While I understand that a raid group system is pretty redundant for PvE with the way that world boss encounters are designed I think it is something that is sorely lacking in WvW. What we would really like is a set of unit frames for organizing larger guild groups so the commander can balance group class makeup by moving people around. WvW may have only been intended as a casual experience initially but there are a number of competitive guilds that prefer WvW to sPvP and we would like to be able to bring this level of co-ordination to it.
Is there a development road map with this somewhere on it?
Mods anet whoever look at this screen shot… No response to this?
They’ve already responded to this. It happens. I’m sure they’re working on optimizing their code (in fact Mike has said they are making architectural changes and will have an update in a couple of weeks).
The same thing happened on with HoD on Red borderlands last night. People were gathering to attack garrison they saw SBI coming through with golems and so they said don’t attack them and we grabbed some ET towers while they were all busy. This is just what happens in 3 faction PvP.
Hah, I can’t wait until HoD plays SBI without ET gunning at us.
SBI is either trolling or… nah it is trolling for sure. SBI Owes all their lead to ET. They should be very, very grateful that ET gave them free points all weekend long. Hell RUIN Admitted this and still people sing praise at SBI.
It was a very tough battle Friday, Sat and Sunday on HoD and at 7pm sunday night we on EB held every one of our sides objectives. Give credit where due. HoD played one hell of a defense during our NA prime time.
Let’s not be kitteny, there’s one person trolling from SBI no need to taint their entire server. SBI have been playing a great game and they deserve to be in the position they are in no ifs or buts.
Re the green borderland, I was on it during NZ primetime most of the weekend and we were under constant pressure; it’s just the nature of the map. The path of least resistance is for blue to push up the west side and red to push up the east side. I saw a few skirmishes on the towers to the south but nothing significant – we tend to do the same thing on the other borderlands it’s just the nature of the game. Guess what I’m trying to say is that when you have two dedicated opponents pressuring you on two fronts it’s pretty impossible to do much. Please note that this is not an accusation of collusion it’s just what happens on the home borderland.
On Saturday night NZ there was an epic 3 way battle in the garrison keep room. SBI managed to take the top floor and set up arrow carts and came out on top though.
Last night during the Oceanic primetime there were no queues for either Green or Red borderlands on HoD; I can’t speak to the other maps, and obviously we might still have had more people even without queues. It is what it is though, WvW is a 24/7 week long match. It will be interesting to see how the week plays out.
No need to get hurt feelings friend, I was complimenting SBI
And yes everyone has pugs, what changes though is the pug:organised guild ratio. We don’t need that as an excuse though. If we lose we lose. We pick ourselves up and get better next time.
So it isnt out of the realm of possibility. Thats my MAIN point. We have gotten into what looks like a dominant position when the battles were what I would say the game was ‘supposed’ to have and what the developers imagined.
Pretty sure the developers imagined that battles were ‘supposed’ to last the whole week not just a weekend.
SBI have done really well this weekend and capitalized really well on the intense rivalry between ET and HoD. Plus they’ve really sunk some siginificant funds into siege (pretty sure there were 2 omega golems at garrison on Green BL at one point) and used it effectively. The point is thought that wars are marathons not sprints.
If you guys lose, you’ll have to recruit more overnight guilds to be competitive. I think the class and skill you’ve shown on the battlefield and off should make that a lot easier. Best of luck, and thanks for providing such a fun matchup.
It should also be interesting to see how the average skill level is impacted after Tuesday when lots of visitors will return to their other game for a new expansion.
Pretty much this. One of your major PvP guilds (War Machine) are Korean so they are playing during the NA night time. Get a few more and you’ll be sweet.
It’s been an awesome match up and SBI have really brought their A game. It’d be a shame to see it cheapened by whinging about Oceanic play times. Part of being successful is organizing round the clock coverage. With the level of skill and organization you guys have shown on the battlefield surely it won’t be too tough for y’all to get together and sort that out.
When I play W3 with my guild mates, we look at the scores and say “Whoo not doing so well” or “Whoo hoo winning” but that’s about it.. We didnt contribute to every single one of those points. Server pride sneaks in a little but we know those points are not down to us individuality… So why do we play? FUN!
We go to W3 whether we are winning or being stomped in the points, we play equally if we’re winning or loosing. We go out there, team up, take what we can, get the xp and the other rewards and see what fun battles we can get into.. win or loose, points wise, just have fun already!
Perhaps that’s why it’s been such a good game fighting SBI. Less QQing on the forums about teaming up and night capping and more focusing on enjoying the battle.
What kills a game faster than anything is when a game stops being fun. This game stopped being fun when the sole determining factor for success turned out to be “how many Aussies are on your server.” It’s not players’ job to give Anet time to fix their game (especially when the last official post on this issue was that this situation is working as intended). It’s Anet’s job to give us a game that’s worth playing.
Personally participating in WvW is a fun in and of itself. The points are just a secondary consideration. If you have to win for a game to be fun perhaps you’d be better off playing something like Pokemon
Downsides:
You don’t get to build the sense of community that you have in preformed alliances because they change every week.
You can’t depend on your matched alliance mates to hold points that you have captured and put money in to upgrading because you don’t have that community.
The thing is this is a solution in search of a problem. We’re all big kids we don’t need Anet to hold our hands. Further this would invalidate all the work that the existing alliances have done to come together and create their charters.
Not everyone can be a winner. This is the nature of competition, that is also why there is matchmaking. Yes it’s unfortunate there are 4 dominant servers instead of 6 but that’s just the way the cookie crumbles. This isn’t a bug that needs to be fixed, this is up to the servers that are getting beaten to round out their WvW roster.
Do we have to have these threads repeated ad nauseum? Anet have said WvWvW is designed to be a persistent 24 hour battle. This is working as intended. Perhaps you could invite some Canadians to your server so you can be competitive?
I agree with the OP, Mesmer’s definitely don’t need this skill. However why stop at portals? Elementalists can stand on a keep wall when they are defending and kill large numbers of people with AoE, or when they are attacking a building they can AoE from the ground and hit siege weapons on the wall. This is clearly an exploit because as a mesmer I have limited options to AoE back at them. Why do Elementalists get a groundbreaking amount of AoE and not the other classes?
Hi Mike, sorry if this question has already been answered but in the vein of spreading out WvW players will you be closing free transfers to servers with large WvW queues anytime soon?
I just don’t think any sort of points scaling is the answer because whoever is getting scaled down is having their overall contribution devalued. I think Aedgyth is right. Encourage people to go the the servers with lower W3 pops and things will start to balance out.
