Guild Wars 2

Now while I’ve been saying that runes of perplexity aren’t THAT bad, I agree it’s gimmicky and makes it way easier to kill people without requiring you to play any better. A cool down for the 6th ability would make things much more balanced, and get rid of all the spamming nonsense.

Player Character.9467:

lunyboy.8672:

I like them very much on my engineer, but I have to agree that they are beyond ridiculous on “headshot” spamming thieves, and stun-lock warriors.

What’s more hilarious is when a 5+ person team is ALL using them, like certain pvp wannabe guilds my server is facing at the moment.

They’re more ridiculous on engis than warriors… engi can spam interrupts while still applying other types of conditions.

You’d be giving up a LOT on an engineer if you want to get to the stage where you can “spam” interrupts. Lots of warriors using the runes in a team fight will be nasty since you can’t expect everyone to evade all of it, but it’s handleable in a duel. A good headshot thief could potentially be troublesome to handle, but I’ve honestly never met one before who could sustain it for long. I’ll reserve judgement until I do :o

Cynz.9437:

the problem is that it is really easy to reapply it while removing condition has certain requirements and is usually not spammable

I will bring example a thief: yes they can trait into condi removal, but they would have to go in stealth to do so – to go in stealth they either would have to attack or use relative long CD spells like refuge or hide in shadows.

Not to mention there is DR on stealth, meaning a thief can stealth only 3 times in given amount of time, after that they are immune to stealth for a while and can’t remove conditions outside of…activating sigil which also has long CD. Once thief has no means of removing confusion except to wait.

Additinally, either it is black powder/heartseeker stealth or CnD stealth, all of them do dmg, meaning if thief has confusion stacks on them they dmg themself trying to remove confusion.

And once again, not to forget that all of that either costs initiative or has long CD, so is not spammable compared to confusion spam.

Now in real situation, knowing how much time thief would spend trying to remove those confusions they are eaither dead or had to run away.

Simply put there, no matter how you try you won’t have enough condition removals to deal with all those conditions. The rune needs long ICD.

P.S. now i just noticed that you play mesmer, engi and guardian, so it explains why you would defend something so broken.

I’ve never used runes of perplexity, and never will. I have way better things to spend my money on I’m just stating these runes have never bothered me much on the classes I play. I am however, actually very tempted to get these runes for my guardian, and watch zergs kill themselves on confusion when I put down wardings for tower/keep defence.

Now I’m no expert as a thief, but I’m fairly sure a good thief doesn’t rely on skill spam so 1) confusion shouldn’t be an issue where you accidental spam yourself to death without realising it and 2) You become way harder to interrupt. Good thieves I’ve duelled all do damage mitigation by evades, go into stealth, deal a ton of damage, and pop back out far away, with little button mashing or auto attack involved. That means interrupts are actually hard to land, they’re likely going to evade it, and they wont be spamming skills at the same time. Plus, they’re going to be stealthed frequently, even if it is just for the few seconds before they land a stealth opening move after a CnD or something, and using 1-2 skills under confusion isn’t going to kill you. The point is, the really good thieves I’ve played against don’t allow themselves into a situation where they can be interrupted. Obviously there’s a few different builds out there, but most viable thief builds rely on the same tactics, and because it is hard to land a targeted skill on them, people find thieves OP.

The counter to these thief builds is big AoE attacks and knowing when to dodge their stealth opening moves, so I can imagine decent hammer stun warriors becoming an issue, but melee classes are going to be less mobile and that plays to the thief’s advantage.

However, most wvw thieves ARE trashy, don’t evade properly, and do spam themselves to death, or otherwise get completely confused when their standard gank skill rotation gets messed up. I’m all for thieves 2222222ing themselves to death

A better example would be mesmer, since there’s very limited condi removal options on them. A tanky mesmer traited for condi removal on shatter, or else using torch, will have things easy. Otherwise, you become reliant on long cd null field or arcane thievery. If a duel becomes a match of attrition, you’re probably going to lose against someone who can stack confusion, but then again, it’s the same if you’re up against any condition classes. If a necro gets a signet of spite on you with your condi removals on cd, you’re basically dead, and that’s the way it’s been since the start of gw2. Your best bet against a condi class would be to moa the guy and burst them down during the 10 seconds, or be super clever with your clones and stealth so the guy never gets a target on you.

