Guild Wars 2

endless cat tonic is not garbage and neither is chauncy von snuffles III
T_T

As long as you get the chest from the dragons you getting that “good” loot.. so heres what you do mk.. you do 15k damage maybe.. more or less to get bronze on the event, then you go kill the 1000 mobs that spawn with the event. tons and tons of loot. especially if you have a group of 5 doing this with you. little harder than chickens perhaps.. but you do get a tiny higher chance of rare exotic if you do that and get the dragon chest.

i go full survivability. I use the runes of mercy with power tough vitality build. staff, focus scepter or focus sword. use the GS on occasion when i find it useful. clones give regen per attack and random conditions on death, this with staff 5, 4, and 1 giving everyone loads of buffs. The group i run with uses combo finishers in all my combo fields for the addition buffs too.. but we have been doing dungeons together for months now. my primary goals are always to keep the team alive and keep illusions/wardens out. (the guardian i run with is the same build type so the entire team has full buffs basically the entire time.. This build is not the best for pug groups.. i have another set for that which is still survivability but with higher damage output.

ouh, i never had sylvari smoke, how’s the smokey taste compared to mesquite?.. which i quite like btw.

Tengu- top choice.. they are awesome.. reminds me of Falco from Star fox … lol

Largos- only if they were purcase only in the store.. because they don’t often go among land dwellers.

skritt- they already have a colony as big as any city, would be awesome to run around as a skritt. doing all that.. skritt stuff.

marnick.4305:

exocet.6308:

Oh dear, not this again. Ok man, you were right and I’m sorry. I was wrong to say 1h per day. I’m sure many have worked out their unique spots and pattern that enables them to their dailies in under 30 minutes. Can we discuss about the fact that it still takes 20 days of uninterrupted daily logins which is the actual topic? What’s your Pro and Cons on this?

It does not take uninterrupted logins. You can spread them out. Your “fact” isn’t a real thing, it is an illusion you’re creating for yourself.

As such, discussing pros and cons about an issue that doesn’t exist, is irrelevant.

If you still have an issue about not getting gear yesterday, google content locust and read the first 4 links. There’s a very good reason why laurels are calender gated.

oh dang. so that is what you call them people. content locusts i like that…
the article i read said something about asceneded gear coming out over the course of a year.. read it if you like. makes me feel bad for them people.

It is so much better to play just 30 minutes or an hour every day and to know i can’t get this item any faster.. than to stand in one spot for a weeks just killing the same monster till i quit because it is too mind numbingly boring. People don’t want to grind, people do want do play the game very much.. but still want the best gear and stuff.. this is the only game i have played that allows such a thing. its absolutely fantastic.

who still wants to go kill 50000 enemies just for that one last level or extremely low change of fancy gear? seems like they forgot what real grinding was.. if they even ever played any games that actually required it. *cough knight online, fiesta, runescape *cough, fantasy earth zero, twelvesky *cough …… and that just to name a few… seriously.. sit back, enjoy the game do what you like to do…

you are talking about the arah dungeon story mode? if so… you can replay all dungeon story modes… including Arah ._.

RoRo.8270:

top is beta

15charr

Don’t you just love the mesmer masks

Am I the only one that stays in jumping puzzles looking around for extra stuff that may be in there like secret hidden stuff? trying to take impossible jumps just to get somewhere and then think ‘haha, i bet the dev’s didn’t think i could get here’.. mostly i am stopped by well placed stuff just far enough to not make it or the invisible walls.
Also i love sitting at the end of a puzzle as a mesmer watching people fail for like 30 minutes before offering a portal :P

Was i supposed to be able to get here? tippy top of goemm’s lab
hehe

bleh… the medium armor head gear… they are so ugly i think -_- i just go for the gloves and top then the rest TA armor.

FateZero.8536:

I knew there will be people like you. I’ve prepared in advanced enjoy.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-27-arenanet-holds-frank-reddit-debate-on-guild-wars-2-loot-grind

This is awesome. thanks for link

Roughneck.2509:

I don’t understand why they keep putting dungeons on the monthly…

No, I would rather have no dungeons in monthly/daily requirements whatsoever. Same for WvW. I loathe doing dungeons, others hate WvW. Things such as Monthlies and Dailies should be achieveable for every type of player.

