r[5x] tPvP onlY.
|>>> 2000+ Tournament Matches won, still rising <<<|
PU condi mes can’t hold a point coz of the stealths, which makes him useless as a node defender. And this is conquest.
Why “turn off”? The main reason of having legendary is to show off to others. Coz its legendary, coz it needs effort to make. Its not only just a skin like all others. Thats why skin should stay, only option to disable particle effects. But for example for Sunrise, skin should stay untouched. Maybe no particle on swing if someone doesn’t want to.
“Remove ranks from the game. They mean nothing, they were abused to a point where you can’t trust anyone’s rank. Axe them. Show leaderboard rank or % instead.”
I worked for my 50 for a year on tournies, to get armor, bear finisher and now just remove? Coz idiots farmed skyhammer? Allie said: they knwo who and how much. So ban/rollback them all.
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Actually, the pvp version r ingame alrdy. So i expect them in 1-2months time.
And “flashy” argument: just give option to remove legendary effects like a swing at Twillight, just leave the weapon skin = solved. Those who don’t want em will disable it.
+ it will be prolly trade shards for weps, and prolly they will drop from chests (shards) so no need to make 5k kills or run around the map like idiot.
Got any other “cons” ?
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“If my understanding is correct, in solo arena the game will try and place you with those who are at your skill level.”
Thsi is so much wrong adn not working atm that I can’t even comment on it >.<
Both good ideas! I believe we normalized player models in Super Adventure Box if I’m not mistaken, so it’s probably something we can look at applying to PvP. As far as rewards, gold would be amazing. We’re currently on making rewards in PvP amazing (“Incredible!”), and I’m sure everyone will love it
They will roll out in steps, though. So when you see one patch, don’t think that it’s the only thing we have planned.
So, new reward system will be introudeced step by step with few patches? I hope it won;t take next few months =/
And pls, make legenedaries in the 1st “part”, cant wait longer anymore ;o
As for characters size: I think its gr8 that some ppl play big bad charr, other normal human and others tiny asura, brings variety. I don’t have problems iwht size so i’m for no for normalization.
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lol didn’t know about it in www since i dont ;x wtb 4pvp if ww can have one…
So u want to give pvers everything, skins, ranks (say hello skyhammer) in easy way coz u need more ppl? Btw, why I can’t get my pvp look into pve when I step there, but pvers should can going into pvp?
I don’t comlpain on que times, more on match making. If it stays the same I will get matched with/vs even bigger bunch of newbs, but having cooler weps than I. So no thx.
BTW, games r fun when u r matched vs appropirate ppl, atm coz of the match making failure i’m stomping lowranks, so I better want better matching than next wave of newbs in pvp.
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Allow people to use their PvE skins in the mists . I think many people dont wanna start from 0 in terms of looks . In gw1 we were allowed to bring whatever we wanted in separated PvP
lol no way. Some pve guy after year of pveing comes to the mists looking x100 better than me, altho i pvped since year also? It would work IF it was like this from the begining, not after over year and time ppl invested in pvp that gave no rewards.
question^^
what would be more banned when each team can ban 1 class before the match start?
warrior + necro or ele + thief?
spirit ranger + s/d thief. so basically ranger+thief 4me.
“Make a video: How To Achieve Legendary Through SoloQ and announce the video with the release notes” + Mission: Immpossible music theme in this video
Lol U get legend skin a) coz u like it B) coz its legendary and u want show off others that u got it so why let others make it see like normal wepaon? a legendary just for me ? lol xd BUT there should be option to turn off effects → like swings from greatsword or arrows from shortbow WHILE keepin the look of the legendary weapon. SO basically Twillight with no foot steps/swinging effect for those who dont want to see it.
And for hot joiners – there are enough nice skins to get :> Let Vision of the mists, Ilya, Azureflame etc will be obtainable through tournaments also.
I liek the idea 1legend/per 500 wins for players who played from the beginig. Would give instant reward. But I would rollback all skyhammer farmers + made rank req for legend set to r40.
I play burst shatter mes in soloQ and it does fine. Sure, it is veru vulnerable but if u know what u r doing, and what u plan to do next, got fast reactions and good awerness (if sum1 is comming from behind for example) u will do well.
I love to watch ppl melt in seconds :>
For sure they will, why not?
Ppl who transfered should get their chest anyways, no matter if they contain a parts for legend or not, its just Anet issue with transfer.