Well seeing as conditions are pretty much a huge part of the pvp meta (and I mean pvp in the general sense of the word, not the game mode), I don’t see why you wouldn’t be running condition removals in wvw in the first place. Without sufficient condi removal, you’re pretty much walking free loot bags. If you’re unwilling to sacrifice certain utilities/trait points to have condi removal at hand at all times, you only have yourself to blame when you get melted down by things like confusion. The 4 classes I know well and regularly play (mes, guard, engi, necro) all have sufficient condition removals with several commonly viable wvw builds. I know thief and ele also have plenty of condi removal options. I’ve just never found myself in the position where confusion has become an issue during a fight, but maybe that’s because I haven’t met any good players running them yet.

Hard counter – condition removal. I’ve never had a problem playing against people running perplexity runes from any classes. I regularly run mesmer, guardian and engineer, while levelling a necro, and it’s honestly made no difference to me – I can either kill people faster than they can consistently stack confusion, out remove their conditions, or both. Procing the confusion stacks does what, 2k damage? Great, I’ll just eat that damage.

Yes, we definitely need some sort of system in place that discourages ganging up on the LAST PLACE SERVER, as the current system illogically does. The servers coming 1st and 2nd see the 3rd place server as easy free points, either to maintain a lead or to catch up in points respectively.

gotem.5284:

Mariticide.1970:

gotem.5284:

Opc.4718:

K U T M.4539:

Why does KAOS seem to be taking PPT seriously

There’s a difference between taking PPT seriously and getting kitten ed at people who shoot themselves in the foot and ruin the fun for others because they want the easy way out of things. AR is getting locked out by both HoD and ET zergs, which would be fine if ET didn’t spend all their time zerging against AR while they get their stuff taken by HoD. There is absolutely no reason for ET to be zerging AR, no strategic value, no fun, and you’re LOSING points. Enjoy your PvD.

You’re either playing wvw because you’re serious about the game mode and PPT, in which case your tactics are failing hard, or you’re there for the fights, in which case I have no idea why you’re PvDing and avoiding the other server presence on the map. Otherwise you’re there to zerg some wxp, in which case I still have no respect for you taking the easy way out.

This isn’t even a classic “oh they’re ganging up on me” complaint, I get it happens in wvw, this is ET being really stupid ganging up against AR with HoD who is visibly stabbing ET in the back in the meantime, and thus screwing over themselves and doubly screwing over AR.

Of course I’m generalising the server as a whole, and I really can’t blame the clueless pugs or your roamers, but I got a beef with your commanders who do this kind of thing.

Yeah man got to attack HoD matchup ends in a few hours and only down by 70k points… HERE COMES THE TURN AROUND!

Do you even think before you rant like this? I wasn’t even there but common sense would say…

1) Matchup ends tonight
2) ET only has enough for 1 zerg at this time of day (zerg is probably 10-15 people)
3) HoD BL fully upgraded and more HoD running around in our BL
4) AR BL is never upgraded because it flips all the time
5) The zerg not caring about PPT probably just wanted to PvD (which is 99% of golem rushes anyway)

It’s a pretty simple conclusion when you just stop and take 10 seconds to think instead of just rushing here and posting your nonsense.

I greatly appreciate you proving our point. There are people who WvW for fights, people who WvW for PPT and the stratagem, and people who WvW for…..PvDoor grinding for mats. You have shown your purpose, and for that I thank you.

Yes, every ET member just PvDoors all day; they never look for a fight.

You have caught our dirty little secret.

I was going to make another common sense response but then I realized I’m talking to an idiot.

I said ET was doing this ALL WEEK. I’m pointing it out now in retrospect with examples. I apologize for not posting this rant at a more convenient time for your liking.

Also, I pointed out I’m deliberately generalizing the server on the whole, because it’s easier to say ET rather than “the commanders of ET who do stupid things like this” every single time. Your commanders certainly show a strong reluctance to engage in real fights, and instead PvD their way to glory. All week. My insult is directed at them specifically, whoever they may be.

So don’t play the path with the expectation of getting the skin. You’re just setting yourself up for disappointment. Skin acquisition is just a happy bonus you get on the off chance, but it’s certainly not integral to your progress in this game. If you want to go that extra mile to get the perfect skin you think will match your character, that’s your decision and you can work for it to get it. Otherwise, what the hell is the point of playing the game? Just be glad it’s not account bound.