• (could be something else so that lowbies can also complete it, but you get the idea: some outdoor PVE)* events.

Ok, so i finally understand. Dungeons and WvW are not in the PvE world. so people don’t want them. They have salvages this month, they did events also.. those are all PvE, they did Jumping puzzles last month(which i enjoyed but many still complained about that) those are PvE. gathering, crafting, kills, dodge, events, and vetrans are in your dailies.. and they added ‘complete 5 dailies’…. ok great there you have 4 things for PvE monthlies that cover just about everything you can possibly do in PvE. If that was all there was every month i might actually get bored of it and not do them. jumping puzzles every month would become very tiresome. 3 things for monthlies would be too easy for a monthly reward and they would most likely increase the amount of time you do those 3 things(thus people would complain). I don’t see a way to win.

all this and not even slight consideration to the people that only do dungeon runs. Do they want to go out of their way just to gather 20 things every day for a daily(i actually don’t think i have seen a complaint from that side)

I actually like the way the armor looks on the first picture. your character looks like a Sylvarian warrior type. the second picture all i can see is your personal preference, which sure, it does look good, but it is not Sylvarian.

Its all good though because that is what being a Sylvari is all about.

my favorite one i have found so far is well
“heyyyy youu guyysss”

you would know what i mean if you been there :P I also loved the extra bit you could climb at the end of the wintersday JP.. got some nice pictures with guildies. but yeah.. all jumping puzzles are amazing.. i love them all and really should look for more of them.

I thought it would be great to join the nightmare court. But every time i tried.. they pushed me away, tried to kill me… and denied any moves i made toward them.. Then i finally got to Twilight Arbor with Caithe. The 3 paths… the nightmare court thought that if they got smushed by a tree they would take over all of tyria.. only to be stopped by 6 people. after that i just decided nightmare court was too lame and moved on to bigger better things -like dragons.

My second sylvari though, she is just insane.. Just runs around exploring everything.. just .. lighting lighting it all on fire with her flame thrower. not even sure the nightmare court would even want her. specially after what she has done to some of their camps.

I thought this was something that happened on every server. Gates of madness is fairly good karma train in orr it just dies off later at night and most the day- get on around daily reset and that is probably best.

that is fairly rude.

I think the dagger is awesome. but in the end i would suggest you should probably get the one for the class you enjoy playing more ._.

I am mesmer and port people through jumping puzzles every chance i get.. lol. If it is an exploit then they might as well take away my portal.. it is all i use it for. or .. maybe ban me.=\

about the dungeons thing.. COF path 1. go to gw2lfg.com and get into one of them path1 farming groups(maybe learn the dungeon first) You can seriously complete it in 15 minutes- one guy left my group once because he wanted a group that did 8 minute runs. 5 cof path 1’s.. boring easy dungeon but you have a month to do it.. at most it would take 2 hours even with a less experienced group.

people talking about AC.. i find that dungeon to be challenging.. you might hate dungeons because you started there.

nothing else to use karma on? 4 exotic armors.. put in forge-sell obtained item? i have not done that with karma armor but i have with my excessive amount of dungeon token stuffs. 4 focuses only 840 tokens=4 gold for a pearly focus thinger…
correct me if i’m wrong but.. can’t you do that with karma armor?

I know it is a personal story and all.. but It took me hours and hours.. and hours to complete the story. along the way i made some friends, joined a guild and socialized with people.. kinda like how i think i would do stuff in real life… if gw2 was real. Along the way up with my accumulated friends occasionally we would be exploring together and what do you know. my story instance is right here. “hey friend, wanna join me in the story quest for a bit” -friend-" sure thing buddy" *goes and completes story enjoying small talk and company of friend.

