Guild Wars 2

what server is daphoenix on? just want to know if i’ll ever get the chance to run into him.

I literally hit with Fire Grab maybe 20% of the time… its soooo frustrating having to pray that my biggest burst attack hits the target right in front of me rather than knowing and planning for it.

I have a theory though, that I havent been able to test enough, It possibly always just aims the direction you were facing when you start the cast rather than where you are facing when the cast ends. That would explain why you hit more often when you are just standing still while casting it.

I don’t know, either way please fix these skills!!

Bunzy is a good player.. otherwise we would of kicked him out of [OG] a long time ago =P

If they had kill spam like in DAoC then you would know us. But they don’t, so you will just have to wait till you run into us.

Strippling.3524:

A big welcome to [HIRE], I’m from Yaks Bend and welcome you guys to the fight. So far I am impressed by your OC coverage!!! Keep the impressive work up.

It’s sad to see all this “chest pumping” in this forum. If people learned to compliment rather than boast and criticize other servers everyone would have a much more enjoyable experience. Good fight last week from Maguuma and Ehmry Bay.

I saw a lot of talent from Ehmry Bay and Maguuma in WvWvW battle last week. Mannnnnnnn, ehmry bay has some of the best elementalists I have seen so far!!! And the defensive power Maguuma has on towers and keeps is incredible. I respect both servers, however this “chest pumping” isn’t nice. Yaks Bend has some excellent 5 man groups that roam all Border Lands, the fact that you probably haven’t seen them is because they don’t go out of their way to gank people, they cap and do their job.

To [OG] from Maguuma: Please stop the chest pumping, I fought you guys on several occasions and I’m impressed by your skill. However you aren’t untouchable. Me and some 2 other guildies were running around on low level toons and got ganked by a group of ele’s and thiefs from your guild. You killed us a few times, /laugh or /dance on our corpses. We simply logged off, logged on to our mains, found you guys and wiped your group with only 3 of us. I’m not saying my guild is the best, I’m just asking you to stop boasting because you are not unstoppable…we stopped your whole party of 5 with 3 of us.

Lies…

We don’t ever laugh or dance on corpses unless it is [SM] or deserved (same thing). Also, we RARELY ever have a full group of 5 when roaming, and we have NEVER been beaten by 3 when we have had 5.

We are not untouchable, we have definitely been beaten by equal numbers before.. it just doesn’t happen very often.

I feel like if lightning whip actually worked my DPS would go up 40% in pvp.

Fire Grab also still misses alot for me, although lightning touch hits everytime no problem. why is there such an issue with lightning whip and fire grab????

Please fix this!

I hope d/d ele’s get nerfed so all the FOTM’s go back to their other classes. I just hope they don’t break the class because d/d is all we have going for us right now.

Do d/d ele’s need a nerf? Not at all, its just no one is taking the time to learn how to counter them. I have no problem fighting a d/d ele, because i know how to counter them. Imagine that.

MarzAttakz.9608:

Hmmm, Runes of the Forge, interesting break from convention there!

Lol no ignore the armor part, I use runes of the forge on my bunker ele for spvp, not for wvw. I would use divinity for wvw.. i just dont have enough gold for a set of those yet.

These are my traits: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEUQJAoYlEGaOGcQ5Ae+AAlxJuIP8Q5xM5YDA;TsAgzCqoAzAmAMLYOwkgNE5IyMDA

I use beserker weapons, PVT Armor, and Clerics accessories

If the link doesn’t work copy and paste it

Wow I just read all these posts bashing us. Please allow me to explain some things.

Firstly I just want to thank [SM] for watching my video. Much appreciated.

To the people saying “roamers” or “kill squads” don’t do anything for our server… You are wrong.. we are killing our enemy, delaying re-inforcements, taking supply camps, defending supply camps, murdering every yak we see, wiping zergs attacking our keeps/towers, destroying enemy artillery, and frustrating our enemies. Please explain to me why I have to sit in a 40 man zerg outside a tower beating on a door for 20 minutes to be “contributing” to my server.

