the dwindling # of players across all servers may tell a different story. i believe those who have remainded are more willing to accept the direction, but a lot of players have already left for this and other reasons so its difficult to draw any real conclusion.
Not all servers. My server never seems to stop growing.
Well after a few support emails and such they finally got back to me with an answer. They said it’s definitely a bug and they hope to get the fix out in a patch soon. That made me feel much better about spending months making alts.
There are a million problems with the game, if anything the major problem is the bulk of players confusing anet/ncsoft with what ‘they’ want from the game. The remaining playerbase want a game more like WoW, some want something akin to Everquest and others hail from games like EvE.
I still think, personally abandoning the original Manifesto was a terrible idea, and thats what lead to the mass-exodus and all the player rebellions in the first place, which lead to the reddit panel. My beef is that what mentioned on the reddit panel, none of it has materialized.
Just curious: what mass exodus? Rebellions? I’m asking this as someone who doesn’t really follow the “politics”, if you will, of this game, and haven’t really noticed anything of this nature in-game. Are there actually fewer players now, and if so, where can I find the stats? Just concerned for this game is all.
You would have to go back to the Halloween events, thats where it all started. Since then, its not hard to notice the massive amount of players who have left the game. Also, research Guild Wars 2 reddit Panel, and the reasons why.
This post couldn’t be further from the truth. At least on my server. Think the fewest people I had at an event today was 5. I’ve seen the exact opposite of what you posted.
a total lack of e-sport features on a game they promoted as an e-sport, etc.
What ever happened to that?
I mean, they’ve totally abandoned any pretense of chasing e-sport status, as far as I can tell.
But all you really need to qualify as an e-sport is 1) PvP, and 2) enough activity such that e-sport sponsors are interested. Any other qualifications are pointless, because they’ll be readily overlooked provided the game has a large enough PvP community.
Did we get gear progression because the PvP community so readily bailed on this game?
So was the game unfinished, or is Ascended just the last minute hack job some of us recognize it to be?
Because the quote I read suggested that they intended to have it in at release, so either they’re lying to cover their kitten (most likely) or the game was unfinished at release.
I would hate to have a 100% finished MMO at release. I don’t know anyone who would play it knowing stuff would never be added to it again. Might as well play a single player game if you want a start and finish. MMOs are meant to be added too and I don’t know of ONE that is still going and is complete today.
How many times has Anet told you people that you will not get another tier of gear aside the ascended gear? Do they have to continue til they are blue in the face to get it through that thick head of yours that The ascendant gear is the only tier you will get?
Anet spent years promoting the game on horizontal progression, that progression would be cosmetic only and that a player would not be “less powerful” if they chose not to follow that progression, that the game would have no treadmill and was the “non -mmo” MMO, that the game would only be released when it was ready (LOL) etc, so they’ve already broken their pre-game philosophy, so Anet’s word they won; tbreak it further does not mean much, which part of that are you having difficulty getting through your own thick head?
They maybe promoted it to YOU that way, but I can assure you 100% they did not promote it to ME that way. From day one they promoted a game to me that would be a MMO and be played like one with no subscription fee. If I would have though for a second that it’d be like GW1 with that drab progression system(and not an mmo) I would have never came near it. I knew from the first time I read the announcement in pcgamer that it’d have stat progression and higher levels.
They promoted it that way in many videos / interviews / blog posts, they specifically stated it would not have a treadmill, that the progression would be optional, that people who did not choose to do that progression would not be “less powerful”, etc., the “non-mmo” MMO was their phrase not mine, they also spent years repeating “when it’s ready”, then released a half finsihed product that clearly was anything but ready, hence why many people don’t give Anet’s word much credence.
Sounds like we read and heard different things then. Also sounds like we’re playing different versions of the same game because I can assure you that I received a product that wasn’t “half finished”.
How many times has Anet told you people that you will not get another tier of gear aside the ascended gear? Do they have to continue til they are blue in the face to get it through that thick head of yours that The ascendant gear is the only tier you will get?
Anet spent years promoting the game on horizontal progression, that progression would be cosmetic only and that a player would not be “less powerful” if they chose not to follow that progression, that the game would have no treadmill and was the “non -mmo” MMO, that the game would only be released when it was ready (LOL) etc, so they’ve already broken their pre-game philosophy, so Anet’s word they won; tbreak it further does not mean much, which part of that are you having difficulty getting through your own thick head?
They maybe promoted it to YOU that way, but I can assure you 100% they did not promote it to ME that way. From day one they promoted a game to me that would be a MMO and be played like one with no subscription fee. If I would have though for a second that it’d be like GW1 with that drab progression system(and not an mmo) I would have never came near it. I knew from the first time I read the announcement in pcgamer that it’d have stat progression and higher levels.
Yes the did implement it and paid a very high price for doing so. Player population and revenue stream.
There would have been more people playing had the done proper HP instead of cheap VP.
They may have sold a lot of copies but how many did they retain and play on a regular basis? Not a lot dismal actually. I mean about the same Bioware TOR had when F2P launched a little while ago.
