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Flipping on the TP, 300 to 450g easily in a week.
Good, then the Manifesto was a lie… because they clearly said GW2 would be different from other MMOs, and I believed. nice to know.
Nice edit on my post title, Mr. Mod….. way to turn around the main issue here.
To all those wondering: the only reason I have spent so much time is that I got a shoulder surgery on late August, and my main occupation is playing Rugby. Since I am not allowed to do so, I am working monetizing my Blog through the computer, and thus I have it on almost 24/7. I have GW2 open at all times, which doesn’t mean I am actively playing it at all times.
Sometimes it feels like people take criticism personally here. I am simply asking for suggestions to combat the lack of incentive to play.
I played GW1 for over 6k hours on the course of 7 years. I was a youngster with no occupation and only played it, and it had incentives to keep you playing despite you getting the max gear within less than 24 hours. So no, I am not asking for a gear treadmill.
But this is a MMO and people excuses are that it shouldn’t have replayability. Hell, why don’t we implement a weekly reset on the characters then? Your argument makes no sense. And I bet most people bashing at me without even knowing my personal life have spent the same or even more time than me in the game, and just haven’t accomplished to much.
I am hoenstly disappointed with this community. I left GW2Guru because of the godawuful community which reminded me of World of Warcraft, and I see the same behavior here…. and yet people call themselves mature.
To all those who sent an adult and non-aggressive suggestions, thanks so much. I am actually playing only 1 hour/day right now to support my guild on WvW, which is entirely dominated by another server due to the awesome balance system…
Cheers,
Knuckle
What would you prefer? Taking 33% less damage from two 500 dmg hits or taking 100% less damage from a 5k hit?
I am complaining that the option which makes me survive is a wood stick instead of a big shield.
I’d prefer my party taking 33% less damage for the duration, actually. I’m pretty freaking tough. /flex
Except that the cone isn’t reliable since some NPC can steal one of the 5 protections, or you can die while trying to position yourself by taking the 5k hit to the face. And then even if you succeed on applying the Protection to your entire party, someone will still receive a 3.5k hit to the face.
I am sorry but you are trying so hard to prove the Shield is useful that you are ignoring simple common sense.
Borderlands 2 cost me $60 and I got 3.4 hours out of it and I’ve not really felt compelled to do more. Now that’s disappointment.
I agree with this. I REALLY got my money worth of GW2. My concern is for the replayability of the game, tho.
The DEs do not scale when you are 80. You have no point of going back to a level 30 map after completing it, unless you are helping someone.
I thought this was going to be something that GW2 would to differently.
Protection from #4 lasts 5 seconds. That is barely 2 swings from the common attack animations.
It’s interesting you complain about the duration of protection when the duration of Shield of Wrath is actually one second shorter. So exactly how often are you getting those three blocks, anyway?
What would you prefer? Taking 33% less damage from two 500 dmg hits or taking 100% less damage from a 5k hit?
I am complaining that the option which makes me survive is a wood stick instead of a big shield.
Personally I’ve enjoyed my time at 80 so far by doing things for fun every now and then.
Please, how do you have fun doing something you have done 30 times while leveling and completing the map 100%?
Also, I am not and will not make a Legendary. The skins are lackluster and certainly do not worth the time spent farming upward to 5m karma depending entirely on your luck.
And then you miss combat stats which makes every encounter take twice as long. Then you have the anti-farm code. And finally you notices MF is not worth the effort at all, and go flip on the TP to afford your things.
My story.
First of all, this is not a flame or troll post and if you have nothing insightful to add, I ask you to simply not reply. This is a constructive criticism to the current game design and I KNOW it is too early to judge, but I feel like writing this.
I have put a little over 250 hours in the game now, playing with my old Guild all the way and this is my story:
I reached level 80, got a full exotic set with the stats I wanted, then transmuted the skins I wanted into it. Then I got the exotic weapons that I wanted and also transmuted it with the skins I wanted (corrupted, about 20g or endless hours grind). Then after completing the story quest, I went on to explore the world and got 100% map completion. I also completed all the jumping puzzles and whatnot.
