Guild Wars 2

Dark King Rayleigh.9174:

Some great fights this week.

Here is a [BT] highlight video vs [PINK]: http://youtu.be/hnRMp4cXKas

Some amazing fights in just 2 nights. The fight that stands out for me is the one at the North Supply Camp, was a great and very long fight. Good strats and coordination on both sides.

Some great footage there but shoudn’t the video be titled “BT baiting PD vs Pink” xD

Love the recruitment, made me chuckle. If I wasn’t already in a guild would apply.

As mentioned above you should check out tcgw2.com to get in touch with the community and the guilds.

I would urge you to talk in-game with any members from ESP, TSL, CYN, DIS, TV, iNF and CERN. All guilds I can personally vouch for.

Killtrox.2019:

This is a really poor start for FA. I expected more especially on reset. Kaineng and TC are leaving FA in the dust. And I expected nothing less from my own server – Kaineng – grasping the early lead. <3

IMO FA’s strength has always been their oceanic guilds from IoJ like Avatar and co.

IRSyKo.5843:

AWESOME fight at north camp right now with Pink on FA BL.

Seriously that was amazing

North camps only fun up to a point then defenders just keep streaming in. :P

The Shadow Legion is an excellent guild with really experienced commanders and players. Highly recommend people checking them out.

Hey JubJub,

I can help you with your search for guilds on Tarnished Coast.

If you are still looking for a guild these are some great guilds you can check out.

TV – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds/Tarnished-Coast-Transcendent-Veneration-TV-Looking-for-a-few-more
PINK – tarnishedpink.com
TSL – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds/The-Shadow-Legion-Since-98-Tarnished-Coast-PVP-WvW

There are all great guilds that have people who do everything from WvWvW to PVE (fractals, CoF speed runs etc).

I would also suggest registering at tcgw2.com and looking at the guild recruitment there to get in touch directly with other guilds such as Absolute Legends, CERN, DIS, CYN, ESP.

Hey Lel,

I can help you with your search for guilds on Tarnished Coast.

If you are still looking for a guild these are some great guilds you can check out.

TV – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds/Tarnished-Coast-Transcendent-Veneration-TV-Looking-for-a-few-more
PINK – tarnishedpink.com
TSL – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds/The-Shadow-Legion-Since-98-Tarnished-Coast-PVP-WvW

There are all great guilds that have people who do everything from WvWvW to PVE (fractals, CoF speed runs etc).

I would also suggest registering at tcgw2.com and looking at the guild recruitment there to get in touch directly with other guilds such as Absolute Legends, CERN, DIS, CYN, ESP.

Hi Hyena,

If you are still looking for a guild I can help suggest some.

TV – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds/Tarnished-Coast-Transcendent-Veneration-TV-Looking-for-a-few-more
PINK – tarnishedpink.com
TSL – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/guilds/guilds/The-Shadow-Legion-Since-98-Tarnished-Coast-PVP-WvW

There are all great guilds that have people who do everything from WvWvW to PVE (fractals, CoF speed runs etc).

Waking.6052:

Just because you have a powerhouse T1 doesn’t mean NA servers are weaker competition. And considering you’re Red Guard everything short of Za Drots is weaker competition. You’re not in a good place to say whether Europeans in general would like or dislike NA servers.

And, the lag is not bad on all the servers. We have a bunch of Australian players with no problem, and there are good few English players on FA as well. They don’t have lag problems. If your connection is decent and you live in western Europe, you’ll be fine.

But they are, they transferred over to T1 NA for a week or two and fought against some of the top NA guilds.

JPSnow.8296:

Twystyd.8453:

Lyndis.2584:

Diashame.6328:

Killtrox.2019:

Actually, alot of guilds decided if we got a good lead (20-30k) alot of us would PvE. We’re taking it easy till FA starts to catch up then alot of us (RISE), WM, CO, and KO will come in and take care of the situation. xD

FA and K-Town couldn’t be two worlds more apart.
No offense but I’ve been here 2 months since the IoJ implosion and the community on this server can’t get enough pvp. They never need a break, you see the same people out every night for hours on end. They care only for points to stay in a high enough tier to have fun battles. They crave to be out numbered or at least only even numbers when going head to head. This seems to be the attitude of 85% of w3’ers on the server.

