Guild Wars 2

Noone doubt one day, when most bugs (and dungeon exploits) will be fixed, we will see a legendary mode with 5-7 level higher enemies. I said it yet. Why not, lv90+ enemies around us, so fun… One day..

It’s a but devs are aware, should be fixed on monday.

That player was surely kicked from others, acting innocent. Did he get reinvited?

Lol i tried to repeating him it’s a well know bug all of us knows.

Hrouda warned us, i kept repeating and quoting his post for a couple days.
Someone else reported this behavior, you can read a post on this thread too.
BTW ye, if you want to keep insisting, dreaming a refund, yelling here, feel free, enjoy.

And i told you yet to forget a refund. Devs warned you to wait, the game is bugged and they know it too. You didn’t. Your fault you have to pay. Accept it.

Yes, i suggested a group kick days ago when attempting to abuse of it. Wondering if it will be implemented (obiouvsly in a coherent way)

One day, maybe, this issue will be fixed. Until that, as Aza said, join serious groups.
When you see 2 or 3 players of the same guild, it’s a warning, you risk to waste your time with idiots. Don’t risk, leave the group.

I’m just trying to make you forget what happened, being positive, and back to play a challenging fun content. After all it’s bugged, we knew it. And you lost just 60 tokens of thousands needed

Yes obiouvsly there isn’t a huge difference (still you will confirm your performance are better). As i said, it’s not a gear based game, with maths before start. (Luckly).
No doubt, i met a lot of brainless 80s, while i met a lot of talented lower levels. When 80, they are precious allies to have fun.
I myself joined some exp before be an 80, i was the one with less deaths then any other 80s of my group. But c’mon, i find a 35 on exp funny. After all, how many 35 with full gold set+gold weapons (talented too)are around? Maybe 0.5% of the playerbase.

Said this: why the hell farm exp stressing yourself when 35, when the first gear you can get is an 80 one

Hellkaiser.6025:

@dogblaster:

Could you MAYBE show a little tact in your responses? we get it, you’re an angry serious hardcore 1337 game lord

I would love to see his attitude without his guild rofl. Or when his god-like team quit, forcing him to recruit new players (with maybe lower god-like performance) or join noob pugs. I guess he will be the one acting as a pro yelling other people’s class pretending to teach them. God bless me to group with this kind of players, lol, i hope all of them will quit as fast as they joined our game trashing it
This post of Hayden, fit perfectly for him too.

Okay. most of us don’t have such networks which allow of us construct and conduct a precise team. it doesn’t mean we are any worse than you, but you have the added benefit of knowing whose running what, how much they can handle and how to relate relevant info to them to ensure they get it right. it’s easy for you to form a team, communicate with that team… and whatever else. those are essentially the points which carry a guild crew where a PuG fails, that doesn’t mean the PuG consists of less capable players… they deserve the rewards just as much. This game is different because there’s no roles, and the majority of guilds i’ve found couldn’t care less about dungeons as anything more than “hey for kitten and giggles, let’s try that on the weekend one time only and never do it again”. if there were far more dungeon oriented guilds, actively recruiting and organizing these things..it wouldn’t be a problem. but in the meantime, be considerate and understand you are just lucky to have the support you do.

This game is meant to be community open, having fun all together, even with random people. Not an elitism like WoW and their idiot raid racism even in-guild

Some could answer boring, bugged, armor not so cool etc.
Try to find some guildies doing it, motivated as you are.
Or keep spamming LFM trying to find people. Talk with them about their motivation, add them on contact list. You will have your daily group

I find a bit strange an exotic + full sigil set (6 sigils exotic) lv80 weapon+armor is lower than a 35 gold one , playing together on the same dungeon. A bit senseless….don’t you agree?

Over all, dungeons are made on player’s skills, not math, or will be an other MMO gear based.

Said this, there is not reason to play explorer when 35, except if you want to test your personal skills as player, with lower dmg than others. This doesn’t means he can have fun to join groups. Not a pug, be sure.. Who is gonna invite a lv35 even on AC exp lol.

30 minutes PER RUN, not per dungeon changing path 15 minutes each..

DR applied globally is to stop dungeon farmers to keep rotating from dungeons to dungeons getting 180 tokens per dungeon per day. Few days and you can have all.
And quit. Nah, forget it.

Don’t forget they are planning to make the run 45 minutes minimum to get your reward.

Are they the same of a lv35 blue/green armor maybe?
And your traits? And your weapon, is it the same of a blue / green lv35 one?
And your sigils (80 ones, full set)?

Before we had level60/70 armor/weapons, to give a dungeon armor to use while leveling.
Devs realized noone was doing exp at all wasting days for an armor useless 5 levels later from the first blue dropped. (And funnily, take so long you outleveled lv60 requirement when finally you’re able to buy it lol)
\\(Sorry for double post, i wasn’t able to edit, even relogging)

Your armor stats and weapon stats are unchanged, as much downed. That’s why as 80 you make 100dmg, when 35 2dmg (example). Explorer is meant to be a special challenge when 80, and dungeon armors are 80 for this reason. There are other content to enjoy like the main story and billion other things to do, leveling.

