Guild Wars 2

Did we actually get an answer on this already?

Capricorn is a really enjoyable one tho, or is that just me?

Moonsinn.5382:

Warcry.1596:

I seldom land this skill. Know why? People can file their taxes and run a marathon before it finishes casting. It has a big tell and has a long cast time. The Times I DO land it… Yes, the fight swings in my team’s favor, but if it does land… It’s kind of deserved.

I tried reaper, and I was able to land it no problem. Same cast time as chaotic release with less of a tell.

Pretty much means your opponents were blindfolded.
Or they were to busy sipping on a coffee.

Obviously.

Warcry.1596:

I seldom land this skill. Know why? People can file their taxes and run a marathon before it finishes casting. It has a big tell and has a long cast time. The Times I DO land it… Yes, the fight swings in my team’s favor, but if it does land… It’s kind of deserved.

Exactly this.

It’s like, one of the easiest skills to avoid. Ever.
Dodge it, interrupt it, distort it, whut evs…

Amaimon.7823:

Haven’t run into it, but there’s still the issue that thieves can stomp from stealth which is just unneccessarily overpowered

You do realize you can get interrupted while stealth stomping right?

Apart from that:

-Druid can stealth stomp
-Mesmer can stealth stomp
-Engi can stealth stomp

- Pretty much anything can stealth stomp. The ones I’ve listed above are the ones with acces to stealth themselves.

- Stop the QQ’ing about thieves, they’re fine.

-No, I don’t main thief. I main Druid. And I eat thieves for breakfast. And I wouldn’t like to eat them for lunch and dinner as well, after they got nerved in to the ground.

Other than that, I also get the ridiculously bad players on the enemy team.
The ones that try to 3v1 me on far, but fail to kill me. The ones that push into a 1v1 against me on our home node, while it’s our cap.

Those matches end up with a 500 – 50/100 score. In our favor. But lets be honest. There’s no fun in that.

(Besides admitting the above, the ‘ridiculously bad players’, seem to be on my team more often as the other way around)

(Over 4k games)

I litteraly said this to a friend of mine lately:
“Perhaps I should become a fulltime pve’r”

Stuck in Gold t3 – Platinum t4, spending more time in Gold than Platinum. I get the kind of “thief should cap home” guys in my team. The Soloqueue hero’s, who run far at the start and lose their 1v1’s. The necro’s and dh’s that melt the first seconds of a teamfight.

Shortly. After two years, this season makes me close to giving up the pvp scene all together.

Shadowstep.6049:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Alot of what the op said is not true and is a myth. This game is a long way from being solved due to the fact there is literally no esports scene. Anyone with moba or fps experience will know what i mean, there is no gw2 pro community with players so amazing. Look at the fact some of the best players dont even use things like fast cast which automatically puts people below skill cap.

Either way, this means alot of myths have emerged such as thief is not good in team fights. Thief is great in team fights as when pressured people kite then the thief can finish them easily. The problem is thieves have an obsession with decapping after getting 1 kill in a team fight.

Secondly thief can kill anything 1v1 and should never die if played correctly. Imagine thks game had truely elite gamers playing it. I know this isnt the case but they would break thief. So it is ironic seeing the l2p arguements as if people are some gaming gods. I would love to see some real pros come over from dota for a year just to see how broken they could show things as.

Everyone in gw2 sucks. We are all bad to differing degrees. So saying it should be balanced around the top tier is stupid as the top tier doesnt represent facts. I also dont believe thief is bad at the top tier of gw2 anyway. I think it is the best class at all tiers and that is by grinding up from 1040 rating in ranked.

Thief is the best 1v1 class in the game, trust me. Look at their damage and sustain. Nobody can match it. Make the best 1v1 class in the game also have huge mobility and its an issue. For me the only 2 classes i cannot beat ever 1v1 is mesmer and thief.

I was about to give you 10/10 but then you failed me, Henry.

Poor Henry… Odd how thieves are ‘the best 1v1 class’, where do I buy those?

apharma.3741:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Implement voice comms in PvP and 5 randoms instanly become a communicating team.

Even if only 1 of the 5 has a mic.

Amazing.

Ele: “Hey guys, stick near me and I’ll heal you up!”

Warrior: “**** off you ********* ********, i **** yor mom!”