Wow you people are brainwashed into thinking getting rewarded is “fun”. It’s not. The rewards are entirely worthless virtual pixels. You play games to experience the game and have fun. That’s what games are for. Ultimately you will leave the game and all these rewards become worthless. The only thing valuable you get out of it is the experience itself. Sure it’s nice to be rewarded since it contributes to the game experience, but now it feels like people are demanding rewards to be handed to them on a silver platter for the most superficial things.

This is exactly what gambling addicts are like, they are addicted to the promise of getting rewarded, even though the reward ends up being worthless compared to the time/money invested into it.

Don’t fall into this trap, play the game for the sake of the game, not for the “rewards”, otherwise you’ll find yourself disappointed with the hollow experience and wondering why you bothered in the first place.

K U T M.4539:

Oh sorry. I’ve only ran into KAOS in a roaming capacity, thought they were that type of guild.

mah bad

I can’t really speak for KAOS, but I know some of the guys relatively well, and my post above explains why many of us are really kitten ed at this matchup, even more so than usual. Even for roamers, we all have a vested interest in seeing AR succeed, and this kind of stuff makes people rage.

K U T M.4539:

Why does KAOS seem to be taking PPT seriously

There’s a difference between taking PPT seriously and getting kitten ed at people who shoot themselves in the foot and ruin the fun for others because they want the easy way out of things. AR is getting locked out by both HoD and ET zergs, which would be fine if ET didn’t spend all their time zerging against AR while they get their stuff taken by HoD. There is absolutely no reason for ET to be zerging AR, no strategic value, no fun, and you’re LOSING points. Enjoy your PvD.

You’re either playing wvw because you’re serious about the game mode and PPT, in which case your tactics are failing hard, or you’re there for the fights, in which case I have no idea why you’re PvDing and avoiding the other server presence on the map. Otherwise you’re there to zerg some wxp, in which case I still have no respect for you taking the easy way out.

This isn’t even a classic “oh they’re ganging up on me” complaint, I get it happens in wvw, this is ET being really stupid ganging up against AR with HoD who is visibly stabbing ET in the back in the meantime, and thus screwing over themselves and doubly screwing over AR.

Of course I’m generalising the server as a whole, and I really can’t blame the clueless pugs or your roamers, but I got a beef with your commanders who do this kind of thing.

ET, stop being kitten looking for easy points. You’re marching a golem army through half our BL while we’re busy fighting HoD on the other half, and meanwhile HoD takes ET’s BL AND ET’s corner of EB. Have to agree with Dovgan on this one, no respect for you bottom feeders on ET. HoD has such a huge lead in points because ET keeps pulling stunts like this throughout the week – defend your own crap from HoD and let us get back our stuff from HoD so we don’t BOTH fail hard to HoD.

My bad, AR is labelled as “Very high”. I thought the terms would’ve been low, medium, high.

Wouldn’t it make more sense for the cost of server transfer to be proportional to the server’s wvw ranking, rather than total population size? If I wanted to PvE/hang around in PvP on another server I can guest there for free, but if I want to play wvw on that server, I have to actually BE on that server. By that logic, the cost of transfer should be based on wvw activity (and the easiest metric to count that would be server ranking). This would encourage players to move to low tier wvw servers while discouraging stacking in T1 servers, and thus go a long way towards better population balance. That and also if I want to help my friends transfer to a low tier server where I’m playing, I don’t have to pay a ridiculous amount of gold/money.

At the moment, it costs 1800 gems to transfer to Anvil Rock, which is roughly 90g, because we have non-existent “very high” population. Anvil Rock is the 2nd last place wvw server. It makes absolutely no logical sense to have to pay that much money to get people on our server to BALANCE OUT POPULATION ISSUES. It should be FREE to transfer to a t8 server. By the current system, AR has the same apparent population as a T1 server, and so costs the same to transfer to either one. That’s obviously not true.

Lol don’t feel bad, I went with a few friends, all of us first timers, and we ended up taking about 2+ hours to complete the dungeon. It was 5am for half of us and we were just way too tired to comprehend strategies.

Wouldn’t scepter be better than axe, simply because of the ground targettable AoE cripple/bleed? Or does the axe retal really contribute that much to the fight?

Ostricheggs.3742:

http://www.twitch.tv/ostricheggs/c/3023218

One of the funner moments of the match this week

That sigh at the end…sums up the video very well. Rofl nice job.

Transfer to AR, where we’ve never seen a queue in…30 weeks?