When my old guild went to K-Town and my long term mmo buddies (now living in a different region) went to FA I had the choice of moving to the bandwagon server or the hardcore but under populated pvp server.

Boy did I make the right decision. The PvP server is so much fun!

Ps: Jayne, Internet not even ordered yet. Told the misses today that she has to order it by Monday or I’m buying a one way ticket back to Australia. (I live in Mexico on a tourist visa and am not able to order it). I can go back to my in-laws to play but not much.

Don’t think you’ve ever been outnumbered this week. :P

Haha, yea that kid is funny. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but he did join a bandwagon. Being from IoJ myself FA received 3-4 times the amount of IoJ guilds as any other server all around the same time. We PvD during Oceanic and they PvD US prime. I guess he’s mad we don’t need to fight 7 days to win the match.

All servers in top three tiers are “bandwagon” servers. Without numbers you can’t be here. Kain got there numbers from lots of different severs and kitten most from IOJ same, same really. What happens with any server is the people on it start to show there skill and people like what the see and join. It’s the nature of the game. You can’t really hate on any server for it. If they weren’t good people wouldn’t have come take it as complement

Except for TC, we were lucky to start at launch with a really high population.

Our primary objective in WvW is continuous improvement, on every level – individual, guild, and server. To that end we have the following:

1. Server-wide War Council consisting of all Commanders (as well as reps of all smaller WvW guilds). All new WvW guilds are welcomed to the War Council as equals from day one.

2. Public server forum with a private subforum where the War Council develops strategy, plans reset nights and weekly guild map allocation, and documents it all.

3. An 88-page* (and counting) comprehensive WvW strategy guide developed by the WC and tempered in the fires of T2 vs stacked T1 servers SoR, BG, and KN. Includes keep defense strategy, GvG/ZvZ tactics, supply warfare, etc. not generally known outside T1. All WC guilds have both access and ability to contribute. -http://tinyurl.com/bgevk8n

4. 10,000 slot mumble server, generously contributed by a few of the WC members. All WvW guilds have their own guild rooms they administer.

5. Staying power – The backbone of TC’s WvW force has always been small guilds working together, with a few larger guilds supplementing their efforts. That’s what got us to X weeks in T2 and kept us there for weeks against three stacked T1 servers, including the soon-to-be #1 NA server, Blackgate. Our WvW players tend to either come for the WvW and stay for the community, or come for the community and fall in love with our WvW scene. We have no bandwagoners, a strong esprit d’corps proven in the face of weeks of challenging matchups vs stacked T1/2 servers, and are among the least likely servers to implode and fall through the tiers.

So please consider Tarnished Coast as a destination if you are a guild looking for a permanent new home.

We took the foot of the pedal today and eased off a little. Magguma took advantage and flipped our way-pointed keeps and SM right before DB’s SEA’s showed up. Its rough trying to hold DB’s SEA crew without at least a t2/t2 keep with some supply to setup emergency siege.

Might have cost us the move to T2. I wasn’t online when we lost Hills and Garrison in TCBL so I dont know wtf happened.

Shrouded.6450:

Cord.5371:

Shrouded.6450:

Cord.5371:

Lanimal.6541:

Haldunius.7864:

That’s weird that TC is stuck in T3. Did you know they’ve been in T2 and fought against guilds on BG, SBI, and SoR among others? If GW2 permitted skill by association then we’d all be in trouble.

Its funny how all the trash talkers in FA get a license to do that on the back of the IoJ oceanic crew. Everyone knows FA is being carried up the tiers by the IoJ guilds and their oceanic performances, yet they seem to be respectful on the forums but the old FA guilds continue to tarnish the servers name.

And yet you’re the ones sticking your noses into another tier’s thread and talking smack. Funny indeed.

To be fair, you guys seem to be talking behind our backs and since this is a public forum, wouldn’t it be better to say it facing us?

Or could you guys not handle that?