It is just so odd for me to see these posts about people not wanting to play with other people in a “massive multi-player online role playing game” (it wouldn’t hurt if the npc’s were more useful at then end though)

The sylvari caught my eye, they looked so unique that i couldnt pass it up. then i got into the idea and the lore. You can go anywhere and do anything you want with a sylvari just because it is the nature of a curios being. I love it

dispite my name… i do have a charr, they are just too war bound for my liking though. =\

I know a few people in my guild and even myself feel that legendary weapons would be so much more epic if they had individual stories to obtain the precursor. Like how the summed up the story line with something you need 5 people for. some sort of quest you unlock after hitting level 80 and get 100% map completion.. something you can complete more than once perhaps.(less epic.. but still.) Oh, The satisfaction i would get from completing a nearly impossible quest to get a precursor. then i could really be proud to show off my legendary weapon.

sigh* — too much day dreaming of gw2 lore.

oh yeah. awesome.

lets complain about diamonds while were at it. I can’t stand the people who bought out all the diamond mines and then regulated the supply to keep prices high.. kitten broken economy.

Yeah, my monthlies are done already too.. i didnt even do anything i don’t normally do. I always have salvaged everything. In the last patch they did a large amount of updates to all the dungeons making some dungeons very very easy, some so much so that i didn’t even enjoy them as much as i used to. The developers did a lot and putting that into monthlies is just to give people some extra motivation to go on and try them out again(or for once) check out their hard work for you. but yeah, people still complain.

good enough for me. thanks..
get any further into it and they might as well make a new language and rename everything for no reason other than to be translated to English/(other languages) again.

sometimes i prefer ctrl+shift+h .. my keyboard buttons aren’t going anywhere but not seeing my health or chat is a little annoying too. ….. or attacking creatures that actually have green names and not knowing. I actually know 4 other people in my guild that are OCD about it also and just want to get it off the screen.

Knox.3748:

So you want to get shinies just by running around the map. You are funny bro. Keep the jokes coming.

hahaha, exactly why they should make Skritt a playable class. maybe even add legendary and ascended sticks and rocks you can just pick up anywhere.

now… we live on earth.. thus we call the ground ‘earth’ right? why is it that in Tyria it is called earth spells.. and the season of tyria are earth, water, wind and fire?

wouldn’t it be better if it were Tyria, wind, water, and fire? ..
(._. ) yeah… its kinda pointless. but i wanna know..

IndigoSundown.5419:

Chickenshoes.6250:

IndigoSundown.5419:

Part of the promise about Ascended items was that they would be available in other ways than through the Fractals dungeon. This was presumably to accommodate players who prefer doing something other than dungeons. This is the first monthly after the new laurel-bought Ascended items have been introduced. Given all of the above, I find it ironic that one of the requirements is dungeon participation.

Except you can completely ignore the monthly and get laurels through dailies. No monthly requirement.

oh noes

This does not make it less ironic, sorry.

There’s no daily requirement either, no requirement to collect laurels, no requirement to get Ascended items, no requirement to even play the game. It’s not about required or optional, or about needs. It is about wants.

monthly achievements:

• Dungeon is too boring/whatever
• wvw is too lame/whater
  so on and so forth….
• solution: don’t do them, stay happy because you are not bored/whatever.?
  -the issue is you don’t get rewarded…. but you are happy you didnt have to grind through hours of boring/whatever monthly achievements right? I guess you will just have to suffer more fun filled hours of game play, doing dailies that you find agreeable until you can get the items you like.

it is monthly achievements. what are you achieving if you just do what you always do and get extra rewards for it… If i play a different game and see the achievements and don’t want to do them but really really want the “reward” form doing them. i don’t head off to the game’s forums and demand them change it, nor do i go and complain that they are too hard. i simply don’t do them. (oh no! that’s irrelevant)…….

yay! I like. keep
^ that is all..

well, i know how to make it kind of pollen effect as of 28th of jan. Buy the broom, ride it and /dance while on the broom -pollen(dirty) effect

I can’t even tell you how sick of reading all of the complaints on the forums i am.

