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I feel honoured that a whole zerg (and at one instance two at once) were dedicated to take out 8 players
Much love <3
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I was first frightened and then had a good laugh
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Props to [roam] for invading our homeland security —> spawn
P.s. Yesterday I felt the pain of the Necro Sisters…
This is how I felt:
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Clearly
Luckily I keep vigil while you sleep.
The watchful cat-hound never fails
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Usually I don’t find these all that funny but this was pretty good.
Should I be creeped out? D_D
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That was the first night that our group had ever ran together, not to mention i was on my engy for the first time in 4 months >.> Actually having to go back to a condition build, power necros are lacking…
So yeah…that warrior mobility….
You were that engi? :o Didn’t seem too rusty..
No more power Necro? No moar getting 3-shotted by your Lich Forms… thank god
So yeah… I felt the love of dat focus targeting >.< <3
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Hello
For those who are interested, here is a little fun time we had yesterday (or was it the day before…). Enjoy:
P.s. Props to tha’ necro sistas’
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Whew… my brain is overworked from being constantly on hyper-mode tonight. Great GvGs with both [Yarr] and [BS]. Very, very fun times. We definitely learned a thing or two from those fights.
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Plague can be a life saver for me :P So I say Plague.
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Wait…. we lack a good AoE weapon? Do some research before posting.
For condi: Staff + Scepter/Dagger = AoE through the roof. To be exact, you have 10 spells with those 2 weapon sets.
8 out of 10 of those affect more than one target, 6 of those are ground-targeted-AoE spells.
A polearm could work quite well As a new weapon for the whole game… why not? I find a hammer slightly too “blunt” for a Necro. They use sharp or witch/warlock – like things.
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No, no and no.
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Well if you are worried about conditions, there’s a way for a Mesmer to cleanse over 12 AoE conditions. Multiplied by 3 = 36 conditions, I think. A similar thing can happen with boon stripping – at least 24 boons removed with 3 mesmers. (Boon stripping, good vs. the 5-guardian group, maybe )
Edit: Never tested this
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Just to squeeze this in before reset…
I hold a grudge against emote spammers/people I don’t like very much for a long time (basically until I kill them and do the same ). Our group fought [Yarr] a few times now. Some times we were outnumbered, sometimes they were outnumbered. Big deal. We partied more than one of them and so far, all of them were cool. Maybe you got ganged by several of them and it was just a bunch of rotten apples, or maybe you got overconfident and charged an outnumbered fight. Either way, kitten happens
… it’s WvW.
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Some fights with [Ohai] helping us out.
Hehe, it was fun fighting beside you guys. You have excellent coordination
Fun times, cya around =)
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Actually, from a WvW standpoint, our tanking with spectral abilities was a little too strong before the nerf. The nerf brought it to where it should be, a nice mid-ground.
I would defend necros, but I admit that the damage on certain builds was a lil too strong, and it naturally got nerfed. No complaints there…
As for marks being in master trait line… The thing they did was not bad at all. If you want slightly larger, unblockable marks, sure, put 20 in death. No one is forcing you tho, as the natural mark radius is decent without any traits. The only catch is that they are blockable. In my eyes, this opens MORE builds because default marks are already large, meaning that you don’t even have to trait into Death magic at all. I’m assuming you had 10 in death. Now you have a spare 10 points, unless you want staff cooldowns.
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Skill 1:
Fetid Ground:
Create an area on the ground that chills and Torments enemies. Torment stacks the longer enemies stand in the field
(ice field)
Skill 2: Vile Miasma
Consume each condition and burn foes around you for 1 second for each condition consumed
Or for more mobility:
Taste of Pain : Steal health from nearby foes, cripple (or weaken) them and leap forwards.
Alternatively, the skill can be a leap forwards and THEN the lifesteal + condition effect can occurs.
Or how about : Eternal Fire – Perma-burn every red name on the map for 300 seconds (unclensable).
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Fun times in FC BL against [Yarr]. You guys have nice focus fire and some good players
Although there were a bit too many cannon balls flying around :P
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yea we just dont need people vaguely stating so-and-so is really bad. there’s a difference between competitive trash-talking and being an kittenhole.
this match i haven’t played a whole lot, and the solo/skirmish fights I had pretty much won them all…. EXCEPT not long after reset I was playing my warrior and came across a DR condi-necro somewhere near the SW tower in… I think our own BL. That kitten necro owned my face off harder than I have ever been owned. Before I died I did /cry /sit and he let me live. True I didn’t have a ranged weapon or the right skills equipped for the fight but still my build can usually make 10 players chase me across the entire map, but this little kitten necro….. holy jebsus you rocked my world.
Do you by any chance remember the race/ guild tag?
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Yeah, we are a pretty broken class in PVE. All those complaints are valid. The only reason I’m still playing one, is because I hope at some point our class gets fixed… and I’m just very stubborn.