Small tools are always easily handled.

lol Well, you guys seem confident this time around. Let’s have a good fight then..

They are always confident, they were confident about beating BG and being first in T2 last time they went there as well. Its called delusion; a common trait displayed by most of the FA NA leadership.

WIGZ.8245:

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

Furiousbeard.7602:

I think FA will ride the tier 2 roller coaster for a while until we get stronger in our weak time zones. Once TC rejoins tier 2 I could see us taking more 3rd place finishes. Last time we faced TC we couldn’t beat them.

I disagree. Even back when we first hit T2, I think we were better than TC. We were leading them by 10k points up until a day in the mid-week when the queue in our own BL bugged out. We had 10 people defending with an hour long queue.

We lost everything. Dropped 20k pts and couldn’t make up the ground before reset.

Quite true.

TC only has coverage. Much like Tier 1 servers. Which isn’t anything bad, it’s just a reality of what it takes to be in Tier 1. Numbers + enough time zone coverage.

Otherwise, there hasn’t been a moment vs TC where BT hasn’t roflstomped through their forces. They are full of delicious bags, so tender, so sweet. Their tears on the forums are like nectar, almost as good as Maguuma’s. A hint of roleplay instead of trolling. Distinct. Delicious. Coupled with some dolyak meat, quite tantilizing a meal.

You guys almost absorbed a server and gained oceanic coverage and are arguing that we had better coverage than you guys a couple weeks ago? You can ask Kaineng players who they think has better coverage and you will realize that you guys lost to us three weeks ago even when you had BETTER coverage.

Silh.3279:

Raf.1078:

Except we never gave up cause we were outnumbered. We had good fun with BG & KN in spite of being outmanned. This could be that kind of match too if Maguma would give it chance.

kerona.3465:

We are. Those are our numbers (who are not pve-centric fairweathers). That’s how much you outnumber us by.

^

After my internet being down most of the night the day before (which is sometimes good, you get other things done), I decided to spend a bit more time in WvW on Sunday. Log in during non-peak hour, and what happens?

I hop into our home BL, flit over the the garrison, and find TC streaming through the gates. Oh, and we’ve got the outmanned ‘buff’ too.

Fine, figure I’d try to do something, slow and steady wins the race, be patient since there’s only a handful of us on the map. So round up a few guys, siege up the NW tower, throw up a couple of trebs and try to take advantage of TC trying to take East Keep from DB at the time to shell the paper garrison. Eventually poke a hole, yell it out the the map, and enough people come to throw up a bunch of rams on an inner gate, run in and kill the lord, only to have the TC zerg show up before the circle finishes capping.

Shortly after they show up at the NW tower, throw up more siege than we have people on the map and run over the thing before anyone has a chance to yell for reinforcements (not there would have been any anyhow). Okay, fine, let’s try from the NE tower. Throw up some defensive siege, escort some yaks… try not to draw attention and eventually get some trebs… nope TC’s taken the East Keep and DB’s off the map, up goes 5 catapults and the tower’s gone.

Eventually someone brings a karma train in from Orr and we retake the Garrison. And manage to hold it for a short while. As the afternoon draws on the numbers dwindle off and we’re back to outmanned again. Try a few breakouts, TC responds with zergs of siege, pushed back, farmed at spawn.

You ask me to put up a fight? Then, pray tell, how? Spend all my cash on siege and upgrades which get torn down the moment someone sees something is happening? Try to stop your zerg with small group/lone self?

I’m a competitive player at heart, more recently in MMO PvP, going all the way back to the original FPS’s, and never been one to give up on a fight. The problem is the logistics right now preclude fighting at all without calling in a zerg. And that’s only going to happen at certain times of the day.

I’d probably find more fights doing something silly like camping the JP and I understand why some people would rather do that.

Stay mobile, take your party hop maps, backcap the dominant zerg on the map. During NNK timzone when TC was considerably outmanned we were able to stay in 200+ PPT and kept the lead of DB’s SEA as low as possible by playing smart, opportunistic and outmanoeuvring our opponents.