Same old story, it’s happened to MANY servers already. What can you do about it? Help rebuild your community. AR at one point was a T5 server, after clawing our way out from T7. Long story short, several huge 500 man guilds transferred out or went dead (coincidentally one of them went to DB) and we dropped to rock bottom as The Last Place server. However, through the efforts of our community, we’re making our way up now. Its been 26 weeks and counting since we came first, but we came 2nd for the first time in 13 weeks just 2 weeks ago. A hard work in progress, but progress nonetheless.

In any case, you don’t know the meaning of ghost town and dead wvw until you’ve reached this pit. We’ve come out of the crucible stronger for it, and even better, it’s given everyone a tangible sense of achievement. tl;dr it’s not the end of the world, and the best fights comes when you’re outnumbered and outgunned around every corner.

inb4 hurr durr the game is called GW2 because of the lore. Yes because I’m totally playing this game for its pitiful excuse of a lore. The “Guild Wars” aren’t even relevant to the story plot, it happened some time in the distant past blabla cares were given and then more dragons were needed. I had to look it up on the kitten wiki to find out what the heck people were going on about.

Now why can’t anet be creative and do something like a re-enactment of the guild wars – with real guilds! Invent some lore behind the battles! Just like in fractals! Plenty of people would be all over that and plus, you get content relevant to the game’s namesake!

Doulou Le Relou.9762:

draugris.9872:

timidobserver.7925:

I like seeing an Anet rep stating his real opinion rather than the usual canned garbage. I would honest respect Anet less if the guy is punished.

Just because you have a personal problem with gvg in general does not mean that an Anet Employee is allowed to behave in such a way. Watch the Video, he was asked to leave and also the opposing guild tried friendly to make him leave ( they did not kill him). After that it got unfriendly. So he had many opportunities to leave before that. He chose to troll and when you do that you have to handle the response.

Watched the video… He was asked to leave being called a kitten kitten…

It’s been said before, but I’ll repeat. There is only 3 reasons why you would go to that area in the map

1) GvG/fight club
2) Skill point
3) Troll the GvG/fight club

The dev walked right into the middle of the GvG and parked himself there, for no reason other than to be a nuisance. Common decency will tell you not to get into the middle of something like that. If you persist in being a troll, expect to be trolled back. Said dev couldn’t handle being insulted so he turned on the big guns to prove a point. This was poor behaviour on the part of the dev. /thread, whether or not you approve of GvGs is irrelevant.

Zackie.8923:

“customer is king” is not an excuse for you to go all out and abuse employees.

Again, watch the video, it was deliberate provocation by the dev.

Sylv.5324:

AggieTechGuy.4901:

The rule is kind of unclear. What constitutes “authorized personnel”? So any ANet employee can whip out his giant “I’m special” guild tag and start ordering people around?

He was justified in whipping it out when he was being slagged for just standing there.

For some reason, folks seem to think that having an anet tag (or just being a random player) is an excuse for them to be treated like kitten, and that they should just take it because they are employees. I’m glad he spoke up, regardless of the underlying incident, because folks were acting like entitled brats.

Hopefully this won’t derail any progress toward GvG, because using this as a reason to kitten about it IMO is lousy, and showing them support just shows support for the toxic behavior that’s become rampant in certain parts of the community these last few months expecially.

Have you seen the video yet? The flaming on the part of the players was because of an act of deliberate provocation on the part of the dev. That’s not excusable no matter how you spin it.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Moderator

We expect all community members to be respectful of one another. Please do not make rude and disrespectful remarks regarding other members of the community, even if they were being rude or insulting to you.

I just want ANet to respond to this so I can infract them.

Oh that’s brilliant. Well played.

Spira.4578:

As much as i can see, it’s the guys that kept badtalking and not the developer.
Also – the developer was right, if these guys wanted to pvp so much, they could go to spvp and not use the wvw area for that (they are using the spots of players taht would actually like to play wvw but cant’ due to the queue)… It’s lame that you guys complain about a staff member just because he was trying to do his work..
It’s not the anet team that is acting like a 12 yo kid, it’s you.

As much as I can see, its the developer who started it when he has absolutely no reason to do so. If they want people to GvG in sPvP, they should fix the stupid game mode up, allow more than a 10v10, allow more build diversity than a lame amulet, and create better maps. If the staff member was keen on doing his work…he’d be spending the time DOING his work than standing around and trolling players.