Then I started playing the market to pile on Gold so I can afford keeping my Guild at WvW and fully equipping my future characters. I managed to make 300g within 3 or 4 days, it is really simply for anyone who have any idea of how a market works. Then I jumped into sPvP and tournaments for a while. Then I leveled all the crafting professions to 400.
…. what is left to do? The game seriously lack incentive for you to keep playing once you achieve your basic goals. Your level 80 character has absolutely no use other than being another number on WvW. I got the gear I wanted, the skin I wanted, the full map completion, puzzle jumps, I have a fortune in Gold which I use on the 1 hour I log in daily for WvW – which is by the way heaviliy 1 sided on my server so it is absolutely unfun…
There is simply nothing else to do. Dynamic Events get old and boring after you do each of them 3 times, Dungeons are ultimately pointless and too little reward for too much effort (after you get the skins) and then you have WvW and sPvP left, both with abysmal balance issues which turns it unfun to many players, including me.
I have no will to level a second character to 80 again, first because 100% world completion really burns you out and then because I already have one maxed out character… and it feels dull.
I had lots of fun in GW2 through the leveling process, but I don’t see how it would be fun to do the same things with another set of skills.
Bottom line: the game seriously lacks any form of incentives for you to keep playing once you hit the cap. Why would I do another DE if I don’t need gold, karma and if it is ultimately unfun because I have done it 4 times already? I really got my $60 worth of fun, I really did, but I fear for the longevity of the game on the current scheme of things. You have nothing to aim for. Nothing rewards you. Unbalances keep you away from sPvP and WvW.
This is just how I feel right now and I REALLY would like to find a reason to keep playing, but now I simply login to collect my Gold on the market… which I have no use for.
And before anyone else says this: I did not sped through content or rushed it in any ways. I played about 6 hours daily which I think is comparatively short to the average MMO player.
Thoughts? Insights? Suggestions? I am all ears…
Cheers,
Knuckle
Nice edit on my post title, Mr. Mod….. way to turn around the main issue here.
To all those wondering: the only reason I have spent so much time is that I got a shoulder surgery on late August, and my main occupation is playing Rugby. Since I am not allowed to do so, I am working monetizing my Blog through the computer, and thus I have it on almost 24/7. I have GW2 open at all times, which doesn’t mean I am actively playing it at all times.
Sometimes it feels like people take criticism personally here. I am simply asking for suggestions to combat the lack of incentive to play.
I played GW1 for over 6k hours on the course of 7 years. I was a youngster with no occupation and only played it, and it had incentives to keep you playing despite you getting the max gear within less than 24 hours. So no, I am not asking for a gear treadmill.
But this is a MMO and people excuses are that it shouldn’t have replayability. Hell, why don’t we implement a weekly reset on the characters then? Your argument makes no sense. And I bet most people bashing at me without even knowing my personal life have spent the same or even more time than me in the game, and just haven’t accomplished to much.
I am hoenstly disappointed with this community. I left GW2Guru because of the godawuful community which reminded me of World of Warcraft, and I see the same behavior here…. and yet people call themselves mature.
To all those who sent an adult and non-aggressive suggestions, thanks so much. I am actually playing only 1 hour/day right now to support my guild on WvW, which is entirely dominated by another server due to the awesome balance system…
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Protection from #4 lasts 5 seconds. That is barely 2 swings from the common attack animations.
I disagree on the Shield being situational, however. On any situation the Focus will outshine the Shield. If you have more mobs on you, Focus #5 completely decimates everything. SoA knockback IS NOT reliable for any kind of fight, and against ranged enemies you are much better off popping Reflection. 40 seconds CD, 10 seconds duration, REFLECTS ranged attacks.
