Guild Wars 2

Morningstar.6208:

Devona doesn’t have more players we just have less fair weather players that leaves WvW when they lose. That I wouldn’t tell why because that’s what makes us special.

I’ll save this quote for later.

-K

Calos.1350:

But what dred and others are saying is that everytime DR starts winning we hear the same kitten

At some point when enough people tell you the same thing, it should start ringing true.

-K

Cactus.2710:

Why neither AR nor NSP don’t take more advantage of situations where DR is preoccupied with the other server is beyond me. There’s more to this game than simply complaining about population imbalances.

Have you seen the score?

Tactics and smart play go out the window when your behind by as much as we are.

-K

Laiboch.4380:

I still love how every server DR has gone against has always had people saying the same false things.

DR is a zerg server…

DR has a huge population.

Um what?

You complain that we complain and then backup that we are correct in that you have a huge pop.

You are winning because you can field more than we can over the course of a 24 hour day. Plain and simple. Skill doesn’t come into play until you reach tier 4.

-K

Breaken.7950:

Is it just me or does every post by one of the {GOAT} members make you feel like they are just bad sports and feel that they need to prove something… Its like the one obnoxious person in Spvp that enters a cap 4v1 and then when he dies starts spamming in /say chat that " You all suck took 4 to kill 1 … NOOBS!"
I mean what did they expect 3 of the 4 people to say " Oh its just one person lets all leave so it makes the fight fair".

It’s not just you. We put up with it for weeks. After a while it becomes comical.

-K

@ Dovgan. That would require that A-net pay someone to pay attention. Which clearly they aren’t.

As for Robs notes.

Tier 5.

BP lost a huge guild in KREW and will likely lose more before weeks end. They really only posed a threat in T5 when they had the first weeks momentum. Now that reality has settled in they are posing little threat to who ever drops from T4.

DR will discover that their advantage in the lower tiers , wv3 pop., will not help them in T5.

T6.

Its really hard to gauge Dark Haven. They lost more guilds to DB, 3 weeks ago they would have put up a good fight as did NSP. Right now its a guessing game, as we don’t know how many more will leave before weeks end.

AR and GoM should put up a good fight as they are equally matched @ prime time.

-K

RockonHarder.7235:

every server need’s to have it’s moment to be humble hopefully BP will take something from this and become a stronger server for it.

AR though are getting stomped by a server that was the bottum tier for the last 3 months. they might need a bit more time.

DR has numbers on us and that’s all. They are winning because NSP no longer belongs in this Tier and can’t even defend its own BLs.

Funny thing happened on the way to Yak’s Bend.

BP tripped over its hubris and found itself outmatched.

-K

After spending 3 weeks in Tier 5, Borlis Pass has begun to fall apart. Next week DR hits T5 and I give them about 3 weeks before the infighting starts and guilds start to jump ship.

Enjoy this week, it may be your last week on top.

-K

Plok.6145:

Everywhere you go is just a giant zerg of DB.

/popcorn

nom nom nom

check it again on Thursday.. It’s predictions are based on current score/point accumulation.

-K

man.. you DR boys are some drama queens. 1 guy gets banned and everyone comes here to cry.

man.. you DR boys are some drama queens. 1 guy gets banned and everyone comes here to cry.-K

TheFreshBrew.1958:

And one other thing, Ehmery Bay, you obviously want our keep, we’ve been outmanned all day, just come and take it already … I think DH is tired of the whole thing.

And after you take it, don’t do any dancing and gesturing once we give a half-kitten attempt to take it back. Because, really, your victory doesn’t really mean anything to us.

just last week BP was asking for a rematch with Emery Bay. What changed?

-K

Morningstar.6208:

Well WTH… In middle of fight in EB I got DCed after a 13 hour WvW with this message.

Happy early Xmas break.

;)

-K

score update.

hmm… I get back from the “Hobbit” and find DR is leading . 10pm CSt. night is still young.

Knock Knock

The Anvil is coming..

DR you might wanna come defend your BLs.

Devona’s in the lead.

Match of the Apocalypse.

Let’s all have fun and enjoy X-mas.

-K

SF is big on PvE. Holiday events kills their Wv3 pop.

-K

Then you might wanna take the week off, with HoD and SF in that tier, you might stumble into T5 by accident.

;)

If GoM drops down a Tier, they can leap frog this Tier with a good 200 point match.

-K

No. Just making a point that the BP crew that is racking up all the points isn’t the same group that is getting rolled by DB. Maybe they got tired of it and decided to take a few nights off.

-K

@ Rob and @LOLO.

I’m not complaining about Day capping , i’m just breaking down the score and how each server is making its points.

So each server can make adjustments if it wants to make a push for first, Anv and GOM.

Do I need to start putting smiley faces in my posts?

:)

PS: and to the point I was making the first time . If it was up to prime time, it would be close with NSP coming in 3rd.

Of course its the holidays to it all may change come next year.

Celeras.4980:

I love it haha. “NSP wins because of night crew and loses during primetime”, then someone comes in and posts data which shows AVs peak score at 5am daily and NSP dominating the day.

Foot meet mouth.

Look at closer my friend. It was me that said that NSP is being carried by its night and day crew.

Look at NSP peaks.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/42

NSP: 10am, 1pm, 8am,9am,noon

that same graph will show you that at the 8pm mark NSP point tally is going down compared to ANV.

The bulk of NSP points are accumulated over the early morning and daytime shifts.

Both GOM and ANV make up ground during prime time hours, 8pm-4am adjusting for timezone.

ANV night crew 12am-6am seems to be putting us ahead of GoM this match.

Like it or not that’s how this match has gone this week.