Another note, Bunzy is a kitten stirrer, therefore he is going to stir some kitten on the forums, his posts do not reflect how all of us would like to be perceived. But we love him anyhow.

Also, there was a comment about how we are not the first to run around with eles and theives, as if this is a known OP group comp. Uhhhhh.. trust me, I HATE this group comp. It causes me and Bunzy to run around like idiots trying to stay alive while our thieves stealth around and slowly pick off enemies. I’m pretty sure there are much better group comps out there lol. We beg the thieves to get on their other classes.

Lastly I would like to once again thank [SM] for all the badges they provided us with tonight. I’m getting very close to having all my exotics! I always get a smile of joy across my face when I see little rainbows streaking at me. Must of been your C-team tonight.. Huh boys?

@nalenb
we don’t build our traits for synergy, we all just build however we want, and lately it sucks because we have been running 2 eles 3 thieves, so the eles are usually focused the whole fight and all we can do is run around frantically trying to survive.

@MarzAttakz
0 15 0 25 30 are my current traits. I am trying to go as high dmg as possible without losing our amazing healing rotation, the only way i see getting more dmg is 10 15 0 25 20, but i dont want to lose the EA dodge heal, or the quicker attunement swapping.

@Luzano
our guild is out roaming pretty much every night with a group of 3-5 usually, also usually oceanic times.

nothing funner than stuffing another d/d ele with shocking aura to set up your burst combo

lol we have the ability to all be in voice chat.. but no.. its usually just me and one other in chat.. and we dont even talk 80% of the time… we have MUCH to improve when it comes to communication.

The difference is probably the skill of the other players you are running with.. each person I run with are highly experienced MMO players.

So to answer your question, would I be able to do this in a PUG? Probably not, I would be able to get away if I wanted but we would not be able to down as many enemies and would probably get over run much faster.

Changed topic name and uploaded another video thats more guild focused. Here it is:

Let me know if you have any tips/suggestions/questions.

A video showcasing just a few of [Original Gankstars] glorious fights. If you have fought our guild tag in WvW in the last two weeks you might be in it!

Enjoy

No ele’s are not OP. There are alot of FOTM ele’s right now because they are getting beat by the eles that have been playing since launch. Now that we have 1 or 2 solid builds that we have had time to get very proficient at people are claiming OP. But what has changed since 2 months ago when Eles were laughed at?? Nothing. The good eles got better and the FotM players are trying to copy them. I still get beat all the time by people that know how to counter me.

Instead of calling us OP, try learning how to counter us. We have strengths and weaknesses just like any other class.

Also if you are having issues with us now… just wait till they fix all of our bugs… or our ridiculously kitten traits. There is a reason everyone goes heavy water and arcane.. because all other traits are kitten

ahhh I see, thank you!

Ive used the forum search for this but cant find anything about it.. but i see tons of people embedding videos. Can someone point me in the right direction?

I have been playing D/D Ele since BWE 3. Here are some videos of my WvW adventures.

EDIT: Consolidated all the videos to the first post.

First vid: Some great WvW fights with a couple guildies

Second vid: Roaming with the guild

3rd vid: More solo fights

4th: Ele/thief Duo, new build NEW

Enjoy the videos

I like this match up, lots of good groups roamin around.. fun fights… I don’t get into the whole seiging thing.. but its pretty easy to find people to kill.

scepter endurance regen in arcana tree, vigor on crit chance, vigor on cantrip use, adventurer runes, sigil of energy

noobftw.9654:

can you recommend a profession a class that can counter d/d elementalist?

I have been beaten by good players of every class, honestly its just the people that know how to counter you. You have to learn how to counter our bursts and CC’s and when to burst us.