There was rlly no reason to open chests…. And if ppl play actively tournaments, I don’t see a problem of gettin them. Active play = chests = reward.
I think Smiley an achi related process of getting legendary is not how they want to make it. I think they will do it RNG from chests. But I would add to it → only tournament chests + at least 1500 tournaments won.
Kuruptz, u r smart beast. ;d
Tie to leaderboards? Best joke ever.
For ~90% of the PVP population (non leaderboard players) this new match making was good and made games more fun. Hopefully because they are enjoying it more the playerbase as a whole will expand…
However, in the meantime, for remaining veterans… games are cringe worthy. It’s like a basketball game with a mix of highschool and kindergarden players.
This. Sure games are closer, but that doesn’t mean the matchmaking is better or “funner”. For this remaining 10% of the population, every game seems like you are doing a lot (aka carrying), but yet the rest of your team seems to not pull their weight. Ultimately when you get that loss, it’s really, really, REALLY discouraging. I cannot emphasize how really discouraging it is.
Of course, I could just be really bad. But it really does seem like I have a huge weight dropped on to me that I have to tug alongside my own.THESE 2!!!
To me, winning or losing is not as important as HAVING FUN. as long as i get matched with people who have some logic and general idea of the game, i could care less about having a stacked team.
It’s very frustrating playing with teams who are always fighting off point, dying almost instantly on every fight. and have them be spawn camp unless you baby sit them. all because they have little to no idea to whats going on.
What I want:
- To be matched up with players who have a general idea of how to play the game (and to have some logic )
What I DON’T want:
- Matches to be decided by who has worst players
- To be expected to carry clueless people every game
For some it might feel like better match quality, but that’s just because they are being matched up with players who are winning the games for them, but the strain being put on those players back… is unimaginable.. and that back might very soon break.
These 2 also for me pls.
I agree, when they allow ppl who farmed hot joins much/skyhammer exploit/bday glory bug to make legend just by buying rank chest and opening them the Q_Q will be endless, ppl who played tournaments will leave as the braindead grindeers will be far more rewarded. + as U mentioned, there will be tons of legendaries. Won’t be exclusive to those who played tournies.
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Nah, they may have deleted it to don’t spread it. And codes for weps are working in game. I guess it may be true.
BUT.
Chests that contain part for legendary should be ONLY THOSE FROM TOURNAMENT WINS. BIG NO FOR RANKED CHESTS.
Nvm suggestion. Patch notes are probably not real.
Seems no competitive players want legendaries anyway^^
Could be nice for when hotjoin becomes 5v5 though. Only useable in hotjoin
And they “are probably not real” comes from…. ?
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So u sayin mm is good, better than before, but after over 1yr of pvp and tons of tournies im mached like this… There is no way to carry this lol.
Fo sho it works gr8
“at least 750k glory point” after year in pvp, 2.2k h, over 3.5k tourn i dont have even 700k glory… o_O
BTW
“Shard collectors have been added to the Heart of the Mist near the glory vendors. These vendors accept Shards of Legend for legendary PvP weapons and other rare items.”
It may mean armor sets like nightmare or other rare skins like Vision of the Mists, Cobalt, Lyss, Aether etc?
“1: omfg the greatswords animations are kittened over the top esp on norn/charr. If I see those in a middle fight I shall be straight up kitten ed/wondering how A-net could be that kittened.” this
“3: If rank 1-40 get access to legendaries I’ll be kitten ed as well.” this
“6: This better not cost ANY part of pve farming to receive one.” very much this
Being naturally skilled for something is far away from enough. If u don’t practise much, even average ppl will be better than u coz they will outshine u with their hard work. Being skilled more than other + lot of hard work and practise = real succes. Not biased “im skilled”. Playing a lot means that, ofc if u care what u do and not do it only 4fun, that u get experience with every match u play and u get better, if this is your goal. U seem to not getting it.
I’d rather w8 5-7misn for match but with apropirate enemy/team than 1min for such game. Just ended match, and it was a farm for me…I can’t call this other way, 20+ kills, enemy rank 1, 6, etc… So my personal mmr is like this? to be matched vs such enemy? C’mon…
Why they dont make legendary only for top 100 in seasons? Nooo, alll can get legendary, because, all ppl are legendary in spvp —’.
