Guild Wars 2

GoM, not to be rude, but your nightcrew is ruining the fair matchup we had 2 weeks ago
-_-

Sororita.3465:

Sigh so much smack talk going on..might as well contribute.

Spent my night in EB trying to 1v1 people on my lvl 71/72 necro, all but 2 fights ended with people running away or running to a group of theirs. The only good two fights were me and another green arrow necro vs an 80 thief/a green arrow thief and then me versus a very very very bunker warrior.

i wasnt even going after green arrows, i was targeting 80s and from what i saw on most they were in exotics. why are you so scared of me =( is it because im covered in blood?

Welcome to Tier 8 -_- where all but a small few (who probably don’t play at the same time as you) will not fight you unless they have 3-4 of their friends nearby and can spam as many abilities as possible until you are dead or run off. Also, try being an 80 thief and getting anyone to fight you, and my thief is the definition of glass, minus the cannon, lol.

Merlin.4058:

“You’re all mouth breathing cowards that can’t do anything.”

Me: “So if you hate the server so much, why stay on it?”

“LOL for the buff of course. Now lemme farm these frogs.”

God I hate people on my server so much. Not there to help just to use the buff. Glad to know we’re so bad you can take advantage of it. Also CAN WE HOLD OUR KEEP FOR JUST ONE DAY PEOPLE?!?!?

lol Ajax makes me laugh, and no we can’t hold it for one day, but we did hold it for the entire week 2 weeks ago…..wonder what happened to all the PvEers/cannon fodder that were following us all around for the wxp….maybe they finally realized it wasn’t worth it,

Score update, ugh I wish we could spray our property with some kind of “GoM night-crew repellant”. Kind of discouraging that its the difference maker, but it is a fair strategy, so congrats on your first T8 win this week GoM, hope you didn’t lose too much sleep over it

So from what I’m hearin, The reason GoM is leading is because they have a strong night presence all of a sudden? Well, congrats for finding a winning strategy? lol, Score update from the Blue Team(frog)

XxNuggetxX.7823:

Parktou.4263:

This is the kind of thing that makes me spend most of my time in WvW, roaming -_-. No need at all for that many people to be in one group, not one, especially when you consider only 15-20 of us were defending against you, with paper gates. Then again we still have the lead, so it’s not all bad. Your better than this FC, you really are.

Hahaha…. the FC guy from [BS] in the front with the blue Aura is me XD

But seriously Zerging in the “Pain train” set-up is the meta ATM. So if you want to be competitive vs Guilds like Agg this is what we have adopted. If you don’t like it, stay out of our way.

Agg wipes B4 adopting “pain train” setup – 0

Agg wipes after adopting “pain train” setup – daily.

Btw Agg nice fight in SM the other day. Finally pushed you out after 30 mins by cutting your ball in 1/2 from the side. must have not seen us coming.

Thanks for being honest, and the only person to understand what I was saying. Everyone else just wanted to shun me for complaining about numbers/zerging when that wasn’t the point at all. I think its more than possible to setup a smaller zerg that can fight off Agg(no offense guys), might take a little time, but its more than do-able. More than that, I’m just tired of seeing our servers resort to these tactics of running around in 50+ zergs, it’s just poor tactics imo, and obviously with all the skilllag these days it makes for a whole lot less fun. There should be small groups at each tower/keep and no more than 20-30 running around trying to take things, that’s how I view WvW anyways, Obviously it would be a different story outside of pimetime when there’s not as many people on though.

Anyways thanks for being civil with me Nugget

Score update before we momentarily lose our lead again…really close, keep it up.

Score update, and a picture of the Infamous Agg “zergball” that everyone seems to be afraid of as you all climbed into your towers and keeps the moment you saw them, lol. Thanks for the tight matchup even if you don’t like me for having higher expectations of you, GoMFC.

geekanerd.4123:

Parktou.4263:

geekanerd.4123:

You’re upset because we got people to rush a choke point manned with siege? I guess I don’t get it.

Also: ET is no stranger to zerg balls. Glass houses and everything.

No, dissapointed to see you zerging in such a large group for one target instead of splitting off 20 of the 50 that were there to take a tower while you were taking SM. I’m still a non believer to this idea that ET is relying on zerging to win, I’m just not seeing it happen on any BL and I’m on ET so I should be the one to know about it, ya know?