Enough said.
Yes Arken, you are. His level 12 Guardian never died. NOT EVEN ONCE. Must clearly be OP, silly pie.
You contradict yourself, first you say you done successful runs and wants to share, and then you say the build is not tested yet?
Furthermore, GS and sword are useless to this build due to offering 0 utility to the team. Retreat is useless doing Dungeons since it is a closed space, Stand Your Ground you benefit your team MUCH more. Svanir runes are less than optimal, it doesn’t serve any purpose. Your stats distribution says you are a DPS but your build says you are a support.
No offense but this doesn’t seems good at all. Thanks for the effort tho.
Now I am sure that most people arguing here that the Shield is viable and a perfectly OK weapon do NOT play Guardian.
The guy said Focus is a much worse and utterly useless weapon compared to the Shield’s uber defense. Let’s do simple math over here:
With shield, you get a 5 seconds protection on a cone which may never hit the person you intend it to because of how mobile fights are – on a 30 seconds CD. Then you have a bubble which has a 75% of missing the knockback because most of end game mobs cannot be hit by knocks, and then it is useless. If it hits the knock, it is also useless because the mob will just walk in it and hit you in the face since you are planted on the ground. 4 seconds duration, 40 seconds CD, meaningless heal.
NOW, to the Focus: you have a AoE blind/regen which can hit up to 4 foes/friends. On a 25 seconds CD. Blind will make the enemy COMPLETELY miss his next attack, which could be a 4 seconds charged swing to your face. It also heals allies for a substantial amount. And the icing is that it also removes conditions. Right, then you got Shield of Wrath, whose cooldown of 45 seconds is justified by its effect: COMPLETELY NEGATES the next 3 attacks against you. If the shield isn’t destroyed, it does one of the most powerful AoE dmg of the game.
How. On. Earth. the shield has more defense than the focus? Please? Someone enlight me, I have played my Guardian only 254 hours. If the Shield is a better defensive weapon than the Focus then I must have overlooked something really big right.
I don’t see why people are taking this personally. The shield is a well known terrible offhand, just as the scepter is an awful ranged weapon. Why some people insists and denies it, going against common sense? Have you played Guardian long enough? Are you over level 40 yet?
I don’t mean to be rude, but some comments here are unreal.
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Ynna do you even play Guardian or you simply like to be against common sense?
5 seconds protection, to a cone in front of you, on a 30 seconds CD and a 4 seconds bubble with ridiculous knockback on a 40 seconds CD. Do you think the shield is really viable? Common sense, please.
I have crafted the GS and Shield – the particle effects aren’t even close to Corrupted weapons. It gets like a thin smoke out of the weapon, which is made of volcanic rock. Very lackluster.
Then increase hit box for the Asura race as well, because Norns are in a clearly disadvantage for being aimed much easier.
Kousei, the only reason you think the shield is amazing is because, as you said, you NEVER took it off and always use it. If you use the Focus for 5 minutes you will never go back to the shield, because it offers more survivability, utility and damage.
The utility of SoA is FAR, FAR from unmatched and SoJ protection is not free, it takes one weapon skill slot. Both of these offer way too little utility and defence for such a abysmal cooldown duration.
On almost the same cooldown (elite skill), warrior have 30 seconds swiftness, fury and might. Now to warrior’s shield. #4 stuns enemies and does significant damage, on a 25 seconds cooldown. #5 makes you block ALL incoming attacks for x period – on a 30 seconds cooldown.
Warrior and Guardian shields are meant to have different uses – while guardians offers more party wide utility, warriors offer more OVERALL utility and unmatched defense while you have threat on you.
Simplifying: The problem is the CD on the Guardian shield skills is awful. The duration of the bubble is laughable since it doesn’t even reflects. Protection being a cone and not AoE like shouts, is stupid. Furthermore, the Focus is a superior offhand in every way.