LETS NOT GET OFF TOPIC. This guy sums up what was wrong with the whole situation very well:

some people don’t seem to understand why people are mad at what the dev did. interrupting the gvg isn’t against any rules, it may make you a kitten, but he has the same right to do it as gvgers have the right to gvg.
it’s the fact that when people got aggressive towards him telling him to stop ruining the gvg, he popped up his ANET tag as if it should mean something. i expected this sort of behavior out in the playground, “my dad can beat up your dad” and other similar kitten waving.
this should have just been another random pubbie trolling a gvg, it’s old news, nobody had to know, but no, today we finally see what kind of people are under the employ of anet.

THIS ISN’T ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIKE GVG. It’s about how unprofessional the dev FROM ANET ITSELF is acting. Whether or not you think GvG is a good idea, the conduct of the dev was undeniably poor.

saiyr.3071:

Sarrs.4831:

Andele.1306:

Morons try to play a unsupported game mode, get trolled by a quite humorous asura with power, come and complain to the source of said asura, because kitten logic.

Really hoping and expecting this to be a sockpuppet.

More like really hoping this guy found a way to hack an ANet guild tag/symbol!!

Ha! I’m wondering if that’s what happened too.

Cyhann.2609:

KcB.6890:

Cyhann.2609:

Seriously you GvG guys are getting kitten annoying lately. You are constantly crying in
every stream, every third forum post, every post about bloodlust and now you can’t
handle an A-Net Dev who simply was standing around you and was watching you?
And all that for something you should have known prior to the game that it won’t
be included any time soon. Shouldn’t you try and polish your own image a little?
If this keeps on, GvG might really become a banable offense, and I doubt you would
like that, but this way I can imagine that the devs are fed up with this scene.

Read chat logs.

Oh, sorry haven’t seen that, I just woke up minutes ago. Well it’s wierd that a dev says
something like that but even so, I doubt that you will get your GvG if you keep it up
that way, and that’s why you guys should chill down a little, after all a new gamemode
would be a nice thing to see.

Weird is putting it mildly. You don’t run a business by insulting your customers. If they’re not going to introduce a GvG game mode, the least they can do is not interfere and troll existing GvG events.

Andele.1306:

Morons try to play a unsupported game mode, get trolled by a quite humorous asura with power, come and complain to the source of said asura, because kitten logic.

Unsupported does not mean against the rules. By “trolling”, he is breaking the rules of conduct himself. Regardless of how humours it is, that was irresponsible and unprofessional conduct.

Signet of malice + SB poison field, gain ~120 health every pulse for every mob in the field. Perma full health, the more mobs the merrier You don’t even need to trait into this specifically or give up anything and the best thing is the poison fields can be spammed.

Also s/p is pretty OP against mobs, you perma blind them and whip them to death with fairly high damage output.

Empyre.2531:

@Opc.4718
You realise that most of your solutions are kinda picked from the whole kitten nal a class has, noone will have all of them at once, unless you want to be free kill to other classes. Also some require to stun break/no-ct ability first before you can use them to counter the thief burst. While a stealth/regen-build’s only limitation is the revealed buff.

A thief only has one chance to set up a burst that I’m not expecting. I can counter it every time with my engi/mesmer/guardian provided I’m not on cd at the beginning of the engagement and I run general roaming builds on all of them when I’m not in a group. If the thief doesn’t kill me immediately or bring me down low enough to finish me off with a few spam attacks, my counter attack in whatever form (ccs+burst) will either kill the thief or bring him down low enough to make him run away. Rarely do I get into a protracted battle with a thief in WvW (except when it is a bunkerish thief vs my clerics guardian) and rarely does it last long enough for the thief to set up a second cc/backstab burst. More often the thief runs away and tries again later, in which case I’ll be back on full health will no cds.

In a protracted battle, it is fairly easy to predict when a thief is about to land a backstab and use any number of evades you have with you. I don’t run specialized thief killing builds and I usually have no problems avoiding backstabs with whatever abilities I have with me. And like I said, it takes a while for a thief to land another cc’d backstab, which is when I’ll be forced to pop stun breakers.

EDIT: Also like Zacchary said, thieves have a fairly high skill ceiling and I’ve met thieves before who can make we waste my stun breakers and evades before landing a killer when I can’t counter it. Unfortunately, it’s actually pretty rare to encounter a skilful thief who doesn’t die in a panic when his carefully worked out skill rotation falls apart.