Next time I run into a FOE/Agg zergball, I’ll make sure to screencap it and show ya. Because, you’re right, you should know about it.

To the best of my knowledge and from what I’ve seen of them Agg only ever runs with themselves at 20-30 tops, FoE usually collects some pugs but trust me when I tell you that FoE actually uses tactics and doesn’t just run around in a 50+ man zerg like the one I came across from your server. And please do since there is always the possibility that I’m wrong(HAH! no I’m not.) Also, don’t trip, I aint mad bro! Just have higher expectations of the other server that’s been punished by zerging the most these past few months

geekanerd.4123:

You’re upset because we got people to rush a choke point manned with siege? I guess I don’t get it.

Also: ET is no stranger to zerg balls. Glass houses and everything.

No, dissapointed to see you zerging in such a large group for one target instead of splitting off 20 of the 50 that were there to take a tower while you were taking SM. I’m still a non believer to this idea that ET is relying on zerging to win, I’m just not seeing it happen on any BL and I’m on ET so I should be the one to know about it, ya know?

wow, got some sensitive types in here lol. Maybe I should put more smily faces in my posts. @Sororita not new at all, but you most certainly are, so get off the high horse if you please you have no idea what real zerging is, we do. So that’s why I’m gonna call out our sister-server for it, because I’m dissapointed to see it, not because I think its underhanded. As for ET being no stranger to Zerging you people must not be on when I am, because when I’m on were constantly fighting against even numbers when we come across them and more often than not against both servers “zergs” at the same time, on all the borders. Smily Face be easy people, I’m not a troll….atleast not a mean one

This is the kind of thing that makes me spend most of my time in WvW, roaming -_-. No need at all for that many people to be in one group, not one, especially when you consider only 15-20 of us were defending against you, with paper gates. Then again we still have the lead, so it’s not all bad. Your better than this FC, you really are.

First score update of the week, thanks for bumrushing our BL at reset GoMFC, showed great teamwork

I don’t know if this is happening to anyone else tonight maybe its just the reset night zergfest, but several times tonight I’ve had my CnD hit and then immediately break stealth without me using any other abilities. I hope this is just some chance occurence due to lag but I haven’t been experiencing much lag tonight so I’m not sure. Before anyone says it, my CnDs were not being used while the revealed debuff was up, I was paying attention to that.

ET celebrating our win good luck folks.

Mif.3471:

Johje Holan.4607:

I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. Are you saying that when you click your right mouse button, it switches your target?

Yes, and it’s really annoying.

I’m fairly certain you can turn this off in options…

naphack.9346:

knight.8926:

You have your op pet I have my confusion

No.

lol’d hard at that. Also, mesmers have 3 stealths…..guess OP forgot about that?

ARM.3912:

You most certainly can punish the other two servers for zerging the first. ET is a prime example of a server that relies on zerging to win fights, and yet are still in T8 despite having the population of a much higher tier server. Incentives to play for the underdog side are a great philosophy. If there were more incentives we wouldn’t have 8 uneven matchups all the time.

lol what? ET relies on zerging? your joking right? We’ve been fighting outmanned for months, don’t whine because were winning now that we aren’t lol. Not like any other server isn’t zerging since they added wxp. You’ve never seen how many SF has otherwise you wouldn’t complain about our numbers lol.

@ARM
Rewarding the last place team by making their objectives less attractive points-wise is a terrible philosophy. I bet you give the losing team a participation trophy too. You don’t get rewarded for losing, that’s not how things work people.

Sororita.3465:

Great fighting at hills

Yeah you guys rushed it just in time, nice rally!

One last Score update

P.S. check out how many GoM it takes to kill me, they chased me all the way from inside Ferg’s keep to the front door of SM lol. Vote the second one for best death screenie, ring of fire and all those 80s, lol. Good fightin this week GoM, even if it does take 15 of you to down me(maybe more)

Not to be a jerk, but rewarding the last place server for losing is just a bad philosophy, I’ll agree it’s unfortunate and probably lopsided numbers wise, but you can’t punish the other 2 servers from taking points from the server that puts up less of a fight, recruit people to WvW or just get used to it, have some duels or something. ET spent months at the bottom of T8, essentially as the worst server in NA. Now were winning our match up and over the next few weeks possibly pushing hard enough to move up a tier. Be patient, ask people to join WvW in LA and just keep on truckin. Being the underdog usually makes you better once you have a fair matchup

Score update from the [WOLF]

EB is usually the most populated, other than that you can just stick to one of the commanders. Find a WvW guild perhaps?

lol to this whole thread. haha

I would love it if they seperated PvE from WvW, I’m all for getting the non-WvWers/PvPers out of WvW.

