Guild Wars 2

The saddest part is that this ALREADY HAPPENED IN THE PAST with the old orb mechanic.
Larger population servers will have the buff most of the time and the outmanned ones will endure it.

Things i can’t undestand are Anet putting this repawn tower easy capture system and now they do the other way round and empower the dominating server.
Algo with the same update they’re destroying any chance of GvG that was harmless to the actual WvW.

Epic job Anet, you’re about to loose a good amount of WvW players.

Apart from that the map design is wonderfull, you just screwed up with the mechanic.

The real problem about celestial gear is that is too difficult to get. 1 charged quartz per day and a small chance of getting a second one its too abusive for a set that doesn’t offer any advantage.

With the new patch ascended weapons use the same sistem for their crafting. In this case it makes sense so everyone can afford to get one at the same time rich player do.

Again, celestial should get something in return such as boon duration/condition duration

Guys…

WvW was like that in the first place and Anet nerfed it to the ground.
Mesmers AoE quickness nerf, confusion nerf, retal nerf, AoE 5 target cap nerf all theese led to the actual situation of maximun zerging.
Before nerfs people used to destroy zergs with no more than 15 players. Now organiced groups need +25 to even thinking about facing a +40 group.

The funny thing is that most of those nerfs we’re in order to prevent zerging.
Guess what? It happened the other way round.

covenn.7165:

The #1 biggest issue for ele’s as a whole is being chained to arcana to reduce attune cool down.

The #1 biggest issue for staff ele’s specifically behind that is being chained to 20 arcana for blasting staff.

Until those two things are resolved, anything else Anet throws at the class will be kind of pointless imo.

This!!

Theese are clearly 2 of the biggest problems staff ele have. In fact i can’t belive why in the first place we have to spec for a trait to our AoEs to be decent.

Then fire traitline is pure crap. The only interesting trait is in the grandmaster traitline where noone will definitely go for it.

We eles have amazing traits but so badly distributed that don’t allow us to play them.

I’m a guild raid leader and i’m actually feeling the same about this. How on earth could devs thought this what a good idea?

The thing that makes me angry the most is thakittens been another patch since they add this AoE culling or whatever and they’ve done nothing about it.
They even show off themselves by leaking new borderland plans when their actual wvw is nearly unplayable.

Nettle.9025:

Lots of people give Anet a hard time about zerging for this update, but I think it’s unfair to do so.

The invasions are actually one of the better open world events put in this game to discourage the zerg. They smartly designed it so that if a server just zergs everything, it fails. Smaller groups are the way to go. It isn’t Anet’s fault if the large majority of people don’t realize this.

Think seriously about it for a minute. How would you design an open world large scale event that isn’t just pounded on by a mindless blob of people? IMO, they didn’t do too shabby.

If you want a more enjoyable experience, try shouting over map chat for people to join a small group to handle events on their own. With as many people in each map, it isn’t hard to find 4 other like minded individuals, and you’ll really help push the invasion to completion this way. Decent way to make new in game friends as well.

You guys just don’t get it, do you?

The more people are in an event the more it scales so much more loot for everyone and with the last update (special loot on champ kill) this make zerging much more profitable.

That’s the word; profit.
Most of the people just look for ways of getting more and more profit of what they do. Theese kind of events giving people 20gold/hour make people forget about having fun and start farming.
Ofc can’t blame Anet for that…. well, they design a game for us to play it. The way it was designed and the way we actually play it are 2 different things. Soo are players guilty for playing however they want? No sir, we play within the rules we’re given its the rules what should be adjusted, not players.

Sry ty say this but you PvE players are starting to suffer what WvW players have been suffering for months now.

Anet loves zerg or Anet doesn’t know their own game… choose what you like here.

The thing about ascended gear really kitten es me off too. I’m “working hard” on getting my celestial gear on couple characters to try it and it will really be annoying if in a couple of months they will introduce ascended gear and i’ll be FORCED to start all over again.

I hope that at least the new crafting involves to having previously crafted/bought exotic piece within the recipe.

In the first place both guard killing stacking bonuses should be removed/changed. No one cared about account Wxp before theese became so popular because of the absurdly OP bonuses that they gave.

Those 2 bonuses break the powergap between vet players and new players. Only exp and skill should do that.
Without theese 2 Wxp traitlines soulbound system would have sense because no character would need the same thing than other.

What i can’t undestand is why is all this happening. Don’t you Anet run tests for theese features before putting them into live?