Also – thieves are suppose to do high single target damage because that’s what the class is good for. They are absolutely terrible in any largish fights because they die after accidentally running into a few AoE fields.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Opc.4718:

Engineer – drop a supply crate on them and stay inside, and just spam nades on top of yourself, the conditions absolutely melts thieves

My Mesmer laughs at Thieves
My ele cries at about everything

So the way to kill a Thief is to spam attacks :/

For an engi that’s playing condi nades that’s really the best way. I’m not experienced with other kits so I can’t say anything about them. Otherwise, you’re carefully timing blocks and evades. To actually kill a thief, you need to be able to time your ccs and either immobilize or knockback long enough (in which case you just hit the same spot even after they’ve gone stealth), interrupt their stealth skills (mainly their telegraphed heal) and pull/push out of shadow refuge. The trolly pistol/dagger thieves and the stealth chaining thieves have to be specially traited into it and they do crap damage.

The mechanism was the same back when orbs was around and there was no problem with lag. I’m certain the lag is because of an overlooked bug somewhere pretty high up in the engine of the system because its not just affecting wvw. I get huge lag spikes in PvP as well, and it’s everyone that gets affected not just me.

OP is saying he already has the gems (maybe bought with real money earlier), so there’s no point talking about gift cards or gold→gem conversions. Gems->Gold->Gems transfer is a giant waste and you lose out a significant % of the original value. I agree there should be an option to gift this if you already have the gems.

Solstice.1097:

What I am seeing here is not competitive trash talking, it’s kitteny gloating and chest-thumping from the people who very little to gloat and chest-thump about.

When we wipe zergs and take entire BLs we don’t come post about how great we are or how much so-and-so sucks.

I am all for trash-talking but let’s do it the fun way not this small-time crap

Very subtle, I see what you did there. At least when I do attempt to brag about how we just owned you and wiped a bunch of you guys, I don’t hide it as a subtext with a holier-than-thou attitude. Oh wait-

Ahmrill.7512:

Opc.4718:

Digging up a 4 month old thread, still no progress on this front xD

Now an 8 month post with no progress.

11 months now, can hardly believe it’s been almost a year. At this point, I’ll just settle for a functionality that allows me to make my dorrito visible to only guildies. Please. It can’t be that hard.

The buff is extremely balanced here in T8. The buffs change hands VERY rapidly since any tiny group can go around flipping it easily, but in the end all 3 servers have 1 stack of the buff on average. The whole place is a heaven for roamers and coordinated havoc teams and I’ve encountered several great fights already. The best part is, no server has been able to stack all 3 of the buffs for any length of time, and even if you did find yourself in that situation, the remedy is as simple as getting a buddy, jumping to a random BL, and capping the buff there.

I find that having the buff doesn’t really make any difference to the overall game anyway. 99% of the time, the fight is decided already and you either smash the enemy or get smashed. Same with 1v1s, you’ve either gained the upper hand at the start, or find yourself playing defensively for the rest of the match and losing eventually. The buffs only really make a difference if the battle was extremely even to start with. People should not use the buff as an excuse for losing a fight; you would’ve lost it anyway without the buffs on either side, unless you got to the stage where you’re both downed and throwing rocks at each other.

Antara.3189:

So I log in, and Anvil Rock is now Green….

And to make it more interesting, We are up against Borlis Pass and Yaks Bend 0_o

Ohemgee, we’re beating BP Yus!

Also, sometimes I run away from fights without even engaging because I press r and alt tab off. I usually end up dead afterwards though and feel really kitten ed about it :<

So this little graphic issue has been bugging me for a long time. Every time I view my character from a far, there is an annoying red shade to my T3 heavy armour, and it clashes horribly with the rest of my colour scheme. Since I’ll be spending the majority of the time viewing my character from afar during combat, I’d like it to look like how I want it.

I’ve tried variations on the dye combination, and unless I go with fully dark colours or a red scheme, the effect is very noticeable and makes me grind my teeth. I don’t get why there is any hint of red on my armour if all of my dyes are blue in colour. I’ve attached screenshots of far/close views of both my front and back to show you what I mean.

Note that even though I’m on low GFX settings, it’s still evident when I turn it up to max.

EDIT: Even in the close ups, you can see dark red lines crossing through the armour around sharp joints. I’m guessing this is what’s causing the red glow when you zoom out.