Ele: “Charming, lets just win ok?”

Ranger: (breathing)

Guardian: (screaming and shouting in the background) “SHUT UP MOM IM PLAYING MY ******* GAME!”

Ele: “So…..anyone got a plan?”

Ranger: (breathing intensifies)

Guardian: “Sorry I just had to SHUT UP MOM!! Sorry sorry, yeah I’ll go mid with you and the war.”

Warrior: “**** off you piece of ****”

Ele: “Sure ok.”

Ranger: (loud breathing)

Ele: “Are you ok druid?”

Ranger: "Es-tu une fille?

Ele: “errrrr”

Ranger: “Je ne parle que français”

Announcer: The match is about to begin!

This. Is gold.

Pure, fine, crafted gold.

I kind off needed this with ‘Blurri and Nothelseth’ fighting each other over thief being OP or not. Apart from that, let us queue with frands already. Jeez.

Emdrix.6124:

So that leaves thief with the role of decap and +1. Now can a thief really +1 effectlvely against top tier players than know how to kite and jumping puzzle on a bunker build? Nope. You cant kill a good engi even in a 1v2, same goes for druid. Because its too easy to reset yourself on a bunker build and troll the thief 1v2 and waste his time.

Where as I mostly agree with your post, this part bugged me a little.
Because no offense, but if you can’t kill an engi or druid in a 2v1, as a thief, you or your mate fighting with you, are plain bad.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Exedore.6320:

Magnito.6187:

I actually remember myself almost always teamqueueing back then, just because it was better pvp. (and that wasn’t always with a team myself)

Same. The old solo queue was complete crap. It was full of the “solo queue heroes” who didn’t care about working as a team to win the match. Meanwhile the team queue, even if you queued by yourself, was people who realized they needed to work together.

….

Working as intended?

Aye, with the only difference that now our ‘soloqueue hero’s’ actually moved to ranked.

Exedore.6320:

Magnito.6187:

I actually remember myself almost always teamqueueing back then, just because it was better pvp. (and that wasn’t always with a team myself)

Same. The old solo queue was complete crap. It was full of the “solo queue heroes” who didn’t care about working as a team to win the match. Meanwhile the team queue, even if you queued by yourself, was people who realized they needed to work together.

Perhaps because it was called ‘Teamqueue’

steelheart.7386:

There should be two options solo queue (for solos only) and team queue for anybody including solos. Thats the way it was a couple of years ago and it was fine. Many solos actually liked to queue for team queue because playing with coordinated mini groups was more fun for alot of people then the sometimes totally unorganized all solos queue.

I actually remember myself almost always teamqueueing back then, just because it was better pvp. (and that wasn’t always with a team myself)

Roxory.9854:

Magnito.6187:

Solo/Duoqueue.

A few months ago we all had a chance to vote wether we wanted ranked to be solo/duoqueue restricted. And honestly, I thought it was joke. I thought there was no way the majority would vote yes. An yet here we are.

Why should we be allowed to queue with a team again?

-It is a game mode where teamplay basically wins te game. (MIND BLOWN)
Yes, our PvP system is team oriented, yet we can’t form teams.

“But bro, it’s so unfair, you’ll meet teams while soloqueueing?!”

-Like our current matchmaking system is ‘fair’. Now you’re pretty much depending on the other 3-4 players in your team. And honestly, I have no words for what I sometimes meet in Gold/Platinum. It’s a joke.

-Grow a pair. No really, grow a pair. Either you soloqueue and whine about meeting a premade, or you just invest time and effort on finding players to play with you. You don’t even need a fixed team or anything like that. You just have to make some ‘friends’ to play with. A PvP guild even.. Can’t be so hard.

Please, bring back teamqueue. Bring back the ‘good’ PvP we had a few years ago. Where you played with some friends, having fun, no matter if you lost or won, but enjoyed it. Laughed with eachothers mistakes, improved and moved on. (Back then there was like a lot less toxicism as well imo)

Greetings,

Vex.

Absolutely agree, you have team based maps that take stategy, placement and most of all teamwork to win but don’t let teams play?? Another good point is different chars can boost, combo, create boons, ect, ect… for other chars on your team. If you are to be ranked upon your teams performance, basically wins or losses, then you should be able to choose your team right?

