Those were some fun fights, when you guys would actually fight. Youve got the stacking tactics down but your supposed to actually push and not coward up when you have triple the numbers of the other side, i understand if your not there yet.
@fluffy You always make me laugh (like when i laughed on your body for 5 minutes
) but by your math if you guys had only 30-35 people we only had 3 and 2 of them were afk pets.
from what I saw you guys had around 30-40 so the numbers were pretty even, also DDLG showed the same tactics over and over again. Stacking → *trying to bait us into choke → bombing. You guys are experts at it but when it’s the only thing you do it becomes predictable hence the reason we ended up flanking/wiping you guys most of the time.
Also if I remember right I let you /laugh at me for 5 minutes because I was trying to have a decent conversation with your buddies haha. If you ever manage to kill me one on one I may be impressed but I’ve never seen you run outside of the zerg
Thanks CORE group running the Zerg in IoJ bl. Really made me think with the tactics. DDLG enjoys fights like that so keep it up, great pug organization on your end.
yeah no kidding those were some fun fights lol! also to the guy who said we had 60 people. We had at most 30-35 and even that’s stretching it.
so GoM is clearly the biggest threat in this matchup and DR is just going to let them have the win? What happened to all those people from DR saying “we don’t play for 2nd”
O Hai [qT] is a 30 man NA guild that specializes in open field. We raid around 3-4 hours nightly while fielding about 15-20 average. We’d love to join a server with a fiendly community that has dedicated WVW guilds just like us.
Just so we don’t waste your time.
-We’re not looking for any tier 1 servers.
-Needs at least some Oceanic coverage so some my guildies have something to do when the rest of us are sleeping.
-Looking for big guilds dedicated to WVW that we can coordinate with.Will be checking this thread daily. If you’d like to speak to me directly in-game,
feel free to message yourasmellyface.5810 (no troll)
IoJ would be the perfect fit for you Our oceanic coverage is pretty much unrivaled among the lower ranking servers. Currently we have 3 big daytime WvW guilds. HARD, CORE, and POW all of which are really fun and easy to coordinate with. We also have a community teamspeak we all use to coordinate with one another.
I’ll shoot you an in game mail with more info about us and if your interested I can set you up with a meeting with some of our community leaders.
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So seriously curious at the moment. We started off by roaming a bit on AR BL. An hour later we had every keep. An hour later we lost everything but Hills. Then some IoJ homies that were Lord Moding like us got bored and stopped by to see what was going on. We went from prepping to defend Hills to owning the whole entire map. With Zero resistance. With less than ten people. And this wasn’t even the usual Oceanic players, it was “oh lord we’re still getting away with this, but I’d love to go to sleep if they ever fight back” players. This isn’t a rant/chest thump/brag post as much as it is a simple question. We’ve heard the rumors, but holy cow…is it really that bad?
I’d quote some of the crap you guys had to say about IoJ last time we tangled but at this point I’d seem like a bully.
What happened to AR?
Crimmy, AR lost there biggest WvW guild. It’s a shame because if they hadn’t this matchup would have been rather interesting
Ioj you need to figure out that your server is fighting American servers. Because it seems like 80% of you guys are sleeping when NSP or HOD is active in wvw, of course all your stuff is gonna be taken. Thats why they made EU servers to fix this issues, don’t know why you guys didnt go there…Prob wouldnt be dominated by every server you face. And yes you are active when nsp and hod are usually asleep.
Also seen some people say nsp doesn’t have people, Because NSP is full of people who are at work or college, I’m sorry hod is full of kids off for the summer that can play all day to protect SM.
NSP has some of the best coverage I’ve seen, they have a huge NA population, decent night crew, and alot of early birds as well. Pretty well-rounded server coverage wise if you ask me. Also despite what many people say IoJ’s night crew isn’t really all that big, 1/3 the size of our NA crew would be a good way to describe it. From what I’ve seen Iokittenissing that one EU guild to fill in the coverage gap and then we’d be golden, till then we will continue to have our stuff flipped until we get off work/wake up.
