Guild Wars 2

lets get this part out of the way first ive played thief most of my 8,120 odd hours in gw2 and in pvp i rank around plat/legendary with rank 1870 in wvw. so i should have some sort of insight into deadeye, daredevil and core thief

in pvp/wvw (berserk amy and scholar using the crit line)

1. i think the current speed malice stacks when not attacking/invis is spot on you should not be rewarded for hiding. in fact nerf if needed

2. atm theirs only a short window from getting full stacks and the mark reseting. so you end up spending most of your time hiding getting hits in to build stacks hiding some more then bursting which is not fun for ever side. three possible solutions

(1) increase malice stack gain when landing hits this will force thiefs to fight more and hide less
(2) increase the duration of the mark and leave the stack speed as is
(3) if you remark the same target you already have stacks on you keep your stacks (hell make this a grandmaster trait)

3. i found myself using Three Round Burst as my main source of damage (i dont like this as it felt like p/p 3 spam) i only ever used Death’s Judgment to finish a downed player for three reasons
(1) Three Round Burst hits for around 5k without malice for 4 initiative and can be spammed
(2) Death’s Judgment has a massive tell/cast time and at best the damage without malice is around 6k for 6 initiative
(3) normally your target will be downed by spam before you can get full stacks which is when Death’s Judgment’s damage becomes useful

my personal solution to these problems
reward players who fight and not the players who hide and spam by

1. increase malice stack gain speed when you hit a target
2. look into a trait that lets you keep your stacks when marking the same target
3. increase the initiative cost of three round burst by 1

Turk.5460:

It looks like a small scale group-oriented glass-canon ranged damage dealer. And due to that, it will be deleted by D/P Daredevils. So we’ll probably see the same amount of these solo-roaming as we currently see of vanilla Thief.

i plan on using D/P rifle and with these traits increasing the damage by at least 50% and with great access to invis with rifle ur daredevil dp thief will die very easy

i am sooooo hyped to play deadeye ive played kill shot war for so long now and i cant w8 to see what carnage i can get up to with it. does anyone have any information on deadeyes traits and utility’s?

video of me playing killlshot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy-5QDj2XOo

i dont care about gold i have 1k in bank i just wanted 2 see what my true rank was this season but looks like ill have 2 work for it

i dont want 2 say but im winning fights so 11 more pips and becz im on the near last chests im getting 1g a fight and ill get 15g in 3 more fights

i will say this tho i have made 100g just from pvp becz of gaining 11 pips every game

yah but im still climbing 2 more wins 0 losses since this post so yah i shouldnt have been placed at the very very bottom becz now im ruining other players games

ok let me start of by saying i dont think im legendary rank like i was last season and the season before with these new changes i would say i should be around low to mid gold (start) but really i was placed in low bronze? i lost my 1st 5 games because i was teamed up with the worst players like staff eles and summon weapon guards. im now on 29 wins 12 losses and already on the amaranth reward chest so take away my 1st 10 games im on 19wins/7loss and only just getting into gold :/ and i see people in platinum who are on 8win/8loss

Edit
anet please god bring back win streak boosts

im now logging off 34 wins 12 losses so since the 10 game placement ive won 29 games out of 36 :/ i dont think this is very balanced

i wouldn’t feel so bad if the seasonal item was a special one or maybe even if u got 5 of the bags or somthing but like people have said above and on the reddit i played 1 pvp match and got 23 trick or treat bags lol so why the hell should i spend real money on that?

putting it simply now your only ever get 2 items from keys and one trash item (trick or treat bag) and yah i must have missed the rare rng chance 2 get a 3rd item