No doubt he can be a talented player. It’s his trait tree, weapons and armors who are heavily lower than the rest of his team. Basically he helps and survive, yes. But his contribution is 5%. While others are doing 100 dmg, he’s doing 2 dmg (example).

Silverghost.4192:

Robert,

Is running past mobs like in twilight arbor considered to be an exploit if you’re not cheating them by bugs etc? If it is then maybe there should be an In-game MOTD for things like this to let players know.

Most every group I have ever pugged has wanted to run past certain trash mob packs to make the clear time faster. And no offense to game design, but honestly less boring. (Most people from what I have observed don’t generally enjoy clearing trash if they don’t have to.)

If this is considered exploiting I definitely was not aware. Things like jumping over holes in the wall to skip content is a lot more clear cut that it is not intended. I personally consider the running past trash or kiting to be an alternate way to progress as the trash does leash an there is not a clear obstacle to progression that opens up after the trash dies.

Feel free to PM me if needed and remove this post if needed.

What you described is the exact reason because they put 30 minutes, planning 45 minutes, as a minimal time to complete a dungeon and get full rewards.
As you see, they fixed it yet, and improving to make dungeons longer.
So at the end, skip trash to make the run faster, will not worth anymore.

Lv35 is not supposed to be a level to farm explorer dungeons
Do something else, when 80 will be fun doing them. Now you’re an useless bag in your team. If you truly want an alternative to spend tokens, buy armor sigils, or the legendary component.

If and when the game will run stable with less bug, devs are planning (at least they promised) to improve and add new dynamic special content worth the time spent to run around and be there.

I know. I guess it’s because you left. Basically you wasn’t worth anymore of any appropriate reward.
A curious anomaly, remember to not leave the group.

Well, there is a thread yet for your complains.
Over all, most (the smartest) are waiting monday patch. We all know it’s bugged and a waste of time.
Don’t you?

Bro. I perfectly understand your feelings. Arah is long, and challenging.
Receive 1 token is not fun. But c’mon
After all, you lost just 60 tokens
Seems you love that dungeon, so you will happily repeat it, expecially with a good group.
Be positive , monday should fix the DR, a lot will play again.
The group you described, trying to teach you how to use your class, remembers me of the typical idiot group you meet on WoW. EVERYONE pretend (dream) to be a pro, EVERYONE teach other people’s class. Just ignore them.
Don’t argue. We both know one player needs to be the top damager to keep Lupicus’ shadowstep, your group was made of noobs pretending to be pro just because they found a guide on wiki. Was way more fun weeks ago, when i was one of the rarest able to fight him knowing the strategy. At least the team was coherently admitting their fault, listening, trying to play their best. Obiouvsly not everyone is able to dodge and play with high performance, it’s a player fault, and noone can be an elite player.
It’s ok. IF you accept it, sometimes when you get your group is hopeless and after 8 attempts all of them except you are powned at the beginning of phase 2, just give up and regroup. Next is better. But still,save on contacts who you saw playing better.
At the end, you will have a selected list of good players, who will make the run fun and fast. Me and my buddy, both determined to play arah endless, are planning to create an arah guild, planning to invite who we saw playing with high performance. I renew my invite to join us

Actually Hrouda warned us from days to stop to play dungeons until fixed.
I and many others didn’t waste our time for a lottery of tokens.
It’s your fault if you don’t read dev’s posts but just log, post a complain and logoff

Tomorrow there is a patch. Wait.

Sometimes i truly wonder if wasn’t better to just do a F2P open beta, waiting a stable working game, and then make an official launch with paid account for Christmas, meh
When FFXIV devs realized their game was too much bugged, turned the game as F2P for long. Now is stable, it’s again with a sub.

MrLee.6892:

And the OP didn’t ask to be ridiculed either….

Just sayin….

But you will agree it’s fun when someone don’t want to think maybe there is a strategy, calling a dungeon “trashy bugged” , just because used to the mindless zergfest hanging around DEs and WvW

You receive a mail when you pass the level needed for a dungeon story mode. So when you’re 30 40 etc you’re invited to do it. When finish, if you try to go inside in explorable mode, you can see what is the minimum level required (which will be the level you will be downed, if your character is higher).

Yep, some players are heavily talented to find bugs and anomalies, using sometimes method worked succesfully (until immediately fixed) on other MMOs

Open an ingame ticket, as a PVE bug, explain what happens, what the exploiter do, and then press the button for a screenshot.

We don’t need false reports and childish discussions about a screenshot on this forum.
After all, except botting, what else do you want to report?

Rich.9503:

Rpgtabbycat.5869:

The best way to train newbies for the dungeons is to run them through with an experienced group and show them what needs to be done.

That sounds like the same old boring MMO attitude to me. I was of the mind that Guild Wars 2 was for everyone regardless of ability. For anyone to jump in, play and have fun with. Why cant a causal group of new players jump into a dungeon and have fun with it and still come out with something to show for their time and effort? I really dislike MMO elitism in regards to dungeons.