Anyways it’s been a fun matchup, the week is pretty much over and I don’t think there has been more then one (if any) official fight club set up. Let’s set one up in 2 hours, behind the windmill
I’m awake
Score is actually even atm and it looks like HoD has pushed IoJ well into last.Maybe you guys wanna like,
Try and stop them lolWe new from the start NSP was a threat to us, HoD was just kinda meh since we figured we’d beat them. We didn’t expect them to be scavengers though which allowed them to pass us up this much today so ya we’ll probably hit them some. Also sorry spet those screenshots do infact line up, as much as you want to blame you losing the tower due to hacks it just wasn’t
HOW do they line up? Do you have some sort of a visual problem?
Sadly yes and that is why I wear glasses. But I assure you they do hit from where I labeled the x’s you can test it you yourself! But I doubt you will since you thrive on calling people hackers without examining any evidence shown before you.
I have examined your evidence and concluded that your picture, shows a plausible* way to hit the edge top of the wall. It does not however reach the yellow X in my screenshot provided which is the centre of the aoe-circle.
I’ve examined your evidence and concluded that your picture does not properly label the center of the circle. I’m getting tired of restating my case so stop being a noob and play the game
I’m awake
Score is actually even atm and it looks like HoD has pushed IoJ well into last.Maybe you guys wanna like,
Try and stop them lolWe new from the start NSP was a threat to us, HoD was just kinda meh since we figured we’d beat them. We didn’t expect them to be scavengers though which allowed them to pass us up this much today so ya we’ll probably hit them some. Also sorry spet those screenshots do infact line up, as much as you want to blame you losing the tower due to hacks it just wasn’t
HOW do they line up? Do you have some sort of a visual problem?
Sadly yes and that is why I wear glasses. But I assure you they do hit from where I labeled the x’s you can test it you yourself! But I doubt you will since you thrive on calling people hackers without examining any evidence shown before you.
I’m awake
Score is actually even atm and it looks like HoD has pushed IoJ well into last.Maybe you guys wanna like,
Try and stop them lol
We new from the start NSP was a threat to us, HoD was just kinda meh since we figured we’d beat them. We didn’t expect them to be scavengers though which allowed them to pass us up this much today so ya we’ll probably hit them some. Also sorry spet those screenshots do infact line up, as much as you want to blame you losing the tower due to hacks it just wasn’t
Wow were whining? Wow! Do you read the forums? Obviously NO!
We don’t whine. You take our BL it’s good that what it should be. This is WvW, you take what you can, when you can. We don’t whine. We know how WvW works unlike you guys.
If you only know how to back read you can see is NSP guy saying ~ “We are sleeping, etc. etc. that’s why you took our tower, hu hu hu!” ~ Well maybe by your standard it’s not whining. ROTFL!!!!
Common NSP replies:
- Huhuhuhu… you only take our BL because we’re sleeping, huhuhuhu….
- Huhuhuhu… you are so many, you have like 999,999,999 people against one of me and my rock dog huhuhuhuh……
- Huhuhuhu… you are zoomhacking that’s why we cannot take our tower back with 999,999,999 people.. huhuhuhuhu!
Back read please, and tell me who’s whining. Don’t just come here and post nonsense you are not helping your server that way.
I haven’t whined, but! The zoomhack being used it evident. Say whatever you want, you may not use it personally, but I’ve seen it been used repeatedly. I have played with the zoomout (when the adventure box glitched it out), and that is the only time I have ever been able to hit angles that are being hit at this point
And those aren’t whines as much as accurate statements. You did have people defending your BL. Maybe we were more attacking, but you can’t burn 1,000 supply that fast without having at least a certain amount of people.
But you know your strength is at a certain time. We know that too. However, when we fight against any of your numbers when we have our own (afternoon EU), you know what we are capable of. And that extends to our NA.
If we had 10-20 people online at your prime, you could probably take one keep in our BL, and it would stop there. However, we have proven that you can not say the same. (The first keep we take is usually free, but not the 2nd or 3rd).
you know we literally JUST flipped your entire borderland right? Reguardless of the 30 people you had defending we still took it Also no sorry but whenever you bring 50 people and 10+ golems to our borderlands your not “skillfully” taking our keeps… It’s called ninja’ing, all zergy servers like yours do it and it hardly requires anything other then knowing how to chain portals. Either way NSP has way better coverage then IoJ and from the score it’s become quite evident that NSP will probably win due to there around the clock coverage and massive population.