There is a simple solution for all this bs currently playing out…

Create a 1 person que mode, ranked with leaderboards and create a 5 person team mode, ranked with leaderboards.

Allowing a 2 que immediately puts the solo qu person at a disasvantage.

Take away the gold and new rewards too, pvp is turning into a noob farm for shiny things. The goal should be good competition not gold farming!

To top it off the lack of communication and coordination in games is really, really bad atm. The only talking that I see is mostly insults and people freaking out mid match and typing a paragraph in the chat box about how much their team sucks and so an so is an idiot and so on.

Yes, yes and yes.
But completely cutting teamqueue out of the image, is plain dumb.
If you want teams to play as teams, grow and be competitive, there needs to be a motivation. Why on earths name would any team right now play unranked? To farm? Unranked is a total joke, scrims are unexistend.

mrauls.6519:

They just need to make it strictly solo queue. That way, players that would have otherwise been in a premade together have a chance of fighting one another

Words come short…

It is a game mode where -teamplay- wins the game. I’m as we speak in Gold/Platinum, bouncing in between those and I rarely see teamplay happening. 1v1 hero’s, aye, lot’s of them. Have like, any of you played like, a year ago? It used to be fun. You’d logg in, see whoever of your friends you could gather to pvp with and actually improve together. Why would you WANT to be dependend on 4 other (of which usually 1+ are bad, because rating doesn’t mean a thing) random players?

Essence Snow.3194:

Here’s a point not mentioned.

The vast majority of pvp players solo or duo queue. That population is what is keeping GW2 pvp alive. Without them queues become horribly long and pvp suffers. That is why they need to cater to solo and duo queuers.

In that case, quantity goes over quality.
I’d rather have a decent match with a 5 minute queue,
than a screwed up match with a 1 minute queue.

Sinmir.6504:

Not too sure now, there is another thread where apparently a person got the armour swapped.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Change-Ascended-Armor-Stat-Problems/first#post6457702
In the screenshot you can see it is Ardent but we don’t know if it was Ardent or Illustrious for the player who got it changed manually.

If they really did change it manually, and if it was Ardent, we can assume it was not intended. We’re having a big question mark here, help us out devs!

Oh and also, for those who made a “I end up against 2x Duoqueuers and it’s unfair”

Magnito.6187:

Yeah, remove the last tiny bit of interactive teamplay you can have, in a team oriented game mode! And nerf everything besides my class! Everything is OP and there’s no way that I’m just not good enough. There has to be done something about everything I can’t counter, because hell it’s not like I can improve any further!

(P.S. Ever tried finding a friend to queue with? It’s fun! It’s also what you’re supposed to do. Oh and, ha, at the start of Guild Wars 2, it was even intended that you’d look for a team to play with. Isn’t that silly? Ha!)

Way to go guys… Waaaay to go..

Please.

I hope our Devs stop promoting lazyness.

Yeah, remove the last tiny bit of interactive teamplay you can have, in a team oriented game mode! And nerf everything besides my class! Everything is OP and there’s no way that I’m just not good enough. There has to be done something about everything I can’t counter, because hell it’s not like I can improve any further!

(P.S. Ever tried finding a friend to queue with? It’s fun! It’s also what you’re supposed to do. Oh and, ha, at the start of Guild Wars 2, it was even intended that you’d look for a team to play with. Isn’t that silly? Ha!)

Way to go guys… Waaaay to go..

Pifil.5193:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

if it is intentional then those cannot be classified as ascended gear since ascended gear can be mystic forgeable in order to change their stats.

So, before they added the ability to change stats on ascended weapons and armour in the mystic forge were they not ascended either? Are trinkets not ascended?

They’re ascended because their stats are ascended (ie greater than exotic) and not because of the stat change functionality.

Pretty much just want to know if it’s intentional or not. I think we all agree that it’s ascended armor. I just don’t really see why those wouldn’t be changeable, as we can be honest, getting ascended armor through raids and fractals ain’t very hard either.

Exedore.6320:

Solo/Duo queue just encourages the “solo queue hero” mentality: try to 1v1 everything, put winning fights over taking/holding nodes, ignore the rest of the team, etc. Then they turn around and blame the rest of the team for their loss.