How about you just stop playing the class you dislike?
That should fix all your problems. Leave the class to those who actually like it .
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condition damage is not viable in world vs world. any decent player/group of players will have large amounts of condition removal. in pve it is viable but is nowhere close to as high in damage as axe/mace berserker.
Think before you post. K? k.
Every single character I have is condition based, and I mainly play WvW. They are viable, you just don’t like them <3
And nice vids Oozo You don’t see them often, but condition warriors rock
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Dissatisfied people will go on the forums and write a lot of untrue things… in many cases it’s a l2p issue cuz necros are hard to learn, especially when coming from mobile classes such as an ele. I’ve played a necro since launch and at this point I find it more effective than any other class I play in WvW (other than a Warrior, but they both have different strengths and weaknesses).
I don’t often play a power Necro, but the things I find the necro to shine at is this:
-AoE
-Conditions
-Crowd Control
- Tanking (although not as good as a focus ele)
Whoever tells you opposite is wrong.
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Fun times dueling with [Girl] Thief, fun times
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Hah of course it’s viable, but like any other class, you need to practice. Personally, I use conditions because I’m not a fan of power. When using condition-based weapons, you will find yourself with lots, and lots, and lots of ground targeted skills. Now… when you fight someone and you are feeling the pressure of battle, you have to press the skill, hover over the ground and click, which can be sort of… clunky. A strong suggestion is to use fast-casting, which casts your spell immediately where your mouse is. At first I laughed when I heard people using it, but after trying it, I will never ever ever go back.
But for more necro-stuff. You must utilize Death Shroud a lot. A lot. When you get hit by a stun and expect another big hit, get into DS. When you are retreating and are filled with conditions, hit DS. It takes practice, but DS it quite powerful and in my opinion, it is excellent at mitigating damage. Of course it’s no “endure pain” or “mist form”, but still. It has very many uses and takes time to “master”. You can also use Dark Path on neutral monsters in WvW to widen the gap between you and someone who is chasing. Also, if you use staff, I highly recommend Soul Marks. A way to look at that trait is…it heals you for 3.3% of health per mark.
Different people play it differently, but the way I go about it is to try to keep your enemies controlled. Keep on the move and keep the crowd control on the enemies, be it chills, roots, cripples or fears. (which is why I prefer warhorn, as opposed to off-hand dagger). If a target is melee, like a thief, I tend to kite a lot until they drain. If the target is ranged, I tend to go aggressively at them because I have nothing against range. Unlike melee, which I can kite/slow/CC, I can’t do the same to ranged people (or at least not to the same extent. They can still shoot me while slowed, for example). Try to close the gap with dark path and keep moving, circling around the target and going behind the back where they cant shoot (you can dodge through the target to go behind them). It especially messes with channeled abilities, like rifle Volley, for example. This may not be the kind of advice you were looking for, but I hope it helps.
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Would like to give a shout out to [CooO] in EB
You guys are fun to fight.
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Wow it’s DH again…
Droopy face, it’s on.
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Reset! Wonder who we’ll face. Whoever you are, you’ll be sure to see lots of us this week
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I’d like the skill if it worked like Life Transfer, but perhaps on a max number of targets being 3 or so. It would add more AoE to the skill and dagger overall, lots more healing (as you steal life from each person hit) and would be less awkward with being able to use it while facing away from your target.
If it worked as described above, I’d likely already be a Blood Necro, as in GW1.
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Personally, I thought it was hilarious. Here’s a better picture for you. I came a little late, but I had fun wiping you guys after 2-3 tries.
Well… at least you weren’t like that other fun little engi that kept coming out. We loved him
I’’m flattered you have me targeted, love you too <3
p.s….. oh… never mind, I’ll just show it to you next time I see you
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Fun times in IOJ BL with the Necro Commander.
Many 300-moments were had that day
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I don’t take burning or fear damage and I’m just fine
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Fun times today vs. [KoM] Mesmer, [Splt] duo and [PAXA] duo.
Props ;D
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No viable stun breakers…? Which game are you playing?
And also, quick moving targets are not really a problem for a good necro when you have so many control skills that chill/cripple/fear/what not.
But I do agree that we are not THAT over the top. I faced one of those terror+burn necros in WvW the other day. She could basically apply a 7-8 sec burn, on top of massive fears (30% condi duration with Spite, 40% with food, and whatever else she had) and she ate my poor little suppot anti-condition Warrior 1 v 1, which never happened before, ever – not from a condition based person. I agreed she was OP, but when I faced her in a group setting, she got CCed and melted to the ground with no way to escape and no way to refill her DS. Then I wasn’t so sure if she was OP after all ’Tis quite interesting indeed…
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Very fun match, lots of good roamers around from a 2-man PAXA team to random good NSP players we found along the way.
