Guild Wars 2

Recycle.5493:

I’m just gonna leave this here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvWTnqxSIm0

Experienced that a couple of times. Trying to use pingplotter to troubleshoot my connection, and Anet server 206.127.146.73 is at about 30% packet loss. No other steps on my way to them shows any packet loss at all, and ping is rock solid.

ISP checked my connection – it’s working excellent according to what they can measure.

Only tested in pve so far:

I find the trait to be very good now that it actually works, especially in combination with remorseless.
Going to give it a go in pvp soon.

nldixon.8514:

Somebody send me about a thousand bucks and I’ll upgrade my PC so I can make some videos of Rangers doing awesome things. We have enough videos of Rangers drowning in their own tears.

Sigh.

You’re clearly and utterly missing the points of the videos. Go troll somewhere else.

Thanks AlexRD for posting this! Don’t know if one should laugh or cry – it really is this bad. Closing this thread? Nah, should be stickied to get some attention. Video 2 and 3… classes balanced? Lol!

Awesome! Will have to check this out for sure!

Leaf.3156:

Still nothing for rangers in today’s patch…

Wasn’t really expecting a patch at all today, can’t say I’m disappointed tbh.

Could this in any way be realted to the lag issues many of us are experiencing?

I’ve only had this happen to me once or twice, and am also experiencing severe lag from time to time.

I’d like a pet that can land hits in pvp way better than all the current ones.

RaZaC.1963:

As main sPvP organizer of our guild I can safely say that this happens at least one time every tournament. Its getting bloody annoying, it seems to be completely random.

The following happens:
-You die
-Press return to waypoint
-Loading screen pop-up
-Keep hearing the sound of battle at the spot that I died.
-Endless loading screen

Exactly this.

And look what a nice little message they tossed at me after being stuck at loading screen for a good while. Oh, the irony in this message – I’m next to speechless!

All you’ll get to hear, it’s our isp’s. There are a helluva many isp’s that are really bad then. Only for playing GW2 of course.

restoration.2806:

Good suggestion and for the search and rescue ability I think it should be an instant rez.

Of course it should. Also, the cooldown of the ability shouldn’t be triggered until an actual res did take place. Currently, this skill is not only rather poor, but it also bugs out at least half the time, wasting a long cd on nothing. Poor game design – again.

Agadar.4931:

Serraphin Storm.2369:

The 1h sword is a great weopan. It can hit up to 3 targets and it cripples. Any ranger attemping to use a 1h sword should without exeption take auto attack off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbNuv4T8J1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ5f7iEEFZc&feature=plcp

Ranger should learn to master this weopan without auto attack.

Just beucase other class dont have to remove auto attack isnt a reason for a ranger not to remove it.

Nobody should learn how to master a weapon without auto attack just to make it viable. That is logically flawed.

We’re rangers, we have to work twice as hard, and be at least twice as good as other classes to be competitive – fact of the day!

Insane lag spikes in spvp again today. My isp have checked my connection, and it’s absolutely top notch.

This lag is annoying as hell in regular pve, when it happens in pvp it makes me wanna smash things!

Played several duels vs a thief today, me as a ranger. I run a defensive build, just to be able to withstand at least some damage. Or so I thought.

Here’s how almost every duel played out:

Thief going stealth → first attack takes a large chunk of health, I’m stunned and can’t really do anything. Manage to get away, trying to land cripple, pet knockdown, traps, in short everything I have at my disposal. If I’m lucky I can manage to get away a few yards. Thief goes stealth again, and next attack that hits me and I’m down.

This goes on for a few rounds. I’m trying different skills, different traits, different weapons, different pets, nothing seems to help me in any way. I can’t outrun the thief, he’s always in my face. I can’t outdamage in melee, not even close. I can’t cc enough to keep my distance. I can’t put enough traps to do any significant damage, he seems to be able to loose all conditions I put on him easily. I’m lucky if I can get him down to half health before he’s bursted my sorry azz to the ground, again and again and again.

