server has atleast 3-4 big strong guilds, WvW ladder would be quite interesting.

ps.: what you are saying ain’t our intent. We don’t want to go higher than tier 5.

The arrogance of this post is astounding.

Firstly there are plenty of quality small to medium WvW in the lower tiers. I’d like to see how your SFR and Deso guilds came out in 3v3, 5v5 or even a 10v10 without your huge amounts of Boon stacking and condition removal spamming.
Secondly if those guilds wanted high tier gameplay against the big high tier guilds…. they’d move to the higher tiers. There’s nothing worse than some arrogant guild come down into a low tier server and claim they’re here “to save the server”, or “teach us how to play wvw right”…

Erm no thanks. Go home.

The sad thing is RoS are still 110 rating points behind DL. They’ll need to really stomp both servers to move up, and if they don’t – then whichever unlucky server isn’t relegated to T8 and RoF will have to do it allover again.

Promises to be a fun matchup!!

If a server wants to defend hills with everything they’ve got send a small force to build some Golems and PvD the rest of the map.

Yes Hills is hard to take when it’s well defended but that’s the point of a siege isn’t it?

ThomasKreshant.6572:

judge.8754:

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As for Gunnars, we’ll be back! :P (and good luck on next week)

It might take a couple weeks as I could see us dropping down ourselves next week.

RoS will probably have tiered up so maybe we can get RoF vs GH vs DZ again.

As the Americans went back to the US and FIRE have jumped ship it will be like a replay from the first few days of that original match up we had with all three servers being almost exactly equal points wise with what 1 or 2 k point spread between us it should be great fun as it was very evenly matched.

With RoS likely to go up one of DL, UW or MS have to come down though so it’s more likely to be 2 of Dzag, RoF and GH fighting a slightly bigger T6 server on rotation.

And as we’ve found out the points difference between T6 and T7 means that unless you really do some stomping it’s very difficult to chip away at the Delta

Let’s be reasonable. There probably wasn’t 40 people combined in Garrison. It was a good fight and I think we had a slight numbers advantage. After that though Dzag disappeared.

Stuck around with 5 or so others and got some good fights against a similar number of Dzag and Rof. The 3 way at Garrison watergate a particular highlight – running up the stairs to kill Dzag then back down to kill RoF. A shame RoF kept running away though would have given us a better run for our money had they stood their ground.

Had a great day in Dzag – the fights in hills lords room were amazing. And thanks for the loot bags the two times you got the wall down from Star trebs. I was one of us on the 4 superior acs, 2 normal acs and 2 ballistas trained on that breach. You never really stood a chance!

Aralon.7501:

Growltiger.3450:

Aralon.7501:

I had a lot of fun at bay (GH border) this evening, we wiped the GH zerg twice. Good defence at hills!

@KISS
When we (GoT) teleported in your group at bay, we didnt expect to wipe you. It was fun!

What the heck are you talking about GH zerg???

You do know we’ve been elsewhere this evening as all our turncoat bauble seeking guilds on AG have been sieging Hills!

We did send a couple of 4 or 5 man squads over there but that was it!
kitten what an exhausting night. This week is going to be hard graft!

Bay got attacked twice by a 20+ zerg. I saw Xaoc and some other guilds.

@Teutoni
No, GoT didnt spent a lot of time in hills, but I’m not too sure, was roaming in a strike squad.
Never seen CHvc at bay, only Xaoc and an other large guild, cant remember the name.

Yeh it was a Xaoc and SoJ group I think, I was there but we weren’t that many. I think about 15

Culling and lag has been a real problem for me. Our golem rush on AG bay so nearly came off before the FURY zerg appeared. I did have fun running around from the sweepers after though.

Well we’l be in our BL defending against anyone up to the challenge

Yeh keep FS in that tier so we dont have to fight a supposedly empty Blacktide

Yeh I agree with ChapDev. Why spec/gear into Precision when you can trait so your crit chance is high with position and/or stealth. I chose Valkyrie gear over beserker for that reason.