Had they stuck with proper HP and explained why they would have a greater population and more persistent revenue stream.
The backlash over ascend has been on par with SWG and fansites are constantly hit with negative posts from fanhate.
But instead they threw the people who help support and launch this game under the bus the first chance they got.
So had they kept HP there would be larger consistent player population, the locusts and +1 grindaholics would have left yes, but there would be a happier population buying gems and Anets reputation would have been in tact.
I disagree. I don’t know anyone who would have bought it if it had nothing but some silly costumes as rewards. I’m guessing the population would be next to nothing if they had no vertical progression. I already hear enough complaining about having nothing to work towards at 80 because all the rewards are the same.
I’m on my level 7 as we speak 2 hitting everything in the level 1-7 area I’m at. The scaling seems pretty on to me. Even not scaled players in the starting zones 2 hit everything. I should never be as weak on my level 80 as I am on my level 7.
The sooner the better I say. Already hear enough people in game complaining about the lack of progression. The sooner they add new things to play with the more people will keep playing…..
I’d rather them change it back or leave it alone. If it changes much further no one will ever go to a lower level zone again. Why take the same time to kill a level one when you can kill a level 80 and get better stuff. Yeah I feel I should be way more powerful at 80 then the level 15 beside me…….
When ya’ll did this “tweaking” ya’ll broke dragon DR.
The issue with the dragon chests should only effect people who park characters at dragons and don’t play them anywhere else. Is this what you are doing?"
If I’m reading this correctly, then you’ve basically just told me that months of my time and 7/8 characters I have are useless. Just because I like doing teq on my guardian kittenon my mesmer,jorg on my ranger, maw on my thief, etc, etc, etc. Now to play how I have always liked playing I would have to logon 8 different characters everyday and work off dr just so I can get loot. I just can’t possibly see how this would be intentional……
If it’s taking too long to kill lower level things then I don’t know a single person who’d go back to a lower level zone. They’d have to add tier 6 mats and crafting nodes to level 1 zones. I prefer the old way or at least don’t change it down any further.
So I was just killing things right around the MaW waypoint yesterday as I normally do if I’m chilling there. I started getting yelled at and mean pms sent to me from a guy saying he was doing his dodging daily on one of the guys there or something. I ignored him and kept doing what I was doing. Sometimes silence solves all problems……
I was also seeing the same thing while trying to do these dodging dailies OP. Yeah it’s easy and I have no problem doing it, but to do it I actually have to dodge WORSE than my skill at dodging. It just sort of feels weird that I have to take a few “skill steps” back to do it the way they want.
It’s an event in a level 1-15 zone so no I wouldn’t want it harder. It’s the first big event most new people will see and it needs to be easy enough for beginners. Anything I do 100000 times becomes easy after a point, but I realize that some people are still new and learning the game that early in the zone.
Doesn’t seem so to me or anyone I know. If they dropped the ball I wouldn’t see more and more people everyday. Seems to me like a few people grasping onto some 5 year old “manifesto” like it’s the bible can’t stop telling everyone the sky is falling when it’s actually raining gold.
They seem to be sticking to it OP. Haven’t had to grind at all and I’ve been playing for months. As a former GW1 player I gotta give props to anet for learning from there mistakes and making a game 100x better than the original!
Well there is 100% a DR bug going around. You can read my post about it on the bug forums. I haven’t been able to get xp or rewards for days now on my characters. Changing zones etc does nothing I still get about 50xp per event if I’m lucky.
I had thought the patch fixed it cause I started getting xp and all again. I just logged on though after not playing for 12+ hours and I have DR for some reason. I went to another zone across the world and I have it there also. Between not getting chests at dragons and having some sort of permanent DR on my other characters I haven’t been able to play much at all since patch. I really hope both these issues are addressed in a hotfix very soon so I can play again.
The Wayfarer problem isn’t a scaling issue. That happened because there’s 200 people doing it from the world event that is happening in that zone at this time. Once the people have that all done MaW will go back to normal.
I haven’t seen more than 20 people participating at this event – and shouldn’t those big Meta-Events scale from 10 to up to 100 players?
If that’s the truth(20 people) then maybe your server is bugged or you’re having some serious culling issues. I know for a fact it scales well for 20 people and the boss takes a few minutes with that few people. Are you on the lowest population server there is? Just asking cause I haven’t seen less than 100-200 people at that event since this new world event in the zone.
People calling in the chat: “it’s up”.
Me: instant port to the nearest WP, running to the boss.
What happened: health dropped in a rapid rate and as I finally was in range for attack the boss went down. It seems the battle didn’t last longer then a couple seconds.
downscaling isn’t working (at least in Wayfarer Foothills). It’s just 1-or-2 hitting enemies. If there is a Zerg around you, it’s even hard to tag multiple mobs. Mesmer GS AoE-Berserker has a casting-time – mobs are dead before I’m able to summon my phantasm most of the time.
The Wayfarer problem isn’t a scaling issue. That happened because there’s 200 people doing it from the world event that is happening in that zone at this time. Once the people have that all done MaW will go back to normal.