1st off ill say that the preview changes i like i would advise making the button a little easier to find tho

now the bad stuff each key gives you 3 items max (10 keys i only got 3 items each) and 1 of those slot is always taken up by event an item atm your get 1 basic trick or treat bag yes thats right 1 of the 5s bags that u can get from daily (or just farm them). the new account unlocks could be amazing at end game if u have everything unlocked but i just got a green chest piece i could have got for 3s

i brought 10 keys this is what i got
at best i got 1 (5s) trick or treat bag, 1 scrap and 1 bank access
at worse i got 1 (5s) trick or treat bag, 1 tome of knowledge (i already have 750 of) and black lion trading merchant

in the end i got 10 (5s) trick or treat bag, 4 tome of knowledge, 2 account unlocks, 4 scraps and the rest was filled with black lion trash items :/

but noted ill pass the message on to turn all graphics settings to lego

DoctorDing.5890:

I guess you could try beating up any guys in suits and shades. Alternatively, set your animations to medium and see if that is any better. (They are working on a fix.)

but how will i beat them if animation are set to min i wont be able to see their fist coming my ownly solution is to go in deeper and see if i can get the fabled 3 error loop where i can have an error message about my error message which says that my 1st error message is about my 3rd error message

ERRORCEPTION

was in wvw i got an error message but the game didnt actually crash so i kept playing but it kept tabbing me to the error window so i closed the error window and then my game crashed. it get better i then log in again and i get an error message but i cant close that error message becz i got an error message about my 1st error message which in turn kept tabbing me out of game even tho it didnt crash im in a error loop

also its not just me 2 of my guildys are also in the error matrix we are still w8ing on our choice of blue or red pill

update *DO NOT hunt for the 3rd error message its so legendary that once i had 3 error windows up while still playing wvw that my pc noped and ault F4 life

Edit 2 after some testing you can stop the bug from happening if you turn to potato graphics mode i mean turn it alllllll down. and after some testing it seams when ever a player wearing the executioner outfit model loads your get the error message meaning aslong as you dont look at them your safe

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

TexZero.7910:

Call me jaded, cynical whatever but the previous meta sans WvW (which will always be an impossible task to balance due to numbers) was the most healthy meta most gamemodes had seen. Sure some classes were under-performing but that is no cause for sweeping nerfs to how the game functions as a whole.

I definitely agree. The meta for PvE was in a good spot, there were tons of solid build choices which while not necessarily being optimal were still doing well enough to be picked regardless and it would’ve been easy enough to expand on. Instead, they decided to trash everything, gutting diversity in the process. Gonna be a few really unfun months, hopefully they’ll fix this mess in the next patch as I’m assuming they’d prefer to see how this plays out now and are not going to make any major changes, even though it would be necessary.

100% agree i think the pre patch balance was one of the best all round for pvp and pve every classes had a job it could do but now we are forced to over stack on some classes and leave some out

actually i have played all classes in all game modes im part of a 9 man raid selling team i used to play academy gaming tournaments in pvp and now the only game mode i play is wvw. and true viable and optimal are different but in raids if for some reason we lfg and u can only play rev we will ask you to the leave thats a fact so its not viable anymore becz it wont just be us doing that. and in pvp rev was already hurting just becz of how predictable the classes auto procs and utilities are. to get a easy rev kill 1st burst and w8 for bubble, then burst and w8 for glint heal (do no damage at all so they dont heal just run away is best) then burst and dead and with shiro heal nerf rev v thief is RIP for rev

Cerby.1069:

Be sure to black out the chatbox next time…..we can all see ur name.

like my account name is in this post so my toon name in the pic makes pretty much no difference XD but thanks for the concern and yep my names steve XD

Nukkuu.6591:

Galtrix.7369:

I can definitely see an increase in viability for mesmers – not as support, but as a dps class.

Which is kinda sad really. They’re killing the one true support class in the game, and for what?

They easily could’ve added a dps elite spec that is on par with other dps classes come next expansion and left chronomancer alone as a pure, great support spec for those of us who enjoy that more than “MAX DEEPZ”. Instead of neutering it.

agreed thats why i like playing my druid in raids over my ele sometimes becz its nice to just be the supporter and not worry about DEEEEEEPPPZZ. but ill say this the damage now for mes still isnt that great thief or ele still out performs it and the fact to get good boon duration u now have piano rotations and have to run full commanders

Galtrix.7369:

I can definitely see an increase in viability for mesmers – not as support, but as a dps class. I’ve been furious at how little damage the mesmer actually does, but they fixed a lot of it’s problems in this patch. What you’re saying makes me think that you don’t play mesmer as a main.