Hi GoM, we meet again, hoping you [RISE] guys are still around

And another rematch up against FC, will be interesting to see if GoM will come out on top of you :o

Ynot.8397:

A few things about your post and all the others you have made.
1. I was not arguing with you at all which is why I wasn’t trying to bring a valid argument and is why I didn’t address your arguments(read people’s names please and thanks).
2. If you want logic I did not say take a picture after winning 1v1s against TFH, I said take pictures after EVERY fight. That means 1v1s, 2v2s, 3v3s and every other number combination you can find. Why would someone bother making a logical argument if you wont even read what they wrote? Reading comprehension is your friend.
3. The guild website comment and not letting us see the videos was the funniest thing I have ever seen on the forums. I have a bunch of other videos that prove my point but I wont show them. You’re also a dumb if you thought that was the way to win an argument.
4. I don’t hate TFH but you are an idiot based off of your posts.
5. You are a bad.
6. You were trolled by everyone who responded to you because they all understand how dumb everything you said was. They couldn’t care less about your guild or how bad you are.

Well that was fun.

You are still a bad.

This is simply Ad hominem reasoning, you claim I am a bad and an idiot, without evidence, in an attempt to evade the original argument. How am I a bad? What exactly have I posted that is faulty in reasoning? Where have I said anything that could be construed as “dumb”, and what makes it dumb? Who are the “everyone” who shares your opinion? And in gw2, have you ever fought against me in person to determine that I suck?

If you weren’t trying to argue with me, then what I post is irrelevant to you. Your opinion of what I write is simply that, an opinion, and should bear no relevance to its actual contents. Your opinion of my writing style is then irrelevant to this match up thread. If your opinion is that of the actual contents of my posts, then you are either agreeing or disagreeing with what I write, which is then arguing with me. If you’re arguing with me, then address my points.

I assumed what you wrote was in the context of the current argument – that TFH are bad duellists – which is a perfectly reasonable assumption given that this was what everyone has been talking about in the last two pages. If you just want to see dead TFH is general, then you have an issue with TFH and not me specifically, which counters your own point 4.

I have a bunch of other videos that prove my point, but the one I specifically posted is the one that actually occurred in this matchup, and sufficiently proves my point already. My comment that I have ADDITIONAL videos is addressed to gotem, to emphasise that this is not the first time we’ve done something like this, and that the video was hardly created just for this thread. I’m pretty sure I mentioned this already too.

Trolling implies you’ve provoked an emotional response from me.

Jesse.4631:

FIght night at DR BL! Comeeeeeeeeeeee we know this matchup sucksssssss lets have some fun 5v5’s if you don’t like 1v1’s… comeeeeeeeee i’m boreddddddd

I’d put in an appearance if the fight clubs were held at a more appropriate time for me Like, maybe an hour or two from now.

Jesse.4631:

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Ohai, fun fights with [Yarr] indeed.

I’ve seen a few of you guys while roaming with a small man team, and those were solid encounters

salocinn.4120:

cauz we are all busy surfing on you guild website and looking 4-5 times at all your videos!

The guild website is private, silly. My comment was addressed to gotem to indicate that we make the videos for our own entertainment, not because I want to prove some point on the forums. To emphasise my argument, I also mentioned that we had lots of videos in that gallery, showing that this is not the first time we’ve done something like that. It wasn’t a subtle brag, but if you want to construe it that way, at least do so in the context of the argument.

Otherwise, stop pulling my words out of context.

Ynot.8397:

It is not long because you bring terribly unfunny drama to the forums. Please learn to drama.

edit: I would like pictures after every fight everyone wins against TFH. It would make me giggle.

Go!

Learn to logic, your obstinacy is not amusing. I just explained why winning a 1v1 wouldn’t mean much (although I’m still waiting on the pictures), and you don’t even bother refuting the argument, or even address it in any way. Which just makes you petty if you want to continue arguing about it.

I didn’t start the drama either, I was simply replying to accusations and now no one wants to say anything because logic is apparently difficult to argue against. We’ve gone a full circle and turned back to flinging baseless insults around. If you want to hate on TFH because you saw my posts and thought “god this guy is a try hard idiot”, that’s your prerogative but I didn’t come here to argue with YOU and I couldn’t care less about your opinion unless you have a valid argument to bring to the table. All I’ve done so far is reply to posts and I’ll continue doing so if I get replies back.

Ynot.8397:

Large wall formed by paragraphs. Tldr

This is a wall of text: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Wall_of_Text
My posts on the other hand, are pearls of wisdom, in great demand by the Quaggans.

Also, why is this matchup thread so empty? It’s got to be one the smallest threads out of this week’s matches despite all my contributions. I still remember when these threads would be 5-8 pages long full of delicious amusement.