It was a useful lesson for sure. L2P? Indeed, I need to improve. But, even when I burn everything I have at my disposal, 90% of the time I’m not even close. Not even the entangle elite skill can keep the thief off of me – he simply entered stealth again and slipped passed my 150 second cd elite.

In one game, both of us got to the downed state (he must’ve been slackin’!), and I though now I can outlast him! But hell no, even when I called my pet to “lick wounds”, all the while I tossed throw dirt and thunderclap at him, he won that duel as well.

L2P? Possibly.
OP? Imho – without a doubt, at least vs rangers.

Fook.3914:

it should be passive pet ability, because animals can smell or sense .

This!

Even if the ranger can’t acutally see the opponent in stealth, pets should be able to!

I’m trying to keep a distance from opponents, but I find it very, very hard to do so, they always seem able to run faster and close any gaps I’ve managed to get.

Shortbow 4 for cripple, shortbow 3 for evading backwards and gain swiftness, longbow 4 for knockback, spiketrap, frostrap, two dogs with knockdowns/fear/immobilize, frozen on crit from weapons. All these cc abilities, and still many, many opponents are there, right in my face. When trying to run, it’s like running in mud – it feels like I’m extremely slow compared to others, and stuck in combat longer than my opponents.

When trying to chase someone, I hardly ever can catch up, its seems most every other class is faster, for some reason. When they chase me however, I simply can’t outrun them, even if placing traps in my trails.

Anyone else sharing my experiences with the ranger class?

Recycle.5493:

Here’s another short 10-second vid of the issue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls5gsVvYQn4

Exactly, this is what I’m experiencing as well, from time to time.

I don’t think we’ll ever get an official response on these issues though

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NaturalPortman.9562:

nldixon.8514:

NaturalPortman.9562:

OGDeadHead.8326:

NaturalPortman.9562:

OGDeadHead.8326:

NaturalPortman.9562:

aPutridCorpse.8792:

NaturalPortman.9562:

aPutridCorpse.8792:

I would like the option as well.
For those that want to use the pets all the time they can, for those that don’t they have the option but will lose any utilities that comes with the pets.

that’s stupid and will never happen. its our special class mechanic.

If you mean special olympics “special” then yes, I agree.

Pet’s aren’t even that bad. The only real issue they have is coming down ledges, other than that they have no issues. I don’t have any trouble controlling mine.

You clearly have never played (s)pvp with your pet.

Clearly I have, learn to control your pet please.

Gee, another one!? So, the only issues with pets is the “coming down ledges”? Are you effin’ serious – honestly?? Or are you actually a thief/mesmer, coming here to troll the ranger forums?

Please refer to my previous response if your only issue with pets is hitting them while the enemy is moving. And if your other issue is f2 being iffy with responsiveness, there is a trick to using it instantly but clearly you haven’t figured that out yet.

In all fairness the F3 trick is kind of dumb and is just circumnavigating a poorly designed mechanic. F2 should just clear the pet queue and activate.

Was not talking about the f3 trick.

Pet swap + instantly use their F2 ability.

NaturalPortman.9562:

OGDeadHead.8326:

NaturalPortman.9562:

OGDeadHead.8326:

NaturalPortman.9562:

aPutridCorpse.8792:

NaturalPortman.9562:

aPutridCorpse.8792:

I would like the option as well.
For those that want to use the pets all the time they can, for those that don’t they have the option but will lose any utilities that comes with the pets.

that’s stupid and will never happen. its our special class mechanic.

If you mean special olympics “special” then yes, I agree.

Pet’s aren’t even that bad. The only real issue they have is coming down ledges, other than that they have no issues. I don’t have any trouble controlling mine.

You clearly have never played (s)pvp with your pet.

Clearly I have, learn to control your pet please.

Gee, another one!? So, the only issues with pets is the “coming down ledges”? Are you effin’ serious – honestly?? Or are you actually a thief/mesmer, coming here to troll the ranger forums?

Please refer to my previous response if your only issue with pets is hitting them while the enemy is moving. And if your other issue is f2 being iffy with responsiveness, there is a trick to using it instantly but clearly you haven’t figured that out yet.

