I can’t believe all the crybabies, we got lots of good stuff this patch, so what if tw was tones down- quickness was halved for EVERY class, ours is still the only group quickness/combo field of awesomeness. And as far as stealth? Lolwhat, if you were blowing all your cool downs to stealth one after the other you’re not doing it right… the short revealed thing doesn’t affect us.
Wow confusing images great for shatter builds. GS a small piercing buff. Lots of good stuff.
Nerf Shatter builds in PVP and WvW please. They are too OP. No QQ pls.
Hi troll, you make no sense, try again? What do shatter builds have to do with anything? I don’t play one lol.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
I can’t believe all the crybabies, we got lots of good stuff this patch, so what if tw was tones down- quickness was halved for EVERY class, ours is still the only group quickness/combo field of awesomeness. And as far as stealth? Lolwhat, if you were blowing all your cool downs to stealth one after the other you’re not doing it right… the short revealed thing doesn’t affect us.
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Is there a way something similar could be done with necro skills? There was a necro in wvw the other day that was consistently hitting people with conditions, and that chomping noise skill, from distances he shouldn’t have been able to. But he also seemed to be bouncing around an area in weird/way to fast ways, someone who plays necro said he was using some kind of teleport skill they have but that the skill didn’t have a cd that allowed spamming like this guy was doing.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Surpisingly for me, I’ve experienced the opposite.
Before the patch I used to have an insane amount of skill lag in fights making WvW almost unplayable most of the time for me.
I was kind of both dreading and looking forward to the culling fix and to my surprise I have been in some of the biggest fights i’ve ever been in today and only experience a lot of skill lag in one of them.
The rest of the fights i have been in today have had very minimal lag for me and have been a big improvement on my gameplay experience before the patch.
This is my experience too, this patch has been awesome
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Someone suggested that you read thru the various wvw matchup threads in this forum to see how each server behaves, I rather disagree with that since all servers have their annoying forum trolls who tend to be more vocal in places like this. You’re more likely to get a better idea of a server’s overall attitude and behavior from their server’s own website/forum where more of that server’s population will be posting not just a few forum warriors lol.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
shatter builds will always be better in pvp, compared to phantasm builds.
not only in terms of damage, but utility
I’d disagree .
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Have to say I’m very disappointed in tsym. Coron made a post two weeks ago saying how anyone saying T3 wasn’t competitive was talking out their butt and now he says we are no competition even tho their server is obviously falling. From Coron’s post back then I thought they must have a good attitude about WvW and I wrote a reply in that thread saying as such but I guess now we see tsym is actually a bunch of pansies who can’t handle losing.
Just some friendly advice: We all win some and lose some. Ignore the tier number and the score and just go out and have fun. I bet if you stick around on SoS for next week in T4 you’ll find you aren’t nearly so outnumbered and your guild would feel more accomplished and have more fun with better odds.
Goodness knows YB has been crushed by other servers and we’ve had our wvw population and coordination go up and down but the main people are still on Yaks and still fighting. The guilds and people that left us when we were down only benefited us in the long run. But then again, maybe SoS is better off without tsym, ;D
We’ll be fine. There’s probably a few more quitters left to leave, but such is life. The rest of us are doing what we can for now (looks at score and cringes…) and just waiting until we fall to an appropriate tier that matches our remaining population.
Don’t look! It can be pretty frustrating when your server isn’t doing well, turnout gets less and less which makes it even tougher on those still trying to wvw. Dunno if you guys are familiar with the karma train thing but we did that a lot on Yak’s when we were getting steamrolled by the bandwagon servers passing thru. Keeps things fun for people and helps then level alts and such during times when you don’t have the manpower to hold structures/defend. Take the week to make some gold, relax, and have fun and look forward to better odds next week.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
This is my mesmer, I look so hot!
You look rather cold honestly, maybe try eating a little more, a little flesh on those bones might help :o
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Have to say I’m very disappointed in tsym. Coron made a post two weeks ago saying how anyone saying T3 wasn’t competitive was talking out their butt and now he says we are no competition even tho their server is obviously falling. From Coron’s post back then I thought they must have a good attitude about WvW and I wrote a reply in that thread saying as such but I guess now we see tsym is actually a bunch of pansies who can’t handle losing.
Just some friendly advice: We all win some and lose some. Ignore the tier number and the score and just go out and have fun. I bet if you stick around on SoS for next week in T4 you’ll find you aren’t nearly so outnumbered and your guild would feel more accomplished and have more fun with better odds.
