Guild Wars 2

Rizo.9534:

Kitty.1502:

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

Thanks for the tremendous amount of feedback regarding the Druid. I’ll be modifying swaths of the druid (and scrapper) to fix bugs and account for your feedback this week and reviewing things like glyphs effectiveness, celestial avatar skill differentiation, astral force charging rates and some of the staff skills.

In general the Celestial Avatar form’s base heals feel a bit too high and heal coefficients didn’t feel rewarding enough to go with healpower stats. The heals themselves seemed to be working at decent values, so I’ll be tweaking the base heals down and coefficients up some in order to better reward selecting healing power stat combos as a druid.

Honestly if you nerf the base heal in cele form you most likely will make druid not worth taking in any instance outside of support. Is this the vision you have for druid and ranger?

ATM heal in berserk are to high and scaling from gear are not worth at all to take it.

IMHO it have to be lower about on 25% and higher than now if you take +healingPower.

I disagree that its to high, the scaling could be better with healing power, but going into cele form you are losing all real damage potential, its what you give up to heal yourself. With all the sustain that other classes have, this actually feels like a good amount of sustain against other classes. For crying out loud we shouldn’t be the worst in every kitten aspect of this game.

Troll Ungent isn’t the problem the problem is that each time you heal you fill 20% of the cele bar.

Bryzy.2719:

Is it because all the other elite specs are so powerful?

I’m using my same tank condi bunker build except swapping out Beastmastery for Druid traitline, and I survived way better with my old build.

partially because all the other specs are much more powerful, other part is that druid doesn’t do much in terms of defense. Furthmore, Ranger has access to no real burst options so the amount of burst coming from other classes just increases this issue.

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

Thanks for the tremendous amount of feedback regarding the Druid. I’ll be modifying swaths of the druid (and scrapper) to fix bugs and account for your feedback this week and reviewing things like glyphs effectiveness, celestial avatar skill differentiation, astral force charging rates and some of the staff skills.

In general the Celestial Avatar form’s base heals feel a bit too high and heal coefficients didn’t feel rewarding enough to go with healpower stats. The heals themselves seemed to be working at decent values, so I’ll be tweaking the base heals down and coefficients up some in order to better reward selecting healing power stat combos as a druid.

Honestly if you nerf the base heal in cele form you most likely will make druid not worth taking in any instance outside of support. Is this the vision you have for druid and ranger?

Here is my wvw zerg healing build – http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATWnEqAtsglsCOsActglFBDeqmV7qLXuAwRrpc1BGBVc3N-TlSDABGqEMq9HyS5neaCE4IAcwDAIhLAwlq/AnOAAOEAAA-w

Gav.1425:

The point of this thread is power creep. Just because something is new doesn’t mean it should be stronger than the old stuff.

Just because druid is new doesn’t mean it should have an unbalanced movement ability. 8% is a big deal. If all elite specs did 8% more damage than old specs, you’d be in an uproar—this is just the mobility version.

Ad hominem – (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

I play mesmer, I play everything. I haven’t PvPed on mesmer since the spec patch. Your personal attacks have no place in this thread. The mesmer example was just to show that something can be new without being an example of powercreep.

Your trait is unbalanced and you’re fighting just because you want to keep it, not because you think it improves the overall balance of the game. Since some of you players show such animosity towards mesmers and other classes, it would stand to reason that you all do not play them enough to have an actual opinion of the game as a whole.

Don’t be selfish. Balance is good for the entire game.

Its pretty balanced when you look at how mobile other classes are, etc thief/mesmer/warrior all come to mind. The trait allows those who take it to stay as mobile as possible, there is also very strong counter play against it. Counter it.

I did the PvE raid, and my healing felt very lackluster. It seemed no matter how much healing I did the raid really never benefited from it.

Interesting, still like my lockdown ranger a bit better, more offense and about the same defense.

One other issue is most of the glyphs have a cast time when they shouldn’t, like the knockback one. It is a defensive glyph it shouldn’t have a cast time like that, it makes it useless.