Thanks everyone for your thoughts – apparently the sentiment of Shield being subpar is dominant and spread among the Guardian community just as I thought.
The main problem I see here is, even though the CDs of shield and focus being almost the same, when you use the Focus abilities you can effectively turn tables, recover from near death and deny a HUGE amount of damage. blind, regen, block – this sounds like something a shield would do, right. Now when you go back to the shield, you have a lackluster cone protection buff with awful, AWFUL damage and a FOUR seconds bubble which doesn’t even reflects projectiles. Both on a way too long CD for what it offers.
As I said, besides the CD being comparable to some Elite skills, there are also utilities which makes the job of those skills but 10x better – wall of reflection REFLECTS the projectiles, creates a combo field and lasts 10s if not traited. 15 seconds if traited. On the same CD or lower if traited.
I mean… really?
The reason of this topic was to get attention of the Staff, since I saw them giving attention to a fair amount of posts regarding class balance. I hope we can achieve this.
Ynna…. the protection isn’t AoE, it is on a cone in front of you. The damage isn’t AoE either, and is just terrible. The knockback distance is less than half a leap (320) and the heal is lackluster to say the least.
And you are forgetting those are on a 30 and 40 seconds CD. Warriors got a godmode signet on 48 seconds CD lol, AND IT IS A ELITE SKILL, just throwing a little comparison. so you can theorize less and start actually seeingthe reality of the game.
I kindly ask those who doesn’t have anything to contribute to this thread, to simply not post.
For those Guardians who do like the Shield, I agree it can be a good weapon and that is one of the reasons I use it, besides just looks. But the CDs are awfully long for TOO LITTLE. I can offer party wide protection and regen with Save Yourselves! on a 28secs CD.
Hammer offers AOE PROTECTION permanently if you trait for symbols. The shield #4 offers a cone wide protection which is abysmal if you are intended to be in melee range using it.
Honestly, I know GW2 has MANY fanboys and that is the primary reason I left Gw2Guru. Please only post if you have any insights on the subject.
I use the staff just because. It is a melee range support weapon, so I couple it with mace/shield for my build.
Far from optimal, but I like it. I run with a tight group on voice chat, so I consistently heal and apply might to everyone, as well as swiftness and condition removal/area retaliation.
I never use auto attack or #5 tho.
I clearly stated in my post that Shield is MAYBE useful in sPvP. I am not denying that. I am not denying either that some people like using the shield, but what YOU can’t deny is that the shield is simply subpar to any other offhand. Focus offers more defense and survivability, torch of course, more control, and if you want even more control you simply grab the Hammer.
It seems that some people take personal the constructive criticism to game mechanics. The shield being subpar and awful is not subjective, it is very clear and obvious. A 4 seconds bubble on a 40 seconds CD and a 5 seconds protection buff on a 30 seconds CD. Given most pve encounters last 1/5 of this time, those skills are ultimately useless.
It is like saying the new hammer trait made the Hammer a whole new awesome weapon… because of a CHANCE to apply chill with a 45secs internal CD… come on guys, I am trying to make the game better and enjoyable to everyone.
No, shield was not given a nice buff when they merged traits. The trait should be like that since the start, like warriors had/have.
No one uses the trait anyway, merged or un-merged. it is simply sub-par – you will really waste a master slot on +90toughness and 20% cooldown reduction? Guardians already have naturally high armor, this alone makes the trait useless. No one uses this trait whatsoever because it is pointless.
The protection given by #4 isn’t group protection, you have to hit all your team with it, since it is a cone in front of you. Since you are in front line anyway, this skill is subpar at best – I see it as plain useless.
The above suggestions would definitely make the Shield a viable and useful weapon. At the moment, it is more a theme and decorative weapon, because its impact on gameplay is minimal at best.
I use the shield for theme purposes, really. The Corrupted shield is awesome skin-wise.
I think they’re almost fine… sure, other offhands are more offensive oriented, but that’s the point of the shield, playing defensively.