We would go and backcap MAGBL after DB has had their fair share of it, we would go and cap DBBL southern part, we would then hop maps and take back TCBL while asking our EB crew to pressure SM to keep NNK there. Get the idea? Coordinate with everyone on at the time and play for opportunity. NNK and TFV are quite an impressive SEA crew but they are still limited to running in one big group or possibily two big groups, your small groups with superior siege can outmanuever and take objectives from them (towers and keeps, not just supply camps).

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Static.9841:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

And there were multiple threads on the forums TC had asking for transfers. Your server opened its arms out wide to attract numbers. It is what it is. If your people only cared to win Wv3 by volume of participants then TC has done well for itself when you are scaled back to T3. Not so well at higher tiers.

Clearly what you don’t understand (or do, but are deciding to just be facitious), is that recruitment is about filling in gaps in coverage which we certainly do have. T1 & T2 we got broken on because we didn’t have people around during certain time slots.

I think it doesn’t matter what anyone says or how valid it is, you guys seem to want to formulate your own stubborn opinions and act like you have some higher ground, that’s fine because that’s a pretty small molehill you’re standing on in the first place.

Actually the molehill you stand on is much smaller than anyone’s from Maguuma. You guys recruited to try to move up tiers and fell flat on your faces in the next tier up. If that was not a valid premise… You guys would have never needed to have recruitment threads on these forums and have been fine with being dealt with whatever cards ended up in your hand.

Maguuma might fall flat when it comes to T3 w/ FA/TC in it. But we did it without actively trying to be the King Cheese of Wv3 servers.

So you are telling me that the non-recruitment thread that Maguuma posted before paid transfers ended that backfired on them is not a factor in allowing Maguuma to move up to T3? I never figured out the real intent behind that thread but there is no denying that either intentionally or unintentionally you guys did get guilds.

As far as TC recruiting. We have had one of the most stable server population in terms of WvWvW. We have had very few guilds come and go from launch. We might have recruited a lot of individual players and there is no way to keep track of that. However, TC has since launch always been one of the most populated servers and therefore by that nature itself had the population to be competitive in T3 without bandwagons.

Now going back to the point about Maguuma zergs consisting of multiple tags and the whole argument about second-class citizens or militia vs guilds etc / training up the militia that the Pyro guy bought up earlier. TC experienced commanders and guilds invest a lot into increasing the knowledge of our militia and our regulars, there is no denying that.

However, if you feel that 20 people from various guilds not on the same VOIP, not understanding each others class compositions, party compositions, each others rotations, having chemistry, having pre-set tactical maneuvers for various scenarios and many many other elements that go into determining successful open-world combat then you seriously must have very low standards for open world success.

Get those 20 people into the same VOIP channel under a good leader and you can accomplish a lot but if you honestly strive to be one of the best at open-world combat it requires a lot of theorycrafting, a lot of practice sessions and a lot of chemistry building which can only be achieved within guild groups. So yes, you sir a mistaken there is a difference between militia and guilds.

ParaldaWind.4523:

Nialiss.6459:

I find the hardest thing about fighting Maguuma is keeping my bags from being full.

Probably should upgrade from 4 slots.

In all seriousness, though, I really find myself having to ask for merchants be dropped 5-6 times per night. In the 3-4 hours I was commanding last night in eternal, we had to drop merchants 5 times.

The new loot tables are great.

Shrouded.6450:

^ See, we can keep dancing in this tune all you want. Who has more kills, who has more skills, who has more brains. It’s always gunna be like that in every thread…. Cept maybe for the former T2 thread. :p

See, I don’t think this is entirely a bad thing. If you guys really want to improve, you have to be willing to take criticism, even if it is just veiled kitten showing. I legitimately try to change my strategies based on what other servers say about us.

FA pretty much changed the entire way Maguuma operates in the open field.

We played FA, 3 weeks ago in Tier 2 and were able to keep up if not beat them on reset as well as during NA primetime. We played BG and SoR (strongest NA) consistently for many weeks and learnt a lot from them. Yes all of the serious guilds who focus on open-world combat have watched VOTF/RG etc videos and tried to incorporate things from that into our respective guilds playstyle and we are consistently theory crafting and evolving. At the same time we have also had the benefit of facing them in person 24/7 for weeks on end, some of the best open-field guilds exist on SoR (TW) and BG (HB). So we have had first hand experience learning and adapting from them. Its a lot more useful than watching and analyzing edited clips.