-They’re most definitely still viable in fractals.
-They will still be sought after in raids because they can tank and provide enough boons.
-They’re still viable in WvW. Every class is viable in this game mode where you run around in a massive zerg.

As a revenant, I do think they basically killed off a significant portion of what the class had to offer. Maybe Anet didn’t intend the class to be a boon-hoarder shrug. I’m not too happy with the changes they made to this class, but we’ll see where it goes from here.

I can’t speak for necros, as I’ve never played one.

true fractals they still work but ur still take a necro over it and raids its more iffy but i do agree people will probs force themself to run 2 of them just becz their will be no other way to get the quickness becz guards just dont pump out enough. wvw tho (in gvg) i think ur see a little less play with them as u can no longer play the cheese rev mes perma quickness set up. i think all in all i feel sorry for necro and rev but mainly rev as i see nowhere for them anymore

what anet wanted to do was balance wvw and yes mes+rev Guild groups needed looking at but they did not need such a heavy handed approach what anet did was damage these classes viability in most other game modes and in some cases deleted them

lets start off

Necro

the minion changes had nothing to do with wvw becz minions+wvw=laughable it was all about fractals which i kinda understand 4 mm necros 1 druid = facerole so what did anet do?

they made it so the minons die after 30s :/ with no health degen which means you dont need a druid healer anymore so what do u do? yep you take 5 necros now = still face role

what anet should have done was ad a minion cap of lets say 10 and kept the degen so u need to heal them and then add a mist lock that stop all heals to allys on some lvls this would mix it up and make people switch class

end result necro viability

• pvp no change
• wvw no change
• fractals more viable you need 5
• raids not viable other than matthias

Mesmer

mes was the back bone to all groups giving you the boons u needed to max your partys dps. its dps in 1v1 was quite nice but in blob fights or raids its probs one of the lowest so was solely used for the support

what anet did was for all intents and purposes decrease its boons capabilities by 50% this was way to drastic a mes can now only support 5 party members not 10 so to compensate in raids you probs go for a mirror comp with 2 mes in commanders gear but then ur lossing on dps.

end result Mesmer viability

• pvp no change
• wvw less viable but vail will always be needed
• fractals not viable
• raids ever go with 2 or none

Revenant

rev was always used for its boon increasing capabilities you would combine it with mes to give all the boons you and your team would need in wvw and raids. if you hurt one you hurt the other

what anet did was decrease Naturalistic Resonance from 50% to 33% combine that with mes nerfs =rip rev why you ask? becz you can supplement the boon duration with commanders gear on your mes so no need for rev, other classes do better direct damage , condi damage and cc. but it gets worse for rev the above only effect wvw and raids mainly but changes to Enchanted Daggers with no bass increase of the heal also damaged it in pvp where it was only just in top meta

end result Revenant viability

• pvp hurt but how badly a new season will tell
• wvw not viable other classes do the job better
• fractals not viable
• raids not viable at all and your have no room anyway as your need the spot for the second mes

Fatherbliss.4701:

First one to spell out a naughty word with cannons wins a prize.

dont tempt me

but honestly cannons in field that can rotate are just way to op maybe if they can only shoot in a cone or something. or increase cool down of skills

im not sure if 28 cannons is enough brb ill go make some more

Edit it is now 30 cannons and l8r tnight ill give sm the same treatment

cranos.5913:

Mr Vivi Ornitier.4271:

i need to ask this will you be re balancing raids to make up for the dps loss or will we just have to run 8 eles 2 druids?