Me as a WvW player (and i suppose that most of the WvW would support me) I’m fed up.
Everytime we have a patch we already know that the WvW content will be…almost inexistent.
In addittion every patch we know also that the following days you will down WvW so you can fix your mistakes on the previous patch.
We know that we’re just getting ignored about some basic features like account Wxp ranks, group buff priorities, GvG system, etc…

The funny thing is that we can all live with theese things until you screw us in a way that makes WvW unplayable for organiced groups.

Next time if something goes wrong (like it happened with this new effect feature that nobody cared about btw) just roll back to the previous version inmediately or test it harder before it goes live.

some of your don’t seem to understand it:

If your have the outmanned buff is THEN and not before when carts should get a damage boost.

As it is now the blobs will need to be even bigger to take a T3 objective.

This!

Group play. That is what any kind of PvP should be focused on. This change could make a difference for those who seek to play organized WvW.

A priority on those party members on range would be awsome without being OP.

My 2 cents about this:

-Map completion and any other kind of PvE should be removed from WvW.
-GvG are a must. Gw1 had them and its not that difficult to make them happen.
-Orbs are needed. Just remove the bonuses from them and just make them give bonus score to the owner.
-New borderland maps each month. EB is just fine but borderland maps are just identical so make them change every month. Would it be that hard to design 2 new maps and make them rotate?
-Skill lag fix ofc
-About the actual borderlands: The lake needs to be removed. Nobody likes water combat so just build a small city or so (Like Praag in WAR).
-Definitely change the WXP bonuses. They’re…dunno, useless?

When you talk about PTs you should understand that we may don’t have the same PT.
I mean, Spanish people have dinner around 21-22pm so our strongest groups start their raids at 22:30 – 23.

You may call that nightcapping or whatever but i just think that we just have different PTs.
Hovewer, we still have strong numbers at night and we do have nightcapping aswell as we don’t have much numbers in the morning. I think its pretty balanced.

Now, about letting BB get to T2… i would be really disssapointed if this happens.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Most Piken guilds run 15-20 people at most, we have possibly 3 guild that can field 30 players on a good day. Piken guilds are good(not saying they’re better or the best) because alot of them formed many years ago and they’re played with each other for a long time. The below quote is why we enjoy playing against good opponents.

“The only way to get smarter(better in our cases) is by playing a smarter(better) opponent” – Fundamentals of Chess 1883

Forgive me but i don’t believe you.

What do you mean with “on a good day”? OSC f.e. easily gets +25-30 players everynight i see them out there.

qweman.5298:

loseros.5912:

We recieved reinforcements actually. Directly from T1. BuLL came back to their home server, which i personally think they shouldn’t have left… and i think the same for the rest of guilds that are still out there… we could recover the nightcapping we had and be back in T2 easily i think. We just jeed morning coverage to be a T1-T2 bouncing server IMO. Just cause our night crew is too powerfull.

Baruch? T2? You made my day @H@H@H@ lol
1. Stop all blob die from 30 PS zerg
2. Stop run away all blob from 30 ppl with [Nug]/[XT]/[RuNL]/[DZ]/[SPRT] tag. It is really annoying when badges always run away from you
3. Stop cowardly sitting at sieges when you have 60+ ppl in tower

If you learn this simple things, maybe (!) someday (!) BB will have the income 300+ daily like PS
but Baruch in T2.. pfff ahahaha lol i can’t stop laughing

Well, you talk like a blob had a chance against a +30 WvW dedicated guild member player group.

Still, you’re in T3 cause its easier to kill those who come from T4.

I LOL about PIken too. A server that should fight in T2 and decides to stay at T3 to farm and insult other servers.

GJ guys!

Centrix.4065:

I personally wouldn’t care. I just told you what happened, u said you didn’t understand so I just said what I think he meant. You don’t have to feel attacked everytime someone posts about you.

don’t we? really? Read below.

tagnut.8621:

Piken needs to stop being so slapdash if a server as truly awful as BB think they’re t2/1 quality……

Funny.

Well, at least BB is not afraid of challenges.
BTW since when T1 or T2 mean to be a high quality server? Its all about numbers and timezones.
SFR proved that high skilled server can get to T1 and win.
Piken is a T3 server atm. Sry if i don’t take seriously your insults.

Centrix.4065:

I think he means we farmed you like crazy. And you kept coming back, it was lootbag palooza

Again, the closest supply camp in our way to bay.

No surprise.

Its funny reading you about farming us. I wonder what would happen if RG posted everytime the wipe floors with Piken corpses.