Aeneasx.1589:

Scumbag thief here. I must have thought the situation was fishy for me to have finished you. I.e. there must have been others around or something.

I’ll glady duel you again though, and let you walk away this time if you would like ;-p

You bowed to me, but ended up killing a fellow guildie because he walked in on the match. I backed off and told him to stop, which he did, but you came back shortly afterwards determined to put a spike through his corpse So I intervened then, only to have FC run all over us because we were trying to 3 man golem a tower at the same time.

Anyway, it was a misunderstanding like I said :P

gotem.5284:

Opc.4718:

Apologies, I haven’t been giving this thread my caring attention recently. So I leave you with the video Gab requested of us doing the wipes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqaQ51O2T-c

The quality isn’t that great, but it’s about 8 guys plus 2 ACs up against those waves of red. You can tell some of them are relatively coordinated, not just pugs. “Oh you’re using siege, that’s a cheap move and demonstrates nothing about your playing skill”. What’s stopping you from building counter siege, say a treb from SM, and destroying our ACs?

This is a demonstration of 30 minutes of competence (cut down to 12), as opposed to say, a chance 3v2 encounter where some of the guys may not even be properly geared and going up against gimmicky duelling builds. Yes yes I know, any 10 guys on voice comm could do the same, but please do take videos so I can admire them, because I really haven’t personally seen this done by either FC or DR. I’m sure it’s happened, just never been on the receiving end.

I’ll be sure to take screenshots next time I go roaming and show you the other side of the coin.

It’s hilarious how much you are getting trolled. You didn’t post until now because you spent the entire time trying to fraps footage to prove your guild is good. I’m really hoping you made that video for reasons other than posting it in this thread but sadly it doesn’t look to be that way.

I didn’t post until then because contrary to popular belief I don’t spend my life dwelling in the forums.

We have a guild website, and on that guild website is a very nice video gallery. There are 17 other videos on there that will prove my point just as well. I’m afraid you guys aren’t special enough to warrant the time it takes to edit a video, but luckily, you get to share in on the goodies since the video was going to be made for the gallery anyway. As for the point of the video gallery itself, that’s frankly not your concern unless you’re in TFH.

For me to be “trolled” implies that you’ve successfully provoked an emotional response from me, which is only true up to the extent of “vague amusement”.

insanemaniac.2456:

Solstice.1097:

no disrespect but…. wayyyy TL;DR not here to read literature

hes practicing for college essays

Ha you got me, I’m being deliberately obtuse. Although, Ynot, I’ll have you know my posts are not walls of text, they are beautifully formatted into clear cohesive paragraphs.

@Gab, team builds are VERY different from solo duel builds. Team builds are team oriented and shine only when you’ve got other people to cover your weaknesses. An example off the top of my head is consecration guardian, running full consecrations in utilities. A powerful asset to have on a team, but you’d be dead in a few seconds on your own.

During prime time, we try and get people to run certain team based specs, and if you were to catch them on their own with your roaming build, I don’t expect you to have too much difficulty in killing them.

I’ve been playing a lot of guardian lately, and as a team player, I run a AH hammer/staff shout+consecration build. Staff is a crap 1v1 weapon, but it is amazing in a group fight. Late night when everyone goes off, I get rid of the AH and spec into virtues for boon duration, pulling out GS and mace/focus. I also switch out the consecrations for full shouts. That’s my roaming build, giving me good in combat mobility and healing options when I am by myself.

The playstyles of the two builds are like two completely different classes. I would be ineffective in a team fight on my roaming build, and likewise my team build would suck if I were forced to fight alone.

So tl;dr, the outcome of the 3v2 match is no surprise considering the builds we run as a team vs the roaming builds of the enemy. GW2 is all about understanding and countering different builds, and no matter your individual skill, you simply wont be effective if you go into a fight that’s stacked against you. The PvE gauntlet arenas are a surprisingly good example of this – some of the bosses are practically impossible until you learn how to counter their specific special move, and certain classes are just better at doing the job than others.

“Stop making excuses, you should’ve come prepared then if you think you’re such great players”. That’s what a good roaming build is designed for – the ability to counter as many possible situations as possible. While we run as a team, everyone has a specific role and as long as we stick together, they complement each other to counter an even greater range of situations. At least that’s the theory anyway.

EDIT: I promised myself to keep this post short and sweet, but that’s apparently impossible for me.