There’s almost no DPS loss, just a lot less classes that actually get to join. 5/5 mirror comp is already pretty decent and will stay that way. Rev just gets deleted and druid put into a healing only role (because obvs druid rly needed their 2 fun builds nerfed for whatever reason).

yep it really will delete rev as their will be no room for it as ur need that second mes for the same quickness up time but then ur losing out on damage becz mes damage is trash so more eles needed. i already main zealots druid/ele/thief in raids so im not hit that hard by this but my friend only plays rev so he will probs have 2 switch class or risk being dropped from weekly raids

i need to ask this will you be re balancing raids to make up for the dps loss or will we just have to run 8 eles 2 druids?

as a player who only plays WVW and Raids this has 2 be the worst thing ive read i understand why in wvw their is a team comp using revs and mes to give ur squad every boon perma ok i understand but and this is a big BUT u have just deleted mes and rev from raids mes damage is equal to trying to kill someone only using angry thoughts and revs not much better their in the squad for one reason their team support which u just removed

my solution split pve/raids and wvw just like you did for pvp or risk having ur lfg filled with insta kicks for somone not running ele, necro, druid

my point is theirs players online but im not aloud to fight them becz ever im to high a rank or 2 low a rank :/. anet should set it that once the numbers drop this low it should start looking at other ranks to fill the gaps

why does everyone keep saying it was 5/6 in the morning ive been playing this game since beta and yes i know the ques will be long but i have never seen it this bad. the fact their was close to 50 other people in the same lobby as me w8ing for ques is silly. and from just where i was stood i counted 4 legendary 7 rubys and 8 diamond but nope no mixed ques you just have 2 w8 till more diamond players come online

2 games of ruffle stomp proportion becz of missing player with triple cap from the start of the game so they probs didn’t last more than 5 mins and I know for a fact I was in one question for 20 mins. I think that’s what bugged me more becz it was 1 hour for 2 wasted games and one full 15 mins game. I am diamond and I’ll gladly fight legendary if it would shorten my que times

the thing that made it worse was that the league above us had the same problem and same for below we all would have gladly had ruby diamond and legendary fight each other if it just meant we could have some games. i counted 8 diamond 7 ruby 4 legendary in the map i was in

ive been playing the game strait since beta (around the same times of day) and yes i expect que times to be longer but like i said 3 games in an hour is way way way 2 long if u think its ok to see the clock at 15 mins and talking in map chat with 8 other players who are in the same que as u is ok then good for u. no jokes we where all like ooooo que pop but then someone didnt ready up and its back to a 10 mins que

(putting this hear becz pvp forums have been shut down at the time of posting)

ive just spent the last hour trying to play games i managed 2 get 3 games average que time 10 mins (i dropped que and restarted at 10 min mark) i had 1 game where the other side had a afk from the start and 1 game where my side had an afk. every single game same 8 players even got chatting to them in the mist map chat.

please anet let use fight a league above and below so atleast i can get some games in becz right now theirs just no points if its just me myself and i queing

“If you could add one ammo type to the treb (poison shot, healy shot, etc.) what would it be?”

burn shot applying around the same amount of damage as the normal damage shot and instead of cc have it remove boons

heal shot should have a big cooldown. and have a effect like healing rain removing condis, giving regen and being a blast field as well as giving a boon that helps you revive downed allys. this should not be spammable and should not heal that much or your never get a tank of point, it should just be used to buy extra time if u have 2 players v 3 on mid

“How long (in seconds) do you think it should take the treb to turn from Home to Far?”

i would say cut around 1-2 seconds off the rotation speed nothing massive

“How long (in seconds) do you think a damage dealer (either physical or condi) should take to kill a treb?”

i play a full zerk war pure glass and i have to do 2 full damage rotations to take out a treb so yah i would say cut around 30% of its hp. condi/zerk should destroy at the same speed

and finaly i think if your going to make the treb a little more useful as a mechanic you should look at how their repaired becz atm mes is treb king. maybe have it so you dont need a repair kit anymore but the trebs can only be repaired at specific times lets say 5 mins after its destroyed. or have a node you have to fight for to get supplys to repair them

Razor.9872:

Allison The Strange.4519:

