Guild Wars 2

Voxdeus.1034:

Reaver.9256:

Voxdeus.1034:

Reaver.9256:

Voxdeus.1034:

Reaver.9256:

Fiddlestyx.9714:

Reaver.9256:

That’s the major problem they face. You think it’s getting worse and worse while I think it’s getting better and better. They have to figure out a way to please us both.

That’s the problem though. I bought the game based on the manifesto. You obviously didn’t.

Nope I didn’t. They’ve also never lied to me. I knew vertical progression was in the day the game was announced in pc gamer years and years ago.

You “knew” it, even though they claimed otherwise?

Where did they claim otherwise? Is there more than one manifesto video?

“We have never said there would be no vertical progression.”

Chris Whiteside

“Any quote you see on the internet is true”

—Abraham Lincoln.

In any case, what they did say, in fact, is that characters could reach maximum stats/power level very shortly after hitting max level, and that any grind would be strictly for cosmetic items.

Whether or not Chris Whiteside or any one else now claims otherwise does not change the fact that this is what they promised and talked about on more than one occasion. I don’t want to characterize Mr Whiteside or his comments except to say that they run counter to what other people at Anet talked about.

I’m in the middle of several things right now, but I’ll track it down for you in a short while.

If you won’t take my quote seriously then why would I ever take yours? I don’t know though because I’ve read 1000000 of these progression threads and have never seen them saying the game would be strictly a horizontal game.

I’m accepting for the sake of argument that he said what you claim. It would be nice if you provided an actual link so that I don’t have to take your word for it, but really it doesn’t matter, because an after the fact denial doesn’t change anything if it’s not true.

My apologies:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-27-arenanet-holds-frank-reddit-debate-on-guild-wars-2-loot-grind

stobie.2134:

Reaver.9256:

Voxdeus.1034:

Reaver.9256:

Voxdeus.1034:

Reaver.9256:

Fiddlestyx.9714:

Reaver.9256:

That’s the major problem they face. You think it’s getting worse and worse while I think it’s getting better and better. They have to figure out a way to please us both.

That’s the problem though. I bought the game based on the manifesto. You obviously didn’t.

Nope I didn’t. They’ve also never lied to me. I knew vertical progression was in the day the game was announced in pc gamer years and years ago.

You “knew” it, even though they claimed otherwise?

Where did they claim otherwise? Is there more than one manifesto video?

“We have never said there would be no vertical progression.”

Chris Whiteside

“Any quote you see on the internet is true”

—Abraham Lincoln.

In any case, what they did say, in fact, is that characters could reach maximum stats/power level very shortly after hitting max level, and that any grind would be strictly for cosmetic items.

Whether or not Chris Whiteside or any one else now claims otherwise does not change the fact that this is what they promised and talked about on more than one occasion. I don’t want to characterize Mr Whiteside or his comments except to say that they run counter to what other people at Anet talked about.

I’m in the middle of several things right now, but I’ll track it down for you in a short while.

If you won’t take my quote seriously then why would I ever take yours? I don’t know though because I’ve read 1000000 of these progression threads and have never seen them saying the game would be strictly a horizontal game.

Birdemic-level number generalizations are not helping your case.

I’m sorry please go count up all the past progression threads for me and pm me the number and I’ll edit my post to show the EXACT number of threads. Thanks in advance.

Voxdeus.1034:

Reaver.9256:

Voxdeus.1034:

Reaver.9256:

Fiddlestyx.9714:

Reaver.9256:

That’s the major problem they face. You think it’s getting worse and worse while I think it’s getting better and better. They have to figure out a way to please us both.

That’s the problem though. I bought the game based on the manifesto. You obviously didn’t.

Nope I didn’t. They’ve also never lied to me. I knew vertical progression was in the day the game was announced in pc gamer years and years ago.

You “knew” it, even though they claimed otherwise?

Where did they claim otherwise? Is there more than one manifesto video?

“We have never said there would be no vertical progression.”

Chris Whiteside

“Any quote you see on the internet is true”

—Abraham Lincoln.

In any case, what they did say, in fact, is that characters could reach maximum stats/power level very shortly after hitting max level, and that any grind would be strictly for cosmetic items.

Whether or not Chris Whiteside or any one else now claims otherwise does not change the fact that this is what they promised and talked about on more than one occasion. I don’t want to characterize Mr Whiteside or his comments except to say that they run counter to what other people at Anet talked about.

I’m in the middle of several things right now, but I’ll track it down for you in a short while.