Maniffik.4678:

loseros.5912:

Maniffik.4678:

I think we found “summon stone” of all BB border forces -> BB supplycamp (*vale) on AR border

I haven’t understood the joke.

Joke?
I guess u personally didn’t fight with us yesterday at Redvale supply camp (AR border)?

Well, let me see…

That’s the closests supply camp to our respawn in our way to Bay fortress wich was under constant atack by AR.

The camp was not even upgraded i think.

Wamgor.9347:

hahaha you finally got what you wanted Piken Maybe in a week or two we can re-trade Baruch Bay for Riverside? :P

I’ll let you know that Baruch Bay as changed their mentality and are a lot more points focussed over fights focussed these days, despite having the numbers and guilds to fight. There is a lot more of “fight avoidance”. instead looking for easy pve option en masse instead of playing WvW to fight. Its all about score and server, instead of battles and fun factor.

Their coverage as improved a awful lot, still a bit weak in the mornings but afternoons aint too much of a issue for them. Not sure if they will be able to sustain that though, it seems like they have had a boost in pve population in WvW or old players returning to grind WXP. Your organised guilds should be generally too strong for that in fights.

Will be interesting to see how this matchup goes BB are pretty unified for the first time in ages, crank up the pressure see if it cracks… They want to be back in the promise land of tier 2, its a bit of a shame they changed their way of fighting because they are potentially good enough to play alternative way but whatever floats their boat.

Gl Pikey’s

Ps. Turn Sacrx into a Moa

Well, i see it in a different way.

WvW is not about fighting.
Fights ofc are a fun part of the WvW but definitely are not the objective. The combat system in this game is really caotic.
Fight are won just by spaming couple abilities in the right moment. There is no much space for skill.
Hovewer those skilled players are able to shine over the rest as in every other game.

So as for BB gamestyle lets say that we’re still learning and building our player community. We may be late comparing to other servers but we’re on the right path.

I hope we BB can stand against the finest some day in every fight. For now we just play WvW as it was designed.

Kaiem.8297:

Let’s try and keep the thread worth reading this week and cut out all the blobbing accusations. Who cares any more? Every server has blobs, deal with it.

I’d like the BB who were on AG BL at reset to clear something up for me. Were you attacking garrison and legging it as soon as defence turned up as a delaying tactic or did you just not want to fight? If it was a delaying tactic fair play, if you just didn’t want to fight then seriously, wtf? Had superior numbers several times and still bugged out rather than fight!

Seriously, we we’re 8 [CS] atacking AG garrison last night; Do you really think that we will stay and be rolfstomped by 40 defenders?
One things is being brave and other thing is being noob.

We tried several times to ninja-take garrison. Ofc we didn’t expect to succed but we didn’t have the numbers to do anything else so…

We atacked, you came and we left. We would have taken it if we could.
In the end we just wanted to prove our server that even a small group can make great things helping to win the matchup.

kribre.9683:

That’s the thing Loseros, a lot of your bigger guilds do mainly hug. Nuke dosn’t hug a lot, which I love, same goes for CS. But you have guilds like VLK and VITA almost hugging around all the time with the BB randoms. And you got the regular DsD group with 20-35 people + their randoms of 15+ all the time (Which I find a bit fun as they were the first guild on BB to claim they do not blob up).

But hey, I’m not here to lecture anyone how to play, and especially not when you can see AG guilds doing this now and then. But it’s pretty easy to see who is doing it the most :/

I have to agree with you with that. We have too many pugs.
Hovewer i think that some should check again their numbers before comming here and accusing an entire server of no skill.

Spanish WvW community may be young and lack of exp many times but we learn fast (Some of us xD)

I wish i had 10 more players in [CS] so we could fight against FURY, UNITY or KISS in a different way but we don’t.

Its funny to read that we, Baruch, always outnumber you 4:1.
Hovewer i keep looking at those KISS blobs and wonder if you guys are playing the same game.

Btw i,m one of the [CS] and yeah, i lol when i read about fighting 4:1 when both KISS and FURY came several times to the south garrison gate to wipe 10 of us with all your numbers.

Gl guys, i won,t feed the troll any longer.

If BB goes down its because RS has focused on us. BTW hackers are on both sides cause i’ ve reported several speedhackers by myself.
Don’t worry, we’ll meet again and this will not be forgotten.
Congratz RS.

For the 8 grenades only work with our belt ability.
The normal #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 abilities stil only throw 3 grenades per use.