Mr Vivi Ornitier.4271:

we are all very tired of having to wait before we can leave a game and what adds salt to the wound is that we get a choice between join team or or… or a empty box of promises the non functional F to the NO button

solution is simple as soon as the game has finished just go to char select then log back in job done

anet why give us a NTY button if we cant even use it

bc they consistently don’t think things through of course…

D:

A-net works really hard to get a ton of stuff done.

true they do work really hard probs harder than most game developers these day but you have to admit sometimes they do make really silly mistakes. i understand this is to help people to make teams and to get people into the mind set of teaming up but sometime we also want to run solo

we are all very tired of having to wait before we can leave a game and what adds salt to the wound is that we get a choice between join team or or… or a empty box of promises the non functional F to the NO button

solution is simple as soon as the game has finished just go to char select then log back in job done

anet why give us a NTY button if we cant even use it

Edit ive also been informed that if you click the yes join team button then instantly click no you can also leave the game but their is a chance that this wont work

No point commenting your thread will just get merged with like mine did and all information and valuable discussion will get lost I even replies to the pm find out why they did it but nothing yet.

My thread was about what people thought of the April video what they liked and disliked and it was pushed into a thread that had nothing to do with the video so good luck just read the 9 pages of the MO post u might find what ur looking for might

Ty for the merge…… Not. my thread was discussing what players thought of your video and not what’s in this thread

Silverstone.4539:

I did not see any WvW in the trailer… does that mean WvW is getting nothing again with this patch, even after all the talk?

and yah from no wvw hints in the trailer and what MO said which was on the lines of we wont make promises just encase we cant keep them leads me to believe wvw update will not be coming with this patch

EragamerLG.2390:

Mr Vivi Ornitier.4271:

1st
looks like the archdiviner is now a rev instead of having him fight players would have been cool to have him fight pre rev worrier rytlock. even if their will be no law but rytlock did go into the mist and come out a rev and wheres fracs bassed? the mists.

The fractals aren’t based in the Mists. We travel to them through the Mists, but they are fragments of time and space, which again, we travel to through the mists. EVEN then, if they were based in the Mists, it still wouldn’t properly explain how the Archdiviner got Revenant skills.
In fact, I find it rather confusing considering, if the fractals are fragments of time and space, and when we replay them we replay events that have already happened in the past, present or future, why have they been altered in this way? Also, since the Cliffside fractal is based on past events (way before GW1 Searing, with the Titans), and the Archdiviner now has Revenant skills, wouldn’t that have present-day implications?
If not, and fractals are isolated fragments of reality, it would still need some sort of narrative explanation to such an anomaly.

very true i know this but i think it would have been a very cheap and easy way to make some sorta law about rev even if its not cannon and it would have at least stoked some coals for the hype train. because atm the law is rev just happened, everyone learned how to do it, the end

1st
looks like the archdiviner is now a rev instead of having him fight players would have been cool to have him fight pre rev worrier rytlock. even if their will be no law but rytlock did go into the mist and come out a rev and wheres fracs bassed? the mists.

2nd
i truly hope their will be a balance pass in this patch even if its small if so the video really needed to show even 1s clip of pvp so we know theirs something going into it

3rd
again im hoping for some sorta wvw update even if its nothing big even just some ac reworks or something so a 1s clip of SM would have made me a giddy customer

comment what you would/not like to have seen in the video or what your hoping beyond all hope will be in this patch

Agreed the off hand change could be to strong but I do like the signet idea maybe rework it a little maybe instead of the kittens with 15% increases to damage it just makes kittens inblockable I like this becz I always carry signet of agility on my bar and I would gladly switch it out if their where going to lots of blocks giving me a choice more evades or getting my damage down

Thanks and agreed the bass war is what needs a fix but I thought something like this that in the realms of possibility would be a step in the right direction and yah maybe if the burn was a little less maybe 1 stack per imob? Or maybe have a aoe mechanic to it like sigil of fire but does burn just around the area of impact

Assassin signet
Passive: Grants increased power.
Unblockable
Active: Deal 15% more damage on your next five attacks.
Power Increase: 180 Power Deal 15% more damage on your next five attacks.5 Assassin’s Signet (20s): Deal 15% more damage on your next five attacks

I thought just incase the unblockable off hand was a little to strong maybe having this signet give 5 unblockable hits would be better just like the war signet

^ XD…………………..

very constructive their and looking at your comments feeds i see that your always the most constructive person you can be so may i ask what is so strange by a small defense increase and allowing hammer to come back into the meta? just a heads up just encase you didnt get it i just copy pasted the skill facts from wiki and change one part of it eg.