A protection buff for 5 secs every 30 greatly reduces damage if it’s consistent (when fighting hordes and hordes for example), and the AoE is… regular.
The 5th skill is where it shines in my opinion, the knockback is in a huge area, meaning you could buy time to save someone, or just absorb a huge projectile, and can also AoE heal for a nice amount (1600~ for me at 80 and I have 19000 health).Though I don’t use a Shield anymore, but that has nothing to do with the Shield itself. It’s just that a Greatsword is unmatchable for any of the 1H + OH combos we have…
I don’t think you ever played with a Shield to say things like that. The protection buff for 6 seconds every 30 is useless when I can just keep protection permanently with a hammer. Moreover, the damage isn’t even close to regular, it does HALF a autoattack damage.
The knockback on skill 5 is FAR from huge, the distance is 320. It is laughable at best. And with that healing you must be stocked in healing power, because at 300 healing power I can barely see its effect.
And not all offhands are meant for offensive purposes, see Focus. I don’t see any reasonable reason to pick a shield over focus for anything else that isn’t wall defense in wvw, which I don’t even do anymore due to abysmal server balance.
The added defense doesnt help?
No it does not. I already have over 3k armor due to toughness, the extra defense isn’t even meaningful. Even if my toughness was low, it would be useless anyway. It gives about 50 defense lol.
Basically that. NO ONE else uses shields, because currently it is so abysmal and terrible compared to any other offhand. The cooldowns are HUGE and for such long cooldowns you would expect the skill to be meaningful, but
- - 6 seconds protection (30 virtues) for up to 5 allies on a cone in front of you, plus half auto attack damage. 30 seconds cooldown.
- - 4 seconds bubble which ABSORBS (does not reflect, absorbs) projectiles and knock back foes by less than half a leap distance. Pitiful heal. 40 seconds cooldown.
I am not asking for a buff here, I am asking for a fix. The shield is not remotely close to viable on daily situations such as dungeons and Orr. Its only use is on WvW wall defense, by shielding the arrow carts for FOUR seconds. And then you are useless again, because Guardians doesn’t even have a viable ranged weapon – but that is another topic. Also it MIGHT be useful in sPvP, but then again, you have undeniable better choices for either control or defense.
Thoughts? Critics? Suggestions? I am all ears. Ask anything to the only Guardian wearing shield in Isle of Janthir.
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If anyone else finds what this thread is about please let me know and I will be eager to join the discussion.
I hope they will never remove Aegis visual effect, I like it a lot.
It doesn’t look bad on you either. :/
I hope they do not remove it, but at least give us an option to turn it off. The effect looks cool on plain shields with no textures or drawns but it just clips through and blurs other more prestigious shields.
So, after throwing my weekend away farming to craft Corrupted Bulwark, I finally got it.. and it is AMAZING. Only problem is that the Aegis effect absolutely screws up the skin. For those who likes to collect rare and prestigious skins like I do, this is a huge deal.
Picture:
http://i50.tinypic.com/bjbvon.jpg
Discuss.
Yes. 2 conditions every 10 seconds.
Roll Warrior or Engineer?
Guardian is my main and only class, I do not plan on re rolling just to get the most out of a prestigious skin.
I think it gives a nice glowy effect to it, but I can understand your opinion may differ.
The problem is that it completly hides Jormag’s face on the Shield. The glowy effect around the shield is natural of it, the Aegis is just the outlines inside the shield. It clips through the skin and it looks hideous in my opinion….
Might look good using a plain shield with no texture..
So, after throwing my weekend away farming to craft Corrupted Bulwark, I finally got it.. and it is AMAZING. Only problem is that the Aegis effect absolutely screws up the skin. For those who likes to collect rare and prestigious skins like I do, this is a huge deal.
Picture:
http://i50.tinypic.com/bjbvon.jpg
Discuss.
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