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grats NSP, you golem rushed us at our weak point again! And guess what?? We all disconnected right before you arrived
You should be proud you guys are big enough to lag us all out. Even though we placed alot of siege it doesn’t matter if we have no one to man it :/ it was 40v5 but it was still fun thinking for a minute we stood a chance against a zerg that big with the numbers we had. Half of the golems were omegas I might add, really who pays for all this?
It’s a shame this picture only shows half the amount you guys had as the rest of you were still making your way up.
EDIT: and of course HoD is there to take our keep from us in EB while we’re outmanned there as well. You guys have some nice coordination going on with NSP. Well whatever, we’ll take it all back and then some when we wake up and it finally becomes even numbers for a short while till IoJ goes back to bed.
No coordination with HoD. infact the slimy kittens ( <3 you really VLK) tried to help you out and take our t2 bay we had in your bl. HoD is also the only* reason you guys did not drop to +0 ppt like i wanted, as they had a massive zerg in our eb side, inner keep i do believe. So we had to devide our forces, leaving me and 3 ( not 40) in your bl.
Those numbers, are all we had. See them ZoS/Os tags at the back? those are the golems and they are the last of us. I know because i was in one.
We only had 3 omegas :/ not exactly alot. and 6 alphas thats 9 not 15.
Also, im still waiting for your
AC Zoomhack, i mean totally legit way of getting the ac ontop of mendons wall from page 2.Now stop making yourself and your server look bad and go play the game.
It’s interesting how HoD is always there to scavenge off what we take. Also I’ve already proven how to shoot the AC where I did and it’s funny how you keep bringing it up. Anyways enjoy taking back your freshly flipped borderlands
You attack us while we sleep what do you expect?
We don’t attack you with 40 people and 15 golems when you sleep though When we attack you at night we generally have 20 people max against your 10.
grats NSP, you golem rushed us at our weak point again! And guess what?? We all disconnected right before you arrived You should be proud you guys are big enough to lag us all out. Even though we placed alot of siege it doesn’t matter if we have no one to man it :/ it was 40v5 but it was still fun thinking for a minute we stood a chance against a zerg that big with the numbers we had. Half of the golems were omegas I might add, really who pays for all this?
It’s a shame this picture only shows half the amount you guys had as the rest of you were still making your way up.
EDIT: and of course HoD is there to take our keep from us in EB while we’re outmanned there as well. You guys have some nice coordination going on with NSP. Well whatever, we’ll take it all back and then some when we wake up and it finally becomes even numbers for a short while till IoJ goes back to bed.
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all i have to say is nsp guys if this keep up are gone of first place
u guys clear have no ppl at all only at few hours of the day u had a strong weekend but now ur keep in eb just gets farmed over and over
yeah I mean look at how small there population is compared to the weekend!
it’s a shame with the new patch out the lagging in IoJ borderlands hasn’t been fixed :/
… I hope we can drag NSP down a bit so this will be an exciting match.
like this?
http://youtu.be/h8qm31aVgogNaw lil guy just made himself look silly
Hes shooting the ac through the gap above the gate
I expected this reply, this is the view from the ac position, you can maybe* hit the side of the wall but you cant see the floor at all at all through that hole
This is the MAX zoom out the game will allow from the position of the arrowcart in the video, anymore deviation up or down will either show you more of the upper part of the wall or obscure the gap above the door completely.
your move.
His resolution may be different, different sized monitor, different position.
In the video it doesnt really show the circles focusing the ground rather than the wal
And in your screen shot you haven’t angled your camera the best you can to see through that gate.Screen shot showing you my best angle (im almost certain mine shows more)
As a sidenote I am Still waiting for Mr.Fluffy’s explanation how the [Cast] Commander ( who may or may not be himself as my previous post got deleted for “personal attack on a player”) Shot the ac on top of Mendons Gap tower in EB, Screenshot provided on page 2, have a looksie.