Berserk
Gain adrenaline, an attack-speed boost, and access to primal burst skills.
Attack Speed Increase: 15%
Adrenaline: 10
Duration: 15s

is currently what we have?

ill highlite the bits that ive changes so the people like yourself wont get so easily confused

I main thief and war and switch as the meta goes (lets just say wars not doing so good atm)

current rank
PVP Diamond
WvW 2k

ive posted a similar thread in the Thief forums
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/A-small-thing-to-help-thief

war is meant to be this big heavy hitter breaking through the front lines and cracking skulls but atm its more of a quick do some damage RRRRUUUNNNNNN AAWWAAAYYY

My suggestions (changes are in bold)

(War elite spec F2)
Berserk
Gain adrenaline, an attack-speed boost, and access to primal burst skills.
Attack Speed Increase: 15%
Adrenaline: 10
Unhindered Combatant (7s): -10% Incoming Damage, -10% Incoming Condition Damage
Duration: 15s

yep i stole that from the Thief. with correct Adrenalin control you can stay in the thick of the fight to deal that massive DPS payload without going down yourself

and while we are at it

(War hammer primal burst)
Rupturing Smash
Jump to the targeted location and slam your hammer down, creating a deadly chain of earthen shock waves that immobilize foes.
Damage: 266 (1.0)?
3 Burning (3s): 1179 Damage
Immobilize (2s): Unable to move.
Daze: ½s
Shock Waves: 8
Radius: 240
Combo Finisher: Blast
Range: 600

i miss the good old hambow days and yep i just added 3 more shock wave to make it easier to aim (now 360) and a little burn for spice (the burn will only effect those that are immobilized)

I main thief and war and switch as the meta goes (lets just say wars not doing so good atm)

current rank
PVP Diamond
WvW 2k

ive posted a similar thread in the War forums
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/A-small-thing-to-help-war

thief is meant to be single target precision hitter but this is massively negated by the amount of blocks flying around Revs Crystal hibernation for example is on a 25s cooldown and can be traited so it passively procs and most of the time you just have to sit their wait for them to heal up so you can start over again

My suggestions (the changes are in bold)

(Thief off hand pistol skill 4)
Headshot
Daze your foe with a head shot.
Unblockable
Damage: 84 (0.25)?
Daze: ¼s
Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile
Range: 900

thats it nothing fancy no damage increase just 1 skill being unblockable. being able to counter some stuff if timed correctly would bring thiefs very much into the meta

and while we are at it

(Thief main hand pistol skill2)
Body Shot
Make your foe vulnerable with a body shot.
Damage: 61 (0.25)?
5 Vulnerability (3s): 5% Incoming Damage, 5% Incoming Condition Damage
Immobilize (1s): Unable to move.
Evade: ¾s
Distance: 400
Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile
Range: 900

yep just have the skill 2 on pistol work like skill 4 on war rifle

XD I needs more letter in my message so second yay face XD

this post just renewed a lot of my respect for anet this has been needed for so long it is now bookmarked on my pc and on phone for those woops i forgot the news paper moments

I agree completely that they have enough money to fix these problems but they dont the bunny ears idea I stole from a post with over 1k upvotes and was posted years ago and their was not even a single response to that from the devs. No support for wvw for 3 years leaves me to believe that they wont ever change these problems unless they get something out of it. Becz at this rate in a cupple of months time we will get an out of the blue balance pass with no thought put in still nothing for wvw and no real pve changes and the gem store full with more stuff that people dont want