Full GC thieves/warriors and condition necros/engineers seem give me the most trouble

Also as others have said, immobolize is devistating to d/d ele, we WILL blow our cantrips to get out of immobolize. Its a good way to make us use all of our stunbreakers.

roaming with some buddies last night and encountered a pretty tough HoD Force, only competition we had all night. Fun fights.

http://youtu.be/nOfjHXneV28

Its changed my playstyle a bit, I now use RTL as an opener and as a gap closer/dps burst. Before i ONLY used RTL for traveling or an escape because it was not dependable in the slightest

@ caffeine
With 3 cantrips, dodge heals in water attunement, and protection, you should be able to survive their burst. Make sure you do not allow your health to dip below 50% against a thief. Also with S/D you have 2 blinds and 2 knockdowns.

You can be a very good bunker with S/D, exactly what Mouse said.. just modify the 0 10 0 30 30 build, use either clerics or shamans amulet. for runes id go with forge or earth, you can also do the water and monk for boon duration stacking. I would suggest 0 0 10 30 30 for the extra toughness in earth.

@Intigo
I usually do try to hit each each aura as I cycle through attunements, I ALWAYs hit shocking aura either while I stay in air or right before I switch out.. Frost aura is the one that sometimes I just switch out of water before it gets casted.. usually because I’m still finishing water 2 while I press water 4 then switch, but you’re right I do need spend some attention making sure it casts.

@Mogar and Blaine
As I said earlier its pretty bursty for an ele. There are other builds that can definitely provide more burst with arcane skills but they are not fun to play.. because you die FAST. This build has some burst with out sacrificing all your survivability. The burst shown in this video comes from 3 sources:
fire3 > fire4 > arcane wave – up to 8k burst
Air attunement proc >RTL > lightning whip – 5k burst
fire2 > dodge roll EA proc > fire5 – 5k burst
There are a lot of other combos you can do for some burst attacks but the ones listed above are unique to this build. Its true that alot of the fights in this vid were against tanky necros.. because when I was recording there were tons of them on the server. I will change the title to make it less misleading.

I AM.2186:

Is this a recent vid? I thought the churning earth blast finisher didn’t work anymore. I see it used in this vid.

This is post patch.. the blast finisher does work on churning earth as long as it begins the cast in the field, you don’t get the buff till it finishes the cast though. The churning earth from EA is NOT a blast finisher any more.

@ Chesire
yes Magnetic Grasp is still very bugged, you see in the video several times where I CC myself using it.

@Khenzy

being able to counter all the examples you gave at the beginning of your post is not easy at first. A newcomer can’t just hop into spvp with a new class and expect to do well. It takes time and experience to learn the counters for each class, and thats how it should be IMO.

100b is balanced, even combo’d with evis it is balanced… quickness is the plague that allows some GC builds to kill people too fast. As for warriors what I believe IS overpowered is whirlwind attack. It is very hard to evade and it does FAR too much damage for in combination with the other GS attacks.

After the change to ether renewal I use it in spvp and wvw. With ether renewal you don’t need cleansing fire anymore, because of the condition removal and short CD.

If conjures were instant it would add a whole new ‘element’ to elementalist gameplay

See what I did there?

In all seriousness.. I think people would definitely use the conjures more if they were instant..I know I would

Well.. more burst than what most eles are used to seeing. Just the air attunement swap + RTL can be about a 5k burst if lightning whip actually hits. The crazy part is the survivability while being able to burst. Most DPS ele builds die in seconds, especially against more than 1 enemy

Bah .. the video is blocked, I will Edit once I get it working
*Edit – works now

This may not be much help but I know there is a PvE build that uses lightning hammer, I think it is supposed to be high survivability.

Seems to work fine for me atleast 90% of the time

Title now more appropriate

I was trying to tell my friends how much better ele gameplay is now that RTL is fixed and they just didn’t seem to get it…So I had to record it.