Creslin.1758:

Sooooo…we’ve probably all been in this situation before.

You’re fighting the good fight in WvW, but the enemy finally manages to down you and defeat you. However…it doesn’t end there. After defeating you, they all proceed to stand on your body and engage in various aerobics including, but not limited to, jumping and dancing, just to rub it in.

While we all know this is unsportsmanlike behavior, I will admit that at times it is pretty funny. And even I do it on occasion. So my question to you all is…

When do you feel that post-mortem humilation is appropriate?

Personally, I tend to do it either to people who have proved to be really annoying, or who have done something exceptionally stupid. For example, if a group of players chases me all the way back into my spawn and gets killed by the legendary defenders…you can believe they are getting jumped on lol.

The only time I find it to be unsportsmanlike is when your soloing a small group and the 5+ of them actually manage to have a brain and kill you. You have no reason to celebrate at that point, especially if I downed half your group lol.

Just noticed how old this post is lol.

TallDan.6350:

I don’t know what Anet’s plans are for the scoring system but if SF could win by such a big margin, for such a long time and still need a nudge up to get out, I guess we may all be in this matchup for quite some time, especially when you consider how close the scores are.

I love this idea, it’s a fair match and three fairly even servers. I hope the three of us stay in this matchup all year long.

KStudios.2850:

Parktou.4263:

My biggest problem is with backstab thiefs that stack zerker gear. Those players have no talent and being able to blow someone up with that tired old rotation followed by mashing 1 until the target is down shows it. No reason for CnD to hit for 5k no matter how much crit dmg you have, I could justify the 8k+ backstabs if CnD and the auto attacks didn’t hit as hard as they do. I personally find the Thief to be to easy a class to succeed with, which is why I take on groups of people solo with crap gear and a P/D condi build.

No talent? Do you even thief, brah?

Seriously though, do you have any concept of just how hard it often is to even get a successful backstab in the first place? I botch my attempts about 40%, due to moving target, AoE, the taget’s comrades, etc. It’s really one of those things where just about every possible variable in your current situation has to align in order for it to be a success. Most of all it really helps if your target is completely unwitting to your presence (which is difficult enough, cause people tend to auto-evade whenever they hear the tell-tale “poof” of a thief debuffing from stealth or the “ting” of daggers). Thief is easily the most hands-on precise profession ingame. True, they’re known for being able to shift up a fight at will, but once their burst is done, typically so are they.

My suggestion for anyone hating on the thief class is to play one. I have loads more respect for thief players now that I have. Especially for some of the really goods ones I’ve encountered in the past when I was still an anti-thief whiner myself.

lol Yes, I do thief….Brah. If your having that hard a time landing backstabs and surviving beyond the first one, then that sounds like a you problem to me, perhaps you just need to be more patient and stop spamming your rotation as soon as it’s up. I run no toughness on my thief and I survive fighting groups of 80s on a nightly basis. It takes no skill to mash the same rotation when it’s up, I stand by that despite your ignorant reply. Furthermore, if you can’t seem to survive fights on your thief regardless of your build/opponents then you are probably playing the wrong profession.

Valik Shin.9027:

Badges are still a poor way the get commanders as all it show is that you have a lot of kill and might not know much about attacking and defending. Plus it hinders those who run supper builds and don’t get badges. Regardless it would be better than 100g

You get badges through loot bags which means you simply have to tag an enemy and when they die you get a bag….if you never attack anything ever at all, then I feel bad for your server. Probably better to have people on the server to vote for you, IF the goal is to have the most qualified person be a commander. You’ll still have people get them because of their fanboys/girls, but that’s not much different from the current system, other than that the people who should be a commander but can’t afford it would actually be able to be a commander. No great way to fix this, just put up with it.

aathomas.4638:

For instance if I get all 5 ranks of siege bunker is that 15% damage reduction or just 5%?

Just 5, they aren’t really worth it.