Goodness knows YB has been crushed by other servers and we’ve had our wvw population and coordination go up and down but the main people are still on Yaks and still fighting. The guilds and people that left us when we were down only benefited us in the long run. But then again, maybe SoS is better off without tsym, ;D
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Well, it only does the blast at the end when it does the burning thing which makes it kinda hard to time. I wish it was blast at the start and finish the way it used to be but if I could only have one I’d rather it do the blast finisher when you go invisible at the start because it would be so much easier to time.
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May I ask what the top piece is called? Looks awesome though I’ve never seen it before
low lvl karma merchant, you can get it in bloodtide coast: http://dulfy.net/2012/08/30/bloodtide-coast-karma-vendor-list/
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a bunker mesmer is a low damage mesmer … and if u have any guardian/warrior in party.
I think they will get all the agro on them.
And I am interested to know how can you control the mobs ? r u using focus a offhand ?
Who has aggro isn’t all about who is doing most damage in this game, I don’t know the whole mechanic but I’m told the person with the highest toughness will usually pull aggro and I’ve seen this demonstrated many times where there was no other reason for a boss to go after the person they were lol
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I don’t often use any of the weapon recharge traits when I run phantasm, I usually run scepter/sword, sword/pistol or sword/torch and the cool downs with the weapon swap cool down work out quite well. You just have to figure out what you want as far as damage vs. utility. I generally run 0/20(II/X)/20(IV,VII)/25(IV,II)/5 or 20/20/0/25/5
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Pretty sure you are the only one crying about this. Everyone else here has been pretty mature about this discussion…which is what adults do…discuss. I’m also pretty sure that’s what forums are designed for. Especially class forums…to give opinions about class direction and balance. If you actually have something relevant to say in regards to this issue that actually has some factual basis..go right ahead and say it..so far you have not contributed anything. You keep dodging the reality of the situation instead. Mesmers do give up things just like any other class does. Mesmer’s definitely do not deal as much direct or damage over time as some other classes (They are already planning on toning down shatter damage…current state of the game video). Otherwise, mesmers are one of the lower hp classes, light armor, and middle of the pack damage output. Mesmers are already being pigeon holed into specific (less than optimal rune sets) just to compensate for this issue. Not sure what else you expect them to give up? Get your facts straight before you post something like “and not have to give up anything to do it”. Mesmers currently give up the most of any class for this. Its just simple minded of you to expect no one to have an opinion on the extensive lengths a mesmer has to go to to attain out of combat swiftness like other classes….this a forum for opinions after all. Its pretty childish to get upset that people would have such an opinion. I find it odd personally that you take such a personal stake in preventing an obvious quality of life improvement that can’t do anything but make traveling across the map more convenient and equal with other classes. Are you one of those people that feels a need to make sure others can’t have something just because you don’t feel they should? That’s what’s pathetic if that’s the case.
The only thing I’m complaining about is that you people can’t be happy with the speed options you have and are always crying more more more. And make up your mind, opinions or facts? You seem to want to use the words interchangeably to suit your argument. Your opinions are not facts and your opinions are not based in reality lol. Maybe you should actually go play the game for a while. Re: state of the game video: They never said they were going to tone down shatter damage, go watch the video again, try to pay attention.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Not ever class will have a passive speed boost just as not every class will not be getting portals. Giving every class the same abilities is not how to balance things. Technically, it would actually balance things, but it would make every class the same, which would be pretty dumb.
I disagree. In any other MMO game I played, they had equal movement speed on all classes. Different classes with different skills, but same movement speed. The only exceptions were things like blink or teleport. It wasn’t making every class the same, and it wasn’t dumb.
What is dumb in GW2 is having a lots of different weapons available, but in WvW everyone is forced to use one specific weapon with speed, otherwise he’s at a disadvantage.
Every mesmer in WvW is running with focus. That’s not variety, that’s monoculture.
Or in your words:
… but it would make every class the same, which would be pretty dumb.
Other games I’ve played classes had different movement speed options: some more than others, some none at all unless you wanted to sacrifice something to get it. And where do you see every mesmer in wvw running focus? Because I can tell you there’s a lot of us who aren’t lol half of BS is mesmers.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
You’d have to ask kylia, who made the chart, he’s around somewhere. I look at numbers and they just look like gibberish to me xD
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Phase Retreat always moves you away from your target so if you want to move forward just make sure your target is behind you.
Oh wow. So simple. I had assumed it would always port you backwards, so never even bothered to use it while fleeing. Thank you.
Is there a way to port yourself forward then, but outside of combat, with ease?
There’s usually random white named mobs around you can click to get a target behind you that you can phase forward off of. Or use blink lol
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
It holds just as much water as it does for any other class that does have high mobility and out of combat reliable swiftness. Clearly the developers thought that ooc movement speed outside of waypoints was necessary, or they wouldn’t have given that to every other class.