Sorry, english isnt my native language
No, just every1 got a chance, like in pve. But they should be avaible for ppl eg who won 1500 or more tournament matches. Nothing for sure that can be farmed in hot joins.
w8 w8 w8, so they (shards) drop from copper/silver/gold eg dolyak chests?
Personally I think they should only drop from match win reward chest. So if you see someone with a legendary. You know he wins a lot tpvp matches, and just doesn’t grind hotjoins.
Plus this will get more people to play tpvp.
Y, tight for tournies only. And only from wins there. +1
it’s gona be in early dec patch? like 12th?
Alrdy in game?
15/c
Oh, same acc name U got :>
U can’t carry them all if the ydon’t cooperate. EOT =/
I agree, I even saw a terribad r60’s lol. Www enviroment is different – on zerk theif u can get over +100 crit dmg etc with food etc, its not appropirate. There u 1shot sum1, here u need 5x times more effort.
I just had an under r10 in a team, i ask why he cap point with me, no response, after match: i jsut wanted to try tournament. While he feeded all game. And i ask, why the hell im matched with such guys.
Rank should not even be displayed in team matches. Rank shouldn’t even have been a thing. It has zero reflection on player skill and it leads to threads like this. What if an extremely experienced player makes an alt account? They’d be rank 1 but they’d still probably be better than most of you.
As I said, I’m not talkin about exp players with second acc’s.
Rank IS reflection of skill at some point. If it’s not farmed in hot joins/skyhammer, but on tournaments. Gettin to r50 gives u HUGE experience. And U CAN’T be skilled without experience, coz some things, some knowledge comes with time. And I get ppl who are cleary nonexperienced. That’s the case.
Throwing my 2c in.
Why not reset MMR but have a minimum based on rank. Sure this wont solve some problems and the people who head bashed their way to 50 from 10 in glory farms are still going to be matched higher than they should but at least majority will be in the right spots.
This x 1000. QFT.
Btw, played ~30 games today, won ~20 of them. Altho ppl were low ranked, not skilled much (clear mistakes like attacking after being in refuge sicne 2sec, rezing vs 2 enemy and being dpsed to death etc) we won 4xx-500 coz they actually wanted to win. When I asked to come to help close, they came, when I asked not to go far, they didn’t, when I pinged a target they tryed to follow. It’s not easy, coz I also waste precious time typing this all on team chat, but it let us win. But i’m gettin furious when i type it, trying to win and ppl just ignore it, and we get kicked 2xx-500….
Btw, mes is my main Oh Silent, it is possible… When there is a teamwork it works more than good. Coz with thief I can be alomst everywhere fast, if they call for help etc, the problem is, new ppl just don’t say anything. There is 0 communication. They seem to run somwhere not sure exactly why they do it and it’s a problem. Also, new ppl, after hotjoins like to think assasulting far with 4ppl is good idea etc… I can help them, stealth stomp etc but I can’t do all alone, so I just ask my team for support and some coordination. And when there is no coordination it just makes me sick -.-
Super – I was on tpvp leadder, I didn’t lately team arena so felt out of 1000 as ratio is close to 50% with 1k win/1k loose. And not being on leadder makes me bad? How stupid is this.
Also yes, it is wrong, matching like this. You belive I’m bad coz I’m not on leadderboards and I’m not a part of known team. = bad? I can’t be good just by improving myself? Ofc I played also ~3k team arena matches (kind of 1k before leadder) with friends/pugs. I played RA in GW1 this way, wasn’t part of golden cape guild, but ppl knew me I’m good mesmer so I was 1st target. And no1 was giving a crap like: ur not golden cape guild whoru noob etc, while i hear it now? Silly.
Silentshoes – lately I play thief. When I asked team about shadow refuge opener on mid on foefire what I heared from team: how u do it? …. I try to support team fight by refuge rezes, posion on guards, aoe wekaness combo field and pressin soft targets.
I don’t like playing bunker builds. It’s boring for me to stand on a point whole match/support mid get back close. I played close bunker for few weeks, sure it helped having close almost every time on our favor but it’s just boring. And I hold close, but my team fails on mid, or go far, what can I do about it ?