I know FA has some decent open-field guilds (AVTR comes to mind) but if Maguuma feels like they have completely evolved by playing against FA what would happen if you guys were to face BG? who FA themselves admitted to learning a lot from and TC has been learning from for weeks.

You need to realize being battered for months in T2 when we got moved to T3 a bunch of our PVE population came into WvWvW for the sake of map completion. It was their first opportunity in ages to get map completion. I know TC outnumbers DB and Maguuma by a lot there is no denying that but the numbers we have seen so far this weekend have been by far the largest that I have ever seen TC bring. Do note that TC is considered by many to be the unofficial PVE server now as well (check reddit) and in terms of total server population we have always been along with the old SoS to be one of the first to get full.

Next understand that TC as a community has a lot of militia presence spread among lots of small guilds. If as a guild group you are priding yourself on the back of wiping mixed-militia groups then you are easily pleased. Do fight our established guild groups then make an assessment, we have several good open-field specialist guilds who would gladly help in maguuma’s ‘evolution’.

P.S. 1pko

kfarb.6732:

Even your recruitment thread is boring.
Don’t run glass builds. Don’t ignore that lone player running right by you (but don’t divert the zerg to kill him) because he may be on his way to solo a camp or snipe yaks. Get people to try a class other than ranger.

Thanks for the basic advice. I think this will be useful for any guys who come over from PVE to WvWvW for the first time post the W3 patch. As for the regulars, veterans and guilds this advice is laughable at best.

I am sure we understand more about our coverage than you do. We just have a lot of really really dedicated players that pull 12-18 hour shifts daily to give the impression of the coverage we have (even though we don’t really have the oceanic coverage).

What TC really needs are medium sized guilds to really take over and organize that timezone. Guilds (no matter the size) with very experienced leaders during those coverage gaps can make a really big difference on TC more so than any other T1 or T2 server.

Diashame.6328:

Lanimal.6541:

Magiofdeath.2745:

TC, can you just leave our thread please? In return, I will leave your thread. I’ve already done enough damage in your thread apparently, so please just leave us be. In time, I’m sure each of our servers will be able to prove who is actually better, but now is not the time. Good luck in tier 3, not that you need it.

But we did beat you guys the last time you were in Tier 2. So as of now TC is better but yes it should be fun when we face again as that match was really close.

I am seriously dreaming of a rematch with TC, there were factors contributing to our failures but in the end they were failures and no one cares. My guild came up against butter when fighting TC, I didn’t get wiped once when with the main commander even though we were usually outnumbered.

O and your new love affair with BG and Kaineng isn’t going to filter to me and I’m sure most of the FA community. We are rivals and whilst respect is given when warranted I don’t want to hear anything about being bestys.

Edit: SoS much respect to those that are deciding to stay.

Last off-topic post. I swear!

I know exactly what you guys did wrong that match-up and if you guys had a different strategy on reset you would have possibly beaten us that week. There was a sense of delusional arrogance with FA moving up to T2. After the IoJ transfers some of you thought you could compete with BG in skill and coverage.

Your reset plan where you sent some of your ‘better’ guilds to BGBL (they did fairly well) and not to TCBL. The guilds that were assigned defence of FABL were trying to slow BG down at Bay instead of TC at hills or at the least playing it safe and just turtling garrison. It was just not a smart strategy, your reset plan was flawed as you could have maximized your points by spreading the guilds out more evenly or focusing on TC more.

I know FA has always tried to represent themselves as a server who does not care about being opportunistic with PPT and objectives and just wants to ‘kill’ but practicality and playing for objectives can go hand in hand with striving to be first / looking for good fights. In T2 and T1 you should have opponents to fight most of the time.

I think it was probably because it was your first time in T2 and I am sure you guys learnt a lot from that week as you guys are probably doing now.

