Guild Wars 2

Good job WM, and kudos to the rest of SBI on a great comeback win. See you this week!

~ signed: some random guy on Blackgate

Heh another thread from a player on IoJ with the exact same suggestion to Anet today.

I’m able to take two things away from this thread and the one posted earlier today.

1) Some IoJ players are not looking forward to their match next week
2) Some IoJ players are steamed that BG beat HoD and ET so badly that they were able to pass IoJ in rating and play in the T1 match next week.

Both are understandable, but not worthy of artificially manipulating the rating system. What if they push them down too low, and they stomp the server in that match? What if they don’t get pushed down enough and some other server ends up getting artificially pushed into a higher tier? Once the precedent is set, what stops every server from saying “hey we’re going to crush both servers in our next match can you push them down too please”? Slippery slope ya know?

No. I believe both servers will settle in to where they should be within a few weeks, which isn’t all that long.

Sorry to jump on the bandwagon of NO, but yeah this is a bad idea. Anet should not override the ranking system to accelerate a server’s fall, or rise, in ranking. We’re just going to have to let the system adjust over time.

Although, one wonders if this post would have ever been created if IoJ wasn’t going to drop to T2 next week. =)

Scyntrus.2458:

I sort of want HoD to lose (3rd place) this week, so they’ll drop to T3. At this rate, we’re going to have a rematch with BG next round…

HoD could gain ZERO points this whole week and still hold T2 for next week. It takes time to bleed off all that rating the server achieved while it was going undefeated. Also, there’s a good chance BG will make the T1 match this week, so you’ll be facing IoJ and SoS instead, which doesn’t make things any better for you guys.

I’ll take a couple more weeks but you guys will get down the rankings and probably start having fun again soon.

I can’t tell if that reply is serious or a troll attempt.

1) BG had no or short queues the past couple of weeks because our matches have been landslides. Next week will be different. There will be queues … likely long ones over the weekend.

2) 5 of 15 ex-TA guilds moved to Blackgate. Last time I checked, one-third is not “almost all”.

3) BG is stomping their opponents because the ranking system is out of whack right now, and they’ve faced out-covered (last week) or ghost town (this week) servers.

I have no idea about server-wide voice comm, but I would check out Tarnished Coast. I wouldn’t say they’re overly organized but it seems like they’re working on it. Sea of Sorrows and Sanctum of Rall could be good options to consider as well.

Good luck.

It could be the most lopsided match since the one week games started, and no it’s not fun .. not for anyone. It sucks what happened to HoD and ET, but whats done is done. There will be more “fall from glory” and “rise from the ashes” scenarios in the future I’m sure, especially while server transfers are free.

I just thought I’d add that SoR is seeing such a huge rating increase is because they entered the match as the #2 server, and are crushing the #1 server in the match, who is actually taking 3rd. The score disparity, as well as more tightly bunched ratings through the middle of the server list is how they jumped 5 spots in one week. Something similar is happening with IoJ this week, but they’re gaining even more rating because they are the #3 server crushing the #1 server. BG is also crushing their game but are gaining less rating because they were the #1 server.

Blah blah anyways .. yeah it’s how the rating system works.

Two of the largest Alliances on NA servers broke up recently, and there were many transfers to other servers that took place last week. There are also some transfers from the current #1 server, Jade Quarry, to SoR because those guilds were tired of sitting in queues for hours.

So here is how this week’s matches broke down with the above said …

T1 – Not uncommon to see a blow out in this tier. HoD’s WvW population was decimated, and SBI cannot compete with JQ’s EU coverage for now.

T2 – ET went the way of HoD, and CD is outcovered by IoJ

T3 – BG was the beneficiary of the most Alliance break up transfers, as well as the recipient of an EU Alliance that transferred around the same time the NA Alliances broke up.

T4 – SoS received transfers from 4 or 5 of the top WvW guilds on Dragonbrand, as well as PRX, a former HoD Alliance NA guild.

T5 – SoR received guilds from JQ on Saturday that made a big difference.

And there you have it. But take a look at this …

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Except for the T2 match, the rest of them are going to be very interesting this week.

Honestly, the best thing a server can do right now is round out 24/7 coverage as best as possible via organized PvP guilds in various time zones, then LOSE, LOSE and LOSE as often as possible to discourage bandwagon players that are always trying to jump on the “next best thing” train. Then, when free transfers are finally disabled, you stand a better chance at competitive WvW with shorter queues.

Free transfers are a double edged sword. They can help a server build better WvW coverage, but with that often brings success and that success creates queues. Queues create frustration and players/guilds eventually transfer elsewhere. Thus will be the cycle of WvW until free server transfers are turned off for good.

Part of me thinks Anet is taking the position that they need to keep free transfers open until they’re able to implement the guesting feature. I just don’t think they’re as concerned about what it’s doing to WvW as the die hard WvW players are. But until they speak out on the subject, all we can do is posture and speculate.

Wow Jedahs. Trying to recruit the OP, who plays in a time zone where your server is already strong, from a server of which you’re already receiving a huge influx of WvW focused NA guilds, effectively crippling it. Have a little tact maybe eh? Talk a about lack of class.

Judas.5432:

So…..

Also, yes, I play a thief (and a ranger) and it looks like you just sat there and took the hits. Lotus strike, dancing daggers, double strike, and wild strike plus whatever else was needed to kill you all in 2 seconds? That didn’t happen, man. It may have been quick but there are thief combos that are actually fast and this isn’t one of them.

Well, I can tell you that it happened to me, just last night. I’m a lvl 80 Engineer with some Soldiers (Power, Vit, Tough) and Knight’s pieces mixed in. Yeah my gear favors Berserker’s stats, but I’m not full glass cannon. With my set I run with about 18k HPs. When the Thief saw me, he started running towards me, vanished, re-appeared next to me and I was dead. All of those skills I quoted above were listed in my combat log. There’s no way I just stood there and took it. It was virtually instant. I know absolutely nothing about Thief skill mechanics, but I’m just reporting what I experienced.

So I notice the Thief that did that is on SBI. I play on Blackgate and ran into a similar situation last night where I was basically instakilled by a Thief from SBI. I was in EB last night and on the way towards Ogre, where I noticed a few skulls on the map up ahead. When I went to check it out, there were 2 or 3 BG player corpses laying there, and an SBI Defender (this Thief) laying down inside one of the corpses. I started shooting him where he got up, did the Thief vanish and blink thing and killed me before I could hit a single skill. Then he went back over to the other player’s corpse, dropped some kind of goo on it and layed down in it again lol. It was pretty weird.

Anyhoo … my combat log looked very similar to yours. I actually laid there dead and chatted with the other dead player in /say for a minute. We both were dumbfounded. I wonder if it was the same guy. Is this kind of burst damage possible from any class?

I use a Razer Nostromo gamepad for this game and find it essential for playing my Engineer effectively. Movement with my thumb on the D-pad gives me 15 buttons I can easily and quickly hit with 4 fingers. I have the 1-5 skills on the middle row, 1-4 Toolbelt skills on the top row (with my Elite on the top right), and my utility skills on the bottom row. Scroll wheel up to dodge, back to drop whatever kit I’m in and swap back to weapon, and two thumb buttons bound to loot and nearest target. I jump with one thumb button on my mouse and the other to toggle voice comm.

Works great for me, and I know for a fact that I’d struggle with my Engineer without it.