-K

nytehex.3267:

why yes, yes we were. however, somewhere over the last 36 hours, our night prescence decided to not play, so our 20K lead turned into a 13K deficit as of an hour ago. I’m really not happy about it, but I can’t do much since I’ve worked the last 2 days and I sleep at night.

Maybe they got tired of getting steamrolled. I mean they are the ones fighting DB during their prime time.

-K

Wasn’t BP supposed to win this match?

-K

DR will get a chance to leap frog T6 if they stay in T7 and pull another 200 point gain.

If GoM gets 2nd place, it just means both AR and GoM stay in T6.

-K

/raincheck

Maybe after the holidays.

@ Coolmoos

Except that your first week long match started in Tier 8.

@ Coolmos.

You just have to figure it hits everyone equally. We’ll see after the event.

-K

From what I’ve observed over the past week.

During NA Primetime – 6pm 12am , NSP comes in third with AV and GOM making it a good fight for first.

During the weekend its a very close match, NSP never had a lead above 10k.

During off-peak hours Night and day crews, NSP pulls ahead during the week, M-F.

So right now NSP’s off peak crews are carrying it this match. If AR and GOM want to make a push for 1st they will need to focus on NSP as much as they can to keep their off peak lead from getting out of reach.

Too late for this match but something to think about for next week.

-K

Morningstar.6208:

Anvil Rock don’t drop the ball! Get your self together and attack GoM!

We’re doing our part. NSP is slacking.

sounds like A, week long match ups it is.

Thanks.

Come to think about it.

GW2 is the first MMO I’ve played that has a stealth class , with no stealth detection mechanic available to counter stealth kitten

so yea.. the current mechanics behind stealth are a gamebreaker for some.

-K

Roargathor.2743:

Draygo.9473:

Anet has been very clear that WvW uses PvE stats and gear…

Yeah well since they had no problem introducing more vertical progression with the ascended garbage, I don’t see why they can’t just make gear/levels not matter in WvW like it is in Spvp. That would fix allot of issues.

Ego.

Admitting that the current implementation of Wv3 is poor would hurt a developers ego. It would take a very big man to admit that their vision of Wv3 has failed or could have been better implemented.

-K

@ Jeknar

You are attempting to justify what is commonly known in the gaming world as “poaching” .

You are essentially stealing from someone else.

-K

If they just allowed the sPvP characters to play in Wv3 this would be a non issue. No more gear disparity.

Syeria.4812:

Oh look, no one has offered a single coherent argument as to why non-week long matchups should count. What a surprise!

/yawn

Feel free to be the first to make the argument that they should.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Settle-a-debate-for-us-Wv3-Rankings/first#post1043407

Syeria.4812:

As for not using the 24 hour and 3 day matchups as reference points, there’s only one reason anyone would ever make that distinction, because it somehow makes their argument look better. There’s no logical reason to discount those matchups.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Settle-a-debate-for-us-Wv3-Rankings/first#post1043407

Sept. 14th was the first week long match-up.

There is a little debate going on in our match-up thread and I was looking to get some outside input.

When making the following statement: “My server was a Tier 1 , Tier 2 server”

Do we :

A- Consider only the week long matches as reference.

B- Consider the 3 day and 24 hour matches as reference.

Thanks
-K

Rob.7624:

I’ve conferred with guildies over it and they agreed with me that we were for a short time up in tier 2, I do indeed remember clearly fighting Henge and BlackGate at the same time. Not in Beta.
No one has stated that what I said was in Beta testing. I definitely didn’t.

Before the week long matches there were 3 day matches.

Before the 3 day matches there were 24 hour long matches.

Those were used by Anet as a means to gather data and tweak their ranking system. Every server was at one point matched up with one another as a means to gather data.

It is very possible that you were matched up against HoD or Blackgate, but nobody uses those matches as a means of ranking as most major guilds/servers were busy leveling in order to get ready for the two week matches, yes the one week matches were supposed to be 2 week matches.

-K

@Rob and @ @ Syeria

Nobody uses the 24 hour and 3 day matches as a means of ranking. Everyone recognized that those were being used by Anet as data gathering for their ranking.

Starting with the week long matches/ranking. NSP has never been a top tier server. You started with us, Anvil Rock in Tier 7, we were actually matched up for 2 weeks straight. If you can’t remember this far back then you weren’t paying attention. NSP has always been a middle of the pack server, peaking @ Tier 5.

The facts are that every server has lost alliances and guilds. So making a long list of the trails and tribulations that your server has gone thru doesn’t make your plight any worse than ours.

And if you want to be brutally honest, thru all our troubles AR has risen in the ranks and NSP has fallen.

From the looks of things we’re going to be stuck with each other for while cuz I don’t see either of our servers moving up or down a tier anytime soon. So lets make the best of it.

-K

Score update. …

Score update.

Warlord Lu Bu.7905:

I’ve never seen such obvious double teaming as I have until today.

We have Darkhaven basically bending over for Dragonbrand, gifting them Stonemist while Darkhaven gains nothing. No wonder Darkhaven continues to lose WvW players.

Now I’m not crying about it, just pointing out an incredibly obvious fact. Some servers try to gain the most points, while I guess some prefer to be another server’s kitten.

Maybe next time Borlis Pass shows up in a new Tier they may not want to come in and kitten off the locals.

There is already a separate thread about how BP is expecting to walk thru this Tier and face off with EB or YB.

There are several posts in this very thread about how you expect to have an easy time in this Tier.

Simply put, you brought this on yourself and now your crying about it? Typical.

-K

score update.

Your still in Tier 8.

HoD and ET effectively created a Tier 9.

-K

Typical BP. How about you worry about your current match-up.

BTW. who’s winning your match ?

-K