Guild Wars 2

In WvW

Sword/Warhorn + Longbow <3 <3 <3

In PvE
Rifle, Longbow, Sword, Off-hand axe, Off-hand mace

Oh my…. and I already feel bad killing someone who can barely fight back haha… I usually let them live (key word – usually).

Props to the DH guys form the guild [Nova] I think every single [Nova] person I met was very very fun to fight, probably one of the best DH people I’ve seen haha.
Had some fun 30 mins ago at the Hylek camp in EB.

And there’s that DH thief, forgot his tag, might have been Nova too. Has a Fused sword and barely any stealth but a ton of mobility, its ridiculous haha, and that female norn engineer…. kitten they are good xP

Let’s keep it up DR, and build siege kitten it!

- DR Warrior

A support warrior with healing shouts is very good in WvW :P I use longbow + sword/warhorn
-healing everyone for 2k hp with shouts
-removing up to 6 conditions from people (2 of those get converted to a boon)
- Pin down (I think that’s what it’s called) does about 9k bleeding over 18 secs or so, mix that in with your longbow F1 which does +5.5k, along with other longbow skills, then lunge in with your sword F1…. Now introduce a squishy backstab thief into the scenario xD

I feel like I’m running a support build and can still kick some serious butt :P but like others have said, if you are built as a glass cannon, things will be tricky

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Lol… if you dislike Necromancers so much, seriously, don’t play one and stop complaining. You are doing no good. Maybe you like a dark-themed classes, but just not the Necromancer’s playstyle. They are kind of a slow-moving class but if you learn how to play one, they are very, very deadly (I’m talking from a WvW perspective). They may not have a skill that lunger them forwards or backwards, but they have AoE cripple, chill, fear …. The AoE conditions are unbelievale and the survivability, at least for me, is excellent. It took me a long time to figure out a satisfying build and I finally found one that I really like. The class is a bit hard to get used to (requires a bit of brain)if you are coming from an Ele or Mesmer because they are more mobile – different playstyles, but if you play enough and the skills become muscle memory, you will be a force to be reckoned with. The only time I’ve ever lost a fight in 1 vs 1 was against a warrior who had 1000 conditions removals and I underestimated.

But it comes down to whether the PLAY style is for you or not, and it seems like it isn’t.

Support Warriors are pretty kitten :P

Lol that’s the dumbest reason for not switching that I’ve ever heard xD
I switch between my Necro and Warrior and they are both rank 5. Big deal, seriously. I think the leveling is excellent. Just because people are spoiled doesn’t mean the system should change <3
I’ve played for 2 days and am already rank 5 with 2 characters. In other words, it adds up fast – just keep doing what you’ve always been doing.

And you made this post because….?

Props to that DH male human warrior with hammer + longbow with human tier 3 helm (can’t remember guild tag, I almost never look at those). The next DH on my hit list is a male human ele with long white hair (can’t remember guild tag). Annoying beyond belief, but fun to fight
And the male norn warrior with greatsword that likes dueling (has Vigil helm), runs around SM a lot :P.

And just to add… I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t consider DR a 1 vs 1 at all O_o. Most people stick to groups (no one even talks about 1 vs 1s… ?).
One thing I’d love to see from our server is more defensive siege… We always cap things and leave it bare naked. A lot of the time the only siege we have is the siege I build, and I’m one person -_- Or that little asura (won’t say his name just in case x)), he sometimes builds too. I think we’d be a lot stronger if we more defensive siege, as soon as we cap something, have some people designated to siege it up.
But anyway….

(Edit: I’m talking only about Eternal Battlegrounds, not any other borderland)

-Human warrior with a flaming sword and bow

@pixieish eheheh I enjoyed reading your encounter

I had a really similar one with a DH female norn guardian…
I decided to stirr up a beehive and went to DH borderlands to take over some blue (it MAY have been IOJ borderlands, not 100% sure).
IOJ held a camp, and as I tried taking it, a DH norn jumped in… Naturally, I attacked her but saw her running around a nearby house. I had my defenses up and rdy so I knew I could escape if she decided to attack again, so I went for the camp… After killing all guards, a green circle (DR) came up. I saw her slowly creeping around the house so I waved…. then she waved back and revealed herself. Then it became fun….