Have you actually played any other classes? o_O
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
If I recall correctly it was calculated on damage per auto attack.
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Staff cds are pretty short, especially with the trait o.o
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Sounds like you want to play a thief. Go for it!
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Except for the fact that you can watch it LIVE. @ Kazhiel, LOL
Orly? Because just a few minutes ago we mowed over a DB group on SoS BL, I guess that means SoS and YB have an alliance now!
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
SausageStorm, time and date and upload it or it didnt happen.
What about you people saying Yaks and DB have an alliance? Time and date and upload it or it didn’t happen ;D
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mesmer is actually the most UP class
lolwut. Only if you’re a noob who doesn’t know how to play one o_O
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I have to be careful not to outrun everyone else.
That’s the stupidest thing i’ve read in this forum.
Not my fault you don’t know how to keep swiftness up.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, mesmer movement speed doesn’t bother me in the slightest. In a group in wvw there’s always permanent swiftness shared between players. If I need to run away I can generally out confuse the enemy and get out of their sight/switching directions, if someone is running from me why should I care? They ran away, I win! Outside of wvw wtf you in a hurry for anyway? There’s way points everywhere, the little jaunt you might have to make between way points is nothing, enjoy the scenery.
Not everyone runs around in zergs in WvW?
And if you’re wandering around solo what are you in a hurry for anyway? I spend a good portion of my wvw time solo, on a bl I can cross the map back and forth to get all the yaks easy peasy, ebg isn’t so simple but lol.
Downplay it all you want, but going from playing any other profession in the game in WvW, for a considerable amount of time, to playing a Mesmer, is painful. It’s like you’re moving in slow-motion. It’s just inconvenient.
Being “in a hurry” is hardly the issue. It’s a simple quality of life problem.
And I can get somewhere just as fast or faster than everyone else except maybe thief or ranger. When running with guild, depending on what build I’m running, I have to be careful not to outrun everyone else. You want to make it so I can run even faster? lol If I spec for speed then I have plenty of it, if I don’t then I don’t. Same as all the other classes :P
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, mesmer movement speed doesn’t bother me in the slightest. In a group in wvw there’s always permanent swiftness shared between players. If I need to run away I can generally out confuse the enemy and get out of their sight/switching directions, if someone is running from me why should I care? They ran away, I win! Outside of wvw wtf you in a hurry for anyway? There’s way points everywhere, the little jaunt you might have to make between way points is nothing, enjoy the scenery.
Not everyone runs around in zergs in WvW?
And if you’re wandering around solo what are you in a hurry for anyway? I spend a good portion of my wvw time solo, on a bl I can cross the map back and forth to get all the yaks easy peasy, ebg isn’t so simple but lol.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, mesmer movement speed doesn’t bother me in the slightest. In a group in wvw there’s always permanent swiftness shared between players. If I need to run away I can generally out confuse the enemy and get out of their sight/switching directions, if someone is running from me why should I care? They ran away, I win! Outside of wvw wtf you in a hurry for anyway? There’s way points everywhere, the little jaunt you might have to make between way points is nothing, enjoy the scenery.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Going for a regal look with my mesmer
Looks like He-Man with way more clothes.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
They’ve made some pretty major changes to mesmer so far… and I still don’t agree with some of their decisions.
Like how summoning a phantom is considered an attack and you can dodge/block/blind to prevent the summon… making mesmer the only class that has multi-hitting/aoe attacks that don’t even occur at all due to a single dodge/block/blind. I constantly use that messed up mechanic against mesmers and it’s really kittened up. But yea… you adapt and just kinda shrug at it and use clones instead.
Major bugs like the izerker doing diddly for damage… is when I shelf the toon until it’s fixed… and mes seems to be plagued with bugs more often than some of the other classes.
Neither issue bothers me, the first just means I actually have to pay more attention to what I’m doing. The GS issue whatever it is will likely get fixed but I almost never use a GS because there are so many other weapon combinations I like better. There is no one way to play a mesmer, just because one weapon isn’t working right for a bit doesn’t make the class crappy :P
But seriously… How freaking cool is it to shoot a giant beam out of a giant sword… Who wouldn’t like that?
It does have a neat mechanic in general (lol caster using greatsword) and I used one from 1-80 and for quite a while after that. I’ve been having much fun with other weapons lately that I just never use it anymore xD
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
the most awesome look ^^ evaluate
Not even close
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On another note, there’s a mesmer in BS who runs what he calls a shatter/daze build, he’s got the boon strip on shatter trait, wonder how that would fare against this build since as long as he could land his shatters he could keep retaliation off you?
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Meh, some people are sore losers. I’m used to dying in video games at this point, respawn and try again!