Rizo.9534:

dat revenant was awful…
Really!

F_uu.

They were running a zerker build with no condi cleanse, I run a lockdown ranger. It ate it up.

I’ll leave these here as my statement on why ranger pets need to be improved:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBZtYUa-pLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7DWcU3ULtw

Here are a few duels I did against a Revenant

Really like the lockdown that druid provides power rangers.

Depending on build the hammer can deal roughly 50% more dps than a Longbow for the ranger, with much better ability to burst and survive.

Embolism.8106:

Agree 100%. For the Mesmer, it seems like a lot of fixes for core Mesmer problems went into the Chronomancer.

The other problem with balancing core professions with Elites is that future elites will need to incorporate fixes for the same problems, causing every Elite to reinvent the wheel.

This isn’t the case for a few of the elites. Druid for example really doesn’t do anything for fixing the Core Ranger.

Gav.1425:

Loyo.8526:

Its balanced. 33% is strong, but once you get hit by that random chill from a reaper fear, you are back to 0% and ready to be bursted on.

Are you people really trying to argue that 25% matters when you’re hit with chill? Because it doesn’t.

Base speed = 100%
Speed + 25% = 125%
25% + Chill = 125-66% = 59%
Base + Chill = 100-66% = 34%

Regardless of having 25% or not (59% or 34%), if you’re hit with chill, you’re caught. If you’re anything under 100%, you’re caught unless you have a leap or a cleanse—both of which druids have plenty.

Ride the lightning on a 12s cooldown, old Greatsword leap (9.5-12~ s CD),

This mechanic of losing the 33% when slowed does not balance druids having a better passive mobility trait than any other class in the game.

Why did they add unbalanced mobility to one of the most mobile classes already?

Because unlike other classes, the class is so reliant on mobility, that it is the only saving grace the class has with the rest of the broken class that is the ranger.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

So these numbers are not that good by comparison. Take a look at Rym’s numbers I attached below.

I suppose it depends on the opposing team as to how much you can actually heal, his best was 1.1 million healing in 1 game.

That is effectively cancelling out a good engineer’s damage as well as 1/4 of a D/D ele while still sitting on a point.

how much of that was to the PCs and not NPCs?

Numbers are pretty low, though numbers don’t say everything.

Are you full healer? What type of build. Initially these don’t look all that impressive, but hard to make a judgement with out knowing build

Aidenwolf.5964:

@Kitty also realize they aren’t tuned yet and heal scaling is far from right. I’d expect current healing output to be tuned to full heal gear with buffs at launch, making many think Druids were nerfed when in actuality they were tuned.

Honestly, any less healing then they do now in full clerics and it probably wouldn’t be worth taking them over another guardian.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Kitty.1502:

cafard.8953:

Don’t you guys have the impression that the reaction around here is very much like the kneejerk people were ranting about for WHaO? The spec has barely been tried out for a couple of days, yet it’s already being branded broken, useless or OP, in its entirety or in details. It’ll take weeks at least for people to get the bigger picture after the meta adapts around the new specs.

I don’t think the build is useless, it seems pretty good in a lot of ways for WvW raids and is a good addition to Core Ranger builds like the Power Ranger. With that said, this beta event should highlight for people who are really paying attention the issues with the ranger with every class getting lots of sustain for their dps specs, the ranger dps just can’t break the sustain of classes such as rev/engineer/necro/ele now and our dps is just to low to match mesmer/thief/guardian so we really don’t fit any where for our core ranger. Druid yes it is fantastic in WvW raids, and potentially PvE raids.

If this class as constituted is good enough to main heal raids then raids will fail. Many seem to want Druid to be a hybrid damage / healer but if you’re able to main heal a raid hybrid then raids were a waste of Anet’s resources.

I can’t speak to PvE raids as they were turned off. For WvW raids they give groups a lot more sustain, meaning that groups are able to stay engaged much longer than they were before.

Chokolata.1870:

Druids are great at healing but have no boon production. They CC and they heal. This is their niche.