If you won’t take my quote seriously then why would I ever take yours? I don’t know though because I’ve read 1000000 of these progression threads and have never seen them saying the game would be strictly a horizontal game.

Voxdeus.1034:

Reaver.9256:

Fiddlestyx.9714:

Reaver.9256:

That’s the major problem they face. You think it’s getting worse and worse while I think it’s getting better and better. They have to figure out a way to please us both.

That’s the problem though. I bought the game based on the manifesto. You obviously didn’t.

Nope I didn’t. They’ve also never lied to me. I knew vertical progression was in the day the game was announced in pc gamer years and years ago.

You “knew” it, even though they claimed otherwise?

Where did they claim otherwise? Is there more than one manifesto video?

“We have never said there would be no vertical progression.”

Chris Whiteside

MaW event is 6-7 medals every 25 minutes. That with some crafting and you’ll have 8 level 80s like me in no time

stobie.2134:

Reaver.9256:

Fiddlestyx.9714:

Reaver.9256:

That’s the major problem they face. You think it’s getting worse and worse while I think it’s getting better and better. They have to figure out a way to please us both.

That’s the problem though. I bought the game based on the manifesto. You obviously didn’t.

Nope I didn’t. They’ve also never lied to me. I knew vertical progression was in the day the game was announced in pc gamer years and years ago.

So, basically, you just wanted a newer, shinier WoW. I listened to what they said describing their vision. If you just ‘knew’ from the announcement that this wasn’t true, then you weren’t listening – you were just assuming their vision was a lie.

Nope I wanted GW2. I knew from what they said that they wouldn’t be following GW1 in terms of how limited it was. Also since GW1 had vertical progression it wasn’t hard to figure out that GW2 would expand on that.

Fiddlestyx.9714:

Reaver.9256:

That’s the major problem they face. You think it’s getting worse and worse while I think it’s getting better and better. They have to figure out a way to please us both.

That’s the problem though. I bought the game based on the manifesto. You obviously didn’t.

Nope I didn’t. They’ve also never lied to me. I knew vertical progression was in the day the game was announced in pc gamer years and years ago.

Chuo.4238:

Reaver.9256:

They will be releasing more levels and more gear to go with those levels. Does that answer your question?

I don’t really want to spend the next year grinding out tier gear. It really looks like this is as bad as everyone thought it would be when they announced Ascended gear.

I just want to do what I want to do, and not have to worry about gear. If I want to grind gear, there are much better games out there for that.

I dunno what’s going on at ArenaNet, but this is just getting worse and worse.

That’s the major problem they face. You think it’s getting worse and worse while I think it’s getting better and better. They have to figure out a way to please us both.

They will be releasing more levels and more gear to go with those levels. Does that answer your question?

They created GW2 as an mmo(unlike GW1) with more levels and loot expansion in mind. I don’t see why they would ever go backwards when they have stated that they were very limited in what they could do in the first one. I don’t see having an expanded level cap as a core problem at all. All mmos have problems throughout there whole lifespan.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

“Fixed a bug with the chests that spawn for The Claw of Jormag, The Fire Elemental, and the Volcano Destroyer Boss. They are lootable once a day per character as intended.”

Is this a fix to the guesting exploit that allowed guests to loot more then one chest a day or is this an unrelated fix?

What “exploit” is this? That fix had nothing to do with guesting.

I didn’t say the punishment was aimed at me. I said they would be punishing me for doing it and they absolutely would be. Comparing to store coupons that take 2 seconds to cutout with a problem that would be fixed in a day doesn’t come close to my alts that took MONTHS to make and have been doing these events multiple times for MONTHS.

Sorry but store coupons have nothing to do with anything I’m saying. It’s a totally different situation.

penatbater.4710:

Reaver.9256:

As I said in another post if they were to make it account wide then they might as well erase 7 of my characters and just give me 7 bank slots. Punishing me for making alts is not an option in my eyes.

Goodness I hate this attitude. You’d think every single thing you dislike about the game is a punishment to you specifically? :| It’s like giving candy to a kid, then taking it away again. That’s cruel, yes, but not punishment. Punishment is getting grounded/sent to your room/getting your bum whipped/etc.

Actually it is punishment. I’m also not a fan of your kind of attitude…….

fractalKinesis.8569:

Reaver.9256:

It’s not guesting. It’s the 100x more people from your own server showing up to kill them.

Maybe on your server.

You really think the problems on JQ(the most populated server) are from guesting???? I laugh at that. Anyone with half a brain would never even think of guesting there to do events. Most people guest to smaller servers so they can actually use skills during events.