EDIT: for the lazy like myself https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/84672/_zoom_exploit_v2.jpg
This however is clear, and cast should work out who it is. asap
kinky we’ve already worked it out, I even provided screenshots for everyone to see how to aim at the wall without doing any kind of zoom exploit. Again I’ll re-upload for everyone to see…
Ive tried that a couple times before and its always within the minimum AC range is all :\
EDIT: The screenshots youve shown dont really prove much of anything, the aoe rings are further away then where youve marked in Spets screenshot.
if you look at spets screen shots the AOE ring starts at the side near the top of the wall, with increased radius it makes it easy to reach where the AOE rings were
In your SS where youve marked, that isnt even on the edge of the AOE rings in Spets screenshot.
I marked the wrong spot, either way as shown the top of the jut is still visible from that angle which is where you are supposed to aim. Either that or the side of the jut I can’t remember.
… I hope we can drag NSP down a bit so this will be an exciting match.
like this?
http://youtu.be/h8qm31aVgogNaw lil guy just made himself look silly
Hes shooting the ac through the gap above the gate
I expected this reply, this is the view from the ac position, you can maybe* hit the side of the wall but you cant see the floor at all at all through that hole
This is the MAX zoom out the game will allow from the position of the arrowcart in the video, anymore deviation up or down will either show you more of the upper part of the wall or obscure the gap above the door completely.
your move.
His resolution may be different, different sized monitor, different position.
In the video it doesnt really show the circles focusing the ground rather than the wal
And in your screen shot you haven’t angled your camera the best you can to see through that gate.Screen shot showing you my best angle (im almost certain mine shows more)
As a sidenote I am Still waiting for Mr.Fluffy’s explanation how the [Cast] Commander ( who may or may not be himself as my previous post got deleted for “personal attack on a player”) Shot the ac on top of Mendons Gap tower in EB, Screenshot provided on page 2, have a looksie.
EDIT: for the lazy like myself https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/84672/_zoom_exploit_v2.jpg
This however is clear, and cast should work out who it is. asap
kinky we’ve already worked it out, I even provided screenshots for everyone to see how to aim at the wall without doing any kind of zoom exploit. Again I’ll re-upload for everyone to see…
Ive tried that a couple times before and its always within the minimum AC range is all :\
EDIT: The screenshots youve shown dont really prove much of anything, the aoe rings are further away then where youve marked in Spets screenshot.
if you look at spets screen shots the AOE ring starts at the side near the top of the wall, with increased radius it makes it easy to reach where the AOE rings were
… I hope we can drag NSP down a bit so this will be an exciting match.
like this?
http://youtu.be/h8qm31aVgogNaw lil guy just made himself look silly
Hes shooting the ac through the gap above the gate
I expected this reply, this is the view from the ac position, you can maybe* hit the side of the wall but you cant see the floor at all at all through that hole
This is the MAX zoom out the game will allow from the position of the arrowcart in the video, anymore deviation up or down will either show you more of the upper part of the wall or obscure the gap above the door completely.
your move.
His resolution may be different, different sized monitor, different position.
In the video it doesnt really show the circles focusing the ground rather than the wal
And in your screen shot you haven’t angled your camera the best you can to see through that gate.Screen shot showing you my best angle (im almost certain mine shows more)
As a sidenote I am Still waiting for Mr.Fluffy’s explanation how the [Cast] Commander ( who may or may not be himself as my previous post got deleted for “personal attack on a player”) Shot the ac on top of Mendons Gap tower in EB, Screenshot provided on page 2, have a looksie.
EDIT: for the lazy like myself https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/84672/_zoom_exploit_v2.jpg
This however is clear, and cast should work out who it is. asap
kinky we’ve already worked it out, I even provided screenshots for everyone to see how to aim at the wall without doing any kind of zoom exploit. Again I’ll re-upload for everyone to see…
My post got removed due to “attacking a person” ie reported i suspect.
But MrFluffy, i am still waiting for that screenshot of how that AC was in LOS, please teach me.mmk here they are, I placed white ’X’s on the spots you shoot at.
As good as that placement is, and i have used it before, it does not reach the target red ring which is seen in this screenshot ( Note I edited the yellow X for where the Target-point would be, the centre of the red ring of AC fire, I also brushed over the name and guild name, but i can assure you its the same screenshot posted earlier which was deleted by mods.)