To be honest, i still remember TA exp, my first approach. A pug of newbies, all of us, exploring a new world. Well, not just we cleared the path forward forward (slowly, why not), but i died just 2 times, they died a bit more, maybe 4 times at best. I was leading them, like if i was experienced. I just used my eyes, studying the behavior of enemies around me, suggesting what i tough was the best strategy. All of us had a great experience, as much was a long run (around 1h). Arah was even better (an other pug of newbies, we took path 1) with this uber giant, Lupicus. I figured out alone the strategy, what is now on youtube and on wiki. Elitism?

@Sandtiger: until the group leader who enter is on explorer mode, you will join the group. If you’re the leader and you didn’t complete story mode, you have to complete it to be leader.

Yes, the old bug is back. On monday patch should be fixed.

@Hayden : I was sarcastic

I guess he wants heroes on gw2. God bless us. How to kill a community not giving you a reason to be even guilded or socialize. If you don’t find any group for an armor, one day, change server to a high population one. Surely someone will join you. If it’s an underrated dungeon, your mission will be to collect a contact list of farmers of the dungeon you like. I’m doing it with arah.
Think about create a guild of farmers of the dungeon you like, the day noone will join you even spamming the chat

How long we need to wait before it’s fixed? Weeks? Neither a relog fix.

I guess he thinks it’s bugged, lol. Kill minions during this phase is so bad?
Minions behave like humans. You can see it during the Giganticus fight, and the grubs spawning on their feet. (I’m a necro permanently MM, so..)

Inci.7560:

TwoSwords.4687:

Just did CoE with the experimental teleportation route (Option 2), and the last boss inside a small room, was terrible, we just couldn’t down him, not enough room to navigate his 15 AE attack circles he spawns.

I really like GW2, but the bugs with Dungeon Tokens not being awarded properly (I posted about another issue, I got 1, yes 1 token for a CoE complete 1st run of the day) and the overly tuned paths are really really dissappointing. I do enjoy the difficulty, but on some paths, it’s a real turn off.

Also, I dislike the whole getting all your tokens at the end, I do feel that it just down right stinks to get to the last boss, not be able to down him, and walk away empty handed.

You know you can stop all damage from those circles with proper positioning right? This is not a matter of overtuning, this is just a matter of inexperience with the boss mechanics.

You have no idea how many threads i read of bug reports, when people just don’t know how to deal with a boss or phase.

Mr Prismatic.9578:

You don’t need toughness and vitality to stay alive, you need practice and enemy awareness.

Yep, agree 100%. Toughness helps a bit, vitality is needed but not something to stack.
I met a funny guy with an uber vitality. He still think it’s the best set ever.
He thinks to be a healer..

You answered yourself. The problem of the group is the balance, a glass cannon group is not meant to be played, so obiouvsly you feel the needing to have a guardian.
Try to organize a more balanced group not on glasscannon mode, you will find a huge difference about performance, and will be even faster as much incoherent could appear.
I didn’t mention combos, would add a new chapter.

You mean you got a better stat exotic armor but you want to transmute with arah look?
What class are you, and what armor you got?
Ye i’m waiting monday patch too. If works properly and you’re on NA, add me, i will group with you happily, i’m collecting an elitist group on my contacts, i’m farming the last part of my armor

Forget the bad experience you had haha, you played on a bugged environment

The game is meant to be completed regarding of who is on your group. If you think without tank classes (in a game where tank role doesn’t exists lol) 2 are the reason:
your group is zerging around without any comprehension of his class
the dungeon needs a balance fix

Speaking of which, i still think your case is the first, Jaded..

Well if not, wait more weeks, doing something else. So much to do.

I totally agree, i clear arah daily. But definitively it’s not so easy with pugs.
Not just because after 7-8 attempts most leave, but even becasue as much i try to explain a strategy, people keep die on phase2, i’m usually alone running until killed obiouvsly. It’s ok, makes yourself feel part of an elite of great players, proud to wear an arah armor. Same time, confirm what i write, find a pug is rare, more rare find a pug able to kill him.

No punish. Just a way to discourage farmers.

We don’t know if the new patch will fix dungeon exploits. I doubt.

Crovack.3761:

You’re treating your playerbase like some sort of communist regime that would rather imprison tons of innocents than let one guilty person go free.

Funny interpretation of communist regime. Too many cartoons i guess

BTW, hey! It’s weekend, even devs have to go to disco, go drunk, find a girl etc.
They made loads of money with your accounts. Time to enjoyyyy.
They told us they are fixing, on monday “should” be ready and perfect. Maybe..

But hey, it’s weekend, c’mon. Deal with it, stop to play dungeons.
If grouping and DR is still malfunctioning, or new bugs pop , hey, just wait some more weeks, what’s the problem?
(I’m still wondering where 170 of 180 players of the guild i joined are, there are 7-10 online at best all day lol)

Don’t waste your time figuring it out. On monday this nightmare is finish.

They did yet. On monday patch DR and this problem should be fixed.

I know, i feel sorry for you. (Don’t be surprised, for most arah is a myth, that’s why you don’t see so many reports)