My biggest problem is with backstab thiefs that stack zerker gear. Those players have no talent and being able to blow someone up with that tired old rotation followed by mashing 1 until the target is down shows it. No reason for CnD to hit for 5k no matter how much crit dmg you have, I could justify the 8k+ backstabs if CnD and the auto attacks didn’t hit as hard as they do. I personally find the Thief to be to easy a class to succeed with, which is why I take on groups of people solo with crap gear and a P/D condi build.

In all fairness, I was a tad aggressive with my first post, but people still shouldn’t be so sensitive either.

@warspite
First and foremost the reason I called OP out on being a PvEer in a PvP zone eis for the reason that they were asking for a “dragon event” and rewards for participating. WvW is about 3 servers going at each other, yes objectives are apart of it and to Catisa whining about me trying to have a gankfest in an open field or something to that extent, go ahead and quote me if you can find the part where I said that lol. Furthermore if you follow the point I was making, imo the problem with WvW is mostly due to people trying to treat it as PvE where you repetitively bang your collective heads against the same repetitive and easily predictable npc, when in fact it shouldn’t be about that. Also, if I’m roaming and end up fighting a group of 5+ enemies for upwards of 5 minutes, am I not preventing those people from gaining points? Does that somehow make my server lose points? No it doesn’t, it in fact helps my server quite a bit as that group could have taken camps in the time I spent fighting them.
The OP’s point whether subliminal or conscious was to make WvW MORE like PvE(incentives), which I am absolutely against as WvW is the only part of the game I enjoy and it just keeps getting ruined by PvEers who don’t wanna fight so much as they wanna run exp/karma trains. Which is why the zerg strategy even exists in the first place, and used by you guessed it, PvEers.

@Catisa
Take your own advice and wake up to reality, killing enemy “armies” is a great tactic for keeping them from capturing/defending an objective. WvW isn’t all about beating down worthless NPCs, like you do clearly do in PvE. Don’t get my post wrong, there is nothing wrong with enjoying your PvE(even though I absolutely hate it) as long as you do it somewhere else. Yes, technically WvW is both PvE and PvP, but the real WvW is about your servers army against another. Like my original post says, If you don’t like WvW then fine, avoid it like I do with PvE. Try not to be so sensitive maybe?

Also, Why does there need to be an incentive to fight for your server? Why can’t you just have a little pride in defending whats yours and taking what isn’t? The incentive concept comes from PvE, PvP needs no incentive other than Players to defeat other Players, which is exactly what WvW SHOULD be, even though it is certainly a confounded mess the way it is now.

I think a better way of putting it would be that zerging is too viable an option, one that works too well perhaps, and removing the aoe cap would severely hinder the “zerg” strategy. Could you imagine 2 people wiping 30 simply because of smart play? why wouldn’t you want that? Unless your just a PvEer grinding for badges, in which case go away.

Ruprect.7260:

I have never been killed by confusion in WvW.

Protip – Stop attacking.

Pretty easy to get blown up when you do that, but that goes back to my point that it should stack in duration instead of intensity, since the intensity stacking is the real reason why it is such a devastating condition, not always, but enough of the time.

Daemonne.5018:

Nice Screenies Park!

Thank you, and not only that folks but ET held against both servers without the 2 new guilds(FoE/Agg) that are apparently carrying us….Don’t tread on ET, FEAR THEM!!!!!
lol jk, sorta…..

GoMFC you guys came in, gave us an epic assault from the north and south, and in the end……We held the line XD #Comeatmebro!

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Parktou.4263:

Score update-FC is startin to catch up to you GoM, better not take 3rd in your first T8 matchup lol.

Nice try.
You just want us to shift our focus to FC so that they don’t catch up to you guys as well. With the scores as close as they are, there’s a very real possibility FC might slip by and steal 1st as the week progresses. I can only imagine how excited both ET/FC are right now at having a chance to win the tier after being stuck in a miserable match-up for so long. It’s going to be fun to see which one of the bros cannibalizes the other first, because I have a good feeling this match-up is gonna go down to the wire.

lol. Actually it was a friendly warning, the Ferg Zerg is on and swallowing things whole

Got tired of the small group of FC running away from me. Thiefs are so scary for some reason….I don’t even use a backstab build lol.
P.S. The backstab build is for those afraid to Tango ;P

Score update-FC is startin to catch up to you GoM, better not take 3rd in your first T8 matchup lol.

