Guild Wars 2

Ikarushka.9564:

What happened to Yak’s Bend last few days? They are 3rd now in the matchup

You mean what happened to CD?

alcopaul.2156:

one thing i notice, yaks and cd zergs are softies. nothing compared to what we had the chance to experience vsing maguuma zergs (e.g. DERP).

but still kaineng is at third place. close score though. so the matchup is balanced.

Apart from CNB or RE, haven’t really seen any “hard to kill” KN zergs. But yea, our guys do have quite a long way to go in terms of group compositions and zerg v zerg

I am quite surprised by CD’s NA time force. Great fights all around. Especially loved the fight in Bay in KNBL, CNB and KN put up a massive fight.

Demeter Aurion.7381:

Give me back my Yaks Bend enemies

Same here, I want to bask in the magswag

Also I like having the matchup thread with the most replies.

But really,

I would love to fight TC and Ehmry Bay again

SniffyCube.6107:

Quikmix.2518:

It’s a bit of a shame that the most evenly contested matchup (so far) this week has so few people commenting.

Just want to say that it was a blast rolling on CD this morning. YB put up a good outmanned fight at their keep.

Having a blast with this new matchup. i think it challenges the lower ranked servers to really play UP to their competition.

ain’t nobody got time for that

too busy fighting

QTF. Most exciting matchup in a long time.

Also gotta tip my hat to XF and HIS for their tenacity. That golem rush on our garrison was very close. Had to pull everyone from EBG to defend against that.

Tormented Gizka.8190:

Yeah, Yak’s Bend is a great WvW server. I spent a good long while there during the months of free server transfers, and though I did eventually migrate back to TC before free transfers ended, Yak’s will always hold a special place in my heart. In particular, I’d single out Rheayas and Spetrix as excellent commanders, though I don’t know if they’re still active.

But anyway. If I’d be anywhere else, it’d be Yak’s. (Honestly, there are days when I’d much rather be on Yak’s. TC’s a great community, too, but the WvW is very crowded and zergy.)

Funny you mentioned me, because I posted right above you lol. Thanks for the support!

And likewise, TC is still one of my favorites! I always guest there to PvE.

Try your hardest

I guest into TC when I want to level lowbies. Lots of people there and great PvE crowd.

Do you know how slow a treb rotates direction

Hint Hint

Also our Yak’s Bend Vintage Poster!

Johje Holan.4607:

Funny I was about to say they need to re-buff the nerfs to the buffs to the nerfs to the original AC’s from beta.

AC’s are worthless again. With the speed Golems can take down even T3 gates, AC damage to Golems needs to be re-buffed.

Golems can’t be portalled. Fixed!

You is not you. I was talking to Boonprot, originally.

Ofcourse, after getting kicked from D|ERP, I wouldn’t expect you to find Mags amazing

You are very wise, so I shall apply your advice to you.

GuardianOMS.8067:

When will people realize Bunzy is a troll that just likes to start massive flame wars and just ignore him? I mean, it’s okay for Jaeger to keep talking to him in-game, because they always have the best talks. But everyone else really needs to stop being drawn in by everything he says. Unless you want to get the thread closed.

Good Day.

Laurel
1 per day

Pristine relics

First get you character to level 10 fractal. Will take at least a day.
Then get 1 pristine relic a day
Getting more characters to level 10. Few more days
Getting those characters to level 20. A week
Then spending 8-10 hours a day to get 3-6 pristine relics a day

Conclusion

Getting a laurel takes 5 mins of work.
Getting pristine relics take weeks of preparation.

I agree that there should be some way for WvW players to pick the ring they want w/o doing fractals. But laurels are exactly where they should be. Apart from the rings. WvW players get their amulets faster then PvErs. Guild missions is for everyone. Tough luck if you don’t do it.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Of course they hop away, do you know what a karma train is/means?

Yes I do, but I was rather pointing out the fact that your server also isn’t as amazing as you think it is.

Boonprot.6274:

Farout.8207:

Respawn.6802:

Yak’s are a rare species of WvWer that have real jobs and come out after taking care of their grown up responsibilities to roll dollies and sentries.
They do not reside in their parent’s basement but originate from “the Real World”, a place where video games take second place to real life pursuits such as career, family, friends and the upkeep of their homes and other worldly possessions.
Though normally not fast enough to catch us as we are running away a few alpha hit squads do catch their prey and play bloody havoc on roamers and small teams trying to head to the latest Kain vs Mag zergfest/karma train.

Fixed it for you…

At some point you’ll have to stop using this broken excuse and realize that your server isn’t as amazing as you thought it was.