Please show me how you can hit on that spot with AC fire, note that it is also behind the vertical jut-out that the walls have for protection.
the X you put there isn’t the center of the red ring, with increased radius the top of the jut is. If you look you will see the red ring on the side too.
It’s ok… I cant even enter IoJ BL without d/c or lagging into a middle of a zerg.
no it’s not ok, anet screwed over IoJ with this annoying issue since we can’t even properly defend during the most crucial moments.
as much as i feel for the dc, IOJ had plenty* of defenders at hills and dawns and wasn’t much pvd except for initial bay take.
The DC issue affects us as much as you, imagine golems dropping left right and centre, mesmer portal chains disrupted and commanders (me) disappearing without a warning or autowalking off a cliff cos i lagged outcant remember if you are theif or not, but i banished a [Cast] Commander off the cliff at dawns, highlight of my day
Reminds me of house batiatus!
I don’t remember getting feared off a cliff but I do remember lagging off a cliff today in the middle of calling out orders. Pretty much was a pvd, had NSP been fighting a sieged up garrison/hills with IoJ actually in it then no we wouldn’t have lost it. I’d be surprised if NSP manages to take any keeps from us without ninja’ing it this week
Please do continue to tell me how it was PVD, do tell us that there were not defenders in hills with arrowcarts raining fire on our golems, must have been the doors that took out 8 golems… those kitten ed doors!!!!! We also had to build extra ballistas across your inner because the door kept hitting us
EDIT: it was banish in dawns and you definitely did not lag off that cliff. Stop with excuses and just have a fun matchup.
Within the frame of time I was lagging I may have been feared off the cliff, happy? Also again I wasn’t online when all of this happened, I only logged into WvW after it happened. But serioulsy, the morning commanders for NSP are terrible and I highly doubt they could pull off taking our whole BL without doing it before we take notice.
Either way IoJ was outmanned when I logged in and I’m pretty sure they still are, again I have yet to see NSP take a single keep from us without the use of several golems.
It’s ok… I cant even enter IoJ BL without d/c or lagging into a middle of a zerg.
no it’s not ok, anet screwed over IoJ with this annoying issue since we can’t even properly defend during the most crucial moments.
as much as i feel for the dc, IOJ had plenty* of defenders at hills and dawns and wasn’t much pvd except for initial bay take.
The DC issue affects us as much as you, imagine golems dropping left right and centre, mesmer portal chains disrupted and commanders (me) disappearing without a warning or autowalking off a cliff cos i lagged outcant remember if you are theif or not, but i banished a [Cast] Commander off the cliff at dawns, highlight of my day
Reminds me of house batiatus!
I don’t remember getting feared off a cliff but I do remember lagging off a cliff today in the middle of calling out orders. Pretty much was a pvd, had NSP been fighting a sieged up garrison/hills with IoJ actually in it then no we wouldn’t have lost it. I’d be surprised if NSP manages to take any keeps from us without ninja’ing it this week
It’s ok… I cant even enter IoJ BL without d/c or lagging into a middle of a zerg.
no it’s not ok, anet screwed over IoJ with this annoying issue since we can’t even properly defend during the most crucial moments.
so apparently anet hates IoJ, dc’ing all our scouts right before we lose our entire borderlands to the golem rush pulled by NSP…
My post got removed due to “attacking a person” ie reported i suspect.
But MrFluffy, i am still waiting for that screenshot of how that AC was in LOS, please teach me.
mmk here they are, I placed white ’X’s on the spots you shoot at.
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Helo IoJ!! This morning my friends and I 5 man capped your bay with 3 golems. We saw that no one was home, so we decorated your bridge with flame rams as a thank you gift
Here is a portrait of us waiting for you.
several minutes later, we got ganked by your zerg…I guess you didn’t like our decorative flame rams after all
yeah I saw that lol! I had just logged on and saw we were missing a keep in our BL so I asked the people in EB to come over and help and we got it back shortly after :p
watching you guys run bay into our bay to defend it made me laugh though when I saw this haha
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I don’t know whats going on but literally everyone on IoJ borderlands is getting timed out. Like every 5 mins 10-15 players get dc’ed. It’s only on IoJ borderlands too, literally our whole server is dc’ing in our own borderlands…just our BL… this is BS and anet needs to fix this.