And as I said: I see ppl in my team are inexperienced. And I play for win so try to lead party to wining. When I ping on map and say on chat “dont kill svanir, thief in stealth want to steal” no1 listening. I look around much and pay attetnion much what is going on around me so in most cases I see sum1 coming from behind etc etc while my team doesn’t. I don’t see a reason to bring portal + iol on mes, coz I’m the only one who uses it in some effective way. I rezed 4 (!) ppl with IoL at down buff on temple, and although I targeted them a necro to finish they all just died trying to kill every1 else xept target. I was like: is it really happening? SO following Ur way of thinking I shall play class and build that I don’t ejoy eg bunker guardian or hambow warrior point assassulter just to be team valuable by being tanky? I’m team valuable by playing roamer/burst, and this is my play style since over year. And I want to keept it thats why I ask ppl what to do, where to hold, when disengage etc.
Yuki – I’m not saying r50’s in a team guarantee win, but at least they mostly know what to do. We loose coz we get outplayed/better builds on opposing team, not coz of lack of basic knowledge.
Mladi – I don’t ping map like mad. I do 1-2 pings + a comment on team chat. It’s not like i do 10 pings and say nothing. Let every1 what they want to do? In 90% cases they do it anyway. So I shall let 2 ppl cap point with me and say nothing? I shall let my gr8 team zerg move to far after wining mid, dying there and loosing mid after? Coz they think it’s right while clearly it’s not? They would know if they played much. I alwayse try to do my best, I encourage ppl even when it’s 4v5 from the begining or we fall behind 200 points. Coz I belive in win and want to win. Also I’m not talking about skilled ppl with 2nd accounts. U can see this after watching such person for few moments. I had such guy today, starter armor etc, but he played in a great way.
Also it’s not Dota. Sometimes, while my party fed enemy I farmed good and was able make gr8, very strong items and actually win the 1v3/4 teamfights by myself and win us a game. Not much, but it happend. But here it’s simply immpossible. I can play godlike in any way but it won;t save the game if team don’t wana cooperate/communicate.
Also : I hope they will rollback every point farmed in skyhammer for everyone.
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Y, I agree with this cool “rank is nothing”.
Somehow “rank means nothing” ppl with 40+ or 50+ know what to do, know rotations, targetting (this is nightmare, no1 follows the target at lower lvls). The point is if they didnt hot join MUCH or farmed it on skyhammer, they played in tournament enviroment hundreads of games, even thousands to be 50 or + which gave them HUGE experience. Sure I admitt there r ppl highy ranked that play simply bad and lack basic knowledge or sense when to rez, when to dps downed, when to stomp etc. And yesterday I had gr8 party of under 20. They juut played to win and listend my tips and we won easily 500-2xx. So sure I met even many times ppl who played gr8 and were not high ranked, but they are rather minority, let’s say 20%. While on above lvls the minority of ppl duno what to do, and I generall ppl r aware of what is going on, check minimap etc.
It is just not fun to play when I try to carry the game as much as I can, but i still loose coz my team don’t know what to do + don’t listen what they shall do. And I watch what they do, how they play and it’s CLEAR that they are new or played not much or got bad habbits from hot joins. And I can’t do nothing about it if they don’t want to co-operate. And in most cases they don’t.
Very nice, hope it will help ppl develope in a good way.
Keep it up
Where I said I am TOP? I’m just good enough. And can’t be considered as TOP coz not playin in well-known team. And whats bad in helping ppl? I like to help if ppl want to improve by build, rotation etc.
Rank IS some measurment of skill, experience – unless its farmed in hotjoins/skyhammer.
And yes, I rage, coz I’m gettin partyed up with ppl that don’t know what to do. Somehow they r lowrank. Alwayse. So they r newb = new to game, not noob, while I play this since over 1yr.
U think it’s fun for them (new ppl, or casuals much) when I stomp them while they can’t do nothing about it in 90% of cases or fun for me when I kill them, even in 2v1?
And why I posted this is be4 I had better team ups and more balanced matches. But since patch, I keep gettin lowranked ppl all the time. And it wasn’t like this be4.
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Dear Justin, the part with “accurate skill” is not fun at all. If u want to loose next player, sure it may be funny for You.
Since when a leadder position is accurate measurment of skill? A TOP1 is unbeatable godlike and top700 can’t beat a top5 coz they are far away fro meach other?
I’m not some kind of pve player that farmed skyhammer to r50, I played tournaments much to lvl up to 50 (took me half of year to make 40-50).
Funny thing, I try to help “fresh” guys when they ask for build or some kind of help, I belive in pvp in this game, I’m still here while many ppl alrdy left frustrated and You come to me with such response? Nice to know how much respect You have to Your players.