TC is still very interested in talking to guilds who are considering changing servers. Have a conversation with us on VOIP and we will answer any questions you might have about the server.

We prefer NA Pacific Guilds (Late NA) and Oceanic Guilds but are definitely open to all time-zones.

Magiofdeath.2745:

TC, can you just leave our thread please? In return, I will leave your thread. I’ve already done enough damage in your thread apparently, so please just leave us be. In time, I’m sure each of our servers will be able to prove who is actually better, but now is not the time. Good luck in tier 3, not that you need it.

But we did beat you guys the last time you were in Tier 2. So as of now TC is better but yes it should be fun when we face again as that match was really close.

The PYRO guild from Mags is pretty decent, I saw them at TCBL garrison. Granted they were mostly facing our never-say-die militia. Would like to see them go up against some of our medium/larger guilds.

If TC is able to get some more off-peak coverage it could result in T2 being the most evenly contested yet competitive tier with 24/7 fighting.

TC as a server believes in long-term stability. This is proven by how little the population has changed since launch. We are the only server in the top two tiers that has had the least amount of guilds transferred in or transferred out (1). This is because our core population and core WvWvW guilds are fantastic.

Being an unofficial RP server we will always be a stable server population wise, when the march update hits its going to bring more non pvp-ers into WvWvW if we are able to retain even 10-15% of the crowd that gives WvWvW a try our coverage will improve considerably.

It is not that we completely lack people during oceanic, sea, european timezones. We have people on what we really lack is guild organization during those times. If a SEA/OCEANIC or even EUROPEAN guild decides to move to TC you will not only be able to recruit a lot of hardened veterans but you will make a big difference in coordinating and organizing that timezone.

If your guild wants an extremely stable server where you can make a big difference and at the same time grow as a guild then choose TC.

Actually Tarnished Coast (RP server in NA) fought their way to Tier 2 slightly before Piken and is still here going strong but we have mad respect for Piken for achieving the same feat as well.

I am against this change as well. I agree with all the people arguing about it giving too much cover to zergs. Organized guild groups are already effective at not popping orange swords. This means it completely throws that form of ‘organized offensive strategy’ out the window. It provides too much cover for big groups.

To the people claiming that this will cut down the zerg numbers…you are being delusional, read into the logic. This will help zerg numbers.

1. Person arguing about T1, there are more guild groups in T1 than anywhere else. If you are arguing for help with the PUG zerg? You are in the wrong tier. The organized guild groups dont pop orange swords as it is.

2. Unorganized zergs can do a lot of damage now without popping swords.

3. It would be difficult to keep track of enemy movements and read it as easily as before.

4. During off-peak hours lower populations are going to suffer a LOT more. You realize we will need a sentry at every gate in Garrison now.

5. By removing the capability of popping orange swords its taken away more from that party of 5 that could go to another objective and cause a distraction by popping orange swords

6. You can completely forget about your small 5 man party making a difference now in taking towers and keeps. Flip supply camps all day or go run with the zerg because you will be unable to ninja jack without immediate zerg response.

7. It negates the usefulness of things such as Quaggan weather nodes (previously used as masks for offense), now they would be useful for only contesting WP’s. (People won’t get to WP keeps in T1/T2 because of this feature).

If Arenanet really wanted to help out the pug commanders etc by not popping swords, increase the cap to 10 not 25. 25 gives too much cover to organized guild groups.

However, hands down the best idea in this thread is the idea to buy additional upgrades to towers/keeps called ‘cover’ which can help us purchase the orange swords option. Now that would be awesome. It would encourage stern defence up to the point of T2 walls/gates and cover upgrades being done. After which it would allow the defensive server to go on the offence. It would limit zergs from going objective to objective capping.

Arenanet: Add SCOUTING UPGRADES to keeps please. TY.

Don’t forget TC got to where they are with barely any guilds joining the server. Got to T2 with our core community and guilds since launch.

Hypothetically if TC were to get HB and WM we could make a genuine push for T1, our NA is pretty solid imo.

By the same token just HB and WM would probably not make us competitive in Tier 1 (i.e. 2nd place or keeping it close) , we would need another medium sized NA Pacific guild (late NA) and another European crew to work HB.