Guardian and Ele are worse at healing but they are boon factories.

bigger difference is that Ele and Guardian can do more damage while bunkering.

Leodon.1564:

This is major concern of mine as well.

Druid is imo only 50% as polished as some of the other elites that got multiple feedback/revision cycles through betas. How is Anet going to address this considering Druid arguably needed the most betas (since it was tackling uncharted territories in trying to balance healing with DPS) to get to a polished state?

Anet’s response will probably be something along the lines of “all classes will continue to go through changes” but Druid really needs more focused attention than the rest of the classes beyond HoT.

Its part of the Ranger, Ranger has been in the situation of needing more polish then every other class since launch. Nothing will change Druid won’t see the polish it needs for a long time.

I average on my power ranger between 400k~500k damage depending on what I am doing and the team needs.

Yashuoa.9527:

Kitty.1502:

Glyph of Unity really should be a direct translation of 100% damage feedback. Punish attackers for not paying attention. It is also very easy to break, go stealth? Its broken, They go stealth? Its broken. Move 200 units away from them? its broken…. skill is just terrible.

How about this?

It needs a big radius increase too or not break once people move out of the radius.
The radius could only have as effect that it tethers people in it and you wont get the tether applied on you if you stand outside.
However once you are inside the radius and it gets applied and you are tethered, than you cant get rid of it for its duration.
Or the radius should be 1500 or higher or so before it breaks.

The healing/dmg should be higher.

Radius should never break, its an elite. The damage is also very pitiful, at best will only deal about 15%~20% of the players health if they go full rage on you.

Glyph of Unity really should be a direct translation of 100% damage feedback. Punish attackers for not paying attention. It is also very easy to break, go stealth? Its broken, They go stealth? Its broken. Move 200 units away from them? its broken…. skill is just terrible.

Fix Gun Flame, Then nerf it – no skill should do 12k crit base on an 8 sec CD.

cafard.8953:

Don’t you guys have the impression that the reaction around here is very much like the kneejerk people were ranting about for WHaO? The spec has barely been tried out for a couple of days, yet it’s already being branded broken, useless or OP, in its entirety or in details. It’ll take weeks at least for people to get the bigger picture after the meta adapts around the new specs.

I don’t think the build is useless, it seems pretty good in a lot of ways for WvW raids and is a good addition to Core Ranger builds like the Power Ranger. With that said, this beta event should highlight for people who are really paying attention the issues with the ranger with every class getting lots of sustain for their dps specs, the ranger dps just can’t break the sustain of classes such as rev/engineer/necro/ele now and our dps is just to low to match mesmer/thief/guardian so we really don’t fit any where for our core ranger. Druid yes it is fantastic in WvW raids, and potentially PvE raids.

Kailee.8790:

Kitty.1502:

Dawdler.8521:

Kitty.1502:

Dawdler.8521:

Ackzar.9156:

The idea to make the Druid a part of the meta by making it a heavy healer is an interesting idea.

Interesting, but fighting them and seeing what they can do, that’s apparently not what it does best… At least not in WvW. The Druid as is can insta-kill any class. No healing will ever be needed lol.

A druid can’t insta-kill any class…

Yes they can lol. I have no idea how they do it – I havent played them. But I have seen druid insta-kill people from full HP. Its some type of pulse attack that does 4K damage each. But hey at least its balanced by 30K killshots, hah!

The beta weekend gave me a real feel of p2w… You’re going to need HoT to compete, no question about it.

On my full zerker power ranger glyphs can do 4k damage, only two glyphs are able to do that, so its 2 skills that do 4k each. Still not one shooting someone. Mind you also you have to lose a bit of defense utilities to pick up these glyphs so the ranger will be at a disadvantage. Furthermore, at only a range of 300 these glyphs will miss relatively easily.

Kitty don’t forget, he is talking about druid…. Druid who has overall less dmg output than a ranger and less dmg skills overall

Have to go druid spec to get the glyphs unless he is talking about a druid in clerics or zealots then it isn’t possible to hit that high.