Oh, yes I have! But it was you who said that the only issue with pets was the “coming down ledges”-issue, right? So, I ask you again – is that the only issues with pets, as you see it?

NaturalPortman.9562:

OGDeadHead.8326:

NaturalPortman.9562:

aPutridCorpse.8792:

NaturalPortman.9562:

aPutridCorpse.8792:

I would like the option as well.
For those that want to use the pets all the time they can, for those that don’t they have the option but will lose any utilities that comes with the pets.

that’s stupid and will never happen. its our special class mechanic.

If you mean special olympics “special” then yes, I agree.

Pet’s aren’t even that bad. The only real issue they have is coming down ledges, other than that they have no issues. I don’t have any trouble controlling mine.

You clearly have never played (s)pvp with your pet.

Clearly I have, learn to control your pet please.

Gee, another one!? So, the only issues with pets is the “coming down ledges”? Are you effin’ serious – honestly?? Or are you actually a thief/mesmer, coming here to troll the ranger forums?

Of course it can be done. Vs good players, not so much.

NaturalPortman.9562:

aPutridCorpse.8792:

NaturalPortman.9562:

aPutridCorpse.8792:

I would like the option as well.
For those that want to use the pets all the time they can, for those that don’t they have the option but will lose any utilities that comes with the pets.

that’s stupid and will never happen. its our special class mechanic.

If you mean special olympics “special” then yes, I agree.

Pet’s aren’t even that bad. The only real issue they have is coming down ledges, other than that they have no issues. I don’t have any trouble controlling mine.

You clearly have never played (s)pvp with your pet.

arenta.2953:

can we please have an option to make ranger without pet.

No. No, no and no. Hell no. Fix pets!

Good idea (been mentioned before), but I would love if pets had an inherent ability to “sniff out” stealthed targets! But for what it’s worth, adding this effect to “Guard” would probably make the skill somewhat useful in (s)pvp.

nldixon.8514:

If your pet cooperates, bursting on a Ranger is actually very easy. Also, if you build for it, drakes can unleash an unholy amount of damage in a couple seconds by themselves.

Good luck getting your drakes to land their specials in spvp. Not even in when you’re in melee range swapping to a drake and instantly use its F2 ability (under quickness), you can be sure to land its attack. They simply take to much time to get their special attack out.

Topic!

It would be helpful for us ‘casuals’, that like to swing a beer or two!

Happened for me for the first time yesterday, spvp.

The reason for them never implementing this, is because of mesmers, so no, we won’t see that – ever.

Actually, I kind of agree with the op, it’s the other classes that in many aspects are quite a bit overpowered if you compare rangers to them. So, buff the ranger, or bring the others down?

Pyrial.2917:

I think that reset cool downs would be a great feature, but I don’t think it’s as important (right now) as ratings or a leaderboard is…

True I guess, but this would probably be a lot easier and faster to implement.

Sure sounds like a bug to me, good find.

anonymouse.9053:

If more of their focus is on new content instead of restoring hacked accounts or fixing bugs that affect a very small subset of the player base, I see nothing wrong with that.

Doh, isn’t that what they are doing? Focusing on new content and fluff items instead of fixing bugs/classbalance/whatever… sigh.

Bugs first, then content. But I digress, back on topic – sorry.

DragonFlu.7314:

I’m thinking the “guard” skill that plops your pet into a defensive position should also give your pet the ability to detect/remove stealth. That’s where you can get the “sniffed out” flavor for our pets as well as provide some sort of way to handle stealth.

By far the best suggestion in this thread.

Fellknight.4820:

OGDeadHead.8326:

Panther Chameleon.8465:

Give it a really long cooldown…or some kind of cool visual effect. Think of a strobe light where instead of just straight up taking everyone out of stealth they blink in and out of stealth for 3 sec

Please correct me if I misunderstand you, but you want to waste an elite slot, for a “reveal” type of skill that

a) has a really long cooldown, by that I guess you mean 4 minutes+ ?

and

b) lasts for a puny 3 seconds?