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
LOLOLOL Sorry… your char was (I think) and that’s what I go off of… Another tough cookie in this build is a condition heavy thief lol… It’s doable… but not a walk in the park like say… guardian
Was it a big fat hairy norn male in BS? That one wasn’t me and if so I didn’t realize you fought him, I must have missed that. That was Celtika’s mesmer which is a male but it has a girl name “Emmelou” for which we are always making fun of him for. I think he’s running Seven’s staff build.
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lol ahhh… I see yeah he said they were trying to prove a point that Mesmer was too OP and I just sucked for playing it… Good fight with you tho man! 
Not a man! But yeah, see you around sometime, and I’ll try and remember to bring a phantasm build next time hahaha ;D
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
They’ve made some pretty major changes to mesmer so far… and I still don’t agree with some of their decisions.
Like how summoning a phantom is considered an attack and you can dodge/block/blind to prevent the summon… making mesmer the only class that has multi-hitting/aoe attacks that don’t even occur at all due to a single dodge/block/blind. I constantly use that messed up mechanic against mesmers and it’s really kittened up. But yea… you adapt and just kinda shrug at it and use clones instead.
Major bugs like the izerker doing diddly for damage… is when I shelf the toon until it’s fixed… and mes seems to be plagued with bugs more often than some of the other classes.
Neither issue bothers me, the first just means I actually have to pay more attention to what I’m doing. The GS issue whatever it is will likely get fixed but I almost never use a GS because there are so many other weapon combinations I like better. There is no one way to play a mesmer, just because one weapon isn’t working right for a bit doesn’t make the class crappy :P
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
The last memser you fought was me in the cream and blue outfit. The other mesmer was Joker who was very likely the GS guardian you’re talking about also since I know guard is his main and I can imagine he was quite kitten to lose. I wouldn’t pay much attention to those guys lol
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
You may well be right about what they said before… as well as what the end effect is.
I remain hopeful but not expectant about it all none the less.
Same goes for the balance changes… but at the same time… what’s happened in the past is why I now have so many have alts >.< lol
I’m not bothered by the various changes, I’ll probably keep playing mesmer indefinitely unless they somehow utterly change the basic mechanics of the class, which I don’t see happening. But neither being considered OP or UP bothers me, as long as I’m having fun with whatever I’m doing, the rest of you kittening and moaning over 99% silly stuf is meaningless :P
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
The one with the legendary from AI? I don’t know who he was, that was the first time I’ve seen him. I can say that some of the other people that were there from Yaks probably fall into the jerk category.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Yup, guess I was lagging more than I thought since I was pretty sure I had a hundred million illusions chasing and blowing up around me lol and I don’t really recall actually landing much of any hits on you to even get any retaliation to die from. I hurt myself at one point dodging with 6 stacks of confusion on.
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Technically I don’t think they actually said they fixed it before, just made changes to how it processed. And them turning culling off as a “fix” as they call it will only fix it for people with fancy internet connections and high end computers, the rest of us with crappy internet and old computers will probably still have issues of some sort :P
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Were you running Pyro’s build last night? Because the amount of illusion generation and all the shattering you were doing, and I assumed SoI to recharge shatters, didn’t look like it lol
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We use it to run away a lot xD
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Awesome thread, laughed so hard omg much <3 for TC
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Had fun duels with Yak’s this last night… Until I was refused to in duels because “Mesmer is OP and take no skill” After which I proceeded to wipe the floor with the YB mesmers that were there. Don’t hate my johnny asura. He doesn’t hate any one and he loves all of DB and any one that duels him.
For those in db Johnny The Gray.
I missed out on most of the FC since I emoed out of the game for a while after spending three minutes running in place in Cliffside, my internet is so embarrassing ._. It’s pretty silly the others wouldn’t fight you, but then that guardian refused to fight me, I hadn’t planned on even participating but I had thought I could at least not embarrass myself against a guard lmao I’ll have to poke fun at the guys tonight that they’re a bunch of wimps but I have a feeling it was all the AI peeps refusing to fight you and not BS, I did see at one point where they refused a 2v2.
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Not sure what happened at that meeting we don’t talk about, my laggy self showed up shortly before it somehow turned into a free for all. I piled in since that looked like the thing to do. Sorry maybe? o__o
Jalliel [AI] – Yak’s Bend
Oh lmao, didn’t even know there was supposed to be a protective bubble. The couple times we did it we didn’t have and tho the one run was a struggle we made it thru eventually. We found you can kinda stand in between those pillars to the left side in the little nook and not get knocked down so much/at all if you have someone that can give the group stability. Rumbles stops in one spot and stays there and you can just range him.
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Woot, so cool
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