I tried telling her to take the camp instead of me, but she wanted to let me take it. Before I could, 1-2 IOJ came… who we (with cooperation) promptly killed haha. We killed a dolyak as well. After taking the camp, we ran side-by-side (in combat mode haha), taking camps. Next one was hers of course. We both tried to communicate through /emote but it only showed up as “gesture”. I tried partying her but couldn’t.

When we saw another IOJ dolyak, we started killing it and another DR joined us commenting “Lol I like the cooperation.”. All of us then (2 DR and 1 DH) took a camp…and unfortunately… I had to go at that points. I wish I could have stayed… but ah well…. maybe I meet her again some other time

My favourites
“Eat my dust!”
“Arise my creation!”
“It’s my own fault for making them so disposable…”
“Live, my puppet, LIVE!”
“Aw I’ll have to make another one…”
“You had a good life, short, but good.”
“I am death incarnated” (or w/e he says)
——Love em alll! —-

“Adrenaline rising”
“Adrenaline full!”
“For Great Justice!”
“Shake it off!”
“On my mark!”
“I can outrun a Centaur”

there’s some lines they say when they get conditions or are low on hp too… I hear them quite often xD Love all of em

(Oh yeah…and… “Always happy to see customers” “I’m sellin’, you buyin’?” “That’s all I needed.” “How many ales have I had?” haha, don’t hear the last one that often, but it’s just funny.)

Lol, it’s your opinion that they sucked….
And no, they don’t suck. I have a warrior – she doesn’t have max gear yet but is lvl 80. I run a healing shout build with the Superior Rune of the Soldier, longbow + sword/warhorn and believe you me, it is far, far, far from sucking. Not to mention it’s super fun… survivability it very good and the support is excellent (Can AoE remove 6 conditions).
It’s a different story if that’s not your playstyle (being supporty), but even with a support overall build, I do excellent damage (condition damage). There’s nothing like throwing a combo with a bow on a stationary zerg, all while empowering everyone around you (stationary when 2 zergs just stand around throwing spells at each other). The only thing the build is vulnerable to is melee glass cannons (like thieves). Those I can’t really deal with well, but that’s ok… everything has an upside and downside.

I’d gladly go through the second half of page 3 and whole page 4 but alas, time is of the essence :P

DR and IOJ (from the time that I started playing WvW a lot) have both been up against another server that’s just…bigger. Tactics are a huge part of WvW, if you can organize it well, but so are the numbers. I know we (DR) can do well when we got the people cuz I’ve witnessed it and the map is far from being just one colour.

The only thing I never understood is how it’s possible to do so well in the evening – we get more points than IOJ but less than DH – (and this goes on for as long as I’m online), just to wake up the next morning and have almost nothing. But then I realised it’s the play-times. Apparently, Anet will have a different match-making system in this next patch so (hopefully!) this will be taken into consideration. Keep IOJ, but add another like DR and IOJ <3. Personally, I don’t mind when it’s a fun match (as it usually is in the evening, especially during the weekend), but during the early day… not so much.

On a side note… I hope I get to make an arch enemy or two from DH, as I did from Ebay and SBI (those characters were fun to face).

Hold down CTRL.

Gotta love that AoD defense and their trebs (DR)

I agree.
Funnily enough I talked about this on the bus today with my brother o.O
I said how cool it would be if the trait that makes your minions explode was like your “explode command” on bone minions or w/e. So each minion actually explodes, doing dmg on impact, poisoning and even blinding… now THAT would be good.

And yeah, jagged horrors aren’t so good, but when you have something like Superior rune of the Lich and you are traited into being a Minion Master, you will have at least 2 little guys running around at a time in combat (sometimes more than 2). The little guys will steal health for you, will take a condition from you every 10 secs, and whatever else you put…. so… not too bad (especially if they have +50% more health, then they stay alive for a little longer, combine that with staff skill #2 and healing Life Transfer… anyway xP)

Yeah… I think it needs a serious buff..