I jsut wanted to talk about it, maybe to improve it to make the game more fun but I see You don;t care about it?
Yesterday morning it was 8-11 EU London time. Matches were good mostly 500-4xx loose/win. It wasn’t bad to loose coz hte game it self was good, fun, balanced. Somehow with ppl ranked higher. In the evening – 6-11pm it was pathetic, 90% loose time and ranks 1-20. I’m playing atm and its still like this, when they listen, follow map pings – win, when they dont – loose. The point is, exp ppl don’t need commands, its just communication, not perma telling what to do, res, stomp, dont res, cap eetc..
This is gr8 idea – to have ingame tutorials, basic builds, rotations, tactic for each map, spectatin tournaments. But thers noone, so I try to lead the party. But 95% time they just don’t want to listen.
Thats why it’s stupid as it is. I felt from top15 to % by playing and seems not having enough luck to get better teams so now i goota be stuck here forever?
rank means nothing, so fail and untrue statment. I’ll repeat u get party conisted of ppl rank 1-10, me of 40-50. Blanced game U may win.
What im supposed to look at to play better? I know good al lclasses, rotatnions on builds, tactics etc but it won’t help me coz I can’t carry the team. I try each game tell the mwhat to do, when to kill boss or not, when go back home, when not go far and when decap it but it doesn’t help. They don’t listen and do what they want = loose.
I’m more a type of lone wolf but playing pvp here since 2012 but it’s not fun anymroe to be matched vs and with ppl that are clueless.
Im not even ranked at soloQ LB atm. And I dont give a kitten about lb. And all I want is just ballanced match, not ppl that duno what to do each game. Its some kind of sick lottery, if my opponents team is worse than mine.
It should be sorted based on rank AND tournaments played/won.
I thought it deserves a new topic.
And pls, some Dev tell me what is going on?
New match making is a fail. It much worse than it was before. I played MUCH yesterday to see how it works. In the morning I had good, balanced matches. Than I played much more more in the evening and I lost 90% of games.
I ASK, WHY I AM MATCHED WITH PPL WHO ARE RANK 1 OR 7 OR FULL TEAM OF UNDER R20 THAN DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TOURNAMENT PLAY WHILE MYSELF BEING R50+ WITH 3.5K TOURNAMENTS AND 2.2K HOURS OF PVP PLAYED?
Matchmaking based on leadder rank is FAIL. I play pvp since year, and I get bad teams or leavers, so I fall down, so I’m stuck with ppl rank10 y? VERY CLEVER.
it’s ridiculous. rlly. I played much yesterday to see if its only a bad luck, but its impossible to have bad luck for 6h playtime. lowranked ppl duno what to do + more: they dont even wana listen what they shall do. I don’t have to pay attention in 1v1 at all, I win 2v1’s, both team zerg. How I can improve at this when I meet on my way a r10 guy and just go kill him with eyes closed and hands tight? I’d love to fight a r50 gr8 opponent and loose than win 10 times vs a r10.
Srsly do something about it. If no, I’ll just quit like many others before me…
Rlly game is fun but match making makes it frustrating and rlly bad experience. After yesterday I didnt want to play at all. But I tryed it again today and guess what? 1st game, rank1 in my team ofc. Ofc lost. Its even worse than 4v5 coz such ppl r free walking 5points.
I should be matched vs ppl at least ranked 40-45, better if 50+. I’d rather have a skyhammer farmer r50 than full team of under r20.
Rlly Anet, u force me to quit. I dont wana, coz game is gr8 but why I shall play and only get angry? Even upcomming reward change won’t solve anything if match making will be the same.
If u want me to stop playing, gj u doing it gr8, keep on it, don’t fix it. Nothing will bring me back, new rewards, gr8 balance, if I’m matched in such matches. This is not and never will be fun/enjoyable.
And pls, don’t even bother to “rank means nothing”. If that so, I’ll give u 4ppl on average r10 and I’ll take average r50. Should be balanced.
Rank means MUCH. Lowranked ppl are clueless, they r blind, like ppl in the dark. Sure, there are ppl with even r40 or r50 liek this, but it’s minority, while on lower ranks its 90% of ppl. I would take a r55 skyhammer farmer above r5 new guy to my team andy day.
Screens from 2day: they r just examples. u call this balance ANET? u call this fun? THIS IS BROKEN. When things go wrong ppl just leave.
Any good response from Devs maybe?
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