I was the commander in charge of your bl takeover today, and yeah the DC thing affected us also
I was in vale camp thinking we were taking out cannons but in reality my team already capped bay… gg timeouts
we had golems dropping left right and centre, mesmers disappearing its was pretty tough
good to know its not just us but still this is an issue Anet needs to address soon because this is just plain ridiculous.
I don’t know whats going on but literally everyone on IoJ borderlands is getting timed out. Like every 5 mins 10-15 players get dc’ed. It’s only on IoJ borderlands too, literally our whole server is dc’ing in our own borderlands…just our BL… this is BS and anet needs to fix this.
We had folks getting DC’d(code7) last night too. I had it happen 7 times in WvW. Logged back in dead in LA.
I’ve been dealing with it personally for about a month now, not many other players have had the same experience. Tonight however literally everyone was disconnecting and was causing quite some trouble when we’d be in the middle of a zerg battle and doh our commander as well as half our zerg dc’ed…
I don’t know whats going on but literally everyone on IoJ borderlands is getting timed out. Like every 5 mins 10-15 players get dc’ed. It’s only on IoJ borderlands too, literally our whole server is dc’ing in our own borderlands…just our BL… this is BS and anet needs to fix this.
just refreshed mos to check how IoJ is doing… saw the score then I remembered, we have 0 scouts on our server -_- GJ at ninja’ing our whole BL NSP. I got lots of work to look forward to for the next 5 hours I’m sure…
lots of fighters in this matchup, fightclub anyone?
oh hai NSP good to see you again I look forward to getting quoted alot. Also wow IoJ had a decent reset! It’s amazing how we do ok when we’re not getting double teamed, also NSP the roamers are there you just gotta step outside your zerg to see em
Congrats on zerging down garrisson with 30 against our 5 IoJ.
Maybe this is why IoJ has trouble holding their BL. 20 people chasing 2 people from NN to NE sentry, only to have half of them die falling off the cliff.
we have trouble holding our BL because no one wants to hold our BL. We came into this week knowing we’d win anyways so most of us have been taking it easy and enjoying ourselves in EB.
to the DR zerg that just glitched their way inside sunnyhill and took it…just wow
Cmon IOJ, only jump on a body if you are actually good or did something great, 50+ golems to take back your own keep at 5 am with 30+ against 10=15 if probably a sign you should uninstall. We held you keep for 17 hours but unfortunately we have no morning crew. I try to invite you to party but you to scared to talk to us. Had fun hiding at Bay for 8m while 20 chased me in lords room, too bad i couldnt do it as long in hills. Sadly you only took hills not because numbers but because you use LOS on those AC’s because you couldnt kill us in there, thanks for the 200 badges today. Take some camps, you guys only worth 3 WvW xp
also the numbers were even, we had 20 and you had 20-25. We wiped a good 10 of you at outer gate and didn’t let those 10 re enter so you might have mistaken your forces for less then they actually were
Also did you really think we could win even numbers against a choke with 3 superior ac’s and 3 superior ballistas? We took out the siege so we could fight on even terms.
Here’s the result
Yea, there was no way we had even numbers. Most of the people was in my guild and on TeamSpeak. Counted countless times and never had over 20. We lost cause we were out numbered, with the out manned buff. We wiped you guys so many times cause we had good already placed siege and communication. But for a fact you guys had way more then us. I mean really, gonna golem rush the keep twice with about 5-8 golems each with just that small of a group?
I didn’t count 20 on our side either, no you didn’t lose because you were outnumbered. You had plenty of opportunities to push us out which you missed and you had more then enough siege on all of the gates to defend against our golem rushes. And no you didn’t wipe our golems at outer we ditched them while we defanged the walls and stuff. I then asked the group in teamspeak to build more golems to help break down the outer gate (again you had atleast 3 superior arrow carts in non-AOE spots aimed at the gate we broke) so no rams wouldn’t have worked in that situation. And when we finally broke into inner we were getting pushed back because you had guess what? MORE superior siege! all of it just aimed at are already dwindling forces, so I got a mesmer to portal us to the left of the bridge but only 6-7 of us took the portal so I decided to order a pincer attack, it worked quite well and allowed us to bring the rest of our group to the left of the bridge. While we were rallying our forces we ported up anyone who died and then got ready for our assault on the lord’s room. We set up AC’s to get rid of the siege inside and then had a mesmer port us inside, again only 5 of us took the port and so we attacked you from behind and in front and we still managed to wipe you at the choke with equal numbers.