But it’s true. And most of yaks are PvErs as well, so the Southsun stuff isn’t helping. And honestly karma training with 60 people against paper keeps isn’t exactly noteworthy. Of course when defenders show up, Mags hop away to take more undefended targets.

Beachead.4127:

VOLKON.1290:

Beachead.4127:

I can’t explain it any more clearly. Others have too. Take out the fact that other systems are in place.. This is not a pure WvW way to get ascended gear. You have pure pve ways that do not require a time sensitive currency. But to obtain this gear in WvW solely, you have laurels.

Here’s the part that you can’t seem to grasp that is making your attempts at an explanation fail:

Laurels are not PvE only.

Laurels are obtained through dailies. Dailies can be accomplished both in PvE and WvW. Laurels are as WvW as they are PvE. It’s really that simply. On any given day, if I didn’t complete my daily in WvW (and I often did) then I completed it after leaving WvW briefly doing something that suppliments WvW, such as the gathering (for superior siege) or crafting (food, siege in the Forge, etc.).

Sigh, again laurels are time sensitive. I can only obtain 38-41 laurels a month. Why don’t fractal vendors require laurels?

Because the pristine relics themselves are time sensitive.

This thread is divided into people who took advantage of all the content and its rewards and those that didn’t. Simple as that.

Guild missions is PvE? Seriously? WvW/PvP guilds do it all the time for merits to buy banners and other upgrades FOR WvW.

As one of the leaders of the Yaks Bend Alliance, I request that [RE] look at Yak’s Bend

Like many have said before, Yaks and opposing servers alike, Yaks Bend is a solid T3 server primarily because of our strong cohesion and teamwork in our NA forces. We don’t have a lot of super huge organized WvW guilds, but what we do have is an organized SERVER with a strong community. We have one of the largest Latin American alliance on our server that works great with our NA contingent. We have been fighting Kaineng for a month and Yaks have nothing but the greatest admiration for them.

Personally, I don’t go into EBG much, but the times I do, I can see why [RE] is respected by many of ours and Mag’s guilds. I have been on Yak’s since day 1 and seen it rise from T6 to T3 without the help of fairweathers players or large transfers. We have had the same core group of dedicated players keeping our server relatively stable in T3.

If you are looking to help balance a tier rather than stack on the winners, or looking for a server with an unbreakable fighting spirit, Yak’s Bend is for you.

Feel free to contact me ingame. (Usually evening NA)

IGN – Rheayas

PS: Wherever you may go, I recommend sending a few early transfers to scout their server and community

I don’t get it. If people only WvW, and haven’t spent a single laurel. How the kitten do you not have 60-70+ saved up. Its been 4 months since laurels were introduced. Assuming even a 25% rate of daily completion, you would have atleast 40(monthly) +40(from dailies), 80 laurels. This just means that you really really suck at spending 5 mins to complete an easy quest.

Ectos are not exclusive to PvE, you can get them from WvW, and with the WvW chest we’ll know exactly how many.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Pendragon.8735:

The hilarious thing is if you have been doing your dailies and monthlies since the start, in lieu of crappy dungeon farming, and then buying ascended in the least expensive order, all you needed was accessories at this point, which actually became no cheaper. And still no backpack. Therefore you actually got ripped off as now all the things you bought are cheaper, but not what you don’t have yet. Somehow very predictable.

This, and just this. I’m not going to the fractals. I hate the eff’ing things. As of right now I want an ascended back piece and one more accessory for my main.

Guess exactly what items we can’t buy with badges?

Instead we get more guard skills and oil mastery and these skills are still character bound? We get infusions for 1% guard dmg/def, and those cost laurels too? Ok, WxP from a few more sources and a better rate too, but I didn’t see Ectos in the drop list for the WvW chests.

Combine this with the “LALALALALALALA, I CAN’T HEAR YOU” treatment we’re getting and I"m seriously not impressed.

Rares salvage into ectos -_-

Assuming all your ascended gear is through laurels, not counting back piece

For 3 characters

2 accessories (80×3 laurels),
2 rings( 70×3)
1 amulet (60x 3)
Total = 240+210+180 = 630 laurels

PvErs

They CHOOSE to grind fractals so they can negate the time cost of rings

Laurels 630-210 = 420 (10 months)

PvErs CHOOSE to do guild missions to negate some of the time cost of accessories.
( guild missions also can be done only on a weekly basis)

Accessories are 12 commendations x 2 accessories x 3 chars = 60

Assuming average of 4 commendations a week. To get 60 = 15 weeks or 3.5 months roughly

Laurels 420-240 = 180 ( 4.5 months roughly)

So PvErs who utilize all sources to get the ascended gear can expect 3 BiS characters in 4.5 months. Lets round it to 5.