Some profs have stealth abilities lol. Just a clever invader is all.

Removing the AoE cap or simply increasing it would give the 5 people defending a tower/keep against 60 a fighting chance. Some servers actually have this problem, often. As I have said before(to others) Zerglings belong in Starcraft and PvE, period. Some of us don’t need 50 people to accomplish some fairly simple tasks.

Why would someone not get burned if they walked into a lava font? The aoe cap helps no one, but removing it helps everyone. No longer would the mind-numbingly stupid Zergs just walk through your group mashing 11111111 and actually kill you, instead there would actually be a demand for skill and tactics. Gasp! something PvPers actually enjoy! :O your right that’s a terrible idea lets keep making it easy for the PvEers who are in the wrong zone…..

It’s not like your actually getting anything worthwhile in the bags lol.oh noes I missed the bag that had junk in it :O

CrassBippy.4619:

Ok so im sick of this, confusion needs to be changed so that condition removal targets it after bleeding. Unless Anets planned counter to it is sit there like an idiot and do nothing/have 3 remove all conditions. You can get 12+ stacks against a mesmer pretty easily, you want to leave them doin high dmg, ok. But it needs to be prioritized for us when we try to remove it.

God knows when i get 12 stacks of confusion, I Want to remove weakness

Hahaha I’ve been hit with 15+stacks before and all I could do was use my heal and walk away lol. They should change it so it stacks in duration instead of intensity, that’s the real problem.AoE classes suffer from confusion more than others imo too, I know when I run D/D on my ele it seems like it ticks far too often since its supposed to activate on skill use, but it seems to tick for each time you hit something, which makes the AoEs kick your butt big time.

Shout out to the FC Sylvari necro that I dueled with my thief on the east side of SM, the one with the [LAL] tag. That was the most nailbiting duel I’ve ever had

P/D is my choice of weapons and I use the 25/0/30/15/0 build with refuge/Spider venom/signet of shadows for utilities. I find Thieves guild to be my favorite elite lately as it really helps to add some direct damage to the condition stacking. I usually end up taking on groups of 4+ with this build and I get plenty of stomps. Problem is that with full carrions gear, you really have to know when to hold em and when to fold em because with the lack of toughness even some upleveled players can blow you up if they really know who they’re fighting. Ele’s are the only ones I don’t like fighting though, permacondition removal lol, but still possible. Like Grimm said its all about patience, and playing hide and seek.

PvP without a time limit….Nuff Said. Also I don’t like the way stat aquisition in SPvP works, I mean why does your amulet count for 90% of your stats? Why not have all the trinkets like in PvP so we can mix and match the stats more? The large scale fights are also something that I’ve never seen in any other game I’ve played before so that’s fun.

Tattare.7980:

Its to a point with whos e-unit is bigger “mines bigger than elvis.” & what server has the most people.
The mechanics of it have grown stale. Where is the inventive? Every week it seems like more and more people are leaving the game.

The last patch added ranks & abilities. Well the ranks dont really mean anything and most of the abilities are not worth leveling up.
The new armor was recycled skins and It takes you longer to grind the gold in WvW then it does the badges of honor.

So whats the point? it just seems like the mechanics of it are broken. Why dont you at least add a dragon event to it for people to fight over or bring back orbs even though orbs was rather stale to begin with. & why cant there be a super badge of honor prize? Like 750 badges per item sorta thing.

It would really be nice for the 1 Dev controlling WvW to come out and give us his thoughts on the direction of WvW and where its headed.

[You were born in the long winter, you’ve never known anything else. But now… Summer is coming!]

WVW IS NOT PVE, GO AWAY PLEASE. This mentality is what’s ruining WvW, It’s a PvP zone for people who wanna fight the other servers on a large scale, I would even go as far as to have them remove the majority of the Keeps and Towers so we can have less PvEers like yourself. Go back to your boring PvE. You don’t like WvW? Fine, stay away, like I do with PvE. You PvEers are the ones who are bringing about this zerg mentality because the vast majority of you are so afraid to fight someone that you do what all scaredy-cats do and group up until you completely outnumber the opponent to the point they have no chance and then turn and run from anyone not afraid to steamroll you. Once again, WVW IS NOT PVE, GO AWAY PLEASE.

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Both.

Sororita.3465:

Green and white is the new pink.

Sorry but Pink is still pink ;P