Dawdler.8521:

Kitty.1502:

Dawdler.8521:

Ackzar.9156:

The idea to make the Druid a part of the meta by making it a heavy healer is an interesting idea.

Interesting, but fighting them and seeing what they can do, that’s apparently not what it does best… At least not in WvW. The Druid as is can insta-kill any class. No healing will ever be needed lol.

A druid can’t insta-kill any class…

Yes they can lol. I have no idea how they do it – I havent played them. But I have seen druid insta-kill people from full HP. Its some type of pulse attack that does 4K damage each. But hey at least its balanced by 30K killshots, hah!

The beta weekend gave me a real feel of p2w… You’re going to need HoT to compete, no question about it.

On my full zerker power ranger glyphs can do 4k damage, only two glyphs are able to do that, so its 2 skills that do 4k each. Still not one shooting someone. Mind you also you have to lose a bit of defense utilities to pick up these glyphs so the ranger will be at a disadvantage. Furthermore, at only a range of 300 these glyphs will miss relatively easily.

Dawdler.8521:

Ackzar.9156:

The idea to make the Druid a part of the meta by making it a heavy healer is an interesting idea.

Interesting, but fighting them and seeing what they can do, that’s apparently not what it does best… At least not in WvW. The Druid as is can insta-kill any class. No healing will ever be needed lol.

A druid can’t insta-kill any class…

Honestly right now druid isn’t needed in any aspect of current pve, as such if you are going to play the class for fun, then find a fun build for you and use it. If you are looking for some meta type build, you won’t ever find one for druid (as a healer) though you could probably get away with a ranger power build that uses druid.

Here is something that might work: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAT8XnEqAtqg1sCWsActgl9ADOueX/rL3uAwojZgFwGBXMVJSA-ThBBABYt/o8DgLCQe6GC4JAUp6PnpEEA-e

Firebird Gomer.9563:

So I feel that I need to point this out for everyone to see what will happen because of the Druid Class.

1: Rangers will not be allowed to take part in Dungeons/Fractals/Raids unless there are more than 2 druids in a group. Oh and only if no other class can be found first!

2: Druid Class will take all blame if party dies even once. It won’t matter if you have a bad internet connection you are still responsible.

3: If you don’t move to the specific spot to heal the person that is taking damage at the time they are taking damage you will get yelled at, this while your healing someone else at the same time.

4: Griefing and Elitism. This will run rampant on Druids. They will be picked on and put down.

5: Prediction 5 is a little late someone already said it in this topic, but I will use it anyway. Go join a good guild. This will backfire when people in those “good guilds” start asking for Druid and no one will want to go as it because they got abused last time.

I know that there are more for me to predict but I can’t think of them at the moment but will add more over the next few days.

1.) Honestly don’t think Druids will be wanted in most PvE content outside of potentially raids, and that is yet to be seen. DPS is and always will be better in the older content.
2.) Healer and Tank has always taken all the blame, whether it is true or not isn’t always the case. Easy escape goat.
3.) Call them out on why they failed. Generally will shut them up.
4.) Not more than Rangers already are.
5.) This has actually happened in other MMOs where a vast majority of healers have left guilds because of healer abuse. The best healers will go to the best communities if we are vital, this again is yet to be seen.

Petrol.9086:

The Druid is far too isolated from the rest of the ranger. There’s just not any synergy there with existing traits or weapons.
I did enjoy healing in PvP tho.

There is just a lot of synergy between druid and power ranger. Though when you look at all the sustain that most classes are getting with their DPS builds you will notice just how lacking Rangers dps is. This is mostly to very broken pet mechanics.

This is my review of the druid so far after 15 hours of play. Play was mostly limited to WvW Zerg, WvW Roaming and SPvP though some play was done in PvE since raids were disabled was not able to try it out in that regards. My initial thoughts of the ranger thought it was going to be its own thing and not able to meld well with my current builds I use in PvP, with a little tinkering I found that the druid is a great addition to power ranger builds. Ranger doesn’t fix them, and in fact one of the core issues this beta has and should highlight for everyone is just how poor our dps is with how much sustain is in play for all classes. Some classes we cannot beat even if they are dps because we cannot dps through other classes sustain.