PvPers

They get wvw chests with ascended gear for doing what they have been doing all this time, no extra effort.

Laurels 630-210 = 420 ( roughly 10 months)

Some* PvPers ignore guild missions and cry about time costs

TL:DR

Don’t expect to get the same item in the same time frame as others if you are not using all the opportunities that speed the process up.

AndrewSX.3794:

Wayland.3528:

The greens in the level chests are insulting. It should be rare and above or nothing.

Agreed.

Lvl 80 char, thousands kills in wvw, gaining ranks and reward is a greeenie?

Come on.

I can agree with that. They should have a daily guaranteed chest with rare like for the PvE Boss events

I meant the daily chest that gives the pristine relic, Xavi. You only get one per day per fractal level range

I’ll say it again for those who can’t read, as I said in my previous post.

Amulets and accessories are actually quicker to get on WvW. PvErs have to do 30 days worth of dailies to get them, while WvW players get them in 20 ( badge cost is inconsequential). The only thing PvE gets more of is rings, and thats when they do fractals. To balance this ANet gave us the WvW rank chests.

Guild missions are for people who CHOOSE to do them. PvE and PvP guilds alike do these.

The only valid point in this thread is the ability to PICK the ring you want within 10 fractal runs, which by the way are character bound (the fractal daily) . So you cant get all 10 pristine fractals in a day.

TainoFuerte.8136:

VOLKON.1290:

I got ascended gear as it became available to me. I kept up by being good at my mesmer.

Ok?

Are you agreeing or trying to refute my statement by insinuating that you can “keep up” simply by being good without BiS gear? I imagine then, that you often run around in WvW in whites, since to keep up one need only skill?

The difference between white and exotic is nowhere near exotic and ascended. You farmed for the ascended, good for you, so did I. But I wasn’t mad that I had to suffer through a dungeon. Why? because so did the other guys who had ascended. It was fair.

Junkpile.7439:

Atherakhia.4086:

LotuS.4378:

Terkov.4138:

Huh? What’s wrong? It’s FASTER than getting them in PvE. You need to do dailies (less than in pve), and they can be done in WvW easily.

Ppl will always cry lol.

WOW!

10 fractals = asc ring + posi from daily. vs 25 days

You get the possibilty for a ring from world xp too.

The only thing a WvWer doesn’t get is the ability to cash out 10 pristine fractals for a ring of their choice. In exchange for this, your items come at a discount in laurels.

The only other legitimate arugment anyone has is the backpiece, and since those can be crafted, you’re going to have a tough time winning that argument.

What you people need to realize is that you’re not entitled to anything. You shouldn’t be forgotten when the time comes to hand out loot, but you shouldn’t get it for free either.

PvE’rs now have a method to get ascended gear.
PvP’rs now have a method to get ascended gear.

While these 2 overlap slightly, you can still get your gear strictly from one way or the other in the next patch. If you want to get the gear at a reasonable pace, you’ll have to work for it. It’s not going to be handed to you.

You kill mobs in fractal and get rings (lot’s of them). I kill enemies in www and won’t get rings. Doesn’t sound fair to me.

I don’t see PvErs asking for badges of honors while killing risen for their Gift Of Battle.

Some loot will always be exclusive.

TainoFuerte.8136:

Kronyx.2570:

If people were this worried about not having BiS gear, and being rolled by someone who does, then they would have invested time to get to an even footing.

They probably did.

That they actually had to is the very problem.

No they didn’t, because the difference was very little, or trust me the hardcore PvPers would have farmed that fractals till they got the BiS

dangerdoom.3862:

Atherakhia.4086:

LilMcGinley.3890:

VOLKON.1290:

LilMcGinley.3890:

VOLKON.1290:

LilMcGinley.3890:

I believe the issue with laurels is that WvW’ers feel like we should FINALLY be rewarded with Ascended items after being ignored for so long, and now that we have been, we have to wait ANOTHER 2-3 months to outfit ONE character for WvW.

On the other hand, PvE’ers have been running fractals, stashing laurels and globs away for such items for many months.

I finished on my mesmer a couple months ago. What’s the hold up? I’m predominantly WvW, btw.

The hold up is that I don’t want to run fractals or spend laurels to gear my characters. I have a token from killing people that should reward me better than it currently does.

Ah, so you admit that the hold up is a conscious choice you’re making which is interfering with you gearing your character with ascended gear that, at best, only gives a slight boost to stats and no notable advantage? Good, we’re getting somewhere.