I remember it vividly and no DR no matter how much you want to say it was just numbers, it simply wasn’t
Okay… I was there and at no point did DR have any more than 14 people on your guys last golem push. We were severely outnumbered, you guys had at least 30. Anyone who was there knows.
Yes you did a great job of destroying the siege and getting in. But when it came down to sheer numbers in the lords room you guys had at least 10 or 15 more than us.
like I said we knew the DR group inside hills had even numbers so we lured em out with the golems we ditched and wiped the 5-10 that came out and didn’t let them back in. So ya on our last golem push you did have less people then us but that’s because we killed a portion of your group beforehand, gave us a little bit of an advantage but we needed one to be able to fight past that nasty choke. Was good defense on your part and maybe had you gotten a mesmer to port people back in it may have ended a little differently.
Cmon IOJ, only jump on a body if you are actually good or did something great, 50+ golems to take back your own keep at 5 am with 30+ against 10=15 if probably a sign you should uninstall. We held you keep for 17 hours but unfortunately we have no morning crew. I try to invite you to party but you to scared to talk to us. Had fun hiding at Bay for 8m while 20 chased me in lords room, too bad i couldnt do it as long in hills. Sadly you only took hills not because numbers but because you use LOS on those AC’s because you couldnt kill us in there, thanks for the 200 badges today. Take some camps, you guys only worth 3 WvW xp
also the numbers were even, we had 20 and you had 20-25. We wiped a good 10 of you at outer gate and didn’t let those 10 re enter so you might have mistaken your forces for less then they actually were
Also did you really think we could win even numbers against a choke with 3 superior ac’s and 3 superior ballistas? We took out the siege so we could fight on even terms.
Here’s the result
Yea, there was no way we had even numbers. Most of the people was in my guild and on TeamSpeak. Counted countless times and never had over 20. We lost cause we were out numbered, with the out manned buff. We wiped you guys so many times cause we had good already placed siege and communication. But for a fact you guys had way more then us. I mean really, gonna golem rush the keep twice with about 5-8 golems each with just that small of a group?
I didn’t count 20 on our side either, no you didn’t lose because you were outnumbered. You had plenty of opportunities to push us out which you missed and you had more then enough siege on all of the gates to defend against our golem rushes. And no you didn’t wipe our golems at outer we ditched them while we defanged the walls and stuff. I then asked the group in teamspeak to build more golems to help break down the outer gate (again you had atleast 3 superior arrow carts in non-AOE spots aimed at the gate we broke) so no rams wouldn’t have worked in that situation. And when we finally broke into inner we were getting pushed back because you had guess what? MORE superior siege! all of it just aimed at are already dwindling forces, so I got a mesmer to portal us to the left of the bridge but only 6-7 of us took the portal so I decided to order a pincer attack, it worked quite well and allowed us to bring the rest of our group to the left of the bridge. While we were rallying our forces we ported up anyone who died and then got ready for our assault on the lord’s room. We set up AC’s to get rid of the siege inside and then had a mesmer port us inside, again only 5 of us took the port and so we attacked you from behind and in front and we still managed to wipe you at the choke with equal numbers.