But with those two awesome guilds we could push for T1.

In honour of keeping it classy I want to nominate the classiest celebrity alive for TC : Bill Murray

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TCBL Dueling event. Windmill @ Southern Camp. We are waiting there lets get it started BG and Kaineng.

Could someone from the DUEL guild send me an invite? I believe the unofficial dueling day is today I would like to know what time and which BL its scheduled for.

I would also vote RG as best in open-combat but I have not faced them (Tarnished Coast).

Personally for me it has to be HB from BG not are they the best open-combat guild in T2 they are also very good at all other aspects of WvWvW such as objectives and defense.

IceBlizzard.1054:

Wow TC owns all of Kn bl currently. Crazy. All of Kn seems to be in Ebg currently

When KH and Pink join forces enemy borderlands have a tendency to turn TC’s color.

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neomccoy.2657:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

you guys never said anything decent to us. and at least one guy in this thread flamed maguuma. two way street brah.

Maybe because you keep doing stuff like this -.-

Seriously we were having a nice thread…

Maybe because your guys were doing stuff like this last week. You guys talked mighty big behind an asian nightcrew. And kerona wasn’t even flaming you guys. Just congratulating you guys or not needing extracurricular stuff to win, and you guys flip out.

gtfo. ty.

[HB] you guys are scary lol. We literally always ask where is the HB zerg so we can avoid them

Our match is moar fun anyhow.

AoN and BT > RE.. you guys were not much of a challenge to kill.

Wow, I never looked at it that way.

pot.6805:

Yeah taking Hills with my guildies in FA BL was pretty epic! TC put up a great fight! TCs counter siege abilities have improved a lot in my opinion since last time BG fought them!

I hope you liked my trebbing. I was the one on the trebuchet.

Mad respect for that AVTR guild composition of Glamor Mesmers. Only guild we are genuinely wiping to in FA. Are you guys originally from IoJ?

Saweth You Him.9047:

Most of the fighting in T3 was open field or trebuchet. There was mass zerg on mass zerg, but nothing that required zerg breaker spam like in this BG/TC/FA match-up. It was mostly frontal warfare. Or I guess more traditional warfare. Not two groups of 50 bombing into one another running zerg breaker builds spamming into the other group. It was more one zerg controlling a zone and detachment forces carrying out objectives. And the zone control zerg progressively working towards a major objective. Much more strategic. I’ve seen in other threads people who have moved down from tier one to lower tiers attesting to this truth. So like I said not a big fan of running a zerg breaker build and mindlessly bombing into another zerg.

The strategic elements are still there that existed in T3 or below. One is simply required to add another layer of GvG / ZvZ combat into it and this is simply because of the coverage difference between T3 and T2/T1. Spec groups that incorporate zerg breaking effectively are organized, knowledgeable and skilled guilds.

After all they are tactics. T3 relied more on the macro 4 map strategy, T2 and T1 incorporate that macro-game with micro spec groups and GvG combat.

Where is BG’s oceanic crew? Are they taking a rest after T1? Part of me was hoping that BG and FA’s oceanic would share points and negate each other out a little bit but at this point it seems like FA’s oceanic are out in force and BG are not.

I would rather have both FA and BG ticking at 250-300 range during oceanic than FA running away with it at 300+ ppt.

Sir William PD.9615:

We’ll be sending our repair build to KnT today…

I am impressed.

What about the TC guilds? We probably share some of that repair bill. KnT is definitely impressive to fight though.

Those were fun duels Updayedd and your ele/guardian friend.

I also agree that removing swords would just make zergs more effective at taking keeps and towers. The disadvantages of zerging is often on the commanders shoulders to be as stealthy as possible before being discovered, its difficult when a lot of random’s join up the karma train and consistently pop orange swords to spoil the zergs offensive on a fully upgraded keep.

I think taking some notes out of DaoC’s book and enhancing guild involvement is the next step for WvWvW.

1. Incorporate Guild Chat and pop-up boxes indicating when a guild claimed structure is under attack.

2. Increase rewards for defending / especially as the individuals hold out for longer hours, repel timers reward exponentially, of course this would have to be implemented in such a way that people don’t just harvest the rewards.