In a recent interview, they talked about how each profession has more than a few utility skills that barely get picked because they simply aren’t “good enough”. So in the next patch, I think we may see some improvements with a lot of skills

I don’t like doing a lot of math and prefer common sense… so here it goes (from WvW-point of view):
-Condition duration, in a way, is like doing a certain % more dmg. So from an overall damage point of view, condition duration is stronger (of course your build will consist of a fair bit of condition damage ALONG with condition duration, as opposed to simply condition duration).
-Every profession, especially if built defensivelly, will have condition removal
-Many professions have the ability (and they use this) to remove conditions from allies
So… you can put a bleed on an enemy that lasts 10000 seconds and gets removed in 5 seconds, or you can put a really strong bleed that lasts for a shorter amount of time, does more damage per “tick”, and won’t get removed as easily.
In WvW, condition damage, in my opinion, is better – ( I barely have any condition duration) .

I think your problem is not really with what the skills do but what they look like.
At first when I started using staff, I disliked it… I spammed all the skills in sequence, 2-3-4-5, because all marks appear the same. But after a while, as with any weapon, you start learning what each mark is meant to do, and that’s when they become interesting and not “boring”. As of right now it’s one of my favourite necro weapons, don’t have any problems with it (only that skill #3 gets triggered before the person’s in range of the chilling effect) Edit: On a second thought, they don’t need to be flashy…just look at the warrior and ranger… they are even less flashy than a Necro.

It hasn’t been moved because it is a suggestion and this is a suggestion section thing…

And yeah Ronah, I agree that the 1st GW minions looked a bit better (especially Flesh Golem…and Bone Minions)… I dunno if it’s too late into development for the kind of changes that were suggested though… Hopefully something along those lines is added later on

Ok so since ths is a suggestion section, I shall make a suggestion

Personally (and I think many minion masters would agree) it would be pretty cool to have minions that change their appearance based on the traits you give them. There are many traits that enhance minions (for example, giving them more health, more damage, or allowing them to steal health for you). I think it would be really cool if some of those traits actually changed the way certain minions look.

-For example, if a minion does more damage, it could have a slightly more dangerous look (like larger fangs, or an additional body part altogether – would be really cool for this to change the appearance of our Flesh Golem, like making one of its arms appear large and more deadly).
-If a minion has more health, maybe it can also have an additional body part that makes its appearence more “buff” or “tough” (taking a Flesh Golem as an example, maybe we could have him have a protective skeletal covering over some of his body) (or we can have the minions simply bigger).
-Death Nova trait, which makes minions explode when they die can give them a greenish, poisonous-looking miasma/aura.

Anyway, that is some of my suggestions. Things are good as they are, but these suggestions would just make things more interesting and more customizable.

Thank you for reading

Terok.7315:

Retaliation can kill you.

Oh boo hoo. Cuz you know, retaliation does 5k dmg per tick. Yes, deadly. If you read closely, he wasn’t referring to retaliation, he was referring to the massive amount of boons that an engineer has, which can’t kill you alone, which was also what I was referring to. Now…back to the topic…

And yes, I agree with the poster above me, especially the boon stripping part, which you (Terok) nicely left out.

Hell Hex.7039:

Necromancer is a rare breed. already you see few in pvp. beacuse they are so underpower..
The only necromancer i seen are the minion master . that got pets all over the field that just run around like bunnys and the condition managers. but low low damage even on them*and you need time. In a few months hardly anywone will play on them .
I love necro in gw1 but here is just a piece of joke.. im not going to be support that dont even got good cc(there are a few that can be counter very very easy..)
For exemple necro vs other class =
- necro vs thief = thief kills you in 3 sec with basilisc venom.
- necro vs guardian = guardian heals the hell out of you..
-necro vs eng = eng boons boons boons and your dead
-necro vs mesmer = who is the real one.. beacuse i got few aoe.. that can be dodge easy.
-necro vs ele = lets hope he did not see me..
-necro vs ranger = with my range i will never get the ranger..
-necro vs warrior = lets hope hes not using sword or axe.. beacuse im dead if i stay long in fight with him if hes got Flurry/Eviscerate..O wait there is no burst damage on necro…