This is the funnest class I have ever played in any MMO. GOD I hope they don’t change anything with D/D…well except lightning whip still seems to miss a lot.

while I was recording there were quite a few good necros on the server, thats why you see so many. I noticed in the video I need to keep a better eye on updraft cooldown.. there were lots of times I could of used it but didn’t realize it was up, other than that I think I played pretty well.

Hope you enjoy!

It has made playing D/D Ele Extremely more fun and effective in Spvp. I have managed to actually create a dmg build!.. that can survive! Because I can rely on RTL to actually take me to my target now its much easier to land combos and burst.

I’m about 98% satisfied with D/D now.. just need a few more bug fixes.. as for staff.. they still have alot of work to do.

Anyone else noticing how much better gameplay is now?

Agreed, 3v3 deathmatch would be awesome

I absolutely agree with OP, changing the point capping dynamics rather than nerfing classes survivability is the way to go

Daphoenix,

How do you do in tournies? I’m curious because watching your videos is like watching myself play.. we have almost the exact same playstyle. I can destroy in WvW all day and get top score in Spvp 80% of the time. But where I feel I come up short is in tournaments. It’s like playing a completely different game in tournies because the skill level of your opponents are on a completely different scale. Most of the players I face in tournaments have learned how to counter D/D. Every single time I attunement swap they will predict whats coming next, and they are VERY good at keeping me locked down.

Maybe the problem is I’m usually solo jumping from point to point instead of participating in the bigger fights, where I could probably provide more utility.

Anyways, how do you do? Do you have any tourney videos?

The water fight was a lot of fun, too bad you missed the first zerg fight, that kitten was ridiculous

0/10/0/30/30 for d/d
10 where ever you want + 30w/30arc for staff or s/d

use clerics or shamans amulet

Churning Earth is the same cast time.. always, just dodge it, no mater where we teleport to, just time the dodge. I’m simply amazed everytime I actually hit someone with the skill 1v1. In group fights its a different story because not everyone is paying attention to your casting animations, they are just trying to avoid any red rings they see.

There are SOOOOO many options to make elemental weapons actually useful or fun, wish they would work on that.

- Reduce animation times on some scepter and staff skills
- Give us a stronger burst skill like 100b/evis/HS/PW (fire grab/CE is not cutting it)
- Cleansing Fire removes ALL conditions
- Reduce CD on lightning flash (remove dmg)
- Change some attunement specific traits to apply to all attunements
- Please for the love of god fix RTL!!!

I would be willing to take a nerf on healing(the only OP thing about us) to get some of these changes.

0/10/0/30/30 D/D can 1v3 scrubs all day in Spvp. That does not mean that Eles are fine. What allows us to do so well in unorganized Spvp is our insane healing rotation. Supposedly that will be getting nerfed soon. But try playing against a good player that knows how to counter your CC’s, and knows how to keep you locked down. Thats when you notice the shortfalls of the class. Or try playing tournaments.. I highly doubt you will be 1v3ing very well against good organized players.(not that you should)

Honestly right now I feel we are OP in the healing department, but WAY Underpowered when it comes to dmg. Nerf our healing and give us a couple burst abilities like warrior 100b/evis or thief PW/HS, and change some of our traits to benefit us in ALL attunements… THEN I think we would be perfectly balanced.

They made my build even better…….. I was so afraid of nerfs. Happy and all but we still have no DPS option. Can’t wait to see if fire grab actually hits now! Will have to wait till tomorrow!

Its hard for 100b warriors to beat a really good d/d bunker ele, just like its hard for for d/d bunker eles to beat really good con necros, con thieves, con engineers, bunker guardians, hammer warriors and ANY good mesmer.

I didn’t say impossible, just harder than other classes/builds

Also, everything daphoenix said is completely accurate, I’d also suggest trying to immobilize us as much as possible, we will often use our cantrips on immobilize because we don’t like not being able to move.

YB is definitely good at taking keeps by zerging with overwhelming numbers, but where are the good players at? We were 2 v 8+ you guys all day today, I don’t even have any exotics.