Here’s the weird part… if you’re WvWing so much, where are your laurels? I’ve had more dailies complete by accident in WvW than I can count, and it usually take a few minutes when I’m done in WvW for the night to finish off the daily through some easy means, such as crafting food for WvW, gathering mats for superior siege, making superior siege, etc.

If you’re not mostly geared by now on one character that you’ve played regularly for any period of time the fault is not with ANet.

You are missing the point. Laurels are for PvE’ers to use. Badges are for WvW’ers to use. Might as well remove badges as after a stack they are pointless.

No…

Badges are for PvE’rs to use. Every dungeon in the game comes with its own currency.

Laurels are something that anyone can get. Even if you want to pull the WvW card, you’d still have 75% of the Laurels of someone who did every daily/monthly ever as most could be done entirely within a borderland. I know because the only time I left a borderland to do my daily was for the ambient creature slaying because I could kill 100 frogs in 30 seconds in the swamp as opposed to hunting racoons for 20mins. Aside from that, I did all my daily achievements in borderlands and if you didn’t, that was an error on your part. No one elses.

First of all this is bs because it’s only since idk what patch we could do everything in WvW. Crafting/killing mobs/gathering is not WvW. If you count like this we lost 90% of our laurels.

So capping a camp with NPCs that go towards your daily is not WvW? Crafting food to be competitive in WvW is not WvW? Gathering mithril and elder wood for superior siege is not WvW?

Kitten, I am a PvE player….

TainoFuerte.8136:

Meh.

My problem is that these higher stats were allowed into WvW in the first place, when part of the reason I gravitated towards this game was the promise I wouldn’t have to spend 3 forevers grinding to acquire BiS gear for my characters, especially for a PvP environment, where I’d like to think I’m killing because I’m good at the game, not because I have some stupid trinkets.

But that ship has sailed.

If people were this worried about not having BiS gear, and being rolled by someone who does, then they would have invested time to get to an even footing.

LilMcGinley.3890:

VOLKON.1290:

LilMcGinley.3890:

VOLKON.1290:

LilMcGinley.3890:

I believe the issue with laurels is that WvW’ers feel like we should FINALLY be rewarded with Ascended items after being ignored for so long, and now that we have been, we have to wait ANOTHER 2-3 months to outfit ONE character for WvW.

On the other hand, PvE’ers have been running fractals, stashing laurels and globs away for such items for many months.

I finished on my mesmer a couple months ago. What’s the hold up? I’m predominantly WvW, btw.

The hold up is that I don’t want to run fractals or spend laurels to gear my characters. I have a token from killing people that should reward me better than it currently does.

Ah, so you admit that the hold up is a conscious choice you’re making which is interfering with you gearing your character with ascended gear that, at best, only gives a slight boost to stats and no notable advantage? Good, we’re getting somewhere.

Here’s the weird part… if you’re WvWing so much, where are your laurels? I’ve had more dailies complete by accident in WvW than I can count, and it usually take a few minutes when I’m done in WvW for the night to finish off the daily through some easy means, such as crafting food for WvW, gathering mats for superior siege, making superior siege, etc.

If you’re not mostly geared by now on one character that you’ve played regularly for any period of time the fault is not with ANet.

You are missing the point. Laurels are for PvE’ers to use. Badges are for WvW’ers to use. Might as well remove badges as after a stack they are pointless.

Badges are to what dungeon tokens are in PvE. Laurels are for everyone. And like VOLKON and other have said earlier, laurels are extremely easy to get, IF you can spend 5-10 extra minutes just doing something other than chasing red, IN WvW.

Guild commendations are another way to get ascended gear, but if you choose not to do it, obviously, it will take you longer to get the same amount of gear as someone who does. I’m pretty sure there are PvP guilds that always do missions to get merits.

Most of you don’t realize that Amulets, and accessories are actually quicker to get on WvW. PvErs have to do 30 days worth of dailies to get them, while WvW players get them in 20 ( badge cost is inconsequential). The only thing PvE gets more of is rings, and thats when they do fractals. To balance this ANet gave us the WvW rank chests.

Azaruil.3406:

VOLKON.1290:

Excuse me, but I AM the WvW player there for the PvP. I have both accessories, two rings and an amulet already that are ascended. It isn’t hard if you allow yourself a little diversity as intended. If you’re single-focused on one and only one aspect of something, if you’re intentionally pigeon-holing your self in the game then ascended items likely won’t be for you. If you only want to kill people and can’t be bothered to take down a yak or throw together some superior ACs, then it’s time for you to address the real issue which lies in the mirror over there.

I think you tried to say something witty there, but it looks more to me as if though you are spewing nonsense.