I remember it vividly and no DR no matter how much you want to say it was just numbers, it simply wasn’t
Thief’s aren’t OP in any sense… The most popular build people QQ about is d/p perma stealth. This should be the easiest to beat but some people just can’t seem to understand, if you see the black powder then stand behind it revealing them when they go for the 2nd heartseeker. When they are revealed use channeled skills which still deal damage visible or not. Last but not least just use stuns. Every class has access to stuns and they are very effective for taking out any class really. Also for thiefs and cond removal, its not that good and many thiefs don’t even use shadow arts as it is a terrible trait line for most builds, and even if they do use it just stack lots of conditions since they can only remove one every 3 seconds which just so happens to be the duration of most stealth skills
Cmon IOJ, only jump on a body if you are actually good or did something great, 50+ golems to take back your own keep at 5 am with 30+ against 10=15 if probably a sign you should uninstall. We held you keep for 17 hours but unfortunately we have no morning crew. I try to invite you to party but you to scared to talk to us. Had fun hiding at Bay for 8m while 20 chased me in lords room, too bad i couldnt do it as long in hills. Sadly you only took hills not because numbers but because you use LOS on those AC’s because you couldnt kill us in there, thanks for the 200 badges today. Take some camps, you guys only worth 3 WvW xp
also the numbers were even, we had 20 and you had 20-25. We wiped a good 10 of you at outer gate and didn’t let those 10 re enter so you might have mistaken your forces for less then they actually were Also did you really think we could win even numbers against a choke with 3 superior ac’s and 3 superior ballistas? We took out the siege so we could fight on even terms.
Here’s the result
yeah how much money did you guys waste on golems XD 60 gold? in any case I’m sure we all had fun farming you guys XD
don’t take this victory away from me, we won fair and square against the odds and I can’t say I’ve been this happy as a commander in a while
dang DR you sure got a lot of people tonight!
DR’s “skeleton crew” :P your not as outmanned during these hours as you think, gotta give our aussies some credit for being able to put up with this!
That looks to be just over 10 players. Give me a call when you have 30+ chasing you.
the screenshot doesn’t include the 5 man group we wiped prior to the rest of the DR zerg entering vale. DR had a solid 20 man group running around on DR BL, just wanted to point it out since you guys are always saying that the oceanics face zero resistance when they take your keeps.
My god IoJ, a 50-60 man zerg on DR right now…The numbers you are turning out are insane!
If we are in first place we get 40-50 zergs but when we were losing it’s lucky for us to get even 15 man zerg. That’s a fact from IoJ.
Hmm, 40-50 (or is it 50-60?) against 20. Yes, it’s a skeleton crew if compared to your late night crew.
That group of 40-50 we had didn’t last very long, they all went to bed at around 12:30AM-1:00AM CST. By 3:00AM we had less then 15 people in your borderlands.
DR’s “skeleton crew” :P your not as outmanned during these hours as you think, gotta give our aussies some credit for being able to put up with this!
That looks to be just over 10 players. Give me a call when you have 30+ chasing you.
the screenshot doesn’t include the 5 man group we wiped prior to the rest of the DR zerg entering vale. DR had a solid 20 man group running around on DR BL, just wanted to point it out since you guys are always saying that the oceanics face zero resistance when they take your keeps.
DR’s “skeleton crew” :P your not as outmanned during these hours as you think, gotta give our aussies some credit for being able to put up with this!
had fun dueling a guardian from Oink behind the windmill, I would of liked to see how it ended but unfortunately I dc’ed I probably won’t be on much this week since I’ll be dealing with my ISP and see if they can fix this packet loss issue I’ve been dealing with for over a month.
just wanted to say I had fun 1v5ing the guys from OBS, I lost every time our paths crossed but there sure are some great sports in that group I tell ya
here’s a pic of me getting outplayed
Looks like it’s 1v4 to me considering you are in their party.
Also, from what I hear you were the one who joined them after /laughing at them. What do you expect when being the premiere forum trash talker from IoJ?
I was laughing because they had spent 5 minutes trying to catch me and I wasn’t even running a perma stealth build, I’m a noob when it comes to playing thief so I found it funny. Also your right it wasn’t 5 OBS it was 4 and one from some guild with a tag AD I think?
Sigh, ppl posting like Gab is what started all the hate and drama around IoJ and DR.
No, posts like this…
enjoy getting spawn camped at night for the rest of the week
… are what started it.
But you are of course completely unbiased.
uh, no I think when you just out of the blue started smack talking IoJ guilds you might have started something…
just wanted to say I had fun 1v5ing the guys from OBS, I lost every time our paths crossed but there sure are some great sports in that group I tell ya
here’s a pic of me getting outplayed