The reason solo/duo queue won a simple majority was because players blamed playing enemy teams for their losses, rather than their own lack of skill and teamwork. It’s the same people who now whine that duo queue and class stacking are unfair.

Exactly. This.
Only ‘blaming the enemy team’ became ‘blaming anyone but myself’ now.

For example:
(Our team comp: Thief, Druid(me), DH, Rev and Engi)
At the end of a very tight match I played recently the following happened; We have a huge mid fight going on, but manage to win that team fight. So at this point we have mid and home secured. Our Engi and Rev decide to push far, while our DH gets pushed by two people at home. (I litteraly said: “don’t overextend far, lads”)
Now, our thief runs to help out home, but by the time he gets there, our DH is dead. I see our DH is dead, so knowing our thief is in a 2v1, I’m already on my way to help home. I get there and me and the thief manage to kill 1 on home. A bit later, our thief dies as well, off point as he tried to escape. (on a note: he kept the point capped in a 2v1 in the opponents favor) I secure the cap on home and see that in the meanwhile our engi and rev died on far, and our DH is losing the cap on mid as he gets zerged there.

The match ended with us losing. The engi said: ‘kitten you, useless thief, dieing in a 2v1’
Not only were the engi and rev the actual reason of the screw up, he blamed our thief, the guy, who kept a cap on our homepoint, against two guys for a solid 10 seconds.

They wanted to be the ‘solo/duoqueue hero’s’, willing to win a 2v3 in the opponents favor (kitten?!) on far.

And this is exactly the reason, why I, as a Guild Wars pvp’er, want to be able to chose who I play with. So I don’t end up with morons.

Emdrix.6124:

SkipperCZ.6912:

They were able to do it in “pips” system. They will not be able to do it in this “new” system. Ofc they will cary some ppl higher, but not that much.

Its gonna be super easy to farm the new system aswell. 5 man premade on voice coms farming pugs is not interesting. If u want to team Q, organize scrims or participate in tournaments. The Qs should be solo Q only anyway.

If you want to participate in a team oriented PvP mode, form a team. Goes around the same way pretty much. I don’t get why people are worried about less good players being carried into a higher division. If you get a premade as well and kick their kitten (assuming you do, as they have 1 noob on their team) they’ll drop out of the higher division.

Scykosix.7836:

If u want to have fun bashing soloQ while you premade then the answer is no. However i dont mind adding SEPERATE teamQ even though you will probably struggle in 20 minute queues.

Nope. Not about ‘having fun bashing soloQ’ at all. Over the past year I’ve been solo/duoqueueing the majority of the time. And to be honest, I didn’t mind ending up against a premade. Because they did take the effort to be playing as a team in a team oriented game mode. Makes sense, right? Having it back should encourage people to get together. Like it used to do. Back at the start of PvP.

(not to mention ending up against a premade doesn’t mean an instant loss.)

Rickster.8752:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Or just dodge it, block it, reflect it, destroy it, apply Stability, use an Invuln. And so on there’s counter play to it just saying.

Let the salt flow!!!

That is my point. You should be able to dodge it. Hence why a 0.75s cast time is fair to all concerned.

Pulmonary impact doesn’t even proc if you aren’t casting a skill..
With other words, there’s no point dodging headshot if you’re not casting a skill.

#notathiefplayer

Solo/Duoqueue.

A few months ago we all had a chance to vote wether we wanted ranked to be solo/duoqueue restricted. And honestly, I thought it was joke. I thought there was no way the majority would vote yes. An yet here we are.

Why should we be allowed to queue with a team again?

-It is a game mode where teamplay basically wins te game. (MIND BLOWN)
Yes, our PvP system is team oriented, yet we can’t form teams.

“But bro, it’s so unfair, you’ll meet teams while soloqueueing?!”

-Like our current matchmaking system is ‘fair’. Now you’re pretty much depending on the other 3-4 players in your team. And honestly, I have no words for what I sometimes meet in Gold/Platinum. It’s a joke.

-Grow a pair. No really, grow a pair. Either you soloqueue and whine about meeting a premade, or you just invest time and effort on finding players to play with you. You don’t even need a fixed team or anything like that. You just have to make some ‘friends’ to play with. A PvP guild even.. Can’t be so hard.