Staff

Most staff skills feel fine, I did not run into any real issues, it is great for recharging cele and in zergs I was almost always able to get back into cele form rather quickly.
Solar Beam – This skill while many might think is weak, compared to other staff skills it is almost on par, I believe dropping it from 1 ¼ CD to something like ¾ CD will bring this skill into line with other staff auto attacks especially when you look at water staff for elementalist.
Astral Wisp – The radius for this is less than the attack distance for melee which is 130. This skill feels under whelming because of the low radius this should at least be minimum of 300.
Ancestral Grace – I really enjoy this skill though getting stuck in the animation after I have arrived at the location is kind of a bummer, wish it didn’t do that.
Vine Surge – This skill is very clunky to use with little to no practical use. 1 second of immobilize isn’t going to do much with how much and the damage isn’t fitting with it be a 20 CD decrease the CD to 15 seconds and increase the immobilize from 1 second to 3.
Sublime Conversion – On paper this might seem really great, but it does not heal enough, it heals about 100 base, this should be a 100% direct conversion to healing.

Celestial Form

This form critically needs stability without stability this form will have a very hard time in zergs with how much bouncing there is. The skills we have that grant stability are all on a 60 sec CD not short enough for good use in zergs, and with guardians already needing to be heavily loaded, there just isn’t enough stab to go around. I suggest that stability should be pulse 2 stacks every 3 seconds while in celestial form. Furthermore, celestial form should be able to enter at will and drop out will without needing a full bar/removing all cele energy. This should work like it does for necromancers. Finally going into Celestial Form should act as a stun break.
Cosmic Ray – This skill feels very nice. No complaints about it feel where it should be.
Seed of Life – This skill just feels wrong, it is probably because of the small radius of 180, in raids I never see this hit anyone because it takes so long for the plant to grow and burst. Decrease this time.
Lunar Impact – Really nice skill with 3 base daze and a trait can bring it up to 6 second. At first I thought this was really over powered, but with all the sustain and dps that is currently in play this doesn’t seem so much the case anymore, it allows power rangers to have a bit more sustain in order to not get rolled over so easily. IF pet dps is fixed, this skill might need to be nerfed down to 2 second base instead of 3.
Rejuvenating Tides – This skill is amazing, this is the big heal for druids. This skill should have the same radius as natural convergence of 360.
Natural Convergence – This skill needs a bit of heal, it is a root with limited damage, you put yourself at great risk using this for very little reward, remove the root aspect.

Glyphs

The biggest issue is the radius for these skills, these skills often times feel VERY useless because of how small the radius is, and end up missing more often than not. They should have a minimum radius of 360.
Glyph of Alignment – Feels fine, nice healing and the conditions it can apply are pretty good.
Glyph of Empowerment – This can be a great skill for the healing aspect I think the increase is damage is a bit low buffing that from 10% to 20%.
Glyph of Equality – This should break stun in both forms. Also I think this skill should stun for 1 second so that two stacks of stability are required. With the amount of stab in play right now, this is often easily negated and ranger in itself doesn’t have enough CC to spend to strip stab due to critically needing it for kiting.
Glyph of Tides – Feels good, would be nice if this had an immobilization attached to it at the end.
Glyph of Rejuvenation – This feels very weak. I don’t think there is ever a reason to take this skill over other skills due to the fact of its low healing. Drastically improve the healing for this, also this share too much similarity to Healing Spring. We don’t need two skills that do the same thing, both being very ineffective.
Glyph of Unity – this skill is nearly worthless to use as an elite. The damage it provides is minimal and almost unnoticeable, this is also easily to remove if you go stealth or they go stealth it removes, or if you leave range it removes. This should deal a lot more damage and not get removed so easily.