The signet that fully recharges your endurance is brilliant too if you mess things up. Gives you four evades to get away.

Here’s to ending it on a real high tonight

Thanks to all RoF and WsR for the good fights

Ventus.9483:

Jimmy JimBob.2801:

40 people should be more than enough to cause a nuisance

That’s what we were doing isn’t it

True enough.

And best of luck to anyone brave stupid enough to take on pad at our Garri

Ordibble.3092:

Bigger maps, multiple contestable waypoints that can be used by both sides, Charr troop transporters and drop copters that can be built like siege and carry limited numbers of players = more strategy = more dynamic = more fun.

This sounds like a fantastic idea

Had alot of fun fighting WSR tonight.

Felt we had good balance. We’d wipe you. You’d wipe us. We’d wipe you. You’d wipe us etc.

Ended up trying to defend Hills with he outmanned buff. Seems all of GH are doing other things this week now so maybe the fights won’t all be so bad

40 people should be more than enough to cause a nuisance

I have to echo what Phetid says. Please don’t go to NA. I want to meet you again, no matter what side of the battlefield you guys are on.

If Blacktide really is as dead as it sounds I guess WSR will remain in T8 for the most part once BT hit bottom. That shouldn’t be a problem.

I feel for you guys, with free transfers hitting right when you needed it most… but you’ll become stronger as players and a community for it and I’m sure you will have alot of good fights to come. That is at the end of the day why we play wvw.

Good luck, great server.

Sounds like good fun to me

GL NP. Had great fights with you these last few weeks, and maybe who knows, now we’ll meet again.

We had great fights against you for the whole early morning.
First off we bested you a few times at Bluevale (thanks for that, meant I at least got some loot from those 3 hours!). Then you grabbed Lake on the otherside and we stood off at Hills. You were pushing us back so we got siege up but then you disappeared. Turns out you’d grabbed Sunny.

We worked out you were going to the north SC to supply up for Sunny but we weren’t enough to take the tower before you got back. 2 hours, and a rather hefty repair bill later we finally turfed you out. That was not a good victory :P

Still was good fun, and I’d like to think we’ve learnt a trick or too

I didn’t attack any walls. Nor did I perma stealth.

2 thief aoe stealth skills plus blast finisher in smoke combo field. No cloak and dagger was used.

Have to laugh at you calling us out for getting new guilds (who asked to join us not the other way round) in your thread recruiting new guilds. Nice one!

In all seriousness though we’ve had some great fights against these guys. From a personal point of view I’ve found NP and HxH in particular to be a real handful and I’m sure any new guilds will enjoy fighting with them as much as I have against.

I’ve been on Gunnars since release and since I was the thief that hid our mesmer in your Garrison on Thursday I can confirm Tichai is not lying here.

However if you have fraps or screenshots of these exploits/cheats in action please send them to any community member or Champion of Khorne so we can deal with it internally. Thank you

This thread was already ruined by sore RoF players playing the numbers game. Now we have the numbers people are making it out as if we’ve always had them and trying to +1 their previous posts.
The first week we made no complaint about your numbers. We’re used to being outnumbered. What we complained about was an even match up ruined by an alliance between the biggest and smallest server. Then the last few weeks we’ve had great and for the most part fairly balanced fights between us. Trust me when I say there aren’t many on Gunnars who enjoy winning like this.

And I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again. We have not hired, recruited or actively sought any big alliance to GH (Go on find the GH guild recruitment thread, it will take you a while). All the guilds who have joined us approached us off their own back and spoke to us on comms before making their decision. It was all handled in a mature, friendly and cooperative manner – something which we don’t seem to be seeing from RoF here.

Anyway since I’ve had easier times breaking through a brick wall with my forehead I’m going to leave it here. All the best to WSR and RoF, and gl in your future matches