Kayla.5964:

Wait so is that rumor true? If you “guest” to another server your chest resets?! WHY PUT THE LIMIT IN THE FIRST PLACE!? Oh my goodness!

That rumor isn’t true at all. There were a few chest that you could redo but guesting had nothing to do with it and they’re fixed now.

Ruprect.7260:

Reaver.9256:

Ruprect.7260:

Gilosean.3805:

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EDIT: And you can’t even guest and loot if you’ve already done the event. I just guested and did the Maw and didn’t get a chest. So there’s no worry about that either.

Was there an update this morning? I was able to do this yesterday.

Nope been like that since patch. Once per character regardless of server.

Me and numerous other have done this at first as a test and later just because we could and were able to loot multiple chests.

There was a few “bugged” chests but they’re about to be fixed

Ruprect.7260:

Gilosean.3805:

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EDIT: And you can’t even guest and loot if you’ve already done the event. I just guested and did the Maw and didn’t get a chest. So there’s no worry about that either.

Was there an update this morning? I was able to do this yesterday.

Nope been like that since patch. Once per character regardless of server.

It’s not guesting it’s the 100x more people doing them from your own server because of the rewards.

It’s not guesting. It’s the 100x more people from your own server showing up to kill them.

Before the patch I was lucky to get 1 or 2 members to do dragons with me. After the patch I don’t think there’s been one where we haven’t had 2 full groups. Guesting has little affect on what’s happening. It’s just that the loot is so good that everyone and there dog is doing these events now.

Your server is too populated. Guesting has a very small affect on the situation.

I was asking around on the servers I guested too today and there were very few if any at all at times. Yet they still had the same issues. IE: it’s not guesting

As I said in another post if they were to make it account wide then they might as well erase 7 of my characters and just give me 7 bank slots. Punishing me for making alts is not an option in my eyes.

Pants.8315:

Reaver.9256:

You guys should really read this:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/7169/Guild-Wars-2-What-Marchs-WvW-Patch-Will-Bring.html

Thanks for posting this!

Shame it’s not available on here. Would be nice to have a sticky thread containing a list of interviews/articles that can be found on external sites.

Hint hint. ^^

Yeah I thought it was really weird that it wasn’t on the GW2 site. If I didn’t have a phone app that reads reddit I’d have probably never seen it. That just seems like some really big news that people should know about.

You guys should really read this:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/7169/Guild-Wars-2-What-Marchs-WvW-Patch-Will-Bring.html

Winfernal.9208:

Reaver.9256:

If they made all these chests and rewards once per day per account then they might as well just erase 7 of my characters and give me 7 more bank slots since that’s all they’d be good for. I shouldn’t be punished for having worked hard at making alts.

Yeah. Spending time is hard.

What do you know of how I spend my time?

If they made all these chests and rewards once per day per account then they might as well just erase 7 of my characters and give me 7 more bank slots since that’s all they’d be good for. I shouldn’t be punished for having worked hard at making alts.

Yes OP ectos will soon be worthless with all the rares being handed out now. I’m guessing soon rares and ectos won’t be worth much more than what you can sell them to merchants. I alone must have gotten 30-50 rares since patch along with a few exotics. Basically the hardcore are going to get very rich from this and further leave the casuals behind. Gold for gems will probably become crazy also I’d imagine.

2 dropped at my last behemoth. Luckily I got one and sold it while it was actually worth something.

Namu.5712:

Reaver.9256:

Well if dragons are down to once a day at most then I know a lot of players who’d quit over it. Could they really be dumb enough to do this when they know how much people enjoy them?

People dont enjoy killing dragons they do so under the notion that before loot broke it was a good way to get precursors. So they afk, then play for 5- 10minutes spamming 1 button all day every day…. that was not how the game was intended. So to fix it limit the amount of chests you get to 1 a day per character… there problem solved.

AND THATS ALL THEY DO WHEN THEY LOGIN, they dont interact with the community or do anything else really…… dont think anyone will miss people that quit over that because they are in my eyes no different than a bot that sits in one spot killing the same mob repeatedly lol.

So much wrong in this post I won’t even bother. I’ll just say we have very different opinions on the matter

edit: Just want to thank anet for the 25 rares I’ve already gotten today!

I did 8 maws yesterday after patch and got 11 rares and 2 exotics. I’m going for 50+ rares today. Loot may be a bit too good now

Yeah it only really really hurts those with no alts or only 1 or 2. I’ll be pulling in 20-50 rares a day making those 3-4 rares people with no alts get basically worthless soon. Seems like yellow is the new blue to me…..