Traits

I really have no complaints about any of the traits outside of some of the radius should be moved up to 360 for Grace of the Land, Celestial Shadow, Cultivated Synergy and Primal Echoes. The traits have the potential to have a lot of synergy with power builds, though it offers little to nothing for condi builds.

no weapon should 1 hit kill on a 6 second CD, it will be nerfed, its bugged atm.

zinkz.7045:

Kidel.2057:

Bunker druid is not easy at all to kill. Pretty sure it can endure any 1vs1.

Erm, no bunker spec is easy to kill, especially 1v1, that is rather a requirement of being a bunker spec…

If you look at the best bunkers they are also able to deal decent damage, something the ranger can’t do when druid bunk. Furthermore, even if they go zerker, with all the new sustain the dps builds of other classes get, they will struggle to get enough dps to win those fights as well.

lxghostxl.5097:

Sandzibar.5134:

Core ranger issues dont come under druid issues.

And you dont HAVE to use the elite.

However

We do HAVE to get some development time on core Ranger issues too. So it is on par with some of the ludicrous sheet the other classes ( and their Elites) can pull off.

Ive seen some insane stuff (boon stacking and DPS) done by Engy(Scrapper), Mesmer(Chrono), Rev, Necro(Reaper) on streams over the weekend. The same sort of stuff that made Roy instantly nerf WHaO.

The core ranger is a bit ok right now since most players got use to it. I think they should focus on the future of druids because that is the theme of this expansion and what we paid for.. now players that I know are saying it is quite not as challenging as before since now in pvp/pve we have a class that is focused on heals and tons off buffer so it no one can die as long as they keep this cycle. before most players are based on timing, good decision making for play style and now its just broken and there is no other way to play a Druid other than heal or not. I suggested that we get some other buff or debuff and some DPS more like a support dps class like everyone else so we do not break the balance of no requirements for a healer. I know there are other players that can do party buff but that doesnt mean we can have a unique one or just get rid of the stability stacking but leave the might buff. Druid skills on glyphs should also add some nature theme and what I mean is like, earth armor on elementalist, some elemental aura that adds a unique element like aura of the Light, while activated out going damage have the chance to burn or take out a buff. aura of the Night that could randomly add offensive Condition damage. there are options and I do not understand how we end up with this healer class…

The core ranger is NOT ok, do not spread these lies. The druid is bound to how well the core ranger is in multiple ways. Want to be more supportive? look at spirit issues. Want a useful pet? Look at how critically bad the pets in both pvp and pve. The core ranger is in bad state (worst core of any of the 8 atm) this will drastically effect how good the druid is, and the potential for build diversity.

Kidel.2057:

LughLongArm.5460:

LoL, I was palying it yesterday, and while doing Okittenpt trying to convince myself I’m getting improvemnts to my build but actually my old build is probably stronger in many spects. So ya, I think litle bufss and twiks are required, if its getting nerfed, I guss i’m back to WS,NM,BM.

Lol dude, http://imgur.com/rUAMaID
900k heal. 3 seconds to load Celestial Avatar. I give you that Druid is not good for dungeons (top kek), but in almost every other game type it’s OP.

No other healer is nearly close to it. So either nerf Druid or buff the others, since I don’t want a game where there is only 1 healer and it’s required. Raids being my top worry here.

They are good at healing, and will probably even be great in pug pvp, but if you get a group that is some what competent at pvp than that druid will be killed relatively fast. Druid has access to limited stun break in most specs, Quicken Zypher and Lightning Reflexes are probably what most rangers would use, and limited stab, Strength of the pack and Signet of the Wild which I think no healer focused druid would take. Assuming they do, both are on 60 sec CD making them not reliable enough. So if a team just quickly focuses the druid it will die relatively fast.

With all this sad, Druid is pretty good in wvw zergs assuming it can get stab from the guardians in the zerg.

Sandzibar.5134:

With the failure to get raids working might be an idea for them to have another beta in the next 2 weeks before live surely?