IF this is what you meant, I’m sorry but who in their right mind would ever take such an unbelievable underpowered elite – ever?

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Pets being able to stick to stealthed targets would be a nice thing though. Not attacking through stealth, just following the stealthed opponent.

So a reveal to the most op’d mechanic in the game is worthless, when it’s something that every smart player would just about kill for, but Natures Spirit isn’t? LOL and why does reveal suddenly have a 4 minute cooldown when no other elite has a CD that long.

<Scratches head>

Are you serious lol you gotta be trolling

Go back, read again. Thanks.

A “reveal” elite skill would be nice, but if it were to be an elite skill that would be active for 3 seconds with a long cooldown, just like the OP posted, it would be utterly useless, simple as that.

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“LOL and why does reveal suddenly have a 4 minute cooldown when no other elite has a CD that long.”

To name one: Spirit of Nature, 4 minutes cooldown.

Good idea. Should also apply to swapping ranger pets.

You may also want to check the criteria for which team a new joining player appears on. Let’s say you’ve got a game with 3vs3 players (in a 5vs5 game), blue team in the lead with 200 – 50 points. The new player that arrives shouldn’t then join the blue team imho, but rather the red team, to help the (at the time) loosing side.

Also, try even out classes more when they join a match, if this would be possible. This is for hotjoin spvp only, of course.

felivear.1536:

I love that they are not used in SPvP and TPvP. I really hate choosing a race in order to get the most out of my character. In WoW, you are at a disadvantage right from the start if you are not a human (or undead before the WotF nerf).

In a game mode that tries to put each player on equal footing, having even small imbalances with racials = a bad thing (imho)

Agree, racial abilities should never be allowed in to spvp. You may think they should all be balanced, but it wouldn’t take long to see that that isn’t the case. They’re no more balanced than the different classes.

Mira.4906:

If you are getting a lot of lag, ask around the map your in if other people are having the same problem. This will determine if it is something on your end or their end.

It can lag for some players even though others are just fine, on the very same map. It’s something with their servers, and it’s been reported hundreds of times in different threads all over the forum here. Ping can be rock solid and low, and still some of us can experience lag lasting up to 20 seconds or more.

I’ve posted one example on yt, what it may look like when this lag kicks in:

Bad quality, but should still be quite visible at the end of the clip.

Panther Chameleon.8465:

Give it a really long cooldown…or some kind of cool visual effect. Think of a strobe light where instead of just straight up taking everyone out of stealth they blink in and out of stealth for 3 sec

Please correct me if I misunderstand you, but you want to waste an elite slot, for a “reveal” type of skill that

a) has a really long cooldown, by that I guess you mean 4 minutes+ ?

and

b) lasts for a puny 3 seconds?

IF this is what you meant, I’m sorry but who in their right mind would ever take such an unbelievable underpowered elite – ever?

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Pets being able to stick to stealthed targets would be a nice thing though. Not attacking through stealth, just following the stealthed opponent.

Hi Anet team!

Just wondering why it is that you seem to prefer answering questions and announce things on other places than here, on your own forum? For example on reddit?

Just curious, since I would believe the first place you’d expect to be able to read news and/or questions answered would be here, not on twitter, not on reddit, not on facebook or who knows what other places you frequently ‘hang on’.

:)

Leadfoot.9071:

Their phantasms do pump out quite a load of dmg at times so it is important to kill them or avoid them somehow.

Indeed, unlike ranger pets. Also, it seems they actually hit their targets every now and then.

Anyway, due to the somewhat chaotic gameplay GW2 comes with, mesmers benefit from that more than any other class in the game. Quickly trying to identify and target the real mesmer in that chaos of clones and quite likely other players takes time even for the most skilled players, all the while you get hit constantly.
They do feel a bit over the top tbh.

Joiry.2504:

Every profession forum has its complaints about a particular class.

But, ask yourself this, how many cries of “nerf X ability of ranger” do you come across?