I think I’m gonna crash the rare and ecto market soon just by myself Got nearly 20 rares last night after patch and I’m going for about 50 today. Sell your rares and ectos now if you have em

NeedingName.8357:

Reaver.9256:

Olba.5376:

I have no clue what you’re trying to say.

What “restrictions” are you talking about?

And they’re never going to put in a DR indicator, that would defeat the purpose of having it in the first place.

Read the patch notes. Certain events can only be completed once per day per character. Trying to keep track of 30+ events between 8 different characters all in different places can get very confusing. May I also suggest a timer on each event for your character to show when it can be done again. Or at least let us know how the timer resets.

I would like to chime in now. In no way are they really restricting us. Read the Full patch notes and you’ll understand a little more in this.

" Credit for killing creatures is now easier to receive in situations when many players are attacking a single target.
Increased the loot rewards on many world boss chests, including the chests in Orr temples and the dragon chests.
Fixed a bug on certain world boss chests that was causing them to drop fewer rewards than intended. These chests can now only be looted once per day, to encourage players to fight multiple bosses and spread out across the world. "

So really it’s a plus with a minus. You’re gaining better drops and getting credit for what you’ve done now, HOWEVER, you can only do the Dragons and CERTAIN world bosses once per day. Personally I find this more appealing as it may help the TP a little bit

I’ve yet to see these drops that are much better than what I was getting when I could get many more times per day. Wow I got a rare from my first chest. Same thing I got in the chests yesterday except I could get a second one yesterday if I wanted. Also I’ve seen no indication that I get credit easier for events. Maw for example after you kill the totem and the guys come out from both sides it’s still hard as all heck to get credit for the event even when you do a ton of damage to them and get credit for the kills.

Olba.5376:

I have no clue what you’re trying to say.

What “restrictions” are you talking about?

And they’re never going to put in a DR indicator, that would defeat the purpose of having it in the first place.

Read the patch notes. Certain events can only be completed once per day per character. Trying to keep track of 30+ events between 8 different characters all in different places can get very confusing. May I also suggest a timer on each event for your character to show when it can be done again. Or at least let us know how the timer resets.

Some of the changes were nice, but the dragon chests and other world boss changes are just complete garbage put in to restrict peoples gameplay. That and DR puts a taste of D3 in my mouth with them trying to get us to play the way they want us to play and not how we want to play.

It’s per character. So basically people with one character are really really screwed compared to someone like me with almost 8 level 80s. They’ll maybe get 3 rares a day from dragons while I get upto or greater than 24 if I try.

edit: did maw twice on alt got no chest second time. did it on my thief after and got chest.

Just did maw and a dragon and the rewards weren’t nearly what I would make over the multiple chests I’d get per day.

I have 8 characters and it’s getting silly trying to keep track of all this mess you put into the game to restrict our play. If you’re going to seriously limit what we can and cannot do in game then may I suggest some sort of indicator so I don’t need to keep a notebook keeping track of everything all 8 of my characters have done each day? Also some sort of diminishing return indicator which has already been suggested plenty of times.

Bad mistake if it’s true. Especially if it’s account wide since I have 7(about to be 8 ) level 80s.

Well if dragons are down to once a day at most then I know a lot of players who’d quit over it. Could they really be dumb enough to do this when they know how much people enjoy them?

Really hoping the patch today fixes all these crazy dr issues. Between not getting chests to getting totally random dr it’s been a bad month for my 8 characters…..

Still waiting to see if dragon chests and other dr related issues are finally fixed before I make up my mind…..

1. Yes they will be increasing the level cap. They made the game to support this they have stated a few times.

2. Your equipment will become weaker compared to newer equipment released over time. It just won’t be as fast of a curve as say like wow.

Just wondering if the patch tomorrow will be including fixes for some of the nasty DR bugs(dragon chest, randomness to dr, not being able to lose dr, etc) going around? It’s been a long month for my 8 characters with all the DR issues I’ve run into through normal play.

From what I’ve seen it’s growing and growing. Actually guested to a few of the lowest population servers the other day to see what people were crying about. Guess what I found? I found the areas I went to packed with people even on these “dead” servers. I don’t think I ran a single de with less than 5 people. So yeah the game is doing great and shows no sign of “dieing”.

Yeah I love it. So many player playing that it’s great to go to different zones and find huge groups everywhere. Great community in this game. Much better than GW1 single player game with “hubs”.

same here……….

Had a great time at the parade! Just some pics if I can figure it out….