So I haven’t played this character since yesterday when I made this post. I just logged on and I still have DR. Only thing I’ve done today was kill a dragon on another character(never received a chest for the dragon kill). As far as I can tell I have been unable to get loot since sometime yesterday……..
Edit: Oh and I’d just like to point out that a few others in the area were also complaining about recieving nothing while having no reason to have DR.
This thread is intended to serve as a straight yes-or-no [I don’t know is also acceptable] poll on many of the discussions currently on going. This thread is not intended to continue those discussions, please visit the relevant threads and participate. Also, as a subset of the community I [the compiler] and you [the participant] are/should be aware that our percentage numbers may not reflect the community as a whole. This is strictly informative to the people currently participating. Pending sufficient responses, I will periodically update with current percentages.
The Dirty Dozen:
1) Would you prefer ascended gear to be the last tier implemented for the remainder of GW2?
2) Would you prefer ascended gear to be equal to exotic gear in all statistics except agony resistance?
3) Would you prefer the level cap to remain at 80 for the remainder of GW2?
4) Would you prefer if WvW was set up on an equal playing field similar to PvP?
5) Would you prefer if WvW / PvP / PvE had separate skill functionalities?
6) Would you prefer if Magic Find was removed from the game completely?
7) Would you prefer if Magic Find was divided equally amongst all party members?
8) Is GW2 too ‘Grindy?’
9) Does GW2 need less RNG?
10) Has the Trading Post [and all its users/farmers] positively impacted the economy?
11) Do you have as much faith [and/or enthusiasm] about the game [and/or company] as you did before launch?
12) Do you reasonably expect [many of] your primary concerns to be addressed in early 2013?
I’d hate for them to be account bound. I love having different dyes on different characters. Always a thrill getting a dye for me. I have so many colors on my main I’d lose that thrill if they were account bound……..
First time I played in 12-14 hours and kittenconverts to kitten) didn’t drop a chest yet again for me This is the third in a row now. I got full Gold medal,xp,karma etc…..
They are BEST in SLOT so basically they are the best tier.
They will be upgraded forever to match the best equipment so they are better because by default they won t need replacement.
They are not only a skin.
“Infinite light” is a skin and as you may see almost nobody has one…like may Others exotics.
Please post a source for this info? I’ve never seen it mentioned that they’d be upgraded forever to be the best.
I don’t have a link, but they have said this. Legendaries are intended to always be the best weapons, so if/when ascended weapons come legendaries will get a boost to match them.
This doesn’t mean that they’re not just cosmetic though. They are. The fact that you can do a lot of grinding now to save yourself an unknown amount of grinding in the future doesn’t change that.
I’ve looked and looked and can’t find a thing saying they’d be leveled up and all that forever. Only thing I see is them saying that they’d remain BiS in tier order. Aka a lvl 80 legendary will always be BiS at 80. I see nothing about the future when more levels and new legendaries at those levels are added.
Yeah I’ve noticed this a lot lately as well. I’ll go to start GW2 up and the window never pops. I’ll look through task manager and find other instances of it still there. Just started happening to me the last few days.
They are BEST in SLOT so basically they are the best tier.
They will be upgraded forever to match the best equipment so they are better because by default they won t need replacement.
They are not only a skin.
“Infinite light” is a skin and as you may see almost nobody has one…like may Others exotics.
Please post a source for this info? I’ve never seen it mentioned that they’d be upgraded forever to be the best.
Nothing major or game breaking but it always sort of annoys me that I have to stop and clickclickclicklcik to get a speed buff in cities. Anyway it can be made so we can just press “f” like most things in the game to get it? As I said nothing major just a small QoL change that would be nice.
I never have a chance to get DR on the character I kill the dragons on. I have a different character parked at all 3 dragons that only login for those dragons so they never have a chance for DR. Still have not gotten chests from dragons since patch.
Also left a bug post about one of my lower lvl characters that still was being affected by DR after I hadn’t played for 12+ hours. I’m guessing there’s a nasty dr bug going around.
So before last night I was on the alt doing MaW when I noticed I was getting about 50xp(compared to 1200+ I should be getting) per event. I figured I had hit DR or whatever so I logged and went to bed. Well 14 hours later and I’m still getting 50xp per event I do even when I change zones and all. Anychance I can get my character unbugged? It’ll take me about 3 years at this pace to reach 80……..
“Every 2-3 months there is a patch.” Are you sure you’re talking about GW2? Anyone who has ever played GW2 would know that patches happen way more than that.
About time they start charging for this. Finally these wvw server hoppers will have to choose a side and learn a little loyalty. Please stay away from stormbluff though we don’t need the gutless.
That picture looks very very boring to me I mean 7 years and all you get is a few different outfits? No wonder I don’t no anyone who played that game for more than a month…..
I see nothing there that disproves what I have already stated. Your level 80 legendary will not be bumped to level 90. Legendary will still be top tier at 90. Legendary will still be BIS at 90. Your level 80 legendary will still be top tier even when you’re 90. Your level 80 legendary will not be BIS when you’re 90.
This is the third in a row now. I got full Gold medal,xp,karma etc…..