3. Introduce new rewards for answering a call to action. for e.g. if a guild structure is under attack and your guildmates decide to abandon their fractal/dungeon to jump in and end up successfully defending it, give addition defensive rewards. Maybe have a way to introduce how this reward can be shared with pugs/militia/other guilds etc as well.

4. Introduce new blueprints for anti-zerg for e.g. a piece of siege that can be built as a ‘sentry/scout’ but it can’t be built inside structures, it would be required to be built on open ground and will have a set radius that is able to notify the user who placed said siege of enemy movement. Have a decent supply requirement on it 70+. Yes, its inspired from MOBA titles.

Another thing would be to add another type of structural upgrade to towers and keeps similar to cannons and oil.

5. Defensive reward for first response i.e. first person to enter empty defensive structure and attempt defence (use supply to build siege, use cannon or oil etc)

6. Create rewards for applying boons on Dolyaks (swiftness and other boons)

The best fights I have had have often been back and forth fighting over the inner of a fully upgraded keep (whether offensively or defensively). The amount of tactics required when two experienced guilds are fighting each other over Hills Keep for e.g. is always enjoyable.

The game needs to move towards its namesake which is guild wars 2, it needs to encourage small to medium sized guilds to work together and improve their combat effectiveness via spec builds and teamwork. It needs to reward this. More direct involvement of Guild’s is what the game needs.

If you were to go to Tier 1 or 2 in NA you would face lots of people and lots of guilds. I agree with the part that Europeans have mastered the GvG combat better than American servers and guilds and I am not that surprised by it at all. However, there are tonnes of European guilds on NA server and other NA guilds that are working on those aspects regularly.

RG is one of the best GvG guilds period, they would beat most guilds in Europe as well :/

So now that paid transfers are almost upon us, could we get a reveal on where these core PS guilds are moving to? Whenever I tried to talk to a PS guild leader they told me they weren’t moving :/

You will find that our EU guilds typically play in EB more than the borderlands. We do have a lot of regular players like yourself that run around in Borderlands. We recently picked up a great Pacific NA guild that has lots of dedicated members that play late (KH) who overlap very easily into EU time as well. Combine that with the #nolifers from NA and #nolifers from Oceanic and you got a good crew going of very skilled players.

However, it is not possible to match a Tier 1 ready server in numbers especially during our weaker timeslots. That being said its not like we are completely getting rolled and have outmanned buff all the time (thats not the case at all). We are still doing fairly well during EU timeslot on 2/4 maps, EB & TCBL and usually some ninja keep business on an enemy borderland.

Individual players, small guilds should transfer to TC with the intention of making a big difference to our already dedicated group of players. Plan long-term with server stability in mind and you will be very much rewarded for picking TC.

spartanx.1364:

Yes SBI was pretty hectic. Good Work!

Actually we were doing quite well until the point we tunnelvisioned the Garrison and Choo ‘ninja golem-ed’ our upgraded Hills Keep. Our response time in that was poor and we did not leave enough sentries behind in hills.

Did you guys clear out the outer gate oils and cannons before moving the golems in? If not -_-, poor defence on our part.

We still had a solid chance on that map up till that point we were pressuring NE tower, SW tower, Bay keep and Garrison Keep. After that I knew it was going to be tough to do any offence.

Hey man,

Good luck on AG. Thanks for talking with us.

Smokee.1754:

You wont find any mega guilds with 500+ members on BG,

The entire population of Thailand would disagree with that statement :P

If any Piken Square guilds are still deciding on a new server do consider going across the Atlantic and picking Tarnished Coast. We need more Euro and Oceanic coverage and you will find the transition from an RP server to an RP server extremely easy.

We are in Tier 2 currently and have our share of hardcore WvW guilds and players as well. Whisper/Mail me in-game or send a message over here if you guys are considering moving over.

We have no queue issues at all. Only queues are on reset and during NA primetime (2/4 maps).

Sincerely,
Theon

I saw you guys recruiting for oceanic slot as well; I am confused now.