Please, bring back teamqueue. Bring back the ‘good’ PvP we had a few years ago. Where you played with some friends, having fun, no matter if you lost or won, but enjoyed it. Laughed with eachothers mistakes, improved and moved on. (Back then there was like a lot less toxicism as well imo)

Greetings,

Vex.

So is this intended or not?

Pretty much any other ascended armorpiece has the ability to be transformed into other stats using the mystic forge. Why doesn’t it work for the Pvp ardent armor?

Vykoz.7803:

I dont know what they are talking about with bronze hell etc either, sure you can get unlucky but in general, if youre above the skill level of your current division, you will slaughter your opponents like they cant play.

Qualifiers put me in top bronze, which was quite hilarious, i slaughtered so many people through bronze, silver, straight into gold, like they couldnt play. (that was in a day and on thief luls)

People complaining about being stuck in bronze hell are seriously just like the baddies i slaughtered, they are just too stuck up to admit it to themselves.

I think this is exactly the reason we havent had a system like this before, ANET knew from statistics how many would be at rock bottom and the tears it would bring, but people have asked for it, so now its here and you can finally see how much you suck.

gg merry christmas.!

I’ve been stuck in gold and never got out of it. You can slaughter people from the other team. Yes. But if the other four people on your side get slaughtered as well, there ain’t much to do about it.

Either I don’t belong in gold, either some other people don’t belong in gold. But some guys still thinking that a thief should cap home or that you should never ever push far, are plain dumb. (or take 2 minutes to kill 1 guy with three people)

I’m not the greatest player. But what I’ve seen passing by in gold… I have no words.

Stormbow. Please Stormbow.

And here’s why:

-It’s pretty stormy weather outside.
-I played Guild Wars right from the start. As in, Guild Wars one,
not having that Stormbow as a dedicated Guild Wars fan, is a shame.
(I missed out on it while it was on the Gemstore)

Kind regards,

Vex.

(Please Stormbow. Please. I beg you. I’m on my knees)

Mr Godlike.6098:

Is this another tread ,,plz nerf classes that i don’t play, "?

It is. Sadly enough.

Malediktus.9250:

I think high mobility needs to be nerfed.

Suggestions:
- Half range of blinks, teleports and mesmer portals (pvp only)
- Decapping points should take the same amount of time as capping it (or at least significantly longer than now)
- Blinks and teleports should only work as a gap closer and not to take shortcuts via vertical position changes. Eg. A dragon hunter should not be able to stand at below or next to the clocktower on Khylo and teleport right on point. No shortcut should be able to save more than 3 seconds of time.
- Blinking/teleporting should cancel all skills including stomps. No more save stomping by using double blinks!

Yeah! Get rid of mesmers and thieves! Make necro great again!
You sir, are nuts.

Take away mobility and you take away the role of two classes (especially thief) and make them utterly useless. Mesmer could perhaps deal with it. Thieves won’t, as they have no way to survive bigger fights, apart from their capability to get out of them real quick when needed. The mobility is what makes the ‘diversity’ here. I guess, you could just, learn to play as well.

p.s. I do not main any of the above mentioned classes. I do main druid, who’s rather high on mobility, but has no shadow steps or such, but instead of that, they got one hell of a sustainability. And that’s how it’s supposed to be. You give up survivability for mobility, damage for survivability, … It’s called build diversity. Bai.

Evan Lesh.3295:

News about season 5 is coming very Soon™!

GIVE US THE NEWS ALREADY!

p.s. Much love and such.

Mem no Fushia.7604:

Very short match – enemy team die end of match. No respawn. Winners stays on map. And are revived. Next match starts. There is only solo. Like Random Arenas in gw1. Short map so adjust reward. Next to game mode types set: conquest/stronghold/deathmatch or annihilation.

In hotm there is ruins of obrin or something like that. Its fit to be number 2 map for that mode.

Major thing of it both maps doesn’t need strutural changes. So implementing can be fast.

Exactly that! kitten I’d love to have that system back. Tho, don’t misunderstand me, I do love conquest as well!

ReaverKane.7598:

Ok, maybe i misread it, but doesn’t

Would restricting queuing for ranked matches to only one or two player groups for Season 5 improve the PvP experience?

read pretty much:
Do you want ranked to be either SOLO/DUO or TEAMS?
If i understood it right, i’m afraid others didn’t, because i can’t see how 80% of people DON’T want to play team pvp.
Sure separate queues SHOULD be implemented, but not have a either/or situation.
I mean if you do this, how do you even put stuff like guild teams and Challengers in that equation?