Would be, but I wouldn’t count on it.

No more beta events this was the last one. As for how soon will druid fixes come? Using ranger core as a past example would be never for major issues(wish I was kidding), minor issues might be fixed in a few months, for anything that is powerful expect within the week.

Druid as a healer won’t see use in dungeons or most pve outside of potentially raids (this is yet to be seen), in pvp you might see druids but since they are really easy to CC and spike kill they won’t be a staple but you might see them a bit more as a healer. For WvW they seem to do well in zergs if they can get stab.

As a trait line, druid goes really well with power ranger. Though not so much with condi ranger which is rangers top dps in pve. Furthermore druid does nothing to address the issues that make rangers not viable in pvp as a dps class and that is pets. HoT is going to blow this up further as an even bigger issue now that most classes are receiving large amounts of sustain in dps specs which a zerker ranger cannot burst through.

I think adding a pulsing stability would be nice for druid on one of the grand master traits, grace of the land perhaps. Its a really required thing for druids.

The druid is pretty solid for what it does, but what this weekend spotifies when you compare all classes now is just how bad the ranger actually is, compared to any class the ranger falls very short of in spvp. It now has a single track use in wvw, and in pve it is still sub par (raids excluded as I couldn’t test there)

Anyone who thinks the staff is required to get into cele form doesn’t have a clear understanding of ranger or druid mechanics yet. With that said you can prep getting into cele with Troll Unguent in fact, you should now be using this heal much earlier than normal I am starting to do it around 90% hp to fill up the cele it takes 2 to fully fill up the bar so you should be using your heal as soon as you spawn.

While the healing aspect of druids is nice, core ranger still suffers. Rangers are in an even worse spot now then they ever have been. Compared to other classes that for the most part all saw their sustain increase with little difference or an improve to their dps ranger core now is absurdly under powered.

SB is a condi bow, and LB is a power bow. I doubt any build would use these two effectively.

After playing with the druid I believe it will find a lot of spots within various different druid builds BUT with every class getting access to a lot of sustain and/or high dps threshholds you are going to see just how poorly designed the rangers are. As is right now the ranger cannot deal enough dps to beat certain berzerker builds sustain… This is a serious issue.

The biggest issue these betas should be high lighting and going into HoT will high light just how bad the ranger really is. We have no real burst ability, with every class not gaining access to really good sustain there are certain elite specs we can’t beat ever unless they mess up or it is a 2v1. Scrapper/Rev/Reaper have an insane amount of sustain in berzerker gear and in some causes our DPS will never be able to out damage it (Scrapper/Rev).

Core Ranger needs buffs, and it needs buffs now. Sadly devs won’t fix this though, they don’t listen to this community nor care about it.

For me it would be from best to worst:
Chrono
Scrapper
Herald
Reaper
Berzerker
Druid
Dragon Hunter
Dare Devil
Tempest

Rizo.9534:

Kitty.1502:

Silv.9207:

That youtube videos is old and the pet AI was fixed a lot with the last patch, making things like that no more happen (or just sometimes).

Anyway, if the skill is the one mentioned before (pet skill 3-4), the only way to evade it is dodge/block/immune because it’s a multi-teleport attack that hit’s a lot of times.

if that skill hit every time for 3k the total damage on a single target can be higher than 21k, in 2 seconds.
It’s a little too much also for a full buffed pet, don’t you think?
And it’s not even the activated skill, that skill cna be the one that hit you for 10k.
Activated+pet skill = 31k in 3-4 seconds?
That has not to happen.

Those youtube videos aren’t old, I personally made them last night. As you can see I was a druid when I made them.

Every Necromancer have good imagination.

Indeed, pets are really bugged and can’t hit target.
New pet can teleport to target and hit it after teleport.
People have to prepare, because all pets hit that hard, just they can’t hit atm because of bad AI, and if AI will be fixed, whole world will feel PowerOfRangers.

PS. I hope so

Actually pets generally don’t hit that hard, most hit between 500~1k only in specific situations will they hit over.