You get one laurel a day for pvp’ing. You get one laurel a day for pve’ing. You also get the other ascended gear from doing fractals and guild stuff. So in essence, the pve’er will get ascended gear more easily than a pvp’er.

You actually want to bring up the word diversity in this instance? So tell me then, do you have all-ascended gear on 2-3 characters? Average cost of 35 laurels and 5 pieces. That is 175 per character. 525 laurels for 3 characters. Max 40 laurels per month. So you mean it would just take 13 months to get ascended gear on those 3 characters? That doesn’t even include different build sets on those characters?

Oh, but now THANKFULLY we have these awesome new additions to wvw. It will only take 11 months now to gear my characters with ascended jewelry. That still, with only one build option.

Well I guess it is fair, because it takes PVE players that long too right? Except that even if they just run 1 fractal at level 10 every night. Gain 6 guild commendations every week. Then they would have 3 characters fully geared in less than 3 months

Less than 3 months and 11 months is a big difference.

ps: don’t get me started on random chance of a ring. I don’t want healing power and magic find on a condi necro.

I do guild missions (2 hours a week maybe), I do fractals ( 2 hours a week maybe), I farm people for badges (like 40 hours a week), I do dailies ( wait no I don’t, it just happens without trying).

How can you, who bottlenecks himself into one part of the game ask for the same gear in the SAME time frame as someone who takes advantage of all the aspects of the game?

Thats spending a loooot of WvW ranks for a 1000 HP buff.

I don’t think a lot of people rage at staff eles…

They seem fairly balanced

Nice to see Kaineng actually attacking Maguuma keeps during their primetime. Go for first Kaineng! Rid us of the magswag

titles says it all

wut

luwe.1496:

Gotta love that ram between Wildcreek and Rogue’s Quarry laced with traps. Random people looking for extra 5 wxp keep getting hit by it.

Thats…genius

ParaldaWind.4523:

Hey Yak’s… I heard you said you wouldn’t lose your garrison anymore this week.

Whoops.

Held it till Thursday. I think it was well done.
Oh BTW, you guys lost yours before us to Kaineng.

DARP is apparently going to FA

Did Mags hold Hills in KNBL since reset?

Either way. bandwagoners + fairweathers does not equal stability.

As for my list.

I would say

TC
JQ
BG
SoR
FC (T8 since launch? hey stable is stable whether you are up high or low)

Caffynated.5713:

Probably Mag. It seems like every other server has received/lost significant transfers to push their ranking up/down. Mag is just Mag. Same faces every week all week, and changes in score are mostly determined by changes on other servers.

“Y U NO MENTION EU!?!!?111?questionmark!!!”

Because nobody cares about EU.

Lol@mag is mag

Refer to Week 52-03. That’s called massive transfers.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/38

Had a blast defending garrison today. mags capped everything but garrison. One of the longest sieges I ever defended against. And we won that battle. Recapping bay was pretty tough later, but we got it in the end. Around 200 badges in total. Great fun!

Anyone do a score update? Mos is 2 hours behind.

Mif.3471:

Camps I haven’t noticed any difference.

But I swear, every patch they put one more krait on Quaggan island….

LOL so true

I am more excited for the next post then I am for the next Game of Thrones episode. We need to make a MMO reality show on Maguumans

Nikked.7365:

Disagree. Every so often we get really close to taking a door down when a ram or cata is destroyed. 5-10 people can finish the job without having to leave, resupply, and start all over.

It’s realistic enough. A door that is that damaged should be able to be broken into with weapons.

Well that is a good point. I think damage should be reduced. And probably completely removed from a t2 gate

MiLkZz.4789:

Dodforer.2470:

MiLkZz.4789:

If this idea gets implemented you will lose all the top guilds. They will move to a game that has PvP, they wouldn’t care how crappy their graphics are, as long as it has decent PvP.

Looks like Anet decided that PvP doesn’t belong in WvW, character skill should be used on mobs not players. WvW should be siege only they say. This is plain boring and requires no skill. It will become like chess with good graphics. And I don’t like to play chess, I like something that requires fast thinking, reflexes and good hand-eye coordination.

Then go play a FPS….

I do play FPS, and I recently start playing them more again. Atleast real skill is required for those games and it has something called action too.

So, your idea of skill is being able to auto attack to kill a keep door.

Silas Drake.8946:

They should make the yak immune similar to the determined buff until the guards are killed.

Get this done!

Yeah I agree, player damage should be nerfed, even more on the reinforced gates. They are made of kitten steel, in case no one noticed. Or at least be able to repair without downing instantly.

Pinko.2076:

Yak’s should start a recruitment thread for euro timezone!

NA Mags should get some employment