• use a skill
• use heal
• use an emote
• change to your town clothes
• walk for 10 seconds
• say something in chat within 10 seconds of another person saying something.
  ^_^

how bad do you want laurels, karma and.. what ever else you get with monthlies? Bad enough to actually do the things you don’t like to do? .. making the game feel like a grind, making you want to quit the game? If the monthlies are an issue for you there, then don’t do them. I hate making my fun filled gaming time feel like work.. if i wanted to work i would go to work..on my off time… I seriously don’t force myself to do things in a game if i am not interested in them.. and if i miss out on something because of it then oh well, its a game.

there was a game i played that i forgot the name of completely.. but anyway.. you had a portalble house you could take with you anywhere. you pop it up go inside and you could customize everything, make beds, walls, bathrooms, kitchens, living rooms, basements, 2nd floor, and everything you need to create the things., forges, work benches, electrical equipment to make stuff like computers and tvs… very very intricate housing system.. 2d game. but it was soooo fun for me. when you used your house, it was just this little hut icon that you could eventually change to look like a house or some other things. if they put that into this game i would probably just die. it didnt change city dynamics.. it was more houses every where than people though.(you could still go into peoples houses,talk to them or just look around(also could lock your house))

Oh, what a laugh i have had reading all these posts. So much complaining.. lol

The dailies, i think, have implemented the use of teamwork, game features long ignored by most, and variety.

• “I hate crafting.. but you know.. i think i can refine 20 copper ores for my dailies.. or even buy 20 leather scaps for 2.96 silver for my dailies.”
• “oh look.. dead NPC’s at 1/5 of my events i have to do.. *kills 30 mobs to complete the 1 event”
• “how dandy is this, there is stuff to gather while i run around to complete my events.”
• “80% of dailies are done.. whats left?… talk to laurels guy.. mk /g “where is laurels guy?” guildie "in lion arch at [linked wp] "oh great, i was going to go to the bank anyway in LA *enter heart of mist and go to lion arch *switch to town clothes and ride broom to laurels guy "

…………….. yeah. You can always play the way you want to play.. but the thing is you dont get stuff for free. you want a reward, you go out of your way to get it-as is life. (i may be bias because… i will do anything for endless mystery cat tonic in 3 months ._. .. I also have no ascended gear and want them but still said screw it, i want tonic ^^)

GJ anet, i like where this is going keep up the good works

ok i finally trying out your build here…. i like it. live longer than with my build. I changed it up a little though. Scepter/sword staff- then did retaliatory shield in there. pretty darn fun thanks for the share man.

I like mounts for the same reason i like legendary weapons.. they look good(mostly) its another thing to add to my person beyond armor, weapons, minis and town clothes(yeah … that’s a lot of stuff already) I could care less if they actually did anything for me… and I would buy gems.. with all my gold… maybe money.. to get a flashy mount just like i did for town clothes… ( ._.)

Ayrilana.1396:

There was a reason why I brought up that instances where no drops or drops that don’t fit into the categories. If you don’t include those then all you’re doing is comparing the percentage of one category to another. You’re not really finding DR.

? my spreadsheet goes off a formula that starts with the % of drop/no drop from kills. say you have a 75/100 (lootable/kills) then it catagorizes the loot into % of that … simpler version … 2 kills.. only 1 of the 2 you get loot from. you get 2 items 1 junk and 1 basic. your drop rate is 25 junk and 25% basic.

(if i’m still missing the point… do you mind giving me the dumbed down version so i can understand… lol.. sorry)

I’m sad because there is a horse.. but no mounts………. BUT i remember this picture i seen in the past andddd…. i know what i want! Endless kitty tonics! Chauncey von Snuffles III, Obsidian Shards!, unidentified dyes(…maybe)Class SPECIFIC gear chests

T ,T I do hope this stuff is actually there.