You should talk about Necros once you actaully play as one.
As a Necro:
-Necro Vs. Thief – I can’t remember the last time I lost vs. a thief. Actaully, 2 days ago I versed a glass cannon Basilisc venom thief, destroyed her. Why? Cuz once you learn how your enemy works, you can easily beat them, and believe me, a Necro has more than one way to defend himself against a thief. (Marks, Death shroud, spectral walk, and flesh worm are just a few, to give you an idea).
-Guardians are pain, but their health pool is generally not too high. This means that they are susceptable to condition damage. A necro is good with condition damage.
- Last time i checked, boons don’t kill people, and last time I checked, a necro can rip off boons quite well.
-Mesmers are not a huge problem as a Necro, at least not for me. I’ve got 4 ways to get rid of conditions, 2 of which transfer conditions to the enemy. If the Mesmer is a Confusion mesmer, this means transfering confusion back. Having the trait for large marks with the staff does wonders against a mesmer. Believe you me.
- Necro vs Ranger… what? I dont want to comment haha… I admit rangers can be a pain, but it all depends on the situation and the build and the skill of both players.
-Necro vs. warrior – Warriors are one of the easiest for me to vs. as a Necro, especially if they are glass cannons. All you need to do is keep them off, which is not hard.

But personally, I just think you don’t know what you are talking about because every single thing you wrote is inaccurate or simply wrong.

Sry I haven’t read a lot of these but… It’s true that the necro doesn’t have some mobility options that, for example, a mesmer has, or an ele, even a warrior. But a little trick I like doing, and it almost always saves me is this – take flesh worm and spectral walk. Once you learn how to use those 2, you will have an escape mechanism. I feel like I have to use more brains with a necro to achieve a similar result (getting away from a fight) as another proffession, but ah well. At least it’s rewarding.

Spectal walk + flesh worm are actaully a really nice way to get away… either from a thief, sudden burst, or an incoming zerg. BUT what you also have to do in many situations while you are running and get chased is look back and cast some of your cripples like Grasping Dead or skill #3 from staff or skill #5, or fear while in Death shroud. To me it’s pretty rewarding I’m too used to a necro that I don’t feel as as effective with other classes… at least in WvW.

I have a Necro over others cuz they are cool. Honestly, I have no problems with utility (but that’s cuz 2 of my utility skills are utility based for PvP), have absolutely no problem with dmg (even though I’m running a tanky build). Maybe no group buffs but they have lots of DEbuffs (which are just as powerful). As a necro, I can throw pretty good heals as well, on top of the debuffs, I’d say it’s pretty darn good. And minions, my friend, don’t cause more harm than good. You should try them some time before making that statement. Most of the time I go as a minion master and I haven’t found them to be counter productive at all… (personally, they are only kinda ugly but that’s another issue haha). I find them to be pretty strong in dungeons as well. Very good as a distraction, and dmg is quite nice too

Complainers will complain… about everything. From my experience in WvW and sPvP, guardians are one of the most annoying to face. A good player playing any proffession is annoying to face…
So Guardians are quite fine Maybe not perfect, but who is (except me <3).
If you aren’t good with a Guardian, change your playstyle, build or what not, or if you don’t like them, simply change professions. Complaining is annoying Especially when it’s without grounds. And I know most complaints (I said MOST, not ALL, for those who look and analyze all little words and twist them) are without grounds cuz half of the things people complained about in the past are proved wrong at one point or another and will be proved wrong in the future (as soon a good player can pull it off). And that is a fact. Anyway…

Just play a class and enjoy it. I never considered the Necros broken, because they are not. It’s a hard class to get used to, but once you do, you’ll be kicking butt. I play a minion master btw. I do ok in structured PvP (which I find kind of annoying when it’s 8vs8 cuz I’m clearly winning vs 1-2 people, and then someone always comes from behind and picks me off haha) and I do really, really well in WvW.