Every other class seems to have something considered op by another. Not that these things are necessarily overpowered because someone says so – but its at least an indication that those abilities are strong. But not rangers. Once I heard someone complain about Barrage in WvW, but turns out they were confusing arrow carts with the ranger skill…

QFT.

This is sadly just so true.

Ranger
Warrior
Necro

Guardian

Thief
Engineer

Elementalist
Mesmer
(Thief)
(Engineer)

Depending on build, thief and engineer are right up there as well.

Thing is, as a ranger, you got to work immensely harder than any other class to earn your kills.
’ve never rofl steamrolled any other opponent, unless they are bad.

With players of equal skill, the ranger (and possibly the necro) comes out short every time in my experience. We lack in every aspect currently. We can’t jump in a take someone down in a few seconds since we lack the burst, we have to be better than the opposition to stand a chance. With other classes, you can win even if you play like crap.

The no#1 flaw with our class is the lackluster pets. They work decently in regular pve, not so good in dungeons, and in pvp vs skilled players, they simply don’t work at all, you should be glad if your pet hits once every 20-30 second. Noone fears a pet in pvp.

Elloni.2473:

Kline.9561:

OGDeadHead.8326:

Fighting an evading thief underwater is fun… really fun. Impossible to hit, except for one stray shot every 10 seconds or so. Another intended mechanic I guess?

does very little damage/avoidable and in my experience thieves always get eaten alive by warrior weapon combos underwater or just ranged weapons underwater in general

You’re not getting it. The thief in this scenario isn’t trying to kill anything only keep you from capping a point while you sit their and watch “evade, evade, evade, evade.”

This.

There are too many ppl making comments that don’t even understand what’s being discussed here.

Dual.8953:

Again, has anyone tried ranged attack? Shadow Assault is like an under water version of Blurred Frenzy, it roots the Thief and it doesn’t have a specific target. Nine Tailed Strike is purely a melee counter so it’s lacking in range. Thier only gap closer is Tow Line, which is like an inverse Scorpion Wire. In other words, if you avoid Melee Range, Thief isn’t anything special. At a range, just be sure to avoid Hasted Deluge.

If by that you mean, ranged attacks vs the thief, then yes. Used speargun, every single attack I could + melee pet, and like I said, except for a tiny hit every 10 seconds or so, I just couldn’t hit the thief, neither me using every ranged attack I could, nor my pet at melee range. But of course, I myself got hit all the freakin time, except when dodging attacks.

Batlav.6318:

krojack you are right but believe me i know when i get healed and when not
it works most of the time but it is still a broken skill

This.

I uploaded a short pve sequence, that shows the lag issue. For some reason the uploaded video got really crappy quality, but I think you’ll be able to see what’s going on anyway.

The lag is particulary visible at the end, when fighting the risen abomination. Should also mention that this is far from the more extreme lag I’m experiencing from time to time, I’ve had lag spikes lasting close to ~20 seconds or so.

Clip on yt:

http://goo.gl/JRmg2

Fellknight.4820:

TGSlasher.1458:

Stomping from stealth is the only one I don’t like, don’t really care for the others (stability, invulnerable, blind). With the others I know if I’m gonna get stomped and whether to use my escape / interrupt / just die. With the stealth mechanic I just pop my escape at the moment I think a stealth downed is coming, or try to get a lucky interrupt on it. The problem is you can only attack a target or directly forward, so you can’t even attack backward where the thief is most likely hiding.

It seems your unaware of what blindness does, blindess is much more effective for stomping then stealth because you can use all of your interupt abilities and they have zero effect on the person stomping you. A guardian can still interupt a stealthed stomper but not one who used blindness. A smart thief doesn’t waste stealth on stomping only on rezzing. If your one of the few classes with a teleport, stealth, or escape than you have more or the same op’d tactics as the people stomping you.

As a ranger I feel a little… left out in the cold, tbh.

Fighting an evading thief underwater is fun… really fun. Impossible to hit, except for one stray shot every 10 seconds or so. Another intended mechanic I guess?