Alright. i realized that there are way to many variables to consider for a 100% accurate DR record. So i am settling with my play style and the drop i receive from it. I am a big dungeon runner. mostly AC, COE, COF, SE and TA.. not so much the others but do still run them occasionally. I finally got to fractals level 2 after 9 different runs since the release.. but just in that i got 1 ascended craft item.^^ I also partake in the dragon events because i heard they drop pre-coursers. I’ve been getting into WvW.. and also do some of the events in orr when friends ask for help. So.. yeah, that is what my data is going to be on. from memory I get quite a few rare drops.. some days upwards of 5 and other days 0. going to be interesting to log my loot.. haha.

thanks infernia.

hmmmmmm. my plan is just to take every item i get and count it. no matter where it is from. But i will keep track of how many chest I open and all that. i could add a row for chests…. i think i will.

i did just remember also that my guild basically always has 10% MF buff on.. so yeah, that alters the data.. i can factor that and take it out afterwords

OK now the thing is, i separate chests from kills and that makes a lot of m categories pretty… useless. Working on a simplified version with

• Dungeons
• Fractals (for the ascended)
• Tyria
• WvW(just remember that one)

Im just going to go with this .. cause the other ones.. i look at and it just seems like it would take so long. not like this one is not going to be time consuming.

and finally here be the link to google dox, i set viewing to all.. but if you have issues opening it and want to get it please tell me.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgyVGyvolSX8dFFDcW1IeTVMbkZncG00S2xOcGsycWc

go to file>download as> (whatever you use.)

This thread was meant to be a constructive thread. thought it would be nice to provide people with a excel spreadsheet and maybe even compile our data to get some mostly accurate data on drop rates. I know if i did this myself it would not be -conclusive data-

If you intend to use this to provide falsified data then i urge you to use some self control and not.

ouh. i did forget junk items. will add that also.

If i did kill count i would go on that instead of in game hours(hard as it may be.). I think i’ll do that actually and make the spreadsheet for that. I will also add wvw in there. perhaps also the number of chests opened.

Jrunyon.3012:

With the internet and anonymity, the concept of integrity goes out the window in a lot of cases. While I agree that your idea would be good, there is just far too many people that will use this to try and bolster their own biased opinion. Unfortunately, this makes the actual people with integrity suffer due to their findings having no merit.

very true. I enjoy doing stuff like this sometimes though and I’m most likely not the only one. Thus i leave this up for those other people who also like it and would actually spend the time to provide other with the most accurate data they can manage.

Jrunyon.3012:

Nothing like this will ever work ever. Whats stopping me from saying that I got 2 exotics from 1 event? Can you disprove it? You can say it’s impossible, but its not. You can say I must be lying, but I can come right back and say you’re lying about not receiving an exotic in 500 hours.

As much as I wish to see the results of it, community reports on such a small scale simply can’t be used as a definite, concrete measure.

there is a think called integrity.
i could have 500 hours of video evidence and people could still say it is altered/fake..
but hey, here is some way to help out and add to the cause.

oh man.. you put no drops in there.. then you need # of kills… could certainly add those. that would increase hours in game significantly without secondary monitor at the least. paper/pencil would suffice. very difficult to track kills in dynamic events though.

items that do not fall under the categories listed? is that like a loot bag(moldy bag)? if so my intention would be to open them and categorize from there.

Hawkmoon.5849:

Should put it up on google docs, then people could download a copy without messaging you.

Just a thought.

yeah. gonna do that later. can’t access that right now.

I create this topic as to not fill the “Share your data about perceived strange drop behavior here!” topic with -related- material.

Lots of people with personal experiences on their drop rates with no real data to support it. I’ve completed the layout for my DR on a excel spreadsheet and will begin filling it out. It’s fairly basic but will log my hours played based on /age in game. it keeps dynamic events separate from world exploring, dungeons, and even dragon events. Also including the number of time i participate in the things mentioned. (Perhaps a section for load stones could be put in)The idea is to log how many of each class of item i get from each event to create the DR%.
Perhaps over 100 hours in game…
No intentions to do difference between 0% MF and x% MF.. too much time required for just me.

Now then. the idea here is to collect your accurate, concrete data that is asked for in the “Share your data about perceived strange drop behavior here!” topic and then to post your data there.