P.S. [Os], you guys are dirty
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It’s NSP :o <3
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It’s actually a pretty good skill… I sometimes take it when I roam and it saved me on more than one occasion. It’s especially useful when fighting other necros or condition based people cuz they fill you with condis and you promptly transfer them back. Sometimes the transfer of condis back to a person is enough to kill them because it scales off of your own condition dmg (especially when transfering back a Pin Down from a warrior, that thing can do over 10k bleeding dmg).
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Never talked to Oozo, but some of us like to keep our old builds despite the new “OP” stuff going around
- props -It’s funny how things come full circle. When I first started playing my ele, d/d was considered a weak novelty build that was only good for messing around. Then, for various reasons, it got popular, and all the people I killed called me a fotm bunker ele (because they’re dumb). Now, after all the nerfs, d/d in general has gotten pretty rare, and glass d/d has disappeared altogether and the build is back to being considered a weak novelty.
Hah, we’ll see if the same will happen to Necros
(although I still see some good D/D eles around, and still see very, very few good necros around)
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Kittens ;D
Ozoo go conditions before they nerf fire + terror, its worth it. Power will be untouched come nerfs so your spec will still be there.
Never talked to Oozo, but some of us like to keep our old builds despite the new “OP” stuff going around
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Nope… When I can heal for 9k with a warrior heal, guardian heal… and whatever else,
and only about 5.5k + 700 per condition with Consume Conditions…
The skill is situational. If you dont have any conditions on you, the heal is weak. If you get lots of condis, it’s good.
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Well… I dominate in sPvP with minions so…
In WvW they get creamed like they are nothing cuz of massive AoE and PvE? From my experience they are just fine. In dungeons it can be tricky cuz people tend to do their little “tricks” and skip certain parts…. and minions have a mind of their own so…
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Actually, my friend, I completely agree with you….
My support warrior, who can remove more than 6 conditions has faced a condition necro (the type you talked about)) and got eaten alive. That simply doesn’t happen. My girl’s weakness is burst physical dmg, and a build that is designed specifically to remove conditions died from a necro… Never in the history of my WvW has it happened, ever. It’s over the top (coming from a person who would defend necros till the end).
Love,
A fellow Necro lover.
Edit: Yeah I coulda went with Mending and -40% condi food, but that shouldn’t be the case.
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A victory! <3 to all that made it happen
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A condi warrior in WvW is very good in 1 v 1 situations. Of course, when you run into a person with lots of cleansing, you won’t be able to do as much damage, but then again, condition cleansing is your counter. But if you encounter someone with little cleansing, you will do really well.
I run a support condition damage build, but still roam sometimes. If things don’t go too well, I can run away (in most cases). (I am focused on massive healing power, 2.5k per shout, if I have full stacks. Condition damage isn’t too high then, but might stacking brings it to where it needs to be).
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-First, the game is not balanced around 1 v 1.
-Second, if you had someone (like a shout guardian —> removing 2 conditionss per shout) to give you stability and faced that necro + another person (so its a nice 2 v 2), the necro’s damage would go wayyyyy down. Why? You can’t fear someone with stability. If you can’t fear them, fear does not do damage (Yeah but he will bring corrupt boon! No.. not always. He will likely take his Spectral Wall + Spectral Grasp, in which case he is left with one utility, and if it isn’t for survival, he/she will be a squishy sitting duck).
-Then there’s the burning, which is more tricky, but it is once every 10 secs, so if you remove it quickly, you are safe for 10 secs. Just because you met your counter does not make it OP. (unlike you thieves, with that setup we can’t just vanish into thin air, we just sit there waiting for a beating). I have always played a necro and decided to go into sPvP the other night. To my surprise, it was infested with necros to the point where I was being feared left and right. Most of those necros were actually really, really squishy….. But all we really needed, as a team, was AoE condition removal and stability, but people like their dmg too much to go for support :P
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Why can I cast a fireball out of my hands?
Useless questions. Next.
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Hello sistas, I would like you to meet Nesmee, one of our finest hunters.
Now that you’ve met some of us, tomorrow you will meet all of us. Let’s have some fun
(Hopefully we stay with you at reset ^-^ )
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Dont go Hunting Lili too much while im at work ^.-
If you do find her, be a sport and do a 1v1, we both are working on our game play and it wouldn’t be fair to 1vx her, or even me for that matter >.>
Met this little guy this morning, had a good couple of duels.
Hah, that would be Night Angell. We heard all about it ;D
Beware when you run into Night Angell at night… after all, that is when he is most poweful.
No worries <3 I’m logging on now with my cat-hound to track her down >: D
…she will be… safe
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Alas, ’tis a new day, a new hunting trip.
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No, we are not OP. We are where we should have been from the start
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-whispers- Tell me everything, Mar…..tell me all your secrets..
Can’t wait to see you again…..<3
-Whispers- Tell me everything Lilli, tell me all your secrets <3
p.s. your sista’ is next.
Love
-Marin
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