Would be awesome if we got some clarification on that.

I had to read it twice as well. Considering the amount of ‘yes’ voters, kind of a lot people misread it. Or they’re salty as they can’t find a team.

As for me, I haven’t been in a team for ages. And to be honest, I don’t mind. I don’t mind ending up against a full team either. It makes it more challenging.

And also: Why on earths name would GW2 discourage teamplay, in a pop mode where it is so important to work all tighter with 5 people..

And where’s the room for new teams to improve if you can only queue solo or duo? That means decent teams of five people have no chance whatsoever to practice and get better to enter the ESL tournaments, because, let’s be honest, there’s no ‘practice’ in unranked queueing as a 5 man pre-made…

Ohoni.6057:

Peopel who don’t like PvP should not have to play PvP just because they want to have a certain weapon or armor skin. They should have options.

People who don’t like Pve should not have to play Pve just because they want to have a certain weapon or amor skin. They should have options.

Funny, it works the other way around as well!
And it’s been like that for years. Might want to keep some rewards in PvP, while we have them.

Unterkiefer.8372:

Players: we don’t like condition mesmer it requires no skill
ArenaNet : no problem, here is a power/interrupt alternative
Players: mesmer has a possible power-build? It’s op
Me thinking: maybe the hate does not stem from what we do but who we are…

Exactly that.
Jesus Christ be grateful we finally get to play power shatter again!

Very enjoyable indeed!

I’ve played mesmer in pop for about 2 years and might pop in every now and then in wvw. What set up are you running with? It seems quite similar to the power shatter in pop, right?

Still waiting for the wizard hat… :/

Kako.1930:

Idk, it would probably make our characters all bald while wearing it so I’m not sure if I’d really like that. :/

But then again.. You could hide it and your hair would remain the same…

That last suggestion might even be the better solution,
as somewhere in the future they could create a Bowler Hat as a headpiece skin. Just like the monocole, top hat, … And everyone remains happy. And outfits get adjustable, not too much, but enough to make sure you can still create your own look.

Thumbs up, keep this going! Me likey!

But a bowler hat tho…. :/
However, I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who’d like to see a headpiece added to the outfit. Or have the ability to add armor headpieces to outfits.

Well, you could always hide it.. The hat..

Wizard hat!

And also add a Bowler Hat to the noble count outfit.

Thanks.

Yiss! Though I do not know how hard it is/how long it takes to actually design something like that. As the outfit is already made…

And that’s why we need a dev in here!

And also this: + this topic like mad and crazy people, so it doesn’t get unnoticed by the devs :/

Dear Everyone,

A few days ago I bought the “Noble Count” outfit.
But what occurs to me:

It is the only outfit without a headpiece.

Therefore I have a stylish and awesome suggestion: THE BOWLER HAT.

First of all, imagine how awesome it would look with a bowler hat.
Secondly, come on, why wouldn’t you give the outfit a headpiece?
and last but not least, if you don’t like a hat on the outfit, toggle it of, like with any other headpiece.

For those who may not know what a bowler hat is: Check the attachment!

Please considder this.

Kind Regards,

Vex, Vindex, Magnito

(P.s.:don’t completely cover the ears on Asuran though)

VaaCrow.3076:

Oh no, you will have to play the new content, woe is me.

Buck up and do a bit of pve, it wont kill you.

Grinding the events over and over again, hoping they’ll reach t4 ain’t “a bit”

Hai!

Short introduction: I’ve been playing Guild wars2 for about two years
and all I’ve been busy with is pvp.

So I was completing a pvp reward track, rewarding me with the Bladed Gauntlets.
I felt like “oh wow, that’s a nice looking armor set!”
So I started looking around what I had to do to get the rest of the set.

It happens to be a complete pve grind to get the full set.
Why would you do that? Why would you force pvp players to do pve,
just because they want to make their character fashionable?

Back to verdant brink, sigh,

bubai.

Iavra.8510:

I still think Chrono would be very strong without it, but then the other Specializations have their own op stuff, so eh…i don’t really care